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    Ever have that 1 call that gets to you?

    I can deal with just about anything..I have seen anything you can imagine through my medic/ER/military/LEO careers, but I answered a call a couple days ago that is really bothering me.

    It is a 11 year old kid..single mom parent is a homosexual drug addict, her girlfriends/wives/whatever make him watch porn and do who knows what else that he won't talk about. He acts out when he even sees a bikini on TV. Grandparents adopt him but live in a ****hole pay-by-week apartment. He gets bullied at school and is exposed to drug use/sales constantly (by said grandparents).

    The kid very intelligent and Lord knows has more street smarts than I ever had at that age. He says he has no friends, etc...

    I feel like he is falling through the cracks of society. I just can't stop thinking about the little kid and what I can do to help him avoid the in and out of jail path he is on. I have little to no faith in out child protective services.

    Have you ever had that call that sticks with you...what did you do to put it behind you or did you?

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    If this is the *one* call that really bothers you, I hope you don't put it behind you. I've got zero "social worker" skills in me, but I think it would be amazing if you stayed in touch with the kid, and maybe that ended up being the difference between staying on the right path and turning to the dark side.

    I wish there was an easier answer, though. A phone number you could call where someone would know exactly what to do to fix it. Good luck...
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    I wish it had only been one call during my career.
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    I'm right there with on the social worker skills. I have answered calls exactly like this hundreds, if not thousands, of times...but for some reason this kid just keeps popping into my head.

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    1982,child(aged 4,female,same age as my own at the time,beautiful lil blonde haired blue eyed youngster) killed by a boyfriend of the mother.Hit in the temple with a "cowboy" belt buckle.Advice of rights given verbally and in written form a total of 7 times.Confession given,moms involvement(not reporting earlier incidents) confessed to and also documented,and confessed to.Year and a half,and 9 continuances later,I ask the D.A. why??,his answer?? pretty weak case.Ahhhh,La. politics at their best,wealthy family for the murderer.Move forward to 1984,absolutely no record of the case can be found anymore,like the proverbial "fart in the wind" it went bye-bye.I quit! and stayed "quit " till 2002,it totally burned me out.
    Now I am back in,and am nearing the end of my career,but I still have 2 years or so,and I will tell you this,I still hope to run into Kenneth B********, and Terri ,C******.I truly beleive the God does not sleep.
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    He/she said 5 year old girl vs. 35 year old pedo. The girl had details that no 5 year old ever would have if it wasn't legit. I had to sit with this animal for over an hour and have a conversation with him while my partner talked to the girl. DA actually stepped up to the plate and he got over 30 years.

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    Same as the last few. Kids, man.

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    The only "call" that ever really bothered me was taking a new born to morgue. It was a natural death no foul pay at all. The hard part was the fact that the body bag was small then a briefcase, it was just weird and sad.
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    Yep, kids. Here are a few of mine in no particular order:

    1- Babysitting a dead four month-old boy who happened to look just like my then-four-month old boy, waiting for the coroner for 3 hours. He had been shaken, then slammed onto a coffee table, then thrown against the wall, and then shaken some more.

    2- My friend being murdered in the line of duty. I remember every second of that night, and every radio transmission. I even remember what my LT's lunch smelled like when I went back to the office to write my report. I want to forget it all, but my brain won't let me.

    3- Telling a mother and father their child was dead unexpectedly.

    4- An old fat guy taking a swing at me, putting on a control hold with my PR-24, taking him to the ground, and smashing the bones in his face. Some people poo poo me for feeling bad about it because it was completely legit, but I didn't sign up to beat up old men. I'm allowed to let it bother me.

    5- A mother breastfeeding while driving drunk, crashed, chopped the top of her baby's head off with the bottom of the steering wheel. Mom lived.

    6- Having to watch 20 seconds of child porn. 35 year-old dude and 2 year-old girl. You get the picture. I still have nightmares about it from time to time, and I'm not ashamed to admit it made me cry.
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    Mother DUI alcohol, cocaine and prescription meds blows a red light. Twins in the backseat, boy & girl, unbuckled, are both ejected through the rear window. I'll never forget it. I had just stuck the fuel nozzle into my patrol car.

    ":unit #: hold me out for fuel please"
    ":unit #: NEGATIVE. Start responding to..."

    at which point they gave me the description of a crash involving an overturned vehicle. I arrive on scene and there's a woman sitting up in the center median looking confused, but otherwise OK. In the center median are 2 screaming little kids. I'll never forget it because the girl was bleeding from a deep laceration on her head, but the boy - and this is the part that sticks with me - had landed in a fire ant hill and they were all over him. I remember thinking that he must be in agony, and as if his life hadn't turned crappy enough, THAT'S where he had to land? Thankfully Rescue showed up very quickly, and they stabilized him enough to be moved. I remember feeling conflicted...just wanting to get him away from those ants, but I couldn't risk moving him until I knew how severe his injuries.

