Ncis

[dotcomer]

For those of you that are in the process, I was wondering why NCIS is having so many open announcements? I figured a large number of agents must be reaching the age of retirement. Any word on the exact number of agents they plan on hiring here in the next few years?

[StateChamp]

not to hijack the thread, has anyone even heard a word about any of the past announcements?

[dotcomer]

I called HQ last week and she said they are really back logged at the moment.

[Lawman416]

I completed my medical stuff at the end of last month and they finished my BI around the same time last month, I have not heard anything since so I am just waiting now.

[dotcomer]

How often do you get moved in NCIS and what is their policy with deployments?

[airasslt1865]

I am finished with the NCIS process and I thought I would pass on some of the information I gathered from my SAR. He is telling me and others that NCIS is going to have a big hiring year because of retirments and because they are picking up some duties that have traditionaly been handled by the Army. Just thought I would pass that on.

[Jarhead1302]

Thanks for the info!

[dotcomer]

What specific qualifications do NCIS look for when hiring a new agent. I know the announcement says college degree, but do they have a preference for military background? Also what is the steps in the process from when you apply?

Thanks

[audi0xpl0de]

Glad to hear. I'm hoping for some movement in the coming months.

[dotcomer]

ROSchwoe,

Thanks for your response. You provided some valuable information.

[BryanO]

I'm an intelligence officer in the Army Guard. Is it mandatory that the military release you before hire? I would like to apply, but I really want to deploy at least once, and that may not happen right away. What am I looking at? Is it possible to stay in the Guard while serving with NCIS?

TIA,

Bryan.

[StateChamp]

Anyone hear anything back from the past two recent announcements?

[audi0xpl0de]

Nothing yet except that my status says my application was favorably reviewed and sent to FO.

[StateChamp]

Nothing yet except that my status says my application was favorably reviewed and sent to FO.

Where did you find out that from? Site?

[audi0xpl0de]

Yep, the NCIS application manager. I've had that message for about 1.5 months now.

[VT04]

Ditto to what audioxplode said.

[FormerUSAF]

State Champ,

When you log into Quickhire, click the option that say's application status and it should be right there.

[Good_to_go!]

Yep,

Same here...

Nothing yet except that my status says my application was favorably reviewed and sent to FO.

[Good_to_go!]

RO,

Would you mind elaborating a bit here? OCONUS meaning Gitmo, Pearl, Japan, etc., right?

Where would a SA (and family) live in such circumstances? (especially in Cuba, on base?)

Thanks!

PS: sorry if I sound completely ignorant...


you are expected to do at least one OCONUS PCS.

[StateChamp]

State Champ,

When you log into Quickhire, click the option that say's application status and it should be right there.

Thanks for the info. I will log on to it to see what it says. Again thanks for the help.:)

[dpd0779]

OCONUS= Outside the Continental United States. I dont think you can take your family to Cuba, that would probably be a deployment. Japan, Germany, South Korea or any other would have housing for family members on and off base.

[StateChamp]

Logged in and under status mine just says: Application received. Wonder if I didn't make the cuts or they just haven't reviewed my application? Anyways,
if anyone doesn't know the site to go check your status I listed it below.

https://jobs1.quickhire.com/scripts/ncis.exe

[audi0xpl0de]

I'm guessing they haven't gotten to it yet, otherwise it'd have a rejection status.

[Lawman416]

I have gone most of the way through the process, finished med and BI, and mine still just says "application received" so it may depend on the office

[StateChamp]

I have gone most of the way through the process, finished med and BI, and mine still just says "application received" so it may depend on the office

Thanks for the update and helping me remain calm. On another note, how long has this process been for you so far?

audi0xpl0de, Thank you as well.

[Lawman416]

I applied Nov 07 so it has been a pretty fast process up to this point. Thats not to say that it could not come to a stand still at any moment, but it has been a pretty positive experience so far.

[StateChamp]

Sounds really fast paced. Hopefully, the process will go fast for the rest of us. I mean fast by referring to government terms.

Also, how long did it take from application turned in to hear something back? I know this is a situtational question, but for a "guesstimate" timeline for the rest of us.

