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    'Pitbull-type' dog mauls five police officers in London

    Five police officers have been hospitalisedon Thursday after being mauled by a dog when they raided a house in east London. Police marksmen later shot dead the animal.

    One officer needs skin grafts to his body and three others are understood to be in a serious condition after the "pitbull-type" animal went berserk as its owner was arrested. All five constables were taken to hospital with leg and hand wounds as chaos ensued during a morning swoop in Albert Square, Newham.

    A dog unit and firearms unit were called to deal with the animal while bloodied officers arrested the suspect, in his 20s, for grievous bodily harm and kidnapping.

    Oliur Rahman, 28, who was staying at his girlfriend's house on Albert Square, said officers fired at least two shots before the animal was killed. "I was asleep, and I woke up because there was **** loads of screaming. I put my head out of the window. I saw police officers smacking something that was on the floor."

    Rahman, who said that the attack took place at about 10.15am, said officers used a battering ram and batons to beat the dog down. "The dog actually managed to get hold of the police officer and the officer was screaming in agony … The dog was on his hand, biting down."

    Rahman, who filmed the attack on his phone, added: "The dog grabbed him so hard that the officer had no luck really." He said he could see officers jumping on cars and over gates to get away. "They didn't know what to do," he said.

    "The officers then came with guns and that's when they shot the dog. There were seven or eight of them; they were trying to hold the dog down. Even then they couldn't hold it down." He said the dog died after "two or three shots".

    Four of the officers were said to be in a serious but stable condition and are being assessed for whether they have suffered lasting tendon and muscle damage. The remaining Pcofficer suffered minor injuries.

    Dog-bite incidents in the UK have risen 79% in London and 43% nationally in recent years, according to figures obtained by the Kennel Club.

    The incident has already led to nearby residents raising concerns over dangerous dogs, and is likely to reignite debate on the issue. The dog is thought to have been responsible for another attack on a passer-by last year. It is thought that officers were sent to investigate reports that the same dog had bitten a man in April last year but no arrests were made.

    Commander Stephen Watson, commander for north-east London, said: "This allegation was not picked up in the intelligence assessment prior to today's operation, and this now forms part of my review of today's events."

    Newham council said it launched an investigation last year after a complaint that a dog had bitten a cyclist in the square in April 2011. Animal welfare officers visited the property on 6 May, but there was no response and no further action was taken after discussions with police.

    One neighbour, David Clarke, said he had previously reported the dog to the council for attacking another dog. The 72-year-old said: "That was a dangerous dog. I informed the council about it, which is why the fencing was put up. It has already attacked another dog. The owner never had it on a muzzle or a lead, but he did after the previous attack. He didn't take it out a lot.

    "I think people shouldn't have those dogs. They should be completely banned."

    Police said the raid was part of Operation Big Wing, a major Scotland Yard purge on suspects across the capital. The 48-hour operation saw hundreds of officers carry out searches for people wanted by police or who had failed to appear at court.

    Commander Stephen Watson said the officers came under "sustained attack".

    "All five were hospitalised. Of the five, two might be described as walking wounded whereas three sustained serious injuries which will necessitate further medical intervention," he said.

    "I think what our officers have confronted is the bravery that they very often display in protecting Londoners on a daily basis.

    "One man is in custody, inquiries continue, but the person was arrested in line with the original purposes of the inquiries and subsequently with offences concerning the Dangerous Dogs Act."

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    I bet they wish they carried guns.....

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    Im sorry I'll chime in here, "I bet they wish they carried guns....." Before you in any way make such trite comments walk in their shoes for 5 minutes. I'll take away your pistol, shotgun or carbine, then let you do their role for a day, you probably wouldn't. I'm not calling you a coward, far from it. But its a different and more dangerous environment due to not being armed over there. I did it and I wouldn't do it again.
    I'm snappy as I worked that area, and knew many of the officers there. These guys are scarred for life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastside View Post
    Im sorry I'll chime in here, "I bet they wish they carried guns....." Before you in any way make such trite comments walk in their shoes for 5 minutes. I'll take away your pistol, shotgun or carbine, then let you do their role for a day, you probably wouldn't. I'm not calling you a coward, far from it. But its a different and more dangerous environment due to not being armed over there. I did it and I wouldn't do it again.
    I'm snappy as I worked that area, and knew many of the officers there. These guys are scarred for life.
    Don't get your panties in a bunch over a comment made on the internet. I wasn't making fun of the police officers from England when I said I bet they wish they carried guns. I was being serious. One of my coworkers was a constable in London before he came to the US. He said the same thing. Obviously if given the choice between working in an environment when I have a fighting chance against someone with a gun, I'll choose to be armed any day of the week and twice on Sunday. And before you get into a ****ing match with me about where its more dangerous to work, you might want to know where I work before making that claim.

