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    Fitness Test - Pass/Fail type

    Hi everyone,

    I'm wondering how many of you may have failed your initial fitness test when you began applying to the police department? Today I had my physical test. The sit ups and push ups were harder than I had practiced with more stringent requirements. I was near 80% for my push ups but my sit ups were not as strong and I missed the number by 3 completions.

    Out of the six people, five of us missed it on sit ups. After the run and the six foot awl climb, which I had no issue with, they gave us another chance to complete sit ups if we thought we could do it. I'm in my 40s, so the younger guys jumped at the chance, as did I. They didn't get anywhere close to the required number. I missed it too but I missed by 4 that time. Lots of frustration on my part and had I slacked off a little on the run, I might have had more energy to get those extra four.

    I knew I had not passed the sit up part and expected to come back another day. So I was pushing myself as hard as possible to be sure I could get past everything and as I was doing the run, the guy who started off in a full sprint was the guy I chased down. I nearly caught him by the time we were at 1.5 miles. I wouldn't have it any other way. And the training officer said he had failed 2 times before he was successful.

    I'm already rescheduled for next week and I'm back to practicing over and over again. But I'm curious if anyone else has gone through this challenge.

    Thanks!

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    People fail all the time. Prepare better and try again.

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    Not uncommon for people to come up just short. Most departments hand out info on the minimum requirements to pass PT, and that's what people train to meet, the minimum. Now that you know what they're looking for, aim for beyond the minimum and you'll be set. Good luck on your next test.
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    I just really started testing and only tested 3 times so far but i passed the fitness test every time, and iv'e seen people fail it really comes down to pushing yourself don't just train to pass train to be over the the standard so you wont need to worry about the test.

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    Ater retiring, I just started processing for another police job just because I am bored and want something to do again. Yeah, call me crazy. The standards were posted and you knew what to expect well before the test date. I practiced and prepared for it knowing my competition would be 20+ years younger than me. Except for the run, I kicked their butts in almost everything and was floored when 1/2 the candidates failed. One guy even was reeking of marijuana like he just toked up in his car before coming in.

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    I'm expecting to test in June, or thereabouts. I got busy early on, and was shocked to discover how really out of shape I was; I've been training hard nearly every day for a month now, with the goal of completely exceeding the requirements.

    Really, I'm just in max training mode so when the academy starts in the fall or winter, I'll not have to struggle with PT. Just trying to be proactive, learning the other skills will be vexing enough without dreading huff-and-puff on top of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CR-Retired View Post
    One guy even was reeking of marijuana like he just toked up in his car before coming in.
    Just, wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will23 View Post
    ...train to be over the the standard so you wont need to worry about the test.
    This could apply just about anywhere in life, really.

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    I'm over 50. I've taken and passed and failed PATs.... I failed the first two, because I didn't have a good training strategy and didn't train as well as I should have.

    But I learned.

    I learned:
    #1 Never train to the minimum. I recommend over-training a little bit, but at my age I've gotta be sure I don't get an injury while I'm training.... So I don't go "all out"... But I do train hard.
    #2 Pass/Fail is largely a mind set... While you train your body, don't forget to train your mind. Mental training for a physical event is just as important as the PT.
    #3 Never let "them" tell you what you can do... This is part of the mental training. When I announced I was going to apply for a police job all I heard was "You're too old".... Tune the nay-sayers out.

    Yes, I passed. And yes, I am going to run another PAT this Friday... Trying to move up on the job and it's a part of the process....

    Good luck to you who work it... And good luck to me!
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    I have a PAT coming up, I can do the push-ups and sit-ups (most of the time) but im concerned about the 1.5 mile run. Any tips on improving stamina? Or just keep trying to lower my time on a 1.5 mile non stop run? Also, Its for a slightly larger dept, everyone who passed the exam is taking the test, If i do fail the PAT will I get another shot at it? or am I just out of luck until another 4 years when they administer another exam?

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    Do running speed workouts. This will help you get faster. I do alot of weight lifting so I am a big heavy guy, but I found doing the speed workouts made my run times get quicker. Google it and there are a ton of workouts that should work for you. I am off to the academy 01 Aug, so I am doing them as well.

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    I've only done 1 PAT in my history. The current job I have didn't really require one. The PAT test I did take wasn't all that hard either. It was more or less just a 400 yard obstacle course you had to complete in 4 minutes with a 150 lbs dummy at the end you had to drag.

    Obviously this was not very difficult for most candidates. Out of 40 people only 3 people failed...although one older lady managed to get past the 4 foot window, 6 ft wall, through 400 yards of jumps and climbing, only to drag that dummy 95% of the way and then...laid down on the freaking dummy saying "I can't do it"....4 feet from the finish with 1 minute to go. People were cheering her on and she finally managed to summon the strength to pull it another 4 feet. Didn't exactly make me feel good about possibly working for someone who would quit dragging my bloody dying body to cover and give up so easily.

