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    How can a "blank" kill you?

    I've heard of times before and the recent one where that 15 year old was killed in a high school play with a blank bullet, how does it kill them? Does it sometimes shoot out stuff or something, I've always wondered this but never could find out.

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    Blanks are essentially bullet-less ammo that is crimped at the end. It still has powder inside to make it go boom. That much pressure has to go somewhere. Fatalities from blanks are caused by someone holding the muzzle end of the weapon to the head of the victim, thinking it's safe since there's no actual "bullet". The pressure kills them. Cap guns are completely different.

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    some blanks also use a small plastic disk about half the size of a contact lens that can be formed into a 900+ fps projectile. Plus like the Sgt. said you still have gsr and blow back pressures from contact.

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    I thought mikeymedic was gonna point out I missed talking about the blank's pressure causing intracerebral hemmorhage!
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    Isn't that how Brandon Lee was killed on the set of The Crow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by safetyallday View Post
    Isn't that how Brandon Lee was killed on the set of The Crow?
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    According to post-investigation reports, Brandon Lee was killed by debris from a previous round, that was in the chamber when the blank round was fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willowdared View Post
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    And Jon-Erik Hexum
    Makes me think of Jennifer O'Neill.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Slaughter View Post
    I thought mikeymedic was gonna point out I missed talking about the blank's pressure causing intracerebral hemmorhage!
    indeed, the resulting shock wave from the blast could result in ruptured blood vessels, thus causing a subdural hematoma and thus increase inter-cranial pressures.

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    Here's the wikipedia link to Jon-Erik Hexum's bio. It explains the manner of "death by blank ammo":

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum

    Place a styrofoam cup right in front of an empty, but CO2 charged pellet gun. Pull the trigger. It should leave a hole. Same deal....high pressure channeled through a small hole into a weak target...now multiply that by all the gases and debris released by a blank ammo cartridge, into a human skull, and the results are deadly.
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    Movie studios make a few different types of blanks. Some are paper wads, and the gun is modified to operate on the limited gas pressure (compared to a real round), and it has the resulting flash/pop the camera wants. They also use "suicide blanks" with plugged barrels. These do not have any matter leaving the barrel, used for scenes where the gun is fired directly against the actor (hence the name). But even these can injure. A stuntman that later became the director of Chemical Evil was seriously wounded when the barrel plug made to allow the gun to function by creating backpressure dislodged and became the bullet itself.

    This is why sets have dedicated "gun wranglers" so actors don't goof off, fail to clear a chamber after a scene, load the improper type of blank, etc.
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    One of my tranquilizer dart rifles is powered by blanks- .22 blanks even. When I open up the pressure orfice all the way it pushes a 280 grain dart at a deadly velocity.

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    THESE THINGS use a blank .22 or .27 cartridge to shoot a nail into concrete. Thats some serious force, so blanks can do a lot of damage.
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    very ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogginbuster24 View Post
    very ironic.
    Hadn't thought of that, but you are right. Faking suicide and what do you know???

    Added irony is your username and you pointed that out.

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    Ever load a blank, and then leave a cleaning rod in the barrel? yeah...had to dig that thing out of the tree..
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    ....plus, you can choke on them if you're not careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by safetyallday View Post
    Isn't that how Brandon Lee was killed on the set of The Crow?
    There was another actor about 20 years ago killed like this. I don't remember his name anymore but he was a actor in some TV action show.

    edit- Keith already got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kieth M. View Post
    Here's the wikipedia link to Jon-Erik Hexum's bio. It explains the manner of "death by blank ammo":

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum

    Place a styrofoam cup right in front of an empty, but CO2 charged pellet gun. Pull the trigger. It should leave a hole. Same deal....high pressure channeled through a small hole into a weak target...now multiply that by all the gases and debris released by a blank ammo cartridge, into a human skull, and the results are deadly.
    Last edited by Rohan; 11-26-2008 at 01:51 PM.
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