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    Ventura County Sheriffs

    Just thought this forum needed a thread of VCSD. I believe they are having a written, physical agility, and PHS interviews coming up. They also just had a class start in April. Would like to hear peoples progress in the application progress and I would like insight on the agency and the job from VCSD deputies. I grew up in Ventura and know that VCSD is the top dog in the county, they get respect anywhere they go.

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    Peacemaker,
    Are you sure they had a class in April? I just finally received a letter after almost 2 years of waiting that "The eligible list for Duputy Sheriff Trainee has expired on 6-19-2011" I don't know why i am getting this letter now.... I'm sure the dept made a mistake somehow because after i passed my background interview i contacted my bi a few months letter and got an email stating he went back to patrol and passed along his files to another bi. I'll call next week to get more info.

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    Positive. They had a new hiring phase last September for the academy that just started in April and in March they opened a new hiring phase for an academy that starts in October. Something definitely sounds screwed up with your stuff, you should call and see what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacemaker54 View Post
    I grew up in Ventura and know that VCSD is the top dog in the county, they get respect anywhere they go.
    Uh..yeah, ok. VCSD *thinks* they are the top dog in the county.
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    Who would you say is a more professional and well respected (statewide) local agency in Ventura County?

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    What do you want to know about the agency? I was a deputy there for a short period of time before lateraling elsewhere. Custody time right now is at least six years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacemaker54 View Post
    Who would you say is a more professional and well respected (statewide) local agency in Ventura County?
    It isn't a matter of being "professional" or "well respected." You didn't say that, you said "top dog." My argument is that there is no "top dog" in Ventura County. Each agency has their own pros and cons. Some are common knowledge and can be discussed here, others not so much and won't be.

    There's nothing wrong with VCSO. I personally would never go work there.

    Do you think they're "top dog" because of high speed stations like Moorpark, Thousand Oaks, and Camarillo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peacemaker54 View Post
    who would you say is a more professional and well respected (statewide) local agency in ventura county?
    v.c. D.a.i.'s
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    Quote Originally Posted by WPD954 View Post
    v.c. D.a.i.'s
    Yeah, I'll actually accept that one.
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    Oxnard PD deals with the most criminally active part of all of Ventura County... and from what I know Oxnard PD is a great agency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcMan84 View Post
    Oxnard PD deals with the most criminally active part of all of Ventura County... and from what I know Oxnard PD is a great agency.
    Oxnard PD has pros and cons. Pay is fine, and I would agree that it is the "most criminally active part of the county." However there is mass division between units. Patrol doesn't talk to Detectives, Traffic doesn't talk to Patrol, etc. It's much worse there than at other agencies I've seen.
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    I also agree about VCDA Investigators, but they are so small. VCSD is just the most professional agency I've come across in the county. They are also active everywhere in the county, including in Oxnard Ventura, SimI Valley as part of task forces etc. They take charge in checking on sex offenders and they are also the agency that does a lot of work with the Secret Service on child porn cases in the county, gang work with the FBI and Oxnard PD, and drugs obviously with the DEA. The US Marshals Pacific Southwest RFTF is also looking to expand into VC when the budget loosens up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacemaker54 View Post
    I also agree about VCDA Investigators, but they are so small. VCSD is just the most professional agency I've come across in the county. They are also active everywhere in the county, including in Oxnard Ventura, SimI Valley as part of task forces etc. They take charge in checking on sex offenders and they are also the agency that does a lot of work with the Secret Service on child porn cases in the county, gang work with the FBI and Oxnard PD, and drugs obviously with the DEA. The US Marshals Pacific Southwest RFTF is also looking to expand into VC when the budget loosens up.
    *sigh* I guess no other agency in the county does all that except for VCSD....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacemaker54 View Post
    I also agree about VCDA Investigators, but they are so small. VCSD is just the most professional agency I've come across in the county. They are also active everywhere in the county, including in Oxnard Ventura, SimI Valley as part of task forces etc. They take charge in checking on sex offenders and they are also the agency that does a lot of work with the Secret Service on child porn cases in the county, gang work with the FBI and Oxnard PD, and drugs obviously with the DEA. The US Marshals Pacific Southwest RFTF is also looking to expand into VC when the budget loosens up.
    So basically they are like any county sheriff's department. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.D.D Cop View Post
    So basically they are like any county sheriff's department. lol
    Yes....but we aren't talking about any county, we are talking about Ventura County...

