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    Downing of a Duck #1

    A three part training scenario..........I saw this years ago and was finally able to find a copy on a website........................Lengthly so its in three parts



    DOWNING A DUCK


    Cracking the Shell Takes Time and Effort
    You have to go about developing a duck in a manner that creates very little suspicion. A man would be a fool to just walk up to a joint cop and ask him to bring in “grass,” booze or money. You have to go slow, which takes time and effort.

    The dudes who get caught are the ones who get over-anxious and move too fast. The first thing you gotta do is watch. You know, things like the way a person acts, walks, stands, sits, or dresses can tell you a hell of a lot about them. Things they laugh or smile at; what makes them sad or angry; their likes and dislikes; this is all important information if you really want to develop a duck.

    You gotta start small if you want to get a person to a point where they’ll do just about anything you say. The last duck I developed was natural. Naïve, shy, friendly as hell, a do-gooder who could be made to believe anything. You see, prisons don’t know how to warn their people. They gotta say, “Be friendly, be nice,” but they don’t know how to tell them when they’re going overboard. So I’m gonna tell this story like he was my duck. At any rate I started my duck with nothing more than getting him to give me pencils and
    paper in excess of what he was supposed to give. Here’s how I developed him.

    Developing the Duck
    I watched this cop for a long time. He had all the traits. He was uneasy around his boss, pushed the nice guy bit so strong on us he overlooked violation of some small unit rules in other words, he didn’t take care of business. He couldn’t put across his orders with any kind of firmness, and the cons were givin’ him a rough row to hoe. When you find a guy like this, you can pretty well figure you got a duck--but you can be too hasty, you gotta be sure.

    I sent some friends of mine to get him involved in philosophical discussion to find out where his head was and to push him a little to see how far he’d let things go. They talked about how bad other cops treated them and how they hoped he didn’t become like all other cops. He agreed, and told them about things he’d seen the other “bulls” do that supported their reason for disliking cops. While the talk was going on, some of the guys broke rules like stepping inside another con’s cell, putting marks on the wall, suggesting playing poker--all minor rule violations.

    The officer said nothing. Each time he started to leave and tell some guy to knock it off they’d praise the hell out of him and he’d get back into the conversation. Me, I just watched. The guy was very easily distracted and we build on the nice guy image. He didn’t look like a cop--sloppy dresser, half done jobs, and he’d come unglued if someone said he did a poor job, or if someone didn’t particularly like him. When this happened he’d get in a “downer” conversation telling the cons how no one understood him. They’d agree, and build his ego. They got him on a first name basis--it’s harder to tell a guy “NO” when you’re that friendly.





    When I was absolutely certain that this guy was the one I wanted to develop, I had his unit orderlies do a sloppy job so he wouldn’t pass inspection. The sergeant gave him hell. When the sarg left, I went over to the guy and said, “You know what, Pete, you didn’t have that coming. The sarg doesn’t know you like we do. Out of all the cops in this joint, you’re the only one the cons trust. Remember, we told you where to find the convict home brew. He didn’t remember you made that bust. I’ve been talking with the other cons in this wing and we’re going to make you look good from now on.

    ” My duck kept raving on how that sergeant has been on his back; that he just can’t seem to do anything
    right. So I told him, “I got extra time each day and I’ll fix this place so you’ll not only pass inspection, but you’ll get a commendation for the cleanest wing in the joint. I ain’t gonna let no crummy sergeants talk to you that way anymore.” The cop said he would be grateful.

    As the days and weeks passed, I worked my tail off for this joker. He began passing his inspection with honors. He had the habit of leaving his lunch box open or his cigarettes laying on his desk so I began helping myself. I didn’t over do it, and he said nothing, so I asked him for a couple of full writing pads and a few pencils. He was supposed to give only one pencil, usually used, and only a couple of sheets of paper. With a long explanation and unsteady voice he turned me down. Saying “No” was hard for him. I looked hurt and said, “Oh, I’m sorry, I wasn’t thinking. I thought you knew I liked to relax and write after working at my regular job, then cleaning this unit for you. I only asked you because most of the guys in the wing told me you understood things like that--that you like to see us doing constructive things. Oh, well, it ain’t no big thing.” I tried to let my expression say my feelings were hurt, I was sorry he didn’t trust me, and I guess he was like all the other cops. With my head down I sauntered to my room.


