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    Snake-handling pastor arrested

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    Snake-handling pastor arrested

    FRANKFORT, Kentucky (AP) -- The pastor of a Kentucky church that handles snakes in religious rites was among 10 people arrested by wildlife officers in a crackdown on the venomous snake trade.

    More than 100 snakes, many of them deadly, were confiscated in the undercover sting after Thursday's arrests, said Col. Bob Milligan, director of law enforcement for Kentucky Fish and Wildlife.

    Most were taken from the Middlesboro home of Gregory James Coots, including 42 copperheads, 11 timber rattlesnakes, three cottonmouth water moccasins, a western diamondback rattlesnake, two cobras and a puff adder.

    Handling snakes is practiced in a handful of fundamentalist churches across Appalachia, based on the interpretation of Bible verses saying true believers can take up serpents without being harmed. The practice is illegal in most states, including Kentucky.

    Coots, 36, is pastor of the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro, where a Tennessee woman died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service in 1995. Her husband died three years later when he was bitten by a snake in northeastern Alabama.

    Coots was charged Thursday with buying, selling and possessing illegal reptiles. He had no listed telephone number and couldn't be reached for comment. There was no phone listing for the church.

    "It is disturbing to me that individuals would keep such dangerous wildlife in their homes and in neighborhoods where they put their families, visitors and neighbors at such high risk," Milligan said.

    The snakes, plus one alligator, were turned over to the nonprofit Kentucky Reptile Zoo in Slade. Most appeared to have been captured from the wild, with some imported from Asia and Africa.

    Zoo Director Jim Harrison said some of the animals would likely have become exotic pets had they not been seized.

    "There's been a large trade in exotics for years," he said. "Some people are just fascinated with them."

    Undercover officers purchased more than 200 illegal reptiles during the investigation, some of which were advertised for sale on Web sites. One such Web site lists copperheads for $50 each and cobras for $450.

    "You can purchase anything off the Internet except common sense," Harrison said. "A venomous snake isn't a pet. You don't play with it. If you do, you're an idiot."
    He said that right....

    I, for one, don't understand why snakes are allowed as 'pets' anyway where they are legal. Even 'domesticated' pythons can be dangerous.
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    I went to a theft call a couple of years ago and the and the homeowner showed me his pet rattlesnake that he kept in a large aquarium in his bedroom.

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    hmmm, it's interesting that snake handling for religious ceremonial reasons is outlawed in most states. i think the practice is retarded and there has to be some control over whether or not their snakes pose a threat to surrounding non believers, but i think it's TOTALLY inappropriate to outlaw something a group of people do to themselves for the purpose of worship.
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    We served some warrants two weeks ago. While everyone was secured, I was in the main bedroom and noticed a fish tank with no water in it. (red flag#1)
    I asked the lady what kind of pet she had in the tank and she said a snake.

    Well, not only did my heart sink into the depths of what could be called hell, but the damn thing wasnt in the tank. As im slowly backing out of the room, eyes darting around every whicha way, I advise her that her "monstrosity" is not in the tank. She replies with "oh, he always gets out. Him and his 2 brothers." WHAT?!!!!! A split second later, I was sitting in my cruiser, three blocks away, waiting for them to finish up in the house. If anybody knows the jokers I work with, you would know that they are pranksters and they know Im petrified of snakes. Them (jokers)+ snakes + me (petrified)= not good. I sat that one out.

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    Hey, I have a pet snake! It's not venomous, though.

    I remember seeing a vid about that guy (or maybe one similiar) about a year and a half ago. The one that the video was on has been bitten by Cottonmouths and by Copperheads and survived without getting anti-venom. Hm.

    In response to InjunWil, Yes, we have freedom to practice our religion, but there are some things that are just... wrong. Like the diabetic girl who's parents refused to get her medical treatment because they believed in the "power of prayer".

    God made us smart so that we could develop medicine and medical procedures. God was probably chillin' up on his cloud (or whatever) and thinking, "Good grief! I gave you the doctors, what more do you want?!"

    So yes, I'm all for free practice of religion, but not really FREE practice. If you get what I'm trying to say.

    I also think it's funny that you can't have venomous snakes in many states but a lot of states will let you have pet lions. I want one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by equinox137 View Post
    He said that right....

    I, for one, don't understand why snakes are allowed as 'pets' anyway where they are legal. Even 'domesticated' pythons can be dangerous.
    Yeah, and so are domesticated dogs. I'm far more wary of a fast-moving, easily enraged 70-pound fighting dog (such as are relatively common where I work) than a slow-moving python. Can't outlaw pets just because they might be dangerous...pretty soon, you wouldn't even be able to own Fluffy the Hamster - the little guy has pretty sharp teeth!
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    Snakes are a problem here...Especially pythons when they get to big people dump them in the everglades...They fight w/ alligators for territory and food...LOL...CityCopDC you're a trip, if you're ever if Florida visit the Miami Dade venom unit...lol


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    When I was in college there was an off-campus house a few of the guys lived in and one of them had a boa constrictor in a terrarium. That thing would try to swallow your face. Although not poisonous, he could inflict a nasty bite.

    One day he got out and went down the heating ducts and wrapped himself around the burner in the furnace.

