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12-28-2008, 07:15 PM
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Crown Vic seatbelt DING disable
In an effort to keep everyone sane while cruising in high crime areas w/ your seat belt off, I found this in the owner's manual online and figured I'd share it. It works!
Seating and Safety Restraints
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• The ignition switch is in the OFF position
• The driver and front passenger safety belts are unbuckled
While the design allows you to deactivate your Belt-Minder, this
system is designed to improve your chances of being safely
belted and surviving an accident. We recommend you leave the
Belt-Minder system activated for yourself and others who may use the
vehicle. To reduce the risk of injury, do not deactivate/activate the
Belt-Minder feature while driving the vehicle.
1. Turn the ignition switch to the RUN (or ON) position. (DO NOT
START THE ENGINE)
2. Wait until the safety belt warning light turns off. (Approximately 1
minute)
• Step 3 must be completed within 50 seconds after the safety belt
warning light turns off.
3. For the seating position being disabled, at a moderate speed, buckle
then unbuckle the safety belt 9 times, ending in the unbuckled state.
(Step 3 must be completed within 50 seconds after the safety belt
warning light turns off.)
• After Step 3, the restraint system warning light (airbag light) will be
turned on for three seconds.
4. Within approximately 7 seconds of the light turning off, buckle then
unbuckle the safety belt.
• This will disable the Belt-Minder feature for that seating position if it
is currently enabled. As confirmation, the restraint system warning
light will flash 4 times per second for 3 seconds.
Above 2 lines: I never got this on my dash but follow previous steps and it works.
• This will enable the Belt-Minder feature for that seating position if it
is currently disabled. As confirmation, the restraint system warning
light will flash 4 times per second for 3 seconds, followed by 3
seconds with the light off, then followed by the restraint system
warning light flashing 4 times per second for 3 seconds again.
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12-28-2008, 07:22 PM
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Think you can find this for the Impala? It was disabled somehow, and then went to the shop and came out magically working. That or I gained enough weight to activate it. 
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12-28-2008, 07:26 PM
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good post...i am going to print this and hang it in the squad room.......
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12-28-2008, 07:44 PM
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How about something a LOT easier?
1. Go to a Ford dealer.
2. Walk into the parts department.
3. Approach the Counter person.
4. When prompted for your question, inquire as to the availability of a SEAT BELT EXTENDER.
5. If in stock, get it.
6. If NOT in stock, have one ordered....two if you put your crap on the front seat. More, if you want your partners to like you (there is no guarantee they will like you).
7. Proceed to the cashier.
8. Pay exactly $0.00 for each seat belt extender. See, per the ADA, these are free for the asking. I get some for the whole station in one run (they order them, I pick them up 3 days later).
They REALLY help the seat belt buckle clear your gear while sitting in the car with the belt on. It makes getting out of the seat belt really simple and much faster. It moves the buckle from behind your gun (right handed) or your hand held radio/expandable baton (left handed or passenger side righty) to just right of center. It also takes the belt off of your neck and onto your shoulder.
Plus, it makes the car think the seat belt is plugged in, and no constant seat belt reminder chime!!!! So, why wouldn't you do this? It's cheap (well, free), and super easy! If you do what the OP posted, if you have to remove the battery cables then you have to reset the whole thing all over again.
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12-28-2008, 08:06 PM
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FJDAVE,
Thats Great!! I have a chevy Tahoe I use for duty, does that apply to chevy vehicles too??
Do I have to tell them it's free under the ADA or do they already know?
Thanks,
G-man
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12-28-2008, 08:08 PM
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Hey G-MAN....yes, they already know, and it's for ANY vehicles. I have a Tahoe (4x4 with regular suspension) for the supervisor vehicle too...I hate it, but hey, it gets me from point A to point Z 
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12-28-2008, 08:50 PM
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Dave,
How much flak has Eastern given you guys for modifying the county vehicles?.....or have they even noticed?
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12-28-2008, 10:21 PM
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They don't care. We use Johnson Control, not your mechanics (LONG story, but suffice it to say the County sees our cars as pool vehicles and are not pursuit rated). Besides, it's not a vehicle modification. It's simply a 6" long piece of seat belt with a buckle on each end. When we take the cars to Eastern (or in my case, Monrovia), we simply unbuckle the extender and take the car in. That way it doesn't come up missing.
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12-28-2008, 10:57 PM
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I got a belt extender. You can get them from ford for free. If you wear a belt it puts the button in a easy place to hit. It's not way down on your gun side. The belt extenders make the car think the seatbelt is buckled and I have never got a chime.
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12-29-2008, 12:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FJDave
They don't care. We use Johnson Control, not your mechanics (LONG story, but suffice it to say the County sees our cars as pool vehicles and are not pursuit rated). Besides, it's not a vehicle modification. It's simply a 6" long piece of seat belt with a buckle on each end. When we take the cars to Eastern (or in my case, Monrovia), we simply unbuckle the extender and take the car in. That way it doesn't come up missing.