    Shortly Pete was at my cell door. He made sure no one was looking then slid a dozen new pencils and three new
    writing tablets under my door. I said, “Pete!, you’re the greatest! Just like all the guys say, you really try and help convicts stay out of trouble.” I worked extra hard that next week winning Pete praise from the sergeant who formerly cussed him out. Pete was pleased and said, “Thank you, Terry.” He used my first name, a sign I was developing him properly.

    Several months had passed now and we had become good friends. I sought personal, financial, and marital advice, which he freely gave. And since he liked baseball, I liked baseball. He disliked hunting, so I disliked hunting. Now you gotta be careful with this too. If you have too much in common, that’s not good, so you let him talk you into believing as he does. For example, he asked me if I believed in God. I seemed hesitant and confuse. I let him convince me there was a God.

    You gotta remember when developing a duck that you’re always the student and he’s the teacher. You appear to be fascinated by his knowledge. You make him think you kneed his help; that he’s making you a better person; and that you wanta be like him. I had this joker bringing me candy, magazines, cigars and he mailed a couple of birthday cards for me. I always told him he shouldn’t do things like that ‘cause he could get in trouble and then I would hint around for something else I needed. Pretty soon he’d bring it, but I made him feel I was looking out for his welfare.

    Then I figured it was about time I got a little more serious with this guy. One day a fight broke out in the wing and my duck tried to stop it. He wound up facing a couple of cons with knives who said they hated cops and were going to kill him. He was scared spitless. I let him stay in that situation for a while and finally rushed in, got between the cop and the cons and talked them out of hurting him. I never saw a guy so grateful. Right at that time this duck said he’d do just about anything for me. I told him friends needed to stick together; that no one should expect favors for doing what was right. That night I used Pete’s own cigarettes to pay off the guys who staged the fight for me.

    Sometime later I showed this officer a letter from my sister stating the wife of a guy in our wing had been killed in an accident. The con was a friend of mine so I asked my duck to tell the guy. He couldn’t do it because he gets too emotional he said, so I wound up telling the inmate my self.

    When your grooming a duck you are limited only by your own imagination. Here are two situations that I set-up to learn something about the dude. The fight told me fear and friendship could get me what I wanted from this cop, and the second added sympathy to the list.

    Everyone in the wing was sad over the loss of this convict’s wife, especially the cop, so the next day I brought my duck a sympathy card signed by most of the cons in the unit and told him they had taken up a collection for the con’s kids. I told him I knew it was against the rules, and that convicts ain’t supposed to have money, but this was different. This would do a lot of good. “There ought to be some rules we can break,” I said. “Most of us convicts have spent a lifetime taking things from people, and the one time we want to give, there’s a rule against it. It just doesn’t seem right!” The cop was concerned over the amount of money with the card and that he might get caught.
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    At about this point my personality began changing a little. I had to let this guy know he had already done some dumb things that could get him into trouble--to do so in a way that showed we were still good friends but that I meant business. So I reminded him of a few past situations. For the first time, he didn’t quite know how to take me. I immediately got nice again. I said, “Ah, come on, it would do us a lot of good to give for once in our lives, you can’t deny a person that kind of inner satisfaction. Any doctor will tell you it’s good therapy. Besides, the penalty for taking a letter out with money in it ain’t no greater than the ones you’ve already taken out. Don’t get me wrong, I would never tell, but I have had some trouble keeping some of these other cats in the unit from telling the sergeant that’s always on your back.

    ” He was beginning to feel the pressure. The confusion on his face was obvious. He wasn"t sure where I stood.
    As I continued talking, I slid the envelope into his inside jacket pocket. “There ain’t no way you’ll be caught. They don’t search cops like they do inmates. Gosh, man, you can’t let little kids starve just ’cause their old man is in the joint. Those kids ain’t done no wrong. There ain’t a con in this place who would understand the deep hurt a person goes through when someone you love gets killed. I thought you were different. You don’t have to worry, we took care of those people who might have snitched to the sarg. No way are we going to let you get in trouble. Besides, I’ll never ask for a favor like this again. It’s just that those kids…” I walked away and left him to think about what I had just said.







