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    NYC: Special Officer vs Special Patrolman.. Whats the difference?

    I know Special Patrolman status gives Peace Officer status to certain people, such as NYPD School Safety Agents. I have never seen anyone with Special Officer status, and am not sure what it gives(Police officer status, Peace officer status, etc). What is the difference between the 2? And who uses Special Officer status?



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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCAPO View Post
    I know Special Patrolman status gives Peace Officer status to certain people, such as NYPD School Safety Agents. I have never seen anyone with Special Officer status, and am not sure what it gives(Police officer status, Peace officer status, etc). What is the difference between the 2? And who uses Special Officer status?




    Special Officers are peace officers who perform security and law enforcement functions for various city agencies. The title itself is only a civil service title and is not used in reality. Those hired under the "Special Officer" exam are usually referred to as "police" of whatever agency it is that they work for (Hospital Police, DOH Police, DHS Police, HRA Police, etc...). Most carry only handcuffs and batons, but I believe that certain ones may be armed. For example, I have heard that Human Resources Adminisration Police carry, although I'm not 100% sure. Like most other peace officers, they have arrest powers and some issue VTL summonses as well.

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    Fuerza is correct again. Special Officer is a civil service title for city agencies, and special patrolmen are peace officers for agencies in NYC that either give their own exam or hire independant from DCAS. Usually a Special Officer position is processed by DCAS and an agency like CCPD may use their own people to process them. Thats why CCPD are special patrolmen and not special officers (however they are one in the same).

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    PARTIALLY CORRECT.

    SPECIAL OFFICER for the MOST part is a civil service exam type of status. ALTHOUGH some agencies hire w/o taking an exam, such as HHC.

    Some special officers are ARMED, such as DCAS.

    SPECIAL PATROLMEN can be used for SOME civil service titles.. such as TLC, SSA's. For the MOST PART, special patrolmen are used for private entities or quazi city/state type agencies... COOP CITY, SPRING CREEK, LEFRAK ...etc.

    Some special patrolmen are armed as well, such as COOP CITY, SPRING CREEK and LEFRAK.

    These agencies enlist in the special patrolmen program and work with NYPD licensing division to gain status to use peace officer status in NYC.

    I dont know how exactly special officers gain their status, if its automatic or not.. or if its with NYPD. So therefor I cannot comment on that.
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    Special Officers gain their status from the NYS CPL 2.10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCTNT View Post
    PARTIALLY CORRECT.

    SPECIAL OFFICER for the MOST part is a civil service exam type of status. ALTHOUGH some agencies hire w/o taking an exam, such as HHC.

    Some special officers are ARMED, such as DCAS.

    SPECIAL PATROLMEN can be used for SOME civil service titles.. such as TLC, SSA's. For the MOST PART, special patrolmen are used for private entities or quazi city/state type agencies... COOP CITY, SPRING CREEK, LEFRAK ...etc.

    Some special patrolmen are armed as well, such as COOP CITY, SPRING CREEK and LEFRAK.

    These agencies enlist in the special patrolmen program and work with NYPD licensing division to gain status to use peace officer status in NYC.

    I dont know how exactly special officers gain their status, if its automatic or not.. or if its with NYPD. So therefor I cannot comment on that.
    HHC does hire from a civil service exam, they just have a separate one from the rest of the agencies that hire Specials. For example, on the DCAS website you will often see two exams listed, "Special Officer" and "Special Officer (HHC)".

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    Thanks for the information everyone.
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    You can also apply per hospital via HHC website for Hospital Police openings.

    You are not protected under civil service and I believe the next time the exam comes around, you need to take it. They hire you as a provisional.

    The website is down now, but a buddy of mine applied for Lincoln Hospital and was hired as a provisional.

    Many other NYC agencies use to hire on a provisional basis.

    I should have clarified that on my first post.

    PAC, ALL peace officers gain their status from 2.10, I just dont know if its under special patrolman section in the CPL or if they have their own line in the CPL. Special Patrolmen dont gain their status per say from the NYPD, it ultimately comes from 2.10 but you have to be recognized by NYPD to go through 2.10. Its weird.
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    I know HHC has their own line in the CPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCTNT View Post
    You can also apply per hospital via HHC website for Hospital Police openings.

    You are not protected under civil service and I believe the next time the exam comes around, you need to take it. They hire you as a provisional.

    The website is down now, but a buddy of mine applied for Lincoln Hospital and was hired as a provisional.

    Many other NYC agencies use to hire on a provisional basis.

    I should have clarified that on my first post.
    Well that's interesting. Now that you mention it, I think that the NY Public Library does that also for Specials. I've seen postings for it on their website in the past that didn't mention being on a civil service list as a requirement, but just didn't think anything of it.