[k85o911]

same here statechamp

[Lawman416]

Here is my timeline for anyone interested:
11/07 applied
2/08 notified of test
2/08 test
3/08 pre screen
3/08 panel interview
6/08 BI started
7/08 med
7/08 BI finished

[StateChamp]

Here is my timeline for anyone interested:
11/07 applied
2/08 notified of test
2/08 test
3/08 pre screen
3/08 panel interview
6/08 BI started
7/08 med
7/08 BI finished

Thanks. Keep us updated :)

[skid13]

Received word that my testing in September has been cancelled due to a new directive from HQ. I am also unable to log into quickhire.. anyone else?

[audi0xpl0de]

Received word that my testing in September has been cancelled due to a new directive from HQ. I am also unable to log into quickhire.. anyone else?

I checked this morning and didn't have any issues.

[NCIS_SA]

Ok. Been a watcher for awhile now I gotta say something. Here it is straight:

1. The entire applicant process is currently under review and expected to be totally revamped. The written test is being "re-written" because of "issues". It may go away completely. As of right now, current applicants in the pipeline may not be required to take the initial test, if they havent already. You will get screened and go straight to a board. They are doing this to speed up the process because there arent enough applicants in the pool.

2. Up to 60 new spots in the first 2 qtrs of FY09 to replace existing vacancies and cover attrition. Expect the hiring posture to increase tempo dramatically in the next few weeks. The next open application period begins in September.

3. Our recruiting sucks - as of now we have generated applications pretty much by word of mouth. Expect that to change soon, too. That should iincrease the numbers of qualified applicants dramatically.

4. If you turn down your first offer, there may not be a second: HQ is getting fed up with too many cherry pickers.

The agency: Been here awhile. Former cop/military. This aint exactly police work but it's a pretty cool gig. Plus - $100K+ law enforcement jobs arent around every corner. Expect to move a lot (realistically, every 4 - 5 years) and travel to some pretty cool vacation destinations (including Iraq). Your family better be on board with it.

[audi0xpl0de]

Ok. Been a watcher for awhile now I gotta say something. Here it is straight:

1. The entire applicant process is currently under review and expected to be totally revamped. The written test is being "re-written" because of "issues". It may go away completely. As of right now, current applicants in the pipeline may not be required to take the initial test, if they havent already. You will get screened and go straight to a board. They are doing this to speed up the process because there arent enough applicants in the pool.

2. Up to 60 new spots in the first 2 qtrs of FY09 to replace existing vacancies and cover attrition. Expect the hiring posture to increase tempo dramatically in the next few weeks. The next open application period begins in September.

3. Our recruiting sucks - as of now we have generated applications pretty much by word of mouth. Expect that to change soon, too. That should iincrease the numbers of qualified applicants dramatically.

4. If you turn down your first offer, there may not be a second: HQ is getting fed up with too many cherry pickers.

The agency: Been here awhile. Former cop/military. This aint exactly police work but it's a pretty cool gig. Plus - $100K+ law enforcement jobs arent around every corner. Expect to move a lot (realistically, every 4 - 5 years) and travel to some pretty cool vacation destinations (including Iraq). Your family better be on board with it.

Thanks for the great info, much appreciated.

[NCIS_SA]

I'm an intelligence officer in the Army Guard. Is it mandatory that the military release you before hire? I would like to apply, but I really want to deploy at least once, and that may not happen right away. What am I looking at? Is it possible to stay in the Guard while serving with NCIS?

TIA,

Bryan.

Yes, you can stay in the Reserve or Guard and still be an NCIS Special Agent. A lot of us are reservists.

[NCIS_SA]

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=453

An interview with the Deputy Director and includes details about recruiting.

[Jarhead1302]

I have been applying to NCIS vacancies for a couple of years. My status for the last announcement now shows "Grade 11:Reviewed favorably and forwarded to field office".

Has anyone been contacted about this last announcement? Beyond my application status change, I have never actually had contact with a real person concerning NCIS recruiting. Is there a number applicants can call?

[audi0xpl0de]

I have been applying to NCIS vacancies for a couple of years. My status for the last announcement now shows "Grade 11:Reviewed favorably and forwarded to field office".