    A few days later we had a truly great party, the "Bake A Snake Wake". The guy that had the snake was in the glee club, and he borrowed the club's "tails" tuxes for his housemates so they could act like ushers. He called all the funeral homes and asked for leftover flowers for a glee club function, and the funeral homes delivered spectacularly.

    The guys cleaned the whole house from stem to stern, placed a funereal guest registry book on a little lectern with the little desk lamp arching over it, and put the floral displays all over the house with smartypants sympathy cards on them.

    They built a coffin about six feet long with the classic pine box coffin shape, only it flared from about four inches to about a fot the "shoulders" and tapered to about three inches at the "feet". There wasn't really anything in the coffin. "Beau" was ashes.

    We interrupted the music for about 3 minutes while I delivered the eulogy, while wearing a black shirt and Roman "priest-type" collar.

    Over a hundred people showed up for the party, and it rocked. Thanks Beau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southflaguy View Post
    Snakes are a problem here...Especially pythons when they get to big people dump them in the everglades...They fight w/ alligators for territory and food...LOL...CityCopDC you're a trip, if you're ever if Florida visit the Miami Dade venom unit...lol


    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...allery?index=4


    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sfl...7.photogallery
    Dont think so. And Im not clicking on your little links either. You got me once before with a very personal CLOSE UP of a damn snake. I saw a show on the discovery channel about a month ago "Monster Quest". This particular show was about man eating snakes or the ones capable of causing a child some serious issues. Long story short, while on patrol with the host dude, a damn reticulated python was just chillin crossing the damn street!! The host dude jumps out of the truck (while I fo sho would have have that bad boy in reverse) and runs up to the snake, STRUGGLES to pick it up, gets it around his neck, then starts complaining to the camera crew that its starting to strangle him.....

    Another segment of the show had some snake dudes set up an infared camera very low to the ground in someones back yard, that would snap pictures of anything caught in the beam. Well a day later they look at the film and this huge and very long albino python was just CHILLIN, slithering through someones backyard! And to top it all off. One of the guys from that venom unit decided to "give" a demonstration on how to capture a live snake. Well, he grabbed the snake a little to low, allowing the python to spin its head around and sink every tooth in its mouth into that dudes hand. The scream he let out was sheer pain. The more he pulled, the more the teeth ripped into his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty Ealerman View Post
    When I was in college there was an off-campus house a few of the guys lived in and one of them had a boa constrictor in a terrarium. That thing would try to swallow your face. Although not poisonous, he could inflict a nasty bite.

    One day he got out and went down the heating ducts and wrapped himself around the burner in the furnace.

    A few days later we had a truly great party, the "Bake A Snake Wake". The guy that had the snake was in the glee club, and he borrowed the club's "tails" tuxes for his housemates so they could act like ushers. He called all the funeral homes and asked for leftover flowers for a glee club function, and the funeral homes delivered spectacularly.

    The guys cleaned the whole house from stem to stern, placed a funereal guest registry book on a little lectern with the little desk lamp arching over it, and put the floral displays all over the house with smartypants sympathy cards on them.

    They built a coffin about six feet long with the classic pine box coffin shape, only it flared from about four inches to about a fot the "shoulders" and tapered to about three inches at the "feet". There wasn't really anything in the coffin. "Beau" was ashes.

    We interrupted the music for about 3 minutes while I delivered the eulogy, while wearing a black shirt and Roman "priest-type" collar.

    Over a hundred people showed up for the party, and it rocked. Thanks Beau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CityCopDC View Post
    Dont think so. And Im not clicking on your little links either. You got me once before with a very personal CLOSE UP of a damn snake. I saw a show on the discovery channel about a month ago "Monster Quest". This particular show was about man eating snakes or the ones capable of causing a child some serious issues. Long story short, while on patrol with the host dude, a damn reticulated python was just chillin crossing the damn street!! The host dude jumps out of the truck (while I fo sho would have have that bad boy in reverse) and runs up to the snake, STRUGGLES to pick it up, gets it around his neck, then starts complaining to the camera crew that its starting to strangle him.....

    Another segment of the show had some snake dudes set up an infared camera very low to the ground in someones back yard, that would snap pictures of anything caught in the beam. Well a day later they look at the film and this huge and very long albino python was just CHILLIN, slithering through someones backyard! And to top it all off. One of the guys from that venom unit decided to "give" a demonstration on how to capture a live snake. Well, he grabbed the snake a little to low, allowing the python to spin its head around and sink every tooth in its mouth into that dudes hand. The scream he let out was sheer pain. The more he pulled, the more the teeth ripped into his hand.




    But CityCopDC the pic are that of Melysa Ford in a bikini...(I'm playing they're not)...I'm like you, I'm scared of snakes...I hate it when I have to cut the grass, and I have to lift up a rocks b/c that's where the hide...I once lifed up a rock and there were 2 snakes (black w/ a yellow stripe) ...Dude I was GONE!!!!....When I came back I pushed the lawn mower toward the rock, and the area where the snakes were...I find it funny when the tv guys get hurt when they pic up snakes (or any other wild life) and they get bitten/hurt...
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    as long as more and more people think exotic animals are "pets" and care safe for their homes, we are going to see more and more problems. (not just snakes)
    Fact is, the preachers that use snakes are snake oil salesman them selves. Nowhere in the bible does it show Jesus playing with snakes or any other animals.
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