    I had been my old friendly self for a few days so my duck could become comfortable over taking the letter and
    money out. Then I told him some relatives of my friend--the deceased woman’s husband--would be sending a
    package to his house. The package would contain nothing but prayer beads for the grieving inmate. “Don’t open the box ’till you get here,” I told him. “we need the address to thank these people, and they were really grateful for that money.” He agreed. When the package came, I told the cop I’d show him the contents later and he said never mind he didn’t want to know. His voice told me I needed to butter him up a little because we both knew he was over the barrel. I had him right where I wanted him. But I still had to develop him more deeper. I knew he was in debt on the streets so I got the training officer’s clerk (an inmate) to add extra time on the dude’s pay records. The cop appreciated the extra money and said nothing. Because I let him know I was responsible for the little favor, he became more friendly, but he was still cautious with me. By this time I was about the only friend the cop had

    Sometime back his real friends began telling the guy he was being too friendly with convicts. I couldn’t let that go on, so I started a rumor that this cat was living with an inmate’s wife. He came under investigation. Cops like to go with winners, not losers. This guy was a loser so left him alone. He had to talk to someone, and I was the only person available. I had the guy right where I wanted him, for sure! It took time but you gotta develop a duck carefully if you want it to pay off. Now the guy was ready for the big one. He had to do anything I said or I tossed him to the wolves.

    Turning the Duck into a Golden Goose
    I had done a lot of time in my life and was tired of prison. I wanted to get out. I’d been thinking about this for a long time now. Getting out had become an obsession with me. My duck and I were about the same size so I got him off to the side and said, “You don’t know it yet, but I’m going on parole, and you’re going to help me get there!” My voice was stern and commanding. He looked confused, but he knew I meant business. “I want you to bring me a cop’s uniform!” We had joked about this kind of thing before and he hoped I was still kidding.

    With all the hatred I could muster I shouted, “Look you stupid S.O.B., you ain’t got no choice! Every convict
    in this wing will snitch you off. You took out letters, money, you brought in things we still have stored to use as
    evidence against you, and you’ve been accepting money from the state under false pretenses. Now you bring in that damn uniform or you’re dead, sucker!” I stood glaring at him and let what I had just said sink in for a moment. Then I handed him a letter from the people who had received the money in the letter he had taken out. It stated they were willing to testify against him. He had no choice. He had to so as I told him. “Listen, you rotten bastard,” I continued, “you bring a shirt tomorrow, trousers the next day and so on until I have the complete uniform. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?!”

    The duck brought a piece of the uniform each day in his lunch box. As I received them I rolled each new item and neatly placed it in the bottom of the foot locker. Then I told this dumb cop to call me off my job when ever the institution search team came into the wing. “Make some excuse like I didn’t clean my room” I told him. I knew if I were on hand when my room was being searched, I could talk the searcher out of going to far into my locker.






    Some cops do their job and look at everything in the room, but most of them don’t like searching and can easily be talked out of looking in places where a lot of work is involved. You know, there’s a psychology behind handling a searcher. One of the first things convicts learn when they first come to a joint is how to beat the search team. Like, if you want to hide a major contraband in your room, then you leave a minor contraband item so it can be discovered. The dude searching will usually abandon the search when he finds the piece you salted, and he leaves feeling he’s done a fine job. You got to be just a little bit smarter than they are to survive in prison.

    On the other hand there is that occasional sharp cop who can’t be fooled. When this happens, you’re in trouble. So the way you handle this guy is you get all the cons in the area to complain about how the guy dumps stuff on your floors, tears your bedding, etc. If the complaints keep coming about the guy, joint big shots take the attitude that “where there’s smoke there must be fire,” and they give him a job change. Can you beat that? The dude gets punished because he’s doing a better job that anyone else.

    One morning my duck called and said the search team was going to be in his unit. I rushed and stood nonchalantly by my cell door. A cop was already in my room searching. I was polite, joked with him, pointed to an area in my room he failed to search. I even complimented him on his thoroughness. When he came to the foot locker I said, “Man, I’m sorry, it’s going to take you hours to get through all the junk in that box.” By seeding this thought he gets tired just looking at the job. They’ll usually just give the box a once over lightly and quit. I pointed to a master list of things in the footlocker that was taped to the underside of the lid. I said that because the box was so full the list might make the job more bearable; that it was packed military style; and it took me hours to do it. “But you got your job to do,” I emphasized, “and I don’t mind repacking, even though it will take me most of the day--go ahead on.”

    The dude was impressed by my politeness and complimentary attitude and he was convincing himself that a con who encourages a thorough search is probably clean. I did ask him, however, that as he took things out of the foot locker to place them on the bed--if he didn’t mind; and that he could glance at the list to see how orderly I kept my things.

    By this, I knew two things would take place in his mind: his eyes would check the list as I suggested; when he
    consistently found things in order, he’d feel he’s wasting his time; and the old buddy association I was developing would help convince him I was hiding nothing. So I figured after removing a few things he would conclude the search.

