Thread: Private Firearm Sales In Florida
07-21-2007, 10:10 PM #1
Private Firearm Sales In Florida
Hey guys. i know this question has been asked before, but I also know Florida is different or more relaxed with a lot of firearms laws and wanted to get some specific info. My problem is i recently sold a Sig pistol to a friend of mine's brother on the agreement that I would get him to sign a bill of sale that i typed up and have it notorized. The night of the sale, he and i did not have the time to do it on the spot (and I needed the $$$ ASAP), which is my mistake. its been almost 3 months now and i just wanted to clarify whether or not it is legally necessary in FL to have a bill of sale notorized in Florida. Also, I hate to ask cause he "seems" to be a good person, but business fist, but if he ultimatly refuses to even sign a bill of sale, is there anything I can do? Thanks guys-"He detested failure more than anything else, even betrayal. Betrayal required intelligence and ruthlessness, failure only stupidity or lack of concentration."
07-21-2007, 11:46 PM #2
I got a few statues to read through, but I will get back to you as I can. As far as I can tell, no, as a private party selling to another, you are not required to keep a bill of sell, and actually, under F.S.S 790.335 states that it is illegal to keep a record for a database of registered gun owners. However, it's never a bad idea to keep a record of a gun sell to CYA.You have the right to remain silent, but apparently you lack the skill to exercise that right.
07-22-2007, 11:57 PM #3
As far as I'm aware, you need no bill of sale....but let me run this by you. First, are you the original purchaser of the gun from a legitimate gun store? If you were, I highly recommend you do the bill of sale, or keep whatever you typed up as a bill of sale. The reason why is, if you were the original purchaser of the weapon, then you were required by law to complete (not 100% sure, but form #4473) at the time of sale. Now, say for instance your friend, who now has the weapon, kills someone with that gun. ATF will come looking for you because your name is on the paperwork. Wouldn't it be nice to point them to someone else? If you do the bill of sale, or at least keep some type of information on your friend, ATF, or whoever investigates the crime, will have a paper trail to go by. Once the gun is purchased, it is up to the owner or future owners to maintain the "trail" of the gun, but it is not required.
If I'm wrong, please let me know.
07-23-2007, 01:00 AM #4
Here in the glorious Socialist People's Republic of California, we have to take our private firearm sales to an FFL dealer and do the same paperwork, paying $25, or so, to the FFL dealer for their time. Same waiting periods and same background checks to the buyer.
Unless I'm mistaken, and I would like to be, firearm transactions are primarily federal matter, and not the state's business."Many times, I have thoughts and feelings which can only be expressed through dance!" - Bender, Futurama
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07-25-2007, 07:05 AM #5
No, it isn't required in Florida, however Sig is one of a few companies that do test fires and track original sales of their firearms. If you are the original owner of the gun, and someone ends up using it in a crime later down the road, they are going to come to you first and expect you to prove you did not own it at the time.Sheriff: We just take turns being the sheriff. It's real easy. You just hang out here, eat some pie, and get drunk.
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