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    Difference between Sheriff's Department and Police Department!

    I understand the whole County/City thing, but how do they differ when it comes to shootings and all that. In the area where I live, there has been quite a few shootings and the Sheriff's Department never get's mentioned, it is always the Police is it because it's within the city and not outside like in a rural area?

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    Jurisdiction. How it works out here is....If the city is incorporated then the police have jurisdiction. If the "city" is unincorporated then the Sheriff of the County has jurisdiction.

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    Typically Sheriffs operate on behalf of the court. They are responsible for holding inmates before having trial if necessary, serving court orders such as warrants and civil papers, as well as court security.

    Police act on behalf of a city or county mayor or council.

    How active a roll either part plays when they have the same jurisdiction is just a matter of which way the political winds are blowing, really.
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    Depends on the area-in Houston, both the police and sheriff's office are involved in shootings, seems the police a bit more.
    In Louisville, KY where I grew up, the SO was rarely involved in any while the PD had been in numerous incidents. But the difference in population and LE organization numbers are very different between the 2 cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lt93lover
    Depends on the area-in Houston, both the police and sheriff's office are involved in shootings, seems the police a bit more.
    In Louisville, KY where I grew up, the SO was rarely involved in any while the PD had been in numerous incidents. But the difference in population and LE organization numbers are very different between the 2 cities.

    Same here.I work for a Sheriffs office and do all the same things the local PD guys do.In my career I have done everything from Murders to getting Cows off the roadway as a Sheriffs deputy.Just depends on the area.
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    I also work for a sheriff's office. We mainly work in unincorporated areas of the county or in towns that have contracted with us for police service. We also frequently back up police departments on calls and major cases.
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    Well, as we like to say - the Sheriff is the supreme law enforcement officer in the county.

    We provide all levels of law enforcement to unincorporated areas of the county, as well as for 9 cities that contract with us. We have SED (aka SWAT) air support, bomb/arson, gang detail, you name it - as well as staffing 7 jails, security for the courts and court services (formerly marshall's)

    We also maintain the regional radio system, and are the psp for 911 in the county.
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    I'm going to work for the E. Baton Rouge Sheriff's Office, inside our parish the Baton Rouge Police take calls inside the city limits. Basically we have jurisdiction over the entire parish of east baton rouge, the BRPD only has jurisdiction over the city of baton rouge. We can, and do, take calls in the city limits if they need help or we are requested, but they cannot take calls outside the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullitt48
    I'm going to work for the E. Baton Rouge Sheriff's Office, inside our parish the Baton Rouge Police take calls inside the city limits. Basically we have jurisdiction over the entire parish of east baton rouge, the BRPD only has jurisdiction over the city of baton rouge. We can, and do, take calls in the city limits if they need help or we are requested, but they cannot take calls outside the city.
    Acutally BRPD can assist EBRSO if they need it, so yes they can respond out of the city linits if need be.
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    irish i was under the impression they werent really supposed to go outside the city, i guess they meant they can assist us if we need it, they just dont do patrol and take normal calls outside the city. we have only discussed the issue for a few minutes in a class a month or so ago, I imagine we'll go into details about it in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishlad2nv
    Acutally BRPD can assist EBRSO if they need it, so yes they can respond out of the city linits if need be.
    I assume it is like most places,if requested to go outside of their jurisdiction they are operating under the power of the Agency that is requesting and has the jurisdiction.
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    in oklahoma in my small county it works like this. if it lies within the county line, its my jurisdiction. it doesnt matter if the town has a contract or not i can still work there or respond to a call there if i want to. of course the towns that have police i dont really patrol just because they have there dept. taking care of it and i go out into the rural areas. any time a i need help, the closest city will gladly send someone to assist. if i am getting shot at i can probably get help from people i didnt know were cops. other than that city officers just take care of their city. i have understood that up in the northern u.s. the sheriff's offices just run the jails and get the inmates back and forth to court and provide a baliff for court. i think a lot of them also serve the civil papers and subpeonas. in the south i think it sums it up to think of the sheriff's office as the county police. i dont answer to a council, the commisioners cant tell me anything to do. the sheriff and under sheriff are my only boss's. we are a small county with few deputy's so we dont have captains and LT's and the rest of the structured command.

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    Not quite, the Sherriff is elected and has absolute jurisdinction within the county.
    He can take PD`s anytime.
    Marshal`s are elected and have jurisdicdiction over any city in the Township.
    Chiefs are appointed by politicions who are up to no good.
    I knew a city PD cop that liked to stretch his jurisdiction. He was fired.
    He was a very good cop. just a bit over eager. The Sheriff did not appreaciate it.
    Lying about where the start of the pursuit took place did not help him.



    Quote Originally Posted by deputy x 2
    Jurisdiction. How it works out here is....If the city is incorporated then the police have jurisdiction. If the "city" is unincorporated then the Sheriff of the County has jurisdiction.
    Last edited by marshaldan; 12-05-2005 at 06:11 PM.