    As others have said "over train". Not only that...just train yourself every day to have good health. I'm not a hulking beast monster. I just lift weights because I used to be very skinny and kind of weak and I wanted to change that. I don't train to beat tests, I train to be better and because this might help me survive in this line of work. I love to train. Going in with the right attitude is what it's all about. That said, I suck at running and I'll be damned if that'll ever change.

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    Thanks for the advice. I just ran a 10 minute mile, making progress but still have a lot to go. So does anyone know if failing the PAT the first time around end your chances for that dept until another test comes around? or is it common for them to give you a re-test a little down the road? Or is every dept different?

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    I failed my first time doing a physical. Had a long jump (like 6 feet) I had rolled my ankle in the tires I had to jump through. I just took it again 3 weeks later and passed not a big deal at all just try again

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    Thats interesting, in the PAT test Im going to have to take you have to do 38 sit-ups in 1 min, 29 push-ups in 1 min, and a 1.5 mile run in 12:38. I think I think I would much prefer doing an obstacle course, mainly because im dreading this 1.5 mile run. I have flat feet and im getting a really bad case of runners knee in BOTH of my knees. Has anyone had this issue and if so were you able to overcome it, or figure out a way to lessen the issue?

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    Do people actually fail these???

    Currently run my 1.5 in 9:50
    about 50 pushups in 1 minute and 55 situps in 1 minute. So is there something that they are not alluding too? Or is it that most of the people fail are civilians who typically dont perform physical fitness tests (not an insult just average fact).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyK9 View Post
    Do people actually fail these???

    Currently run my 1.5 in 9:50
    about 50 pushups in 1 minute and 55 situps in 1 minute. So is there something that they are not alluding too? Or is it that most of the people fail are civilians who typically dont perform physical fitness tests (not an insult just average fact).
    There are a lot of answers to this based on how many different ways people choose to live, exercise and eat. I personally feel that it's very easy to get caught up in the typical "feel" of how we work out or exercise and once in that cruise control state we tend to not push ourselves beyond that. There are so many people who are not naturally fit anymore and when you combine that with anything out of the "norm" for their body weight, daily lifestyle, cruise control, etc... these tests can become difficult. These times and numbers typically take a lot of time to reach and/or maintain and funny enough many of us feel we can just put it together in a month or so. o.0

    Example: my son is 14 and he can run the mile in about 6 minutes and he's never been a runner but if he doesn't maintain that as he grows older then chances are he'll lose that pretty quick.

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    Within a month ? WoW. This is true. I have had a regular workout regime for the last 11 years of active duty, so I see how it for myself is the norm. Will be intresting to transition back to civlian life.

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    For anyone viewing this thread. I would highly encourage crossfit.com, P90x, Insanity, or any type of circuit training. Build up your run distances to about 3 miles, then focus on decreasing your times. Good luck to everyone!

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    Well Navy, im assuming your IN the navy lol, so I can see why it would be easy for you, I am a civilian, and although im fairly active, I have lost a lot of my endurance since high school, where I used to wrestle and could easily run 5 miles just to warm up before practice. Now the biggest thing holding me back is this severe pain im getting in my knees from running, even though im running on a soft track. I googled it, it seems I have runners knee(s) due to my flat feet, it suggests I get good running shoes and some good insoles for people with flat feet, im going to do this and go to the doctor to see if there is anything else I can do, hopefully I will be able to correct this problem and start training hard and prepare myself for this, otherwise, if i can not overcome this, then I guess I will not be able to become a cop which is very disappointing, especially since my plan, if I didnt get on anywhere soon enough after college was to possibly join the Navy, but if my knee problems are not corrected, then that seems out of the option as well. I honestly will have no idea what I will do with my life...
    I was thinking about bike riding a lot to try and build up endurance without hurting my knees, then Id be able to pass the PAT, but I dont see how I could pass the academy if I can not keep up constant running without pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grenster88 View Post
    Most departments hand out info on the minimum requirements to pass PT, and that's what people train to meet, the minimum.
    Even though they know the minimum standard, they show up unprepared. They practice the run on treadmills and their other events in an air-conditioned gym. The fitness thing is something that needs to be maintained throughout the entire law enforcement career. Many agencies don't have an annual physical fitness test, so when the officer graduates academy, he becomes complacent.


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    Are you allowed to wear whatever kind of sneakers you want in the academy? (since I was doing a little research and there is a special kind of shoe that should help somewhat with the knee problems im experiencing while running)

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    I have a feeling as long as your shoes don't have wheels on them, you'll be allowed to wear whatever you like.
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    They practice the run on treadmills and their other events in an air-conditioned gym.
    This is very true. No substitute for running outdoors or on a indoor track, or doing pushups and situps in 95 degree + weather.
    R.I.P. #2083, You will never be forgotten.

    Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. Matt. 5:9

    Inmates seem really into counting the number of officers it took to take them down. If only their love of math had blossomed earlier.

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