    Mom ended up being fine (of course) and the kids had some serious injuries, but ended up being OK as well. I got off duty at 7PM that evening and spent the next several hours asleep in their hospital room. Mom ended up losing custody of the kids and they ended up with their grandparents. Last I heard, they were excelling.

    That and a death notification to a mother to tell her that her son had been murdered in a drug transaction. We arrive at the address to find the kids grandparents home who inform us that the mother is working nearby. We notify them and ask them to come with us to notify their daughter. We get there and she saw us standing there when she opened the door and went into immediate shock/denial. "Nope, not my son. You have the wrong person. He's fine, I know it. Come in and have some coffee". I wanted to vomit. I couldn't stop thinking about how my own mother would react.

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    I agree, stay in touch with him and make a difference in his life.

    People and animals are completely different issues. My first week on the street I spotted a puppy wandering through traffic. I pulled the puppy out of traffic with my partner. I gave her beef jerky. I waited for animal control. Hell, I waited so long that I even taught her to sit. I ended up adopting her from the pound 7 days later.
    Turned out my puppy was 9 months old. Evidence showed she had lived on the streets of the hood her whole life. Now, she has a good home and she is a spoiled and well trained dog.

    I'm not saying it's the same thing. I'm not saying adopt the kid. I'm just saying that you should use the resources at your disposal to help the kid. Just dont compromise yourself, your family, your career, or your finances over the bull**** his family could bring into your life.

    Good luck with it. I hope the kid finds some peace and positivity in his life to lead him down a successful path.

    My worst (i've been on the job for less than a year) was from an abuse case. The people who killed the 4 year old boy had fashioned tools to abuse him easily. In the boy's "room" there were mini baseball bats, strangulation objects, whipping objects. They actually had a first aid kit so they could treat the kid to make him last longer for their "enjoyment". No sexual abuse, only battery. They beat the kid. The kid puked and stopped breathing. They attempted cpr. Cpr failed and they called ems and said the kid had some sort of ridiculous accident. The only reason they performed cpr was because they wanted to look blameless. The idiots did the cpr for an adult on him, which they think finished the kid off. I still remember the signs of year of abuse on the kid's body. Mom and dad went to prison for drugs. They abused the kid. Kid went to aunt and uncle who didnt want the kid so they slowly killed him. The cigarette burns, bruises, rotting flesh from mistreated wounds, abnormally shaped skull and torso from who knows, and the gaunt little body haunts my nightmares.

    The effed up part is the kid looked like he was finally at peace while forensics was photographing him at the hospital.

    people are effed up. i admit I cry every time I think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac266 View Post

    6- Having to watch 20 seconds of child porn. 35 year-old dude and 2 year-old girl. You get the picture. I still have nightmares about it from time to time, and I'm not ashamed to admit it made me cry.
    We busted a guy who had been molesting kids for years and years. He had stacks of video tapes and we had a review them ALL...ugh it was a LONG 2.5 weeks (we had 3 guys watching 3 different TVs for 8-10hrs a day).

    another was watching a mother "say goodbye" to her son as the un-funeral home removed him from the house. Son had killed himself w/12ga (12 yr old kid) and mother was absolutely loosing it (as can be expected).
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    I've been around this kind of stuff and cried some unmanly tears. I can take anything (male bravado) except things that deal with kids around the ages of mine and younger. We as a PD try, if possible, to keep guys off of calls involving f'ed up things with kids around their kids' ages. "Try", unfortunately, only works some of the time.

    Mac266: Thankfully, I've never had to watch child porn as I would probably loose my mind. Thanks for doing so someone else wouldn't have to.

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    A baby who had died of SIDS. I'm in the hospital room with the parents, and their much older daughter walks in after having been called. The kid is lying dead on the table with all kinds of tubes coming out of him. The mom and daughter just look at each other. They're not saying anything, just staring at one another. They were literally too in shock to cry.

    Jesus man, that was tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac266 View Post
    5- A mother breastfeeding while driving drunk, crashed, chopped the top of her baby's head off with the bottom of the steering wheel. Mom lived.
    WOW.

