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    Tractor Trailer Right Turns

    Just wondering how you all would handel this?

    Say a tractor trailer is making a right turn and to clear the turn he has to take the oncoming lane (like in example a)

    When the truck took the lane it was clear but, as the driver was turning a vehicle pulled out of a side street and into the lane the truck was is and procede to drive into the front of truck and cause a wreck. Who would get the ticket?

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    I Need more information.
    Where is the point of impact?

    Which direction is the second vehicle going?
    How far is the side street from the intersection?
    Which side is the side street from the intersection?
    Are there any traffic control devices for the intersection and the side street?

    What does North Carolina law say about trucks making right turns?
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    The person at fault would get the ticket....you want a better answer you need to provide more information.

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    Hard to say. Picture A is what is taught in the Missouri CDL driver's manual. If you look at it closely, unless a car entered the intersection, a wreck should not occur. If the driver wasn't paying attention and executed the turn when the intersection wasn't clear, he would get the ticket. Same thing for the car.

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    Your question is not clear enough, but let me give it a stab.

    The truck makes a turn, another car makes a turn without seeing the truck and runs into the truck. Is that it basically?

    Car's fault, truck was there first
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneAdam12 View Post
    I Need more information.
    Where is the point of impact?

    Which direction is the second vehicle going? Second vehicle is traveling in it's correct lane but, the truck was already there trying to clear the turn.
    How far is the side street from the intersection?Let's say 150 feet.
    Which side is the side street from the intersection? Car would be turning right.
    Are there any traffic control devices for the intersection and the side street?Stop light at the intersection was green for the truck and a stop sign on the side street for the car.

    What does North Carolina law say about trucks making right turns?
    North Carolina says to make the turn as in picture A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdrdep View Post
    Your question is not clear enough, but let me give it a stab.

    The truck makes a turn, another car makes a turn without seeing the truck and runs into the truck. Is that it basically?

    Car's fault, truck was there first
    Mdrdep yes that was the question. Just was wondering how it would be rulled upon being the truck was in the oncoming lane.

    Thank you all for your responses.

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    Go with the lug nut rule. The one with the most lug nuts has the right of way.
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    If the car ran into the truck it's the cars fault and the car would get the ticket

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    Here is the law in CA, it pretty much mirrors all other states:
    Turning Upon a Highway

    22100. Except as provided in Section 22100.5 or 22101, the driver of any vehicle intending to turn upon a highway shall do so as follows:

    (a) Right Turns. Both the approach for a right-hand turn and a right-hand turn shall be made as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except:

    (1) Upon a highway having three marked lanes for traffic moving in one direction that terminates at an intersecting highway accommodating traffic in both directions, the driver of a vehicle in the middle lane may turn right into any lane lawfully available to traffic moving in that direction upon the roadway being entered.

    (2) If a right-hand turn is made from a one-way highway at an intersection, a driver shall approach the turn as provided in this subdivision and shall complete the turn in any lane lawfully available to traffic moving in that direction upon the roadway being entered.

    (3) Upon a highway having an additional lane or lanes marked for a right turn by appropriate signs or markings, the driver of a vehicle may turn right from any lane designated and marked for that turning movement.
    From the CA Commercial Driver Handbook:
    Right turns.

    Here are some rules to help prevent right turn accidents:
    • Turn slowly to give yourself
    and others more time to avoid problems.
    • If you are driving a truck or bus that cannot make a right turn without swinging into another lane, turn wide as you complete the turn as shown in Figure 2-8. Keep the rear of your vehicle close to the curb. This will stop other drivers from passing you on the right.
    • Do not turn wide to the left as you start the turn. A following driver may think you are turning left and try to pass you on the right. You may hit the other vehicle as you complete your turn.
    • If you must cross into the oncoming lane to make a turn, look for vehicles coming toward you. Give them room to go by or to stop. However, do not back up for them, because you might hit someone behind you.
    The diagram offered shows that a commercial vehicle may, after making the right turn, cross into opposing lanes if necessary as long as it returns to its appropriate lane as soon as possible (Closely resembling Figure "A" in your query).

    Presuming the commercial vehicle began it turn and entered the highway before the passenger vehicle completed its turn and straigtened out to head in the opposite direction, the passenger car driver would be at fault. If the passenger vehicle was first to enter and was approaching the intersection when the commercial vehicle entered the intersection to begin its turn, the commercial driver would be at fault. Primarily, the turning vehicle must yield to all other vehicles which are lawfully occupying the roadway.
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    In KY, no one would get a ticket unless the officer witnessed the violation/collision.

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    Let the insurance companies battle it out. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexcoptk View Post
    In KY, no one would get a ticket unless the officer witnessed the violation/collision.
    Same here in AR, no one would get a ticket unless witnessed by an officer.

    But in your situation, i would assume that you could tell by the position of the vehicles on who is at fault. If the Semi is barely turned then one would assume that it was his fault. If the Semi was already fully turned and almost straight enough to go back to his lane, then one would assume it was the cars fault. But you know what they say about assuming .......... it doesnt hold in court.

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