    It happened just as I thought.. He removed the top row of clothing and about half of the next, then said, “O.K., you’re clear,” and he moved on to the next cell.“Whew.” Breathing a sigh of relief, I decided this searcher came a little close and I had better put my escape plan in action soon. Tomorrow morning, I thought, was as good a time as any.

    My duck comes on duty at 7:45 a.m. At 8:00 a.m. the night shift goes home, and at the same time there is a major work release for prisoners: the corridor is always crowded at that time. I figured I had 15 minutes to get out of my room, slip into the broom closet, get into the uniform then melt into the crowd unnoticed. I would go to the exit door next to the control room where a sergeant is supposed to identify everyone leaving and stand with the group of officers waiting to go home.
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    The procedure for releasing officers from the security area at the joint is done like this: The sergeant at the control room looks at everyone wanting into the sallyport (a sallyport is a holding area in between two locked steel doors). When he’s satisfied he’s only releasing staff, he pushes a button which opens the first of two electronically controlled doors. Everyone enter and the first door closes. Before the second door is opened, an officer looks at everyone to assure the sergeant made no mistakes. Once the second door is opened they
    cross a patio to the administration building where another sallyport exists, and the procedure is repeated. When
    everyone passes through the administration building, there is a final sallyport where a tower man and a sergeant
    make sure the proper people enter and leave.

    In each of those sallyports, the employees who opened the doors were nightshift people and I had suspected that because they were tired and sleepy, they released people not on the basis of positive identification, but because they were a uniform. Well, at any rate, tomorrow morning I would find out how correct my suspicions were.

    The night passed slowly. I had a difficult time sleeping, so I spent most of the night going over and over every detail of the escape plan. Finally it was 7:45 a.m. I heard the lock door snap, and I knew it was my duck letting me out. I grabbed the uniform and rushed to the broom closet. The uniform fit like a glove! It’s funny how clothes can make you feel. I suddenly felt clean, almost like I wished I were on the side of the law and not a criminal. Then I thought of my stupid duck and decided I was better of as a hood.

    During morning work release, the day shift officers stand in the center of the corridor as inmates pass up and down the long hallway on their way to job assignments. Staff members going home walk along one wall to the control room and they are usually looking into the units being released; their faces are away from the corridor officers in the corridor, so it would not be suspicious if I did the same. I started out of the unit. As I passed the officers’ stations, I took my duck’s lunch box for realism. He started to object and I said, “Don’t say it, you dummy, or you’re dead.” I slipped into the crowd and made my way to the control. The sergeant was peering through the mirror identifying people. Then suddenly the bolt snapped and the electric door opened. Everyone stepped into the sallyport, and the door closed behind us. I kept my head down slightly so no one could get a direct look at my face. The officer looked everyone over from a small unbreakable window, and he was being careful. I thought it might be over at this point. The officer’s phone rang, some people were turning in and drawing keys, and in his momentary distraction, he opened the second door.

    When I was crossing the patio to the administration building, an officer coming on duty stopped me and asked me for a match. I felt panic surge through my veins. If the group got through the first door without me I would be alone, and alone, an unfamiliar officer was certain to be challenged. I searched my pockets quickly and said, “Sorry, guess I’m out of matches, too.” I hurried and caught the group just as the first door opened. The desk officer was flirting with a little blond secretary and just let everyone pass because they were all uniform personnel. The last sallyport was about 75 feet in front of us and the hardest one to get through. An officer in the tower by the entrance building--main gate as it was called--would identify the people leaving. If he recognized everyone, he would open the first gate. Once we’re inside the sallyport, the main gate sergeant checks everyone a final time before the gate to freedom can be opened.

    As the group approached this final sallyport my heart was in my throat. I began to think for the first time there was a possibility of my making it, even though I knew this would be the hardest hurdle. Everyone had now reached the gate. I kept my head low without being obvious about it. The tower man was scanning faces. Then he shouted, “You there, look up!” I didn’t know if he was talking to me but assumed he was. I shadowed my face with my hand like I was trying to keep the sum from blinding me and looked up, slightly waving my hand at him to indicate I recognized him. A long moment passed, then the door slid open. While waiting for the final check, I noticed a large group of officers standing in the main gate sergeants’ station ready to be admitted after the night crew were identified and released. I heard someone in our group say they were new officers going on an orientation tour. The gate sergeant’s eyes were scanning the group. I was trying to be inconspicuous by looking slightly away from him. It seemed an eternity of silence was being lived in those few moments. Then, my world fell apart when he shouted, “You, the officer with his back to me, come over here. I approached the window he was looking through and this time I looked him right in the eye. I felt disappointed and angry over being so close and getting caught, and had about decided to suddenly hit the fence even though I knew the tower man would shoot at me. I was mad enough to take that chance.

