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    Failed background check.

    Today I received the news that I failed my background investigation. I had applied to 10 stations in the past 11 months, scoring typically between 8th-10th on their lists. With this town I scored first overall, and it was the first time I had taken the BI. I met with the Officer and we went over my background. The negatives that came out during the background were as follow:

    Drink about 3 times every two weeks.
    Was let go after my fourth year of being a teacher due to an alleged failure to motivate students and vary teaching instruction methods
    Light gambling on football and play poker once a month
    3 speeding tickets in my life (all court supervision and removed from my record) + expired registration + 1 seatbelt. None of these tickets are from during the last year.
    Tried 1 Viagra pill 3 years ago (and I don't have a prescription).

    I'm 26, graduated with my bachelor degree with honors, have good credit, and have never had any run-ins with the law. They never followed up my interview with any calling of references. Considering it took me a full year to get to my first Background Investigation, i'm pretty bummed about not getting in. They didn't list any specific reasons for me no longer being a candidate. I'd like to be a cop... is there something in my history that should be preventing me from ever passing this section?

    Thanks

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    Sounds like u had a run in with the law for those speeding tickets...Anyway, I have been DQ'd once before myself. dust yourself of and reapply somewhere else if it's what you really want. But the question I wanna know is trying viagra at 26? I was locked and loaded all day long at that age

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    This is just a case of not really wanting you and wanting somebody else. You scored 1st on the eligibility list so they had to fail you for something or else they would be forced to give you the job. This is nepotism at its finest. Wait until you see who gets hired and compare backgrounds. Good luck buddy and you will stick somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCC141 View Post
    Today I received the news that I failed my background investigation. I had applied to 10 stations in the past 11 months, scoring typically between 8th-10th on their lists. With this town I scored first overall, and it was the first time I had taken the BI. I met with the Officer and we went over my background. The negatives that came out during the background were as follow:

    Drink about 3 times every two weeks.
    Was let go after my fourth year of being a teacher due to an alleged failure to motivate students and vary teaching instruction methods
    Light gambling on football and play poker once a month
    3 speeding tickets in my life (all court supervision and removed from my record) + expired registration + 1 seatbelt. None of these tickets are from during the last year.
    Tried 1 Viagra pill 3 years ago (and I don't have a prescription).


    I'm 26, graduated with my bachelor degree with honors, have good credit, and have never had any run-ins with the law. They never followed up my interview with any calling of references. Considering it took me a full year to get to my first Background Investigation, i'm pretty bummed about not getting in. They didn't list any specific reasons for me no longer being a candidate. Yes they did .........see the section in red above

    I'd like to be a cop... is there something in my history that should be preventing me from ever passing this section?

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    First of all as you found out the citations were not removed for purposes of a BI.
    Being terminated in a prior job is never good when seeking another job.
    Using a prescription drug without a prescription..... is troublesome--------and you did it as an adult.

    I don't see any permanent disqualifiers.................but there are most likely going to be many qualified applicants that just don't have those highlighted problems.

    They didn't call any references because you didn't pass on to that level of the hiring process.........


    Keep trying ...............but it will probably be a while .............you really need to score higher consistantly.
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    You are 26 years old and tried Viagra at the age of 23 - presumably after you graduated from college. That act, in and of itself shows immaturity. A willingness to experiment with a Rx drug or an illicit drug shows a great lack of self restraint. The fact that you received three tickets for speeding show immaturity and an unwillingness to comply with the law as it stands. Losing a job after a concrete four years of solid employment for the reasons you gave may be interpreted as an unwillingness to comply with written directives and being a team player.

    All-in-all, it sounds like you need to gain some additional experience and become more mature. Sorry if it hurts, but you asked and the above is my take on your issues. I would recommend you work on personal growth, become a team player, modify your personality to show that your past issues are just that, past issues. Good luck and don't give up.
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    No run ins with the law? What are the citations you mentioned? In a police Background Investigation there is no such thing as an expungement or a sealed record. All are readily accessed by Background Investigators. As has been mentioned, your use of a prescription drug absent a prescription demonstrates a distinct lack of good judgment. Being discharged from your job under the circumstances you noted will be a major negative as well. You should keep in mind, and I remind applicants of this continously, that the current LE applicant is chock full of high quality applicants. Many are Officers furloughed or laid off due to the still crappy economy. The others include Armed Forces members with combat experience, college graduates, and others who simply don't bring your issues to the table. These are the people with whom you'll be competing for a relatively small amount of jobs. It's going to take you some time, by that I mean at least five years, of steady employment, and violation free driving, in order to emerge as an even halfway viable candidate.

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    The failure to motivate students is troubling to me. Must be more to it. Viagra? But why? Not a huge deal to me but I would question....why oh why......

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    To follow up, thanks for all the responses. They are all insightful for someone who is new to the process. I will keep testing and trying, but failing this section certainly knocks one down a peg or two.

    The Viagra was simply a case of immaturity and curiosity. I worked with someone in their 50's who talked about using it, so he lent me one when I asked him.

    The failure to motivate students was a long complicated case where I had 3 different principals in 4 years. I received great marks my first and second year of teaching from two different principals. The third principal was a former P.E. teacher (I also taught P.E.) and he didn't feel the same as the first two principals. It was 5th and 6th grade and I had multiple periods where I had over 100 kids in the gym to teach by myself, so what I & and the first two principals felt was possible and the best way to teach the class was not what my last boss did. My boss before letting me go offered me the chance to resign but with a shortage of P.E. jobs out there, I decided to decline that option because it would prevent me from obtaining unemployment. I also coached wrestling (high success), and there was a 3rd year teacher who coached basketball.. being my tenure year, they had to come up with reasons if they wanted to keep the basketball coach over the more experienced teacher... the school was going through budget cuts.

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    *high five* to popping a viagra pill. Yea you made a mistake by Law Enforcement standards, however, you should be ok with the majority of agencies. Just keep your nose clean from here on out and slow down in your vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigcopper View Post
    The failure to motivate students is troubling to me. Must be more to it. Viagra? But why? Not a huge deal to me but I would question....why oh why......
    I wondered that too......23 y/o not being able to stand at attention, that's just sad.

    I agree with my colleague above, Nepotism is a possible reason. Just keep applying.
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    Keep plugging away, someone will pick you up eventually. Sometimes it takes a while.

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    There's something you mentioned that no one else has touched on. You said "Light gambling on football."

    Were you placing bets with a bookie? If so, I can see that as an instant DQ,
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    ^^^ Valid point. Was the gambling legal or illegal?

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    My colleague has touched on a very good point. He usually does. I certainly don't expect you to divulge the type gambling you participate in on an open forum, but if involves any violation of Federal or state law, yes, that could be a major problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipCal View Post
    My colleague has touched on a very good point. He usually does. I certainly don't expect you to divulge the type gambling you participate in on an open forum, but if involves any violation of Federal or state law, yes, that could be a major problem.
    THIS is why the hiring process involves so many steps with checks and balances built in.

    Many experienced individuals will be reviewing your application and test results. What one person misses or overlooks will be caught and questioned by someone else.

    The sum total gives us a pretty good idea of your character and a bit of an idea of your suitability to be successful in your career.
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    I have had it happen to me and I was an officer at the time of the background. I have never had a ticket in my life and I only had one accident that was not my fault. I had one drinking ticket that I was never convicted on as a juvenile. Like others have mentioned there is always a reason and sometimes it isn't your fault. One omission on your application could have caused the DQ.

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