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    PA Deputy Sheriff

    Does anyone know the requirements to be a deputy in pa. I'm interested in working in McKean, Potter or Tioga. Does anyone have any info on these Sheriff's Office's?

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    I have looked everywhere to find any type of info on those three counties and all I can find is their address and phone number, which you may already have.

    Now here is some info that maybe of help to you:
    Employment Requirements
    Act 120 Municipal Police Officers Certification
    Possess a high school diploma or the equivalent
    Two years experience in law enforcement or corrections
    Have a current PA driver's license
    Possess adequate physical and mental health to withstand rigorous activity.
    Applicants must pass an agility test prior to application. The Sheriff conducts the test every two (2) years.
    Obtain and submit an application for employment
    Written Exam
    Complete an interview with the sheriff, chief deputy, and commander
    Successfully complete a thorough background investigation
    Medical examination
    Drug screening
    Polygraph examination
    Psychological exam
    Graduation from the Pennsylvania Deputy Sheriffs

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    There's only one county in Pa. I think that does road patrol. The rest do the courts, central booking, warrants etc. The 2 deputies killed in Susquehanna County last year were serving a B.S. warrant on a guy they knew for years.
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    I work in Tioga County as a police officer and our sheriff is now attempting to have two of his deputies do minimal roadwork. Both of them are Act 120 certified. And in reference to the two deputies killed serving the warrant I believe you meant Bradford County which borders Tioga to the East.

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    Hmmm.. How long till the PSP union has a hissy fit because they lose some jurisdiction to a sheriff's office, like they did when Chester co. looked into having a full SO.

    Why would you need Act 120 tyo be a deputy when they have their own school at State college?
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    [URL=http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/037/chapter421/chap421toc.html]Pennsylvania Deputy Sheriffs

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    Anyone have anymore info. By the way are PA deputies recuired to wear basketweave duty gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT. EXPLORER
    Anyone have anymore info. By the way are PA deputies recuired to wear basketweave duty gear?
    "Required?" Oh, please, LT.
    Like you DON'T want to wear basketweave!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT. EXPLORER
    Anyone have anymore info. By the way are PA deputies recuired to wear basketweave duty gear?

    Not in Philadelphia. Ive seen their deputies wear all sorts of duty belts.
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    What sheriff's office is that

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT. EXPLORER
    What sheriff's office is that

    Philadelphia Sheriff's Office
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    Quote Originally Posted by orlandofed5-0
    Hmmm.. How long till the PSP union has a hissy fit because they lose some jurisdiction to a sheriff's office, like they did when Chester co. looked into having a full SO.

    Why would you need Act 120 tyo be a deputy when they have their own school at State college?
    Whether a county SO has full jurisdiction won't take away jurisdiction from the PSP. Hell right now, the PSP is only bitching b/c they are so short on people. They are supposed to be taking the I-95 corridor and I-76 EXP from PPD....talk about an over burden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schlecht
    Whether a county SO has full jurisdiction won't take away jurisdiction from the PSP. Hell right now, the PSP is only bitching b/c they are so short on people. They are supposed to be taking the I-95 corridor and I-76 EXP from PPD....talk about an over burden.
    Can you explain this in more detail?

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    I believe you meant Bradford County which borders Tioga to the East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT. EXPLORER
    Can you explain this in more detail?
    NOTE these are situations as I understand them, I may be wrong, use at your own risk...

    Philadelphia Police Dept. has its own Expressway Patrol squad (formerly part of more well known Highway Patrol, which still exists but doesn't do highway patrolling anymore) - anyway, Expressway Patrol patrols the limited access highways (such as I-76, I-95, I-676) within Philadelphia limits. Pennsylvania State Police patrol the limited access highways (LAHs) everywhere else in the state. PA state budget this year will provide for PSP to take over patrol duties from PPD in the coming months. PSP has no barracks deep within the city; Belmont is closest, but it's really right on the city border. They are also I believe short staffed in general, without taking on a whole 'nother ball of wax. I have seen some estimates that 70 additional troopers are needed to assume patrol from Philly, plus more cars, plus X, plus Y, plus Z. I have heard they plan to divide city among 3 barracks - Belmont for 76, Trevose for 95 northern half, Media for 95 southern half.

    If a Sheriff or other were to do roadwork, they can only do so on LAHs through an agreement with PSP, unless I am mistaken. (That is, I think municipal/county LE cannot patrol LAHs without a preset agreement with PSP.) Therefore PSP cannot bithc about loss of jurisdiction because a.) there'd be an agreement in place and b.) local LE having such an agreement probably would not preclude PSP from patrolling same LAHs.

    On to a long, dull, boring and possibly/probably incorrect backstory to Phila/PSP discord above...