    The sergeant asked, “What are you doing there? You’re supposed to be with these new officers out here.”
    Thinking quickly, I replied in an apologetic voice, “I’m sorry sarg. But I thought the training officer said to meet him in the administration building.” “Who the hell let you in anyway?” The sergeant sorta growled in a tone indicating he was irritated with me. He opened the gate, and as I entered the gate house, he stood in front of me and demanded, “Now you stay with your group, understand?”


    “Yes--I will--sir. But do I have time to run to my car before the training officer gets here? I forgot my I.D. card.”The sergeant looked disgusted. “There’s one in every group. All right, make it fast, the lieutenant doesn’t like to be kept waiting!”

    I hurried to the far end of the main parking lot. Behind the last row of cars was a fence separating a corn field. I
    dropped to my knees behind a car and crawled on my stomach and slid under the barbed wire fence to the safety of the tall corn stalks. Keeping low I made my way to the main highway. I saw a car parked on the highway shoulder. No one was in it so I assumed the driver had run out of gas. I decided to stand in front of the car and hitchhike. My thinking was being in uniform and in front of the parked car, drivers would think it was mine and I had experienced car troubles. It worked! I had been standing about two minutes when this car pulled over. The driver motioned me to hurry when I noticed he was wearing the same kind of uniform I had on; my heart dropped. What was worse I recognized him as one of the wing officers at the joint I had just left. I was caught.

    “Get in.” he said sharply. I almost confessed “O.K., you caught me, I’ll go peacefully but I didn’t. The lump in my throat wouldn’t let me.“Where to?” he asked with a half smile. “The first town you come to so I can get some gas,” I managed to answer. The town was bout 20 miles away. As we drove, I gathered my wits. He said he’d help me get the gas and run me back to the car. He asked if I was a new employee at the joint and I was glad to confess I was. Then I said, “You don’t need to return me to the car. I’ll call my wife and she’ll pick me up.” “O.K.,” he said, “it’s no bother--you know, you sure remind me of someone I’ve met before!” “Really? Well…no! I’m sure we’ve never met,” I said.

    He dropped me at a service station, wished me well, and drove away. I was free! About three days later,
    I was miles away from that prison. I was hungry and tired so I decided to rob a store near the outskirts of the nearby city. During that robbery, I killed three people, but managed to keep from getting caught for over a year. Never mind how I got the gun. I was eventually apprehended, convicted and returned. I hated that stupid cop I ducked, and while I was on the streets my obsession to get a message to authorities so that cat would be fired was the thing which led to my apprehension and new conviction.

    Eventually I had to testify at his trial. Of course I couldn’t tell them much except that I had developed the duck and then the details of the cop’s violations. “Anything else you folks would like to know?” I asked my interviewers.

    “Only one thing. Now that you are back in prison, are you trying to acquire, or have you acquired another duck?”I leaned back on my chair, fixed my eyes on the petitioner as I thought about the question, took a stick of chewing gum from my shirt pocket, unwrapped it, and slowly slid it into my mouth. I stood to leave the room, paused at the door, smiled, and said, “They don’t sell gum in these joints…later, man!”
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    wo0o0ow!!!! that story kept me interested where I couldn't stop reading. def a learning lesson as to ALWAYS be firm and enforce the rules ALL the time b/c inmates pick up on that

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    10/10 excellent post!

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    Great story - These things happen all the time - Fair , Firm and Consistent.

    Sometime some CO's get caught up trying to be to nice to these characters...

    If and when I see a newer/older CO start being to friendly to inmates I immediately take them to the side - some people hate hearing it but it is a reality check.
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    Yup... saw this type of thing happen... In my facility, we had a few female officers walked out for "falling in love" with I/Ms.

    I was the C/O all the I/Ms hated-- I searched thoroughly, cuffed tightly, and enforced ALL the rules & regs. Heck, on my last shift, I wrote-up three I/Ms for having their cell windows covered. That was one of my "signature" enforcement issues. So I made sure those three had something to remember me by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt-NC View Post
    Yup... saw this type of thing happen... In my facility, we had a few female officers walked out for "falling in love" with I/Ms.

