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    Army vs Navy as MP

    US Army or US Navy for a year or two as Military Police.
    Short term, just for the experience of have been in the miltary.

    Who would be the best choice, and why?

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    Well the navy does not have MP's. They have MA's and while they are still technically doing MP jobs, depending upon the duty station, you can be a command MA doing urinalysis tests.
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    Go Marine Corps MP. If you want to do Law Enforcement thats probably the best branch to go into besides the CG. While yes, the Marine Corps is having Civilian Police man some of their posts on base, its not nearly on the level that the Army or Navy are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal_Marine View Post
    its not nearly on the level that the Army or Navy are doing.
    You check USAJOBs out lately....? It's going to happen real quick that all major Corps bases are manned by civilan Police Officers.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearcat357 View Post
    You check USAJOBs out lately....? It's going to happen real quick that all major Corps bases are manned by civilan Police Officers.....
    But its not there yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal_Marine View Post
    But its not there yet
    Well...it's getting close enough that folks coming in are going to be SOL.....as they are hiring Officers, Traffic, K-9, and Investigators....plus the bases that have them are hiring civilan Game Warden Officers as well.....

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    if you wanna do le in the military go coast guard

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    COAST GUARD, I was in the Army both active and reserve for 16 years and at first the Army had MP's patrol the base, then they slowly got phased out of that job description and civilian law enforcement does it now.

    I think you would enjoy and get more out of the Coast Guard. A few of my friend are in Coast Guard law enforcement and they love it. You can do drug interdiction in Florida.

    Check with a Coast Guard recruiter, I think you'll be happier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tactical208 View Post
    COAST GUARD, I was in the Army both active and reserve for 16 years and at first the Army had MP's patrol the base, then they slowly got phased out of that job description and civilian law enforcement does it now.

    I think you would enjoy and get more out of the Coast Guard. A few of my friend are in Coast Guard law enforcement and they love it. You can do drug interdiction in Florida.

    Check with a Coast Guard recruiter, I think you'll be happier.
    MP's still patrol the posts.

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    Daniela,

    I'd like to add that ANY job you take in the military will look good to potential civilian employers after you get out. I strongly advise you to pick a job that you'll enjoy and to get a degree WHILE your in. Life has a funny way of happening very quickly and before you know it you have 2 kids and find attending school (even if free) extremely impractical.

    Also, being an MP,SF,or MAA will not help you more in civilian LE than say being a cook. What they look for is the dedication, responsibility, life experience, integrity, and discipline that ANY military job gives you. Also receiving a high level clearance while in the military will look great on your resume. If I could do it all over I would have picked an intel job with a high clearance level and clepped and dante'd my way into a bachelor's degree in ANYTHING but CJ. Then I would have applied to every ABC Federal agency there was when I got out.

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    MP vs. MA

    Quote Originally Posted by tactical208 View Post
    COAST GUARD, I was in the Army both active and reserve for 16 years and at first the Army had MP's patrol the base, then they slowly got phased out of that job description and civilian law enforcement does it now.

    I think you would enjoy and get more out of the Coast Guard. A few of my friend are in Coast Guard law enforcement and they love it. You can do drug interdiction in Florida.

    Check with a Coast Guard recruiter, I think you'll be happier.
    Considering that this guy was Army, but recommends Coast Guard, I think that says a lot. Of the two originally mentioned, Army vs. Navy, then clearly Army over Navy. If the operative word is "short", then you may find that there are now more choices of "short" term enlistments then there was in the past. I think Army may have been first with a 2 year enlistment back when, however, considering how things have been lately an enlistment of 2 years active might be longer than 2 years.

    At one time if canine interested folks, the Air Force was the way to go to be an SP with a dog.

    The other thing to keep in mind is what or where your ultimate goal is. In some agencies a military background might open the door, but there is no guarantee. In fact, over the years it has changed with time and depending on what agency. Some agencies decide being an EMT or paramedic will get a person the job. Still others want a second language. Some like the 4 year degree. Some look very closely at physical fitness, so it really runs the gamut. There just isn't any one "magic bullet" that works everywhere.

    I also agree that the CLEP program is worthwhile to look into to test out of classes if you can.
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    Thanks for all the input. I will look into Cost Guard. I think I am too old for the Marines Corps, as I am 33. So it is basicly a choice of Air Force and Coast Guard? And as far as my choice of MP is "just to get it out of my system" and to have been doing a service. It might as well have been Business Management but I would like to try MP.

    Thanks guys.

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    Daniella,

    It seems your heart is set on being an MP. I would like to add that although the MP's stateside duties have been reduced drastically their overseas and United States contingency mission focus is becoming more intelligence oriented. (Think developing sources etc.IE. Police intel ops). Now as an Army MP you'll find that as a woman it will be the closest you can come to being in a combat MOS (if that's your thing). MP's and women MP's have engaged in combat operations. Now something else to consider if you end up liking the Army your experience as an MP is necessary to join CID. If you make it to CID you'll receive a Top Secret clearance and get some very in demand LE and investigative experience that combined with a degree would make you seriously competitive in the Federal Special Agent market.

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    Thanks..so the Army MP will help me do CID if that times come, but how about NCIS? They Navy would do me any good there?

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    Think about the Coast Guard, I met a few sea marshalls and they all loved their job. It was so much easier for them to get in to real law enforcement once they completed their service obligation.
    I on the other hand joined the Navy and I hated all 4 years.