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Copy......want to bet a cup of coffee that its out of policy (for us, in any rate) to modify the car in ANY fashion?.....(and that includes adding things on, too)......
Of course, its also a no-no to pull fuses too.....
Every CV I drove was 'de-dinged' within the first 5 minutes of me driving it......
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12-29-2008, 12:53 AM
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There is also a wire you (or SOMEONE, unknown who....  ) can cut to permanently disable it (for officer safety reasons, you know). But I have no idea what wire it is.
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12-29-2008, 10:36 AM
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Hmmm.... Mine doesn't ding so I guess the guy before me disabled the "dinger." On a related note, the thing that blew my mind was that he hadn't disabled the factory dome light which turned on when opening the door. It took me about 30 seconds to pull the bulb out and replace the cover. The after-market, manually-operated dome light is much better.
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12-29-2008, 12:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FJDave
Plus, it makes the car think the seat belt is plugged in, and no constant seat belt reminder chime!!!!.
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Doesn't work in the Impala.
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12-29-2008, 01:24 PM
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Well then, it seems like it might be time to find that wire..... 
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12-29-2008, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenners
Think you can find this for the Impala? It was disabled somehow, and then went to the shop and came out magically working. That or I gained enough weight to activate it. 
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All chevy manuals, see below link.
http://www.gm.ca/gm/english/owners/c...nuals/overview
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12-29-2008, 02:12 PM
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The door chime and the dome light are good mods for safety. Also, nothing is more annoying when you hear someone clear and their door chime is going off....
The next one I wanna do is disable the amber marker lamps between the headlights on my CV. Nothing screams cop car like those things. Its tricky tho cause each lamp has one bulb in it. And each bulb has two elements, one for marker light and one for turn signal.
Any thoughts?
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12-29-2008, 02:52 PM
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Anyone have a workaround for a dodge?
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12-29-2008, 04:14 PM
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You are my hero, BPD 126. I always wondered how this was done but was far to lazy to read the manual. =P
Tonight will be a chime free night! Hoorah!
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12-29-2008, 10:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha Male
You are my hero, BPD 126. I always wondered how this was done but was far to lazy to read the manual. =P
Tonight will be a chime free night! Hoorah!
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Yeah we only have a whopping fleet of about 12 patrol cars. I think most of them are done w/ the ding in the last few days. I forwarded it on to everyone and we all drive different cars all the time. It's nice being a minute away from a call on a side street and not having to hear it. I'm thinkin, "Alright! Someone got the memo!" LOL
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12-30-2008, 03:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a320az
The next one I wanna do is disable the amber marker lamps between the headlights on my CV. Nothing screams cop car like those things. Its tricky tho cause each lamp has one bulb in it. And each bulb has two elements, one for marker light and one for turn signal.
Any thoughts?
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Those things actually work? Take it to the KCPD garage and they will never function again...and not because they know some trick to "fix" that. There's also the semi-functioning left headlight that they can never seem to figure out. But oh, I get it, they're trying to help us not be so conspicuous 
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12-30-2008, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kcpd2528
Those things actually work? Take it to the KCPD garage and they will never function again...and not because they know some trick to "fix" that. There's also the semi-functioning left headlight that they can never seem to figure out. But oh, I get it, they're trying to help us not be so conspicuous 
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LMAO...
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12-30-2008, 07:10 PM
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I am begging you all to wear your seatbelts. Please. I have been in 4 major collisions, none of which I was at fault, and have been lucky enough to walk away from all of them.
The first one, the car I was a passenger was in was t-boneed at an intersection by a DUI at 50mph. The collision hit the passnger door at the the mirror and popped the door open. The car spun with the door open while I looked at the ground below me. I saw the airbag deploy and felt the seatbelt dig into my neck as the centrifricul force was trying to throw me from the car.
The second was a semi that ran a red light and took the front of may car off. Again i saw the airbags deploy, but never felt their impact.
The third I was rear-ended by a DUI driver at 40 mph while and spun into a light pole. ( That one I felt the airbag. It;s not fun and the gas they use burns for days.
The last one my car was rammed head on by a fleeing offender. again the seatbelts held me tight, I watched the airbags deploy and when I was able to kick my door open I was able to successfully pursue the offender on foor. Had I not been wearing the seat belt the offender would have made good his escape.
If you use your seatbelt all the time, you develop muscle memory for getting in and out of it.
Please use them. I do not want to go to the memorial in may and hear about brothers and sisters who did not make it home because they were't wearing their seatbelts.
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12-30-2008, 07:24 PM
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Will it work on a 2006 Ford F-150???
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12-30-2008, 07:25 PM
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I always wear my seat belt, except when I'm within a couple hundred feet of me stopping the car to get out. That's when the seat belt minder chime will give away my position, so I use the seat belt extender. I just unlatch the seat belt from the extender.
I agree, ALWAYS wear the belt!
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12-30-2008, 07:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ExplorerE321
Will it work on a 2006 Ford F-150???
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The seat belt extender will....read the manual to disable your chime.
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