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    Ok, I'm going to try to do this without being an *******.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacemaker54 View Post
    I also agree about VCDA Investigators, but they are so small. VCSD is just the most professional agency I've come across in the county.
    What makes them the most professional?

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    They are also active everywhere in the county, including in Oxnard Ventura, SimI Valley as part of task forces etc.
    I'm not sure which "task forces" you're talking about. There's VCAT and VENCAT.

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    They take charge in checking on sex offenders
    Not true. Sex offenders register with whatever agency has jurisdiction over their place of residence.

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    and they are also the agency that does a lot of work with the Secret Service on child porn cases in the county, gang work with the FBI and Oxnard PD, and drugs obviously with the DEA.
    No more than any other agencies. The High Tech Task Force is actually administered by state and local agencies, not VCSO.

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    The US Marshals Pacific Southwest RFTF is also looking to expand into VC when the budget loosens up.
    You're a VCSO cheerleader and you don't even work their yet, dude. I don't know how to explain that that mindset contribute to why other agencies have the opinion that Deputies that have been on 6 months in the jail have a cocky, know-it-all attitude. That's really neat to be excited, but you know not of what you speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blizz View Post
    Ok, I'm going to try to do this without being an *******.

    What makes them the most professional?

    I'm not sure which "task forces" you're talking about. There's VCAT and VENCAT.

    Not true. Sex offenders register with whatever agency has jurisdiction over their place of residence.

    No more than any other agencies. The High Tech Task Force is actually administered by state and local agencies, not VCSO.

    You're a VCSO cheerleader and you don't even work their yet, dude. I don't know how to explain that that mindset contribute to why other agencies have the opinion that Deputies that have been on 6 months in the jail have a cocky, know-it-all attitude. That's really neat to be excited, but you know not of what you speak.
    FIRST: I don't know everything, I'm not trying to act as if I do. I'm simply stating my opinions and I do understand that I have A LOT to learn and A LOT to do. But that doesn't mean I don't know anything.

    I said in my opinion they are the most professional and that is from my interactions with individuals from that department compared to other agencies around the county. I am allowed to hold my own opinion.

    A LE task force is any LE group made up of separate federal, state, and local agencies etc for a specific purpose. Yes, the two you named are ones I was thinking of. There is also the USSS's electronic crimes task force which they are the only Ventura county agency who is a member of it, hence why they do the most with the child porn stuff in the county. They are also, along with Oxnard pd, active in the FBI's operation safe streets groups that target gangs and organized criminal organizations. I havent heard about any other agencies working with the FBI in Ventura County on that stuff. The sheriffs are also the agency that responds with the coast guard and DHS:HSI when the panga boats pop up on county land.

    VCSO is the agency who conducts registration check sweeps on sex offenders living in the county. They are either doing it on their own unincorporated or contracted areas or assisting cities with their checks. Ventura County probation also assists in that as well as Marshals from the federal central district.

    The high tech task force isn't what I was talking about and I already stated (twice) that their child porn, as well as counterfeiting, ATM skimming, and credit card fraud cases, are often conducted in conjunction with the Secret Service office in Camarillo.

    Im not sure why you feel the need to be rude and discredit my statements and opinions when you have no clue my educational and professional experiences; not to mention my own personal extensive research of agencies, their duties, and other law enforcement topics.

    And, by the way, you failed at spewing out your comments without sounding like an a******

    I WILL END THS POST BY STATING WHAT I DID AT THE BEGINNING: I don't know everything, I'm not trying to act as if I do. I'm simply stating my opinions and I do understand that I have A LOT to learn and A LOT to do in this career field.

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    5 years experience...you must know it all after those 5 years since you feel the need to be rude...

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    You'll do great in law enforcement! When you're a rookie, if a partner with "only" 5 years of experience gives you advice or tells you you're messing up, tell him to pound sand. After all, 5 years of experience means nothing. Even though Blizz (who I and a few others on here know personally) has inside information on VC LE.

