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    Running a gun's serial number

    Can you share with me the procedure to run a serial number on a gun at a crime scene? Do you have a computer you enter the # into or do you have to call it in and someone else looks it up?
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    Either or. Depends what the department is equipped with.
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    Are you wanting to query the number with NCIC? If so that's easily doable, and any officer with a means to communicate to someone sitting at a NCIC terminal can do so.

    On a local level, you could query the number in a report database to see if it's ever been listed in such.

    I simply radio a communications center and state "10-51 on a firearm." I'll subsequently provide the serial number which will be queried, and at the same time I'll state the manufacturer, model, and caliber so the operator can eliminate any hits that may return for whatever reason.

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    We can do it on our computers, but I'll be damned if anyone showed me how. I just run it over the air. Of course here we don't have actual gun registration, if its not stolen or listed on NCIC for some other reason than it will come back not on file.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Slaughter View Post
    Either or. Depends what the department is equipped with.
    NCIC has a database.

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    We can do it either way. Call it in to dispatch over the radio or enter info on car computer. Either way it's checked through NCIC.

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    We don't have MTC's so I call it in to dispatch and have them run it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkansasFan24 View Post
    Are you wanting to query the number with NCIC? If so that's easily doable, and any officer with a means to communicate to someone sitting at a NCIC terminal can do so.

    On a local level, you could query the number in a report database to see if it's ever been listed in such.

    I simply radio a communications center and state "10-51 on a firearm." I'll subsequently provide the serial number which will be queried, and at the same time I'll state the manufacturer, model, and caliber so the operator can eliminate any hits that may return for whatever reason.
    If you relay this information is it or the reply made on an encrypted frequency or could someone with a scanner hear the info?

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    We'd just ask for a stolen check on X and the dispatcher would respond if it was entered or not. No secrets or codes--just plain talk. Depending on the circumstances, it is sometimes easer to run an item over the phone or take it back to station and run it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novelwriter View Post
    If you relay this information is it or the reply made on an encrypted frequency or could someone with a scanner hear the info?
    At my agency all of our radio communications are encrypted but I would usually just use my MDT. Its a lot quicker for me to eliminate matches myself rather than a dispatcher trying do it.

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    Our MDT's do not have NCIC. We have to run all checks through dispatch.

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    I know in Dallas it's an unencrypted radio system so the dispatcher would respond back something along the lines of "(element number) that gun shows to be stolen out of Dallas PD (or whatever agency). Do you want us to confirm that through NCIC?" So if a citizen had a scanner they certainly could overhear the stolen hit. It really depends on the agency though. A lot of agencies have the capability to encrypt their radio signals. Even if I check it on the car computer, it will ring up at our dispatchers console and they will confirm the hit on the radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novelwriter View Post
    If you relay this information is it or the reply made on an encrypted frequency or could someone with a scanner hear the info?
    Well, it depends upon the agency. I have the ability to speak on a VHF highband radio or a digital radio. Everyone's scanner will pick up the VHF while it takes an expensive one ($450+) to pick up the signals on the digitized trunking system. The VHF can be encrypted.

    Either way it doesn't really matter. I don't deem that to be sensitive information. We don't have gun registration here such that you could query a firearm to see who owns and/or should be in possession of it.

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    In car on computer, or call a buddy at the front desk to use the computer at the station.
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    We would run it, as we do people, on a different channel that cannot be scanned.....that way joe q. wannabe scannerman can't get personal info on people I check
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