Has anyone been contacted about this last announcement? Beyond my application status change, I have never actually had contact with a real person concerning NCIS recruiting. Is there a number applicants can call?

My status is the same from the last announcement. No contact yet. If you read the previous posts they are reworking the hiring process. You can send an email to the HR person. It's listed on their website I believe. They are usually pretty quick to respond, although I think the primary person is out on vacation through the 28th.

[StateChamp]

Expect to move a lot (realistically, every 4 - 5 years) and travel to some pretty cool vacation destinations (including Iraq). Your family better be on board with it.

Do you mean your family has to move to Iraq with you? Or did you mean your family is o.k. with you going to the sandbox?

Also, is it required that everyone goes to Iraq? Or can we pick another international location?

[chitown2lacop]

I have been applying to NCIS vacancies for a couple of years. My status for the last announcement now shows "Grade 11:Reviewed favorably and forwarded to field office".

Has anyone been contacted about this last announcement? Beyond my application status change, I have never actually had contact with a real person concerning NCIS recruiting. Is there a number applicants can call?

I have not heard anything since the last open announcement, July, which is when I applied. My status online says application received.

[audi0xpl0de]

I got an email from HR saying I should hear from my FO soon.

[weasel3o3]

Anyone know whats going on? I applied to the vacancy announcement (HQ 2008-0036) logged in recently and status read "Reviewed favorably and forwarded to field office". I have yet to hear anything back via mail, e-mail, telephone or anything. Just wondering if anybody might know whats going on with announcement.

[neflcop]

Anyone know whats going on? I applied to the vacancy announcement (HQ 2008-0036) logged in recently and status read "Reviewed favorably and forwarded to field office". I have yet to hear anything back via mail, e-mail, telephone or anything. Just wondering if anybody might know whats going on with announcement.

same here

[NCIS_SA]

Gentlemen,

You are making a big mistake by sitting idle and waiting to be contacted. Unless someone has spoken to you directly, your application is sitting in a pile somewhere.

You should be aggressive in reaching out to the applicant coordinator in whatever Field Office you live closest to. The AC is designated by each FO Special Agent in Charge and may be an unsworn admin point or a Special Agent. Call the main number and ask to speak with the AC. Then, keep calling to check on your status.

[NCIS_SA]

Do you mean your family has to move to Iraq with you? Or did you mean your family is o.k. with you going to the sandbox?

Also, is it required that everyone goes to Iraq? Or can we pick another international location?

No, your family will not accompany you to Iraq, or Afghanistan, or aboard ship, or to any other hazardous assignment.

So far, there have been no forced deployments to combat zones. In fact, forced moves in general are pretty rare. Most people are smart enough to preempt them by bidding for assignment vacancies they want after 4-5 years in place. But, you have to sign a mobility agreement as a condition of employment that says you are willing to move anywhere at anytime. So, if you sit in your first office for 6 years, you'll be on a list.

The way it works is every year they send out a list for CONUS and OCONUS vacancies. You place bids on those vacancies you want for a Permanent Change of Station, or PCS. Agents overseas have primary selection for the CONUS assignments. Otherwise, your assignment history, training record, foreign language capability, and performance guide your competitiveness for assignment selection.

[StateChamp]

No, your family will not accompany you to Iraq, or Afghanistan, or aboard ship, or to any other hazardous assignment.

So far, there have been no forced deployments to combat zones. In fact, forced moves in general are pretty rare. Most people are smart enough to preempt them by bidding for assignment vacancies they want after 4-5 years in place. But, you have to sign a mobility agreement as a condition of employment that says you are willing to move anywhere at anytime. So, if you sit in your first office for 6 years, you'll be on a list.

The way it works is every year they send out a list for CONUS and OCONUS vacancies. You place bids on those vacancies you want for a Permanent Change of Station, or PCS. Agents overseas have primary selection for the CONUS assignments. Otherwise, your assignment history, training record, foreign language capability, and performance guide your competitiveness for assignment selection.


Thanks for the clarification and additional details. :)

[VT04]

Just called the recruiting department at the WFO and was told that everyone who applied for the last opening will have to reapply in November when the "new system" is put into place. She did not elaborate on what the 'new system' consisted of, just that all of us will have to reapply in NOV.