    I was the C/O all the I/Ms hated-- I searched thoroughly, cuffed tightly, and enforced ALL the rules & regs. Heck, on my last shift, I wrote-up three I/Ms for having their cell windows covered. That was one of my "signature" enforcement issues. So I made sure those three had something to remember me by.

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    At the prison I work a ton of non custody staff get walked off for falling in love or for bring stuff in for them (medical staff mainly).
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    every time i read stuff like that i am reminded that there is no innocent act that an inmate does.

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    good post, excellent read, its always good to have these important issues brought to everyone's attention outside of work, at home, when you have a moment to let it sink in.

    we recently had an inmate attempt to bribe a buddy of my at work (fellow officer), the inmate made repeated offering to pay for tobacco to be brought in, the officer repeatedly said NO, and informed our captain. the captain told him to run with it and see if he actually produced the money.

    so my buddy goes away for a week (to get on the state C.E.R.T. team) comes back the inmates offers again, my buddy plays it like sure, the inmate actually pulls out a $100.00 bill. got em! wrote multiple tickets and moved him to seg.

    i know its not as involved as the article above, but this stuff can happened anywhere.
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    This should be a mandatory reading for all in LE, I work in a county facility for 4 years now and have seen many officers taken out in cuff's due to I/M "Love" and contraband, and even conspirecy charges not just in the Jail but also in Patrol new and old timers so no one is immune just have to think and know to NEVER TRUST AN I/M!
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    Great post

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    Awesome. Thanks for sharing. Crap like this runs through my head every time an inmate asks for anything, even stuff they're allowed.
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    We got a copy of this in the academy. Unfortunately not all the officers have read it.
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    what a great article!!! All cos should have to read this. that just reinforces why i love sending these critters to the shu!!!

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    Got a copy in the academy, I made all my friends that work Corrections a copy.

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    After the original post i emailed it to the training Lt. and he now passes out a copy to all new CO's. And gives them the "you think it won't happen to you" speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groove View Post
    After the original post i emailed it to the training Lt. and he now passes out a copy to all new CO's. And gives them the "you think it won't happen to you" speech.
    When I posted it.......I also did an institutional wide email of the posting and to the training academy..........and to a select group of DOC staff I normally send Officer Safety materials to.

    Its worth re-reading every so often
    "Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon - no matter how good you are, the pigeon will still crap all over the board and strut around like it won anyway."



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    Just copied that onto 3 separate word documents, and will be conducting training on that topic next week.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looker View Post
    Just copied that onto 3 separate word documents, and will be conducting training on that topic next week.

    Thanks.
    I had it in one document...and had to split it in to three segments to post it here

    Its a good refresher for all staff ...................
    "Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon - no matter how good you are, the pigeon will still crap all over the board and strut around like it won anyway."



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    I read this and it's actually frightening to know that this stuff happens...

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    This is very good training material. Good reading while you're on nights as well. I gave a copy of it to my CTO. She thought it was really good as well. I also emailed it to all of our jail staff who enturn emailed to other deputies and correctional staff. Great refresher!

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    wow that story was amazing, lesson learned. Although youd have to be pretty stupid as an officer to ever et yourself into that situation. I dont put it past people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEQUEENSNY View Post
    wow that story was amazing, lesson learned. Although youd have to be pretty stupid as an officer to ever et yourself into that situation. I dont put it past people.
    While some of the story appears to be a bit of an exaggeration, being smart or stupid has nothing to do with this type of situation.

    Many people come into the field of "CORRECTIONS" with idea that they can rehabilitate the big bad crimimals, change their lives, and all will be great with the world. Many people who begin working in public service are "helper" indivudals-----------why else would we do it except to help our fellow humans-----(and a paycheck of course).

    The thug in the story exploits the "helper" traits in his mark and feds his ego to the point where he(the mark) made some mistakes. The Convict (emphisas on the word CON) then exploited those mistakes by using the marks lack of self confidence, low self esteme, and general mediocre job perfomance to remind the mark that he could loose his job if the CON told on him.

    This seneario played out on a daily basis in the jails / prisons in the world. 99.99% of the Corrections staff who bring contraband into prison did not come into the profession to commit crimes, they were hooked by a professional con man and rather than admit to their boss that they screwed up---------------they knuckled under.

    Many of them have been college educated with advanced degrees..........and many of the cons who scammed them never finished high school.
    "Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon - no matter how good you are, the pigeon will still crap all over the board and strut around like it won anyway."



    I don't know it all, I know a little about a lot and a lot about a little---slamdunc


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    can i get some cliffs?

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