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    You own the county(Deputy)... Or the county owns you(Officer)....


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    Jurisdiction

    Can someone go one step further and explain all the various agencies and how the jurisdiction overlaps, etc.

    You have PD, Sherriffs, highway patrol, customs, immigration, etc.

    Here we have 1 police force and thats it. Its all covered by us. Hows it work? Who takes control of areas? If they both rerspond who is in charge? Does 'active pursuit' play a part in jurisdiction?

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    Staters have jurisdiction in the state. They generaly patrol state roads. Deputies generaly patrol county roads.
    PD`s patrol city streets.
    Howeve, both state and county officers have the last say over PD`s.
    It usually works out.

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    Example please

    Quote Originally Posted by marshaldan
    Staters have jurisdiction in the state. They generaly patrol state roads. Deputies generaly patrol county roads.
    PD`s patrol city streets.
    Howeve, both state and county officers have the last say over PD`s.
    It usually works out.
    Example if you dont mind, take the NYPD or LAPD, who crosses over with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnGardaSiochana
    Example if you dont mind, take the NYPD or LAPD, who crosses over with them?

    LAPD is resposible for all the Area inside the city of LA.The LA county SHeriffs office is resposible for the areas outside of the city limits of the various city in LA county.But they LA County Sheriffs still have jurisdiction in the various cities also.The California Highway Patrol has Jurisdiction over all of California and mostly work Speeders,and Accidents outside the various Cities and towns.

    For example,a California highway patrolman can stop a vehicle for running a red light in downtown LA.So can a LAPD officer on duty,so can a LA county Deputy Sheriff on duty.They all have jurisdiction.If for some reason a LAPD unit is traveling outside the city limits of LA and see an infraction,they would have to notify the Appropriate Agnecy for that area,be it LA County Sheriffs or San Diego PD or wherever they are at.

    Hope that explains a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnGardaSiochana
    Example if you dont mind, take the NYPD or LAPD, who crosses over with them?
    Well LAPD you have about 50 municiapal smaller departments in the greater LA city area. Then you have LAPD. LA county Sheriffs office and Califonia HIghway patrol.

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    So does the LAPD take care of the city itself and the sheriffs the outskirts and CHP are just highway? Can they speak with eachother by radio or seperate sustems?

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    Around here the Passaic County Sheriff's Department, among other assignments, helps supplement the local patrols. They also provide specialized services such as bomb squad, K9, and tactical teams that small local department do not have.

    The Sheriff's department also provides county court security and maintains the county jail.

    There are two classifications of officers within the Sheriff's department:
    1) Sheriff's Officer (Officers with patrol duties)
    2) Corrections Officer (Officers in the jail and court house)

    Each has specific type of job.

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    There was a war in the 60`s between the CHP and the LAPD.
    With 7,900 men LAPD thought they had the power. They lost.
    They lost on the streets.
    It is a long story.

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    PD's respond to more calls that relate to businesses. (bars, , shops etc.)

    SO's respond to more residence related calls.

    PD's usually have more job security than SO's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnGardaSiochana
    So does the LAPD take care of the city itself and the sheriffs the outskirts and CHP are just highway? Can they speak with eachother by radio or seperate sustems?

    Pretty much.they all have their own freqs.I guess they could talk on a freq if they were told to go to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigg Dogg
    If for some reason a LAPD unit is traveling outside the city limits of LA and see an infraction,they would have to notify the Appropriate Agnecy for that area,be it LA County Sheriffs or San Diego PD or wherever they are at.

    Hope that explains a little.
    That is not exactly correct. If an LAPD unit is traveling outside of the City of Los Angeles and observes a vehicle code violation or any crime in progress for the matter, they CAN act on it. I say can because they may not and simply relay it to the appropriate agency depending on the severity of it. But by all means, they can act on it without notifying anyone for authority. The same goes for most California agencies. The exception would be some specialized agencies who have restrictions or limited resources.

    This happens quite frequently within Los Angeles County as we have a hundreds of agencies and most all agencies overlap with regards to their "jurisdiction."

    Using LAPD as the working example, it is beyond routine for you to see an LAPD unit traveling and stopped in such neighboring cities as:
    - Culver City (CCPD)
    - Inglewood (IPD)
    - Santa Monica (SMPD)
    - West Hollywood (LASD West Hollywood Station)

    The City of Los Angeles is very oddly formed and is not just bordered by 3 to 4 cities as most are, so it is quite common.

    As far as the Sheriff's Department is concerned, the large Sheriff's Departments in Southern California (Los Angeles County, Orange County, Riverside County, San Bernadino County, Ventura County, and San Diego County) all operate patrol divisions in addition to their court and custody (jail) divisions. In addition to handling patrols in unincorporated areas (i.e. Marina Del Rey for the LASD), they also provide contract law enforcement services for cities (i.e. West Hollywood for LASD).

    As an interesting tidbit LASD is the largest Sheriff's Department in the world and operates the largest jail system in the world.
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