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    NYPD Special Partrolmen hired by civil service or provisional city agengies have 24/7 Peace Officer status(TLC,PARKS,DOT,). But private agenices that hire Officers or security guards with NYPD SP Status only have their P.O. status while on-duty(CCPD,spring creek,) NYPD SP status is for agencies that need their officers to have law enforcement powers but their title do not have its own line in the CPL so NYC and NYPD have enough juice that they can appoint their own Peace Officers for NYC.
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    Macy's Security has Special Patrolmen, they actually used to bring their own arrests to MCB years ago. .

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    special officer patch

    The “special officer” patch was created in 1997 and used by the dept of homeless services. The administration of DHS at that time DID NOT want the word "POLICE" on the officers uniform, nor the badge. (I was one of the original Special officers hired in that program.)
    The Special Patrolman patch is used for non city-agencies ex: Brooklyn library, coop city, Delano village, and lefrak city. Even though these agencies give a strong city government appearance, they are not. However, there status is issued by the NYPD.














    Quote Originally Posted by NYCAPO View Post
    I know Special Patrolman status gives Peace Officer status to certain people, such as NYPD School Safety Agents. I have never seen anyone with Special Officer status, and am not sure what it gives(Police officer status, Peace officer status, etc). What is the difference between the 2? And who uses Special Officer status?




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    Not sure about the other agencies you mention there, but the Co-Op City DPS has not worn the Special patch in probably 15 years. The word "police" is used on the patch and is used on other insignia worn by the agency as well as their vehicles.




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    With only 89 cops for the area, I would imagine that Co-Op City would be a VERY difficult organization to get into!!!
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    Definitely. Though certainly would love to work there; but with my leg, I cant do the run. sadly.

    CO - how've you been? Long time, no see.
    You know I applied for Homeless Serv Police a few months ago and never heard anything back. been thinking about City Park Police/PEP

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    I work with PEP from time to time on one of my precincts park areas.

    They all like it overall, although they should be armed as the...errr.. miguided citizens they deal with are very very very skelly at times.

    They make arrests, issue criminal summonses, parking as well. I dont know if they write moving summonses or not as the topic was never brought up.

    The one thing they really complain is the fact that promotional advances are a bit skewed. Oh well.. what else is new.

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    Yeah. I actually applied a while back, had an interview with the PEP board - two sergeants - who said they were pretty impressed, then nothing. So I just forgot it. That was about the time I got on with DE DOC so I just stayed down here. I really wanted to work there tho - I love the outdoors, get to stay a peace officer, and have the hope of eventually getting a k9 or mounted spot.

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    special officers V. patrolmen

    Special officers from DHS, DJJ, ACS, HHC were getting there training through John jay college, Peace officer training program as well as their state certification. DCAS however is going through NYPD so they can carry firearms.

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCTNT View Post
    PARTIALLY CORRECT.

    SPECIAL OFFICER for the MOST part is a civil service exam type of status. ALTHOUGH some agencies hire w/o taking an exam, such as HHC.

    Some special officers are ARMED, such as DCAS.

    SPECIAL PATROLMEN can be used for SOME civil service titles.. such as TLC, SSA's. For the MOST PART, special patrolmen are used for private entities or quazi city/state type agencies... COOP CITY, SPRING CREEK, LEFRAK ...etc.

    Some special patrolmen are armed as well, such as COOP CITY, SPRING CREEK and LEFRAK.

    These agencies enlist in the special patrolmen program and work with NYPD licensing division to gain status to use peace officer status in NYC.

    I dont know how exactly special officers gain their status, if its automatic or not.. or if its with NYPD. So therefor I cannot comment on that.

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    What do you mean going through NYPD?

    They are surely NOT going through the NYPD academy.

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    Perhaps he is speaking of Applicant Processing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofc C Robinson View Post
    Special officers from DHS, DJJ, ACS, HHC were getting there training through John jay college, Peace officer training program as well as their state certification. DCAS however is going through NYPD so they can carry firearms.
    He's saying that only DCAS Law Enforcement Officers go through theNYPD Academy for only their firearms trainning. All Else is at John Jay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCTNT View Post
    What do you mean going through NYPD?

    They are surely NOT going through the NYPD academy.
    Special Patrolmen get that status to carry on duty through the NYPD however they cannot carry off duty and have to leave their firearms with their employers at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAPD 8-2 View Post
    Special Patrolmen get that status to carry on duty through the NYPD however they cannot carry off duty and have to leave their firearms with their employers at the end of the day.
    But they can get a permit to carry off duty couldn't they?
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    PAPD I do know that already, which I do NOT agree with.

    They cannot get a permit to carry off duty, not even a personal one. In their eyes, bad guys stop messing with you once you are off duty...

    seriously now.

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