[audi0xpl0de]

Just called the recruiting department at the WFO and was told that everyone who applied for the last opening will have to reapply in November when the "new system" is put into place. She did not elaborate on what the 'new system' consisted of, just that all of us will have to reapply in NOV.

Assuming this means both the June and July announcements?

[VT04]

Everyone who has applied and not gotten a call will have to reapply

[NCIS_SA]

Everyone who has applied and not gotten a call will have to reapply

That sounds unreasonable, but not impossible. I have not heard anything like that but I can check and let everyone know. I know the agency is facing some big changes in the near future, including Ros' comments about pay banding (actually not a bad thing). The vague comment about a "new system" could also refer to the new applicant process that is supposed to be in development.

I have heard that all existing 1811's were dumped from the pool due to the cherry picking I eluded to in an earlier post, so you may have been talking to one of the uninformed...

If that is a fact, you should reapply. It is a good agency, overall. We do have our problems like everywhere else, but the mission is a good one. I have been treated fairly and I have thoroughly enjoyed living overseas on the G. I've been to over 30 countries that I would never have dreamed of visiting because of this job.

[dotcomer]

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly is pay banding? And are you saying those that are not presently or a prior 1811 have a better chance of getting on with you cherry picking comment?

[MGC750]

Everyone who has applied and not gotten a call will have to reapply

I refuse to believe the above listed quote until I receive an official letter / phone call from NCISHQ telling me it is the case. It seems unreasonable to eject people from the Hiring Pool who have been in the hiring process for 2.5+ years.

I had to update my hiring packet two days ago. If the above quote is true, I would have expected the NCISHQ reply to have been something like, "We don't need to update your packet because you're no longer in the hiring process anyway." Instead, their reply was, "I'll be happy to update your information."

Anything is possible, but I will not stress myself out about a rumor.

[Bearcat357]

Everything you'd want to know about paybanding (and more): http://www.cpms.osd.mil/nsps/

Are you guys there yet...?

It's a really fun system....... :rolleyes:

[weasel3o3]

Everything you'd want to know about paybanding (and more): http://www.cpms.osd.mil/nsps/

I was already somewhat familar with the pay-banding system. But I am interested... is LEAP given in conjunction with paybanding?

[Jarhead1302]

Perhaps the only good thing about pay-banding is that it will scare some of the old timers into retirement and open up some jobs. We are too young to know the difference.

[audi0xpl0de]

Just received this email:

"NCIS has suspended the online application process until November 2008. Your application previously submitted will not be considered and you will be required to reapply via our online application at www.usajobs.com at that time. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Thank you for your interest in employment with NCIS as a Special Agent."

[StateChamp]

Just received this email:

"NCIS has suspended the online application process until November 2008. Your application previously submitted will not be considered and you will be required to reapply via our online application at www.usajobs.com at that time. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Thank you for your interest in employment with NCIS as a Special Agent."

I also just received this. Looks like November like the above posted had mentioned.

[Arewethereyet]

Bearcat...you're back!

[neflcop]

When did you guys apply? I applied back in May and have not received that email or heard anything.

[audi0xpl0de]

You didn't? Maybe this is good news then. I applied under the May announcement too and then again under the latest (June or July). The one I applied to in May says it was forwarded to my FO, while there was no status change for the other one. Maybe those who were forwarded in to the FO will continue. At least a guy can hope.

[Jarhead1302]

I sure hope your right. ;)

[NCIS_SA]

Under the GS system, everyone gets a yearly raise with their step increase, which sucks if the guy next to you is a slacker. Under pay banding, no-loads loose their raise and it is given to the rest of the performers in the pay-pool instead. You end up making money faster under NSPS if you work harder than the guy next to you.

[NCIS_SA]

You didn't? Maybe this is good news then. I applied under the May announcement too and then again under the latest (June or July). The one I applied to in May says it was forwarded to my FO, while there was no status change for the other one. Maybe those who were forwarded in to the FO will continue. At least a guy can hope.

...Still trying to get a solid answer for you all.