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    Not sure why you put quotations around only, seeing as I didn't write only. And I said nothing at all about individuals with 5 years experience knowing nothing, i just wrote that he/she must feel like they have enough experience to be rude. But in my opinion, no one can ever have enough experience, let alone have enough to be rude. I love how this forum is all about s*ittalking and bringing individuals down. I thought people on the job are supposed to be mentors to young bucks, not jerks.
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    We can be mentors, just don't come in here thinking one agency is superior to another. I have no doubt that VCSD is a great department. It's good to have pride in one's agency, but sometimes that leads to people looking down on other departments. If you get hired with VCSD, I hope you don't have that attitude towards allied agencies. If you're working in Fillmore and you get in some deep caca, you're gonna be very happy to see Santa Paula PD show up. When SHTF, it doesn't matter who your backup is.

    As far as task forces go, just about all the agencies in VC are involved in numerous task forces and offer special assignments, like Blizz said. Maybe I'm mistaken, but your posts make it sound like you think VCSD is God's gift to law enforcement (no one is), and that all others are second rate.

    Regarding us being "rude," this is just an Internet forum. If you think this is bad, this is nothing compared to the harrassment you'll get by the tac officers in academy, some FTO's, the snobby rich people, parolees, and the Colonia Chiques.

    Regardless, good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacemaker54 View Post
    Not sure why you put quotations around only, seeing as I didn't write only. And I said nothing at all about individuals with 5 years experience knowing nothing, i just wrote that he/she must feel like they have enough experience to be rude. But in my opinion, no one can ever have enough experience, let alone have enough to be rude. I love how this forum is all about s*ittalking and bringing individuals down. I thought people on the job are supposed to be mentors to young bucks, not jerks.
    It's actually getting closer to "only 8." It isn't a matter of being rude. As someone who has good internal knowledge of how VCSD works, reading your posts (where you're practically blowing Sheriff Dean and the organization.) I'm trying to help you.

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    Im not sure why you feel the need to be rude and discredit my statements and opinions when you have no clue my educational and professional experiences; not to mention my own personal extensive research of agencies, their duties, and other law enforcement topics.
    You know what guy? You can have whatever statements and have whatever opinions you want. You're right, I have no clue what your educational and professional experiences are. And I think it's really neat you've done your own extensive research. But I've spent close to 8 years actually IN VC law enforcement. So that probably trumps your extensive research.

    I can already tell you're going to be one of those booking deputies who would scoff at a PC Dec or booking charges. 6 years before you've even seen the inside of a patrol car....good luck.

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    We can be mentors, just don't come in here thinking one agency is superior to another. I have no doubt that VCSD is a great department. It's good to have pride in one's agency, but sometimes that leads to people looking down on other departments. If you get hired with VCSD, I hope you don't have that attitude towards allied agencies. If you're working in Fillmore and you get in some deep caca, you're gonna be very happy to see Santa Paula PD show up. When SHTF, it doesn't matter who your backup is.

    As far as task forces go, just about all the agencies in VC are involved in numerous task forces and offer special assignments, like Blizz said. Maybe I'm mistaken, but your posts make it sound like you think VCSD is God's gift to law enforcement (no one is), and that all others are second rate.

    Regarding us being "rude," this is just an Internet forum. If you think this is bad, this is nothing compared to the harrassment you'll get by the tac officers in academy, some FTO's, the snobby rich people, parolees, and the Colonia Chiques.

    Regardless, good luck to you.
    +1 friend. I don't think he realizes he offends members of neighboring agencies with his questionable comments.
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    I would like to apologize for coming off as though the rest of the agencies are garbage. I know that Ventura county agencies are all very good ad very professional, but through my experiences VCSO trumped the rest because I never had 1 bad experience. At the end of the day you are correct: green/tan, black, blue, state, local, federal, intergalactic , it doesn't matter cause it's all for the same team and same purpose. One thing for the forum: it is one thing to take grief and harassment from superiors or co-workers, ill-intent or not, but it's a completely different ball game taking garbage from individuals on a forum who don't knw you personally. At such a young age, I've earned respect from individuals with 15+ years in the business who have caught some of the most notorious fugitives this country has seen (DC Sniper being 1), so I must be doing something right. None the less, I am sorry for presenting myself in the wrong way and disrespecting other agencies.

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    I left the agency for much greener pastures. Everyone is different though. It sounds like you've made up your mind on where you want to work. Good luck in the process.

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    Peacemaker, your apology is appreciated. Good luck to you and don't limit yourself to one agency. If you end up getting hired somewhere else, you can always try to lateral to VCSD. It would probably suck going from patrol, to lateraling to another agency, only to work custody for 6 years. Custody is a good experience, but 6 years is just too much.

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