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    USCG - Direct Entry Petty Officer Training Course (DEPOT.)

    Just wondering if anyone has any additional information about this program. I currently have 3.5 years as a certified LEO. Does anyone have any advice or tips? I was looking into their Investigator position and it seems pretty attractive. I also read online that most LEO's get put into the Port Security program. Do they deploy a lot or is it voluntary?

    Do you guys know what rate LEO's typically start?

    Basically any advice about this program would be great... Thanks

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    My section just picked up a guy fresh from DEPOT(prior service USAF) last week. I don't know anything about the investigator rate, other than I believe you are assigned to a Coast Guard Investigative Service unit. Being an LEO and automatically being placed into a port security program is not accurate. My section leader is a long time LEO, and a Senior Chief Boatswains Mate. Along with a former section leader being a firefighter, and a Chief Machinery Technician.

    Only certain units like the Port Security Units, and Maritime Safety and Security teams deploy as part of the Deployable Operations Group(DOG). The PSUs I am familiar with deploys once every few years, for 12 months. If you are stationed at a small boat station, or other typical units, your deployments are usually voluntary.

    An LEO can be in any rate they choose, as long as it is available at the unit they will be stationed at. You are not restricted from anything, except aviation.

    Here is some basic info about the D.E.P.O.T.
    http://www.uscg.mil/hq/capemay/Train...EPOTschool.asp
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    Thanks for the info! Very much appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by kxl77 View Post
    Just wondering if anyone has any additional information about this program. I currently have 3.5 years as a certified LEO. Does anyone have any advice or tips? I was looking into their Investigator position and it seems pretty attractive. I also read online that most LEO's get put into the Port Security program. Do they deploy a lot or is it voluntary?

    Do you guys know what rate LEO's typically start?

    Basically any advice about this program would be great... Thanks
    I would recommend looking in to going BM or MK. You will do law enforcement at a small boat station. The reserve ME's from what I have seen focus more force protection (at a PSU). And you can always volunteer to join a PSU for a deployment from your current unit.
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    The rate of Investigator (IV), is difficult to get in to. There are plenty of guys who are local officers, federal officers, even criminal investigators who do not get in to the job right away. There are still people at my old unit who came in thinking they could get in to CGIS right away...they're still at my old unit.

    You do not necessarily have to go right to a PSU. I know a few guys who were at a sector, or at a small boat station, that came in as a ME. Do Port Security Units have a lot of LEO's? Sure. Oregon was right though, you do not have to come in to the CG as an ME. Anyone can do LE, but if you want to learn a new skill set, that's where picking another rate comes in to play. Learning to drive a boat, learning to become a mechanic or electrician may be another skill set you want to obtain, just something to think about.

    I will say this, if you come in to the CG reserve, it is possible that if a PSU does not meet its numbers for deployment, you could be selected and directed to deploy. It's the military.

    Deployments vary with PSUs. I've deployed twice, the first was a 6 month deployment (total 8 months with a one month ramp up and one month de-mob). The other was about 2 months. It honestly depends on the mission. I know a few guys who have deployed for up to a year, and a lot of the missions the CG had overseas are changing.

    If you are at a PSU, ME's (attached to shore side security) will be doing Force Protection, and other traditional duties similar to the Army and Marine Corps. ME's can also be attached to the waterborne division (since the Rating Force Master Chief wants ME's to be more diverse).

    You also have to think, being a reservist, you have other things to take care of to be "mission ready". For example, you will go to the range twice a year (that's already 2 months out of 12), you have a PT test twice a year (another 2 months out of the year). You also have Mandated Training that is required, some are easily done in the classroom, others are required to be administered in a classroom like sexual assault and suicide prevention (could be another month of your drills). Just right there 5 or 6 of the months of the year are already done. Plus, if you aren't qualified, don't expect to do anything operational right away. During your two weeks of active duty training, there are also other things you will be taking care of, like Physical Health Assessments, and Dental Exams. If you need to re-qual on your BTM or BO cert, DT and other types of LE training could be done. Which takes time out of actually conducting boardings. You will not be conducting boardings at a PSU...ever, no matter what anyone tells you, the mission at a PSU is not LE.

    I am an ME that was attached to shore side security. I'm not a police officer, but I work with police officers that are on Title 10 with me. I've also been through Firearms Instructor School (which is something you could obtain), and am now on active duty as an instructor at a training center.

    One last thing. Some people say it doesn't matter, but I will say, you get extra money at a PSU for drills than at a station or sector. I do know that I make more as a drilling reservist at a PSU than in the "blue guard". You get $30/drill extra for special duty pay, 4 drills for 2 days, so an extra $120 a weekend, plus normal drill pay, you can drill more than just two days a weekend, you get up to 60 drills a year (traditional reservists only get 48), and you get your normal 2 weeks of ADT. So that extra money does help if you need it.
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    Wow - That's one informative post. Thanks! I'm interested in the DEPOT program; what jobs do you think are open for me? I would think that they would stick me with something law enforcement oriented (Not that I mind). Isn't the point of the program to use your civilian profession in a military capacity?

    Also, what is the difference between ME and PSU? Is something like Health Services or Intelligence attainable without those specific set of skills?

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    You're right, the CG is all about using your civilian skill sets and bringing them in to the CG. There is nothing wrong with LE in the CG. I'm just saying, if you wanted to use the reserves as an opportunity to learn something new, this would be the time. I can't decide for you what job you choose. Look at the website, and if you have a question about a specific rate, let me know and I'll try to answer it.

    Yes, health services or intelligence specialists are attainable, but if your civilian job doesn't give you the prior knowledge, you will have to attend "A school" (example, if you're a paramedic in your civilian job, becoming a HS is very possible without going to A school, or if your civilian job is an intelligence analyst, it's possible that way too).

    ME is a rate, PSU stands for Port Security Unit, a type of CG reserve unit.

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    I had spoken to a colleague of mine and it seemed as if he were almost against the idea of the DEPOT program since you're essentially skipping years of service to start at a supervisory rank. If you don't mind me asking, what is your take on that?

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    Goes both ways. I know some who come in as an E-5 or E-6 because of prior service or even experience like law enforcement. I also know people who came in because they have a degree, maturity, etc but come in as a non-rate and must successfully complete A school. It all just depends. Nothing is guaranteed.

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