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    It seems like I am to old for the Coast Guard,
    http://www.gocoastguard.com/get-the-...e-information/

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    heck out the coast guard reserves, as others have said cg may be the best option for you

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    I'm currently in the Army as Military Police, and heres my two cents. After I graduated basic in 2005. I went to my first duty station in a little town of germany. I worked LE for alittle over a year and a half, although from what I've been told LE in germany is not quite the same as in the states, but really I cannot comment on that since I've never been stationed state side(yet). Since roughly 2007 to March 2008 we focused more on our combat role. In march our company deployed to eastern afghanistan. Where are current mission is police training teams to the local nationals. In the Army Military Police sever more roles than just a road cop we have five major functions (found here: http://www.wood.army.mil/usamps/usamps_MP_functions.htm)
    I'm really not sure of your plans but you can join the Army as a Warrant Officer in the career feild of CID. You'll still deploy but you won't support much of the previous mentioned five functions. As stated before in eariler posts most LE jobs in the Military are going to Civvys. Although it is happening for CID as well its not as obvious and dramatic as the 31Bravo feild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniella View Post
    Thanks..so the Army MP will help me do CID if that times come

    Enlisted, Reserve and National Guard requirements:
    - U.S. citizenship
    - Minimum age of 21
    - Maximum grade of E-5 Sergeant (non-promotable)
    - Minimum of two years of military service but not more than 10
    - Minimum of one year of military police experience or two civilian police experience (a waiver of this prerequisite may be considered if favorably endorsed by the local CID office)
    - Minimum of 60 college credit hours from an accredited institution (a waiver of up to half of this prerequisite may be considered if favorably endorsed by the local CID office; 31B/E may request waiver to 15 semester hours)
    - Minimum ST score of 107 or higher, ST score of 110 or higher if tested prior to January 2, 2002
    - Pass the Adult Basic Education (TABE) test (level A w/Spelling) with a total battery grade level of 12.9 (applicants holding an associate or higher degree and applicants from the - Reserve Component are exempt from this requirement)
    - Meet the height and weight standards prescribed in AR 600-9 and pass an Army Physical Fitness Test) within the last six months
    - Physical profile 222221 or better
    - Normal color vision (this may be waived if applicant can distinguish between green, red and amber)
    - Must possess a valid driver’s license
    - Ability to speak and write clearly
    - Ability to deploy worldwide
    - 36 months of service obligation upon completion of the Apprentice Special Agent Course
    - Suitable character established by a Single Scope Background Investigation leading to a Top Secret clearance
    - No record of having less than an honorable discharge
    - No record of Lost Time
    - No civil court or court martial convictions
    - No record of mental or emotional disorders
    - No record of unsatisfactory credit

    For additional information, contact the nearest CID office.


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    Warrant Officer Requirements:*
    - Be a SGT (E5) or above serving in MOS 31D
    - Two years criminal investigative experience with USACIDC (non-waiverable for enlisted Army personnel) (Will consider accreditation from other services such as AFOSI, NCIS, DCIS, etc)
    - Demonstrated potential to serve as a team chief, Special Agent-in-Charge or operations officer as documented in previous performance evaluation reports and supervisors endorsements
    - Bachelors degree (120 semester hours), may be waived to 60 hours if otherwise fully qualified
    - Current Top Secret clearance based on a Single Scope Background Investigation
    - Management abilities and good communication skills

    31B/E V5’s seeking direct accession to Warrant Officer must meet the prerequisites for both 31D and 311A, the exception being the MPI would have completed MPI school leading to award of V5 and served at least 24 months in an MP investigator capacity. MPI applicants must be SSG or SFC not yet eligible for MSG.

    *Commissioned officers are ineligible for Special Agent positions

    For additional information, contact the nearest CID office.



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    Civilian Special Agent (1811) Requirements:
    Civilian criminal investigators in CID do not investigate general crimes, but are specialists in areas such as investigating computer system intrusions, polygraphy, operations, investigative policy and major contract procurement fraud. The full performance for all positions is Pay Band YK-02 in the National Security Personnel System Recruitment is typically done at the full performance level of the pay band for all areas, except for procurement fraud investigators. Procurement fraud investigators may be recruited in a developmental position that equates to a GS-09 entry level in Pay Band YK-01. Three years of training and a corresponding increase in job responsibilities, will culminate in a promotion to the full performance level pay band YK-02 equating to a GS-13. Qualification requirements for the entry level procurement fraud investigator include either a minimum of 3 years felony investigative experience or a master’s degree in a related field such as law, business, accounting, contracting or criminal justice. Specialized experience involves obtaining physical and documentary evidence, interviewing witnesses, applying for and serving warrants for arrest, searches and seizures, seizing contraband, equipment, and vehicles, examining files and records, maintaining surveillance, performing undercover assignments, preparing investigative reports, testifying in hearings and trials and assisting U.S. Attorneys in the prosecution of court cases. Education may be substituted for experience if the applicant has two full years of progressively higher-level graduate education, a masters or equivalent graduate degree. To be creditable, education must have been completed in an accredited college or university and must have provided the candidate with the abilities to perform the duties of the position. These positions fall under the purview of the Federal Law Enforcement Retirement System. Therefore, the applicant must be under age 37 to apply and must be appointed before reaching their 37th birthday. For information on available positions, please check the www.cpol.army.mil website.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal_Marine View Post
    Go Marine Corps MP. If you want to do Law Enforcement thats probably the best branch to go into besides the CG. While yes, the Marine Corps is having Civilian Police man some of their posts on base, its not nearly on the level that the Army or Navy are doing.
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