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    Are You Guys Salivating....

    Are you guys salivating like I am about the potential Supreme Court decision to rule President Obama's signature accomplishment ILLEGAL?! At a minimum, I'm sure individual mandate is TOAST.

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    Why do you think he put all those liberal judges in there? He salted the mine before selling it.
    I don't think we as a people have a chance unless we completely repeal it. Like that will ever happen.
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    When is the ruling expected?
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    Been kinda fun watching the lib punits squirm and burp and stutter and fart trying to dismiss the whole thing. Great entertainment.
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    Are you guys salivating like I am about the potential Supreme Court decision to rule President Obama's signature accomplishment ILLEGAL?! At a minimum, I'm sure individual mandate is TOAST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneAdam12 View Post
    Why do you think he put all those liberal judges in there? He salted the mine before selling it.
    I don't think we as a people have a chance unless we completely repeal it. Like that will ever happen.

    Read the paper more.... Hell, the LA Times, NY Times, and Wash Post are already crying its a done deal based on arugements.

    Its gone.....they are going to toss it all out ....toss in 5 dollar fuel by summer...high unemployment....crappy economy....and Mitt should ride things into the WH........

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    They are only hearing argument on the individual mandate. If the rest of the plan stays in effect and just the IM gets tossed, it'll be ugly. Plus I'm not counting on the Supremes to rule against it.

    Remember, this is basically the same people who ruled it was constitutional for your city to take your property so they give it to a private company who would build something the city wanted.
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    I predict a 5-4 ruling. I don't see a snowball chance of the individual mandate surviving and a very good chance of the entire law getting canned. One can only hope but come June we should know for sure.

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    The Affordable Care Act is a bipartisan plan and one that we think is constitutional,” Deputy White House press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Wednesday afternoon.

    He also referred to the individual mandate as the “individual responsibility” clause of the bill, in an attempt to distance the administration from the term individual mandate.

    “The administration remains confident that the Affordable Care Act is constitutional; one of the reasons for that is that the original personal responsibility clause . . . was a conservative idea,” he said.


    Wait... it was bipartisan? The newly named 'individual responsibility clause' which is what they renamed the mandate to make it sound more agreeable was a conservative idea?

    Exactly how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? Or maybe it's that in Obama's parallel universe, he and folks like of Pelosi, Reid, and those other hacks are conservatives.
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    The White House sure has a strange definition of bipartisanship. And even if it was a bipartisan effort it does not mean it will be constitutional.

    I wonder if this guy works in the White House also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FNA209 View Post
    They are only hearing argument on the individual mandate. If the rest of the plan stays in effect and just the IM gets tossed, it'll be ugly. Plus I'm not counting on the Supremes to rule against it.
    I understood that there was a clause so it could not be pieced out, all or nothing. Besides, it's 2,700+ pages and they aren't going to go through it. And how a contributing author gets to rule on it is beyond belief and shouldn't even be legal.

    The words progressive and judge don't belong together, it's a contradiction of terms.

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    Obama made some really good arguments against the individual mandate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FNA209 View Post
    The Affordable Care Act is a bipartisan plan and one that we think is constitutional,” Deputy White House press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Wednesday afternoon.

    He also referred to the individual mandate as the “individual responsibility” clause of the bill, in an attempt to distance the administration from the term individual mandate.

    “The administration remains confident that the Affordable Care Act is constitutional; one of the reasons for that is that the original personal responsibility clause . . . was a conservative idea,” he said.


    Wait... it was bipartisan? The newly named 'individual responsibility clause' which is what they renamed the mandate to make it sound more agreeable was a conservative idea?

    Exactly how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? Or maybe it's that in Obama's parallel universe, he and folks like of Pelosi, Reid, and those other hacks are conservatives.
    ZERO republicans voted for Obamacare. Remember? We were the "obstructionists". I still remember that famous, or should I say infamous, Pelosi quote, "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what's in it."

    The democrats are once again in la la land smoking those left handed cigarettes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FNA209 View Post
    The Affordable Care Act is a bipartisan plan and one that we think is constitutional,” Deputy White House press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Wednesday afternoon.

    He also referred to the individual mandate as the “individual responsibility” clause of the bill, in an attempt to distance the administration from the term individual mandate.

    “The administration remains confident that the Affordable Care Act is constitutional; one of the reasons for that is that the original personal responsibility clause . . . was a conservative idea,” he said.


    Wait... it was bipartisan? The newly named 'individual responsibility clause' which is what they renamed the mandate to make it sound more agreeable was a conservative idea?

    Exactly how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? Or maybe it's that in Obama's parallel universe, he and folks like of Pelosi, Reid, and those other hacks are conservatives.
    Since they got the idea from Mitt Romney, and BTW Newt Gingrich has long hailed the individual mandate as well, that's probably what they are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhoyt27 View Post
    Since they got the idea from Mitt Romney, and BTW Newt Gingrich has long hailed the individual mandate as well, that's probably what they are talking about.
    Newt favored a mandate for those making $50,000 a year and subsidies for lower income earners so it isn't quite the same thing but when was Massachusetts' version ruled unconstitutional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhoyt27 View Post
    Since they got the idea from Mitt Romney, and BTW Newt Gingrich has long hailed the individual mandate as well, that's probably what they are talking about.
    One major difference is Romneycare was approved by the people of Massachusetts while Obamacare was a closed door, partisan, bribe infested and majority opposed bill FORCED onto us.

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    It's also hard to compare the two since Obama's edict is 2,700 pages long and few people know what all is in it, including those who made it law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rifleguy View Post
    One major difference is Romneycare was approved by the people of Massachusetts while Obamacare was a closed door, partisan, bribe infested and majority opposed bill FORCED onto us.
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    Supremes not taking Obama's crap.


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    On Monday, former Constitutional law prof and now President Obama, laid into the Supreme Court for even thinking about declaring ObamaCare unconstitutional — either in part or in total — saying he was “confident” the Court would not “take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress.”

    CBS News reports:

    Overturning a law of course would not be unprecedented — since the Supreme Court since 1803 has asserted the power to strike down laws it interprets as unconstitutional.

    And, in the escalating battle between the administration and the judiciary, a federal appeals court apparently is calling the president’s bluff — ordering the Justice Department to answer by Thursday whether the Obama Administration believes that the courts have the right to strike down a federal law, according to a lawyer who was in the courtroom.

    An Appeals Court Judge asked a DOJ lawyer if she agreed that the judiciary could strike down an unconstitutional law.

    The DOJ lawyer answered yes — and mentioned Marbury v. Madison, the landmark case that firmly established the principle of judicial review more than 200 years ago.

    Now the part that I like.

    The panel ordered the Justice Department to submit a three-page, single-spaced letter by noon Thursday addressing whether the Executive Branch believes courts have such power.

    That’s a big difference between academia and the courts … I always ask my students to double-space their homework.
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