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    And we're done here really aren't we fella. You've raised your point, I've raised mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amw315 View Post
    I bet they wish they carried guns.....
    even firearms officers have been attacked by dogs and have been unable to shoot the dog, its quite hard to draw a weapon when a dogs bitten your hand so badly you could lose it or snapped both bones in your arm with the force of its jaws

    from what I'm hearing these could be life altering injuries such as loss of fingers, in my previous job I used to work quite closely with the borough dog warden (also unarmed) some of these dogs are apparently trained to attack on the sight of a police uniform
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    There was a dog attacking a PO here and he'd already shot it several times with his 9 mm and it was still going strong. One of the old school guys walked up with his 357. and drilled it and it dropped dead instantly. Afterward the examiner found 9 mm rounds that had flattened out on the dog's skull. The 357. round had blasted on through. What is the right weapon depends on the situation.
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    I'll ask my mate on firearms but shotguns are used for humane destruction here I think loaded with rifled slugs
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    Nobody had pepper spray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasperST View Post
    Nobody had pepper spray?
    Spray and batons were apparently ineffective
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    Most of the time pepper spray works well enough to dissuade aggressive dogs but sometimes it won't stop a full-on attack.

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    Jenny Jones, 'Green Party' Member of Parliament (politician) and member of the Metropolitan Police Authority (who oversees the Met Police) response was to say 'what an expensive way of dealing with the situation - using rounds to kill the dog' - and why didn't they just use Taser?

    Err, well Jenny, you have repeatedly used your position oin the MPA to vociferously denounce Taser, hence why none of the officers on-scene had one and had to wait for armed backup while they were getting mauled.

    Not to mention that Taser cartridges (even if the Met WERE allowed them) are much, much more expensive than 9mm rounds.

    You may understand, when I say, that she thisd particular dolt is not well-liked by UK officers.

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    Jenny Jones is a hippy throwback who'd be better off spending her days platting lentils or some other commune based c*ap

    Her comments on the riots were at best ill informed and at worst more evidence if needed of her hate for the police
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    Jenny Jones supposes that 1 slug costs more than 2 wires? What a twit. Let her go work in her neighbors' allotments on the village commons and stay off the telly if she's really so cost-conscious for the public. I'll buy the local constabulary another box of slugs. I'll hook her up up with some people in her area who will take dead dogs away at no charge.

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    JJ is a member of the green party, she just about manages to contain her disgust for the police, she is the primary reason why frontline officers don't carry Taser

    this is her in action http://youtu.be/L6sOxdNJW4c
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    Arm them. Arm them. Arm them. Arm them. Arm them. Arm them. Arm them. Arm them. How many incidents will it take for them to realize their police officers need to be ARMED?

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19097338

    Horrible to read, lovely to see the local trolls stood there with their Iphones filming it. Course last time we talked about this, some chap was all butch and decided to tell me not to get my ladies undergarments in a twist when i was a mite annoyed someone chimed in about guns in the Uk. In reading this report this made every decision to immigrate the right one, how awful for the officers, how bloody awful. Policing over there will never be armed due to the idiotic politicians over there. No one will ever ever made that decision without a disaster happening such as a mass massacre of officers or the destruction of a station.
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    never is a long time, wait till after the running & jumping this summer and see what changes might be in the pipeline
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    Nice one trojan i stand corrected, interesting to see....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastside View Post
    Nice one trojan i stand corrected, interesting to see....
    just something I was told on another forum but could be intresting, they're also looking to massively increase roll-out of TASER to all cars
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    Ive had that exact thing happen to me. The drug dealers tend to not only fight their pitbulls for side money but they use them to sick on five O. A local thug sicked his pit bull on me after we chased down and arrested one of his homeboys. I was lucky enough to escape a full bite but my pants were ripped and before he could advance further I gave him six to eight rapid burst of 40sw. The only thing I regret was not following up on charging the owner but he got his when the fed's locked him away for twenty on drug charges. I hate killing a dog but sometimes you have to just accept getting bit is not an option.
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