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    Leupold Mark 4 HAMR

    Pricey, but has anyone got to try one out yet?

    http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-s...4-4x24mm-hamr/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy8116 View Post
    The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times is because it is impossible to have two in.

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    OC is my last option. I've never met anyone immune to electricity or physics.

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    So there's one "no."

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    actually it's a yes

    not vastly different from the Trijicon ACOG with a mini reticle I have on a few of my rifles. "Feels" much similar with target acquisition going from range to close. Doesn't have as significant quality feel as an ACOG for some reason maybe because I've used Trijicon for years, I have Leupolds on a couple of my rifles including my Barrett and they have all preformed flawlessly. Guess it comes down to personal choice, it's hard to vastly improve on such a simple concept. Price is comparable as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy8116 View Post
    The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times is because it is impossible to have two in.

    Quote Originally Posted by CruiserClass View Post
    OC is my last option. I've never met anyone immune to electricity or physics.

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    Dot or Delta?

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    I've used one, and briefly considered one for 3 gun, but I have determined that a quality variable power optic is better for pretty much every circumstance other than on a super hard use combat gun. If you want 4x magnification, why not just go with a 1-4x24 from Nightforce, Leupold, Trijicon, etc? Also, the MRD on top of the optic is a total fail in my book, the MRD is just too high to maintain any sort of a cheek weld. The mount that comes with it is also pretty janky.
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    Pretty but whats the damage?
    This is for all you parents that like to put your kids names on the back of your mini-vans.

    STOP IT! There are predators that will use that information against them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitthegym View Post
    I've used one, and briefly considered one for 3 gun, but I have determined that a quality variable power optic is better for pretty much every circumstance other than on a super hard use combat gun. If you want 4x magnification, why not just go with a 1-4x24 from Nightforce, Leupold, Trijicon, etc? Also, the MRD on top of the optic is a total fail in my book, the MRD is just too high to maintain any sort of a cheek weld. The mount that comes with it is also pretty janky.
    It looked similar to the ACOG/RMR setup. I haven't handled them in person which is why I stopped here first. In reality, I'd like something that could work "in town" and double for out in the open magnification. Max distance would be 300 yards.

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    Pretty but whats the damage?
    Around $1100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Slaughter View Post
    It looked similar to the ACOG/RMR setup. I haven't handled them in person which is why I stopped here first. In reality, I'd like something that could work "in town" and double for out in the open magnification. Max distance would be 300 yards.
    It is very similar to the ACOG/RMR setup, but if I want a RDS as a secondary to a magnified optic, it is going to be running on an offset mount so that I can maintain my cheek weld and have a faster transition from my primary to secondary optic.

    For something that could work anywhere from close up - 300 yards, and cost under $1300, the Vortex Razor HD 1-4x24 is an awesome optic: http://swfa.com/Vortex-1-4x24-Razor-...pe-P44590.aspx .

    As is the Nightforce NXS 1-4x24 FC-2: http://www.amazon.com/NightForce-Rif.../dp/B0024OIXVS .

    Or the Trijicon Accupoint TR24 1-4x24 (I like the red triangle reticle): http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produc...3.php?pid=TR24

    All of these have great glass, generous eye relief, good illumination, and the ability to rapidly engage targets close in, and then quickly switch to 300+yard targets.
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    I'll have to check those out. How would they compare with something like an EoTech coupled with a magnifier?

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    I have never seen it, but I seriously wonder what the hell Leupold was thinking with that. The standard 4x ACOG has a 42mm objective. Leupold went with a 24mm objective. Goodbye light transmission.

    Look into the Leupold Mark6 1-6x CMR-W, if you can hold out a couple more months.
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    "How would they compare with something like an EoTech coupled with a magnifier?"

    An RDS backed by a magnifier is a compromise that allows for versatility and a common position/ cheek weld. They are popular with people anticipating more close-in than ranged work.

    A magnifier backed by an RDS requires something to move; the gun in the case of an offset RDS or the head in the case of a raised one. They are popular with people anticipating more ranged work than close-in work. The offset option is the better of the two, though how you set your rifle or carbine up has a lot to do with that.

    Variables beginning with true 1X magnification are the best answer, but their cost is beyond the reach of most. For example, the S&B Short Dot - the best of the breed. Variables beginning with 1.1X magnification are more affordable, but many have problems with the extra .1X magnification.

    Or something like that. I hope that helps.
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    Makes sense. And yes, the Short Dot is definitely cost prohibitive for a personal purchase.

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    Edited my previous post. Hopefully it makes more sense.

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