    Mine was guarding a prisoner in the hospital who hours before broke into his ex-wife's home. He killed her, Then shot and killed both of their children, sleeping in their beds who were less than 4 years old. I guess the somewhat "positive" thing is , he attempted suicide at the scene but failed, so he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

    It was really hard to not slowly pull all of the tubes and IV's from the guy while he was comfortably watching TV in his hospital bed and Betching to the nurses about he needed more blankets and water.
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    Won't get into details, but mine was the homicide of a small child where I was first on scene. Father made a spontaneous statement that indicated involvement. Detained him in the unit and, after the scene was secure, transported him to the office for detectives to question him. He confessed and, though he's still awaiting trial, I feel confident he'll never see the sun again.

    The things that had been done to that child were horrible and I still get sick to my stomach if I think too hard about what he did to his own child.

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    -Unsuccessfully attempting CPR on a 2 yr old murder victim.

    -Death notification to parents that their daughter had committed suicide with gun, while victims (approx 5 y/o) daughter overheard in the adjoining room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJx2 View Post
    I can deal with just about anything..I have seen anything you can imagine through my medic/ER/military/LEO careers, but I answered a call a couple days ago that is really bothering me.

    It is a 11 year old kid..single mom parent is a homosexual drug addict, her girlfriends/wives/whatever make him watch porn and do who knows what else that he won't talk about. He acts out when he even sees a bikini on TV. Grandparents adopt him but live in a ****hole pay-by-week apartment. He gets bullied at school and is exposed to drug use/sales constantly (by said grandparents).

    The kid very intelligent and Lord knows has more street smarts than I ever had at that age. He says he has no friends, etc...

    I feel like he is falling through the cracks of society. I just can't stop thinking about the little kid and what I can do to help him avoid the in and out of jail path he is on. I have little to no faith in out child protective services.

    Have you ever had that call that sticks with you...what did you do to put it behind you or did you?
    I was on the opposite side of that call brother. I was that kid and a damn fine Officer named M. White kept in contact with me, and always checked in on me. He told me I didn't have to fall into the same pit as everyone else in my hood. He became a friend to me and a shining light. I become a cop 1 year ago at the age of 40 to play it forward for some one. I have my own special kid now I'm hoping to rehabilitate. I see something in him that I hope when time comes he chooses the correct path in the road. If you need help PM me and I will have a close friend contact you- He specifically works with kids just like your and mine. He is a great source of advice.

    He was a good man and if it were not for him who knows what I may have become.

    Far as that "call" none yet I know It can change any day.
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    Only been working about 2 years but a few months ago I stopped a male and female for violation of a ped. control device (weak I know) I simply asked for their ids and it went down hill from there. I am sure some if not most of you have seen it as it made national news the female started recording and I did not use force soon enough and allowed the situation to escalate more than it should of. The video is on youtube at last 10 minutes long. The kicker is which really bothers is me the male had a concealed firearm on his person which he could of easily retrieved during the altercation and the female recording had a unloaded firearm and ammo in her backpack. Extremely grateful that none of the other officers or I were hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac266 View Post
    Yep, kids. Here are a few of mine in no particular order:

    1- Babysitting a dead four month-old boy who happened to look just like my then-four-month old boy, waiting for the coroner for 3 hours. He had been shaken, then slammed onto a coffee table, then thrown against the wall, and then shaken some more.

    2- My friend being murdered in the line of duty. I remember every second of that night, and every radio transmission. I even remember what my LT's lunch smelled like when I went back to the office to write my report. I want to forget it all, but my brain won't let me.

    3- Telling a mother and father their child was dead unexpectedly.

    4- An old fat guy taking a swing at me, putting on a control hold with my PR-24, taking him to the ground, and smashing the bones in his face. Some people poo poo me for feeling bad about it because it was completely legit, but I didn't sign up to beat up old men. I'm allowed to let it bother me.

    5- A mother breastfeeding while driving drunk, crashed, chopped the top of her baby's head off with the bottom of the steering wheel. Mom lived.

    6- Having to watch 20 seconds of child porn. 35 year-old dude and 2 year-old girl. You get the picture. I still have nightmares about it from time to time, and I'm not ashamed to admit it made me cry.
    I'm very new at this, but I must say those are the most horrible things I have heard. anything with a baby is very sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrpulo View Post
    Only been working about 2 years but a few months ago I stopped a male and female for violation of a ped. control device (weak I know) I simply asked for their ids and it went down hill from there. I am sure some if not most of you have seen it as it made national news the female started recording and I did not use force soon enough and allowed the situation to escalate more than it should of. The video is on youtube at last 10 minutes long. The kicker is which really bothers is me the male had a concealed firearm on his person which he could of easily retrieved during the altercation and the female recording had a unloaded firearm and ammo in her backpack. Extremely grateful that none of the other officers or I were hurt.
    That sucks buddy. those videos are crappy. Not sure what to tell ya =/

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    I loved the video for court purposes lol. They pled after trying to get the stop/video thrown out which they were denied.

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