    According to (I think) state law, PSP should patrol LAHs; if PSP does not patrol them, leaving it to local police, then the state is supposed to reimburse the locals for cost. Now, Philly PD has patrolled the LAHs for like 50 years without reimbursement, and the city has finally grumbled about budgets etc., and told the state no more free rides - patrol or reimburse, to the tune of something like $5.5 Million/yr. (I think the city wanted the money, since they've ALWAYS patrolled, it'd be like just finding $5.5M more in the budget.) The state called the city's bluff, and will begin patrolling the LAHs in the next 6 mos-1 yr. I hear this plan has been kicked around for 10 years or so. Why this year they decide to go for it, who knows. See Domelights forums for one discussion of the coming debacle; look around that site and you'll find more info.

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    PSP is understaffed throughout the whole state and should be happy that PPD was patrolling the highways. PSP cannot lose jurisdiction in the state unless it is a military base or such. PSP is not highway patrol so that means they have to cover all areas with no local Pd and again should be happy if a Pd patrols a highway. I believe there are about 6,000 troopers for how many sq. miles and how many people.

    PSP is simply overrated and understaffed.

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    From my understanding in reguards to the PSP complaining, it came from a friend over at Chester SO.

    When Chester was looking to form a full time road patrol, they were going to buy out the contracts from the townships and boroughs who contract from PSP. PSP would no longer be the agency of record and would lose the funding of the contracted troopers. The PSP union complained that the sheriff had no authority to have a road patrol or act as a police agency. With the PA Supreme Court ruling reguarding SO's rights in reguards to traffic and other duties, these deputies would of been 120 certified and would of had the authority to enforce the law the same as an municpal police officer. They would of not been on any highways for traffic but rather would of taken jurisdiction away as being the primary agency for enforcement purposes for several townships and boroughs who currently contract with PSP for their services.
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    PSP should be happy to have a SO take over as main provider of enforcement. PSP still has jurisdiction, but they don

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    Orlandofed, funding has nothing to do with the PSTA's (the troopers union) opposition to a sheriff's taking over policing in any county in the Commonwealth. PSP does not contract with any municipality for service. As a taxpayer supported agency we provide services to any political subdivision that needs it without charge. That includes municipalities with their own PD in the form of support services; from lab services, aviation support, assistance with computer crime, additional manpower for large events, as well as handling any investigations that a local PD requests that we take over for what ever reason, etc.

    The PSTA was voicing opposition to the sheriff's take over of local policing for the same reason that Philly's FOP president is voicing opposition to the PSP taking over patrolling the Interstates in the city. Both unions are interested in protecting their members jobs. If the Chester County SO had expanded to take over the municipalities that don't have full time PD there would be a real possibility that one or both of the stations in Chester County would have been closed and the troopers could have been transfered any where in the state. Any Union that doesn't attempt to protect it's members livelyhood is irresponsible.

    In response to some of the other comments, we are terribly understaffed. We have been understaffed my entire 20+ years on the job. It has gotten worse lately. In 2000 a study was done by an independent agency into our staffing levels and found that we were 370 troopers short of minimum staffing level. Since that time we've had the responsibility for Homeland Security at the state level added,as well as policing the casinos and have picked up more municipalities that have dropped their PD's for lack of funding. This latest authorization to add 120 troopers and 60 civilian positions will work out like this. 60 troopers to Troop K to cover Philly's Interstates, 90 troopers to the gambling unit which leaves 30 troopers to make up for the 370 we were short in the rest of the state before. And the 60 positions that they want to civilianize are mostly in the labs. Balistic examiners and questioned documents and other specialized forensic positions. These positions will take several years to train people to the level that they will be accepted as expert withnesses either that or the state will have to hire experts away from other labs. The second option will cost a lot more that keeping troopers in the lab.

    I resent the comment that the PSP is over rated. I work just as hard as any municipal police officer in the state. Most troopers that I know carry an extremely heavy caseload and most of us have very very large patrol areas to cover. The station area that I work has 900 sq. miles to cover. Most shifts we are lucky to have three patrol troopers, a criminal investigator and a supervisor for the shift. On midnights it's one car with two troopers. If you need backup you are lucky if it gets to you within 45 minutes. I don't denigrate municipal officers for what they do. But by necessity how we do our jobs is a little different.
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    I stand by my overrated comment, but let me clear it up before an argument arises. I support all the troopers in the state, but it is not worth the risk to work for the PSP. I said it, you said it, PSP is understaffed and back up is never close. Patrol areas are to large and to many municipalities to cover.

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    I had a question. I am almost positive that it is against the law in PA for a county police/sheriff agency to be the primary law enforcement service provider to a municipality. I also heard that no one has done this yet because there must be a change in state law. Has anyonelse heard this? I think it had something to do with preserving the autonomy of the muncipalites if the county ever tried to take over and if I know anything about PA its everyone loves their fiefdom.

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