It seems that the applicant process has entered into a full tailspin. I am told the written test was challenged as being biased, reviewed by an independent body, and apparently confirmed since it was removed. Nobody seems to know what's going to happen next, or where the cutoff exists in the applicant pipeline. Everyone I know is shrugging their shoulders. This can't last long, since we do have vacancies to be filled, so stick in there. Reach out to your FOs and NCISHQ - let them know you are still motivated but don't expect them to know what's going on until this blows over.

The good news is, if you are currently in the hiring pool (ie: BI done), you are still ok. Next CITP class is in Nov.

[NCIS_SA]

Under the GS system, everyone gets a yearly raise with their step increase, which sucks if the guy next to you is a slacker. Under pay banding, no-loads loose their raise and it is given to the rest of the performers in the pay-pool instead. You end up making money faster under NSPS if you work harder than the guy next to you.

NCIS transfers in November. All pay, leap, locality, stay the same. Pay transition stays the same: GS7 to 9 to 11 to 12 to GS13 equiv in 5 years (if you came in as a GS9, 6 years if you came in as a GS7). The only thing that changes is how you get a raise- it could be more or it could be less than what you were getting under GS. It all depends on your performance reviews and pay pool. For those who come in after the transition, it should be fairly invisible. For the rest of us, it will be painful until it is institutionalized into our agency culture.

[dpd0779]

Got the email today stating I would have to reapply in Nov 08. I applied in Jul.

[Lawman416]

Hey NCIS SA and ROS thanks for all of the good insider info, we really appreciate it. Any word on when the next hiring board will be? I would assume probably Sept or Oct if they are having a class in November but I have not heard. All I heard from my AC is they were talking about a class in Oct or Nov. Thanks

[Bearcat357]

Under the GS system, everyone gets a yearly raise with their step increase, which sucks if the guy next to you is a slacker. Under pay banding, no-loads loose their raise and it is given to the rest of the performers in the pay-pool instead. You end up making money faster under NSPS if you work harder than the guy next to you.

True....BUT.....If the pool you fall in runs out of money, then you are SOL..... Which means you might get a lessor raise than you would have under the GS system.....

Also, your raise is based on the ratings that you help write up and pass onto your boss. If you and/or your boss have issues articulating things....you are screwed.

One of the Inpsectors in our office left and went to Budgeting.....and saw this first hand. We had folks in our Directorate that couldn't articulate why they deserved raises....and didn't get a lot....while folks in our pool (JAG Lawyers) could write things out better and got hefty raises.....

Everyone I work with wants to go to a GS job because of the mess this is....

They ONLY good thing I have seen thus far, is if you are paybanded, you don't have to wait to move.....you can bounce from job to job unlike GS jobs where you have to have a year in grade before you can move....

[Chubs]

The agency: Been here awhile. Former cop/military. This aint exactly police work but it's a pretty cool gig. Plus - $100K+ law enforcement jobs arent around every corner. Expect to move a lot (realistically, every 4 - 5 years) and travel to some pretty cool vacation destinations (including Iraq). Your family better be on board with it.



What did you mean by the statement "this ain't exactly police work"? I don't know any NCIS guys down this way so I was hoping you might could say what your workloads like and what kinds of things you're typically involved in.

[StateChamp]

I heard paybanding sucks because if your superior doesn't like you than you could get screwed on raises. I don't know this from personal experience( I am GS) just from what I heard from others. So is this when "brown nosing" comes into play? :o

[VT04]

I refuse to believe the above listed quote until I receive an official letter / phone call from NCISHQ telling me it is the case. It seems unreasonable to eject people from the Hiring Pool who have been in the hiring process for 2.5+ years.

I had to update my hiring packet two days ago. If the above quote is true, I would have expected the NCISHQ reply to have been something like, "We don't need to update your packet because you're no longer in the hiring process anyway." Instead, their reply was, "I'll be happy to update your information."

Anything is possible, but I will not stress myself out about a rumor.

I wrote EXACTLY what I was told over the phone. I did not ad-lib or distort what the recruiter told me. She didn't know exactly how the process was changing so it is entirely possible that she may have been partly or totally wrong in what she told me. I agree with everyone that it would be extremely screwed up to wipe the slate clean on everyone who has been in the pool for any length of time. For those who think I'm completely full of it pick up the phone and call for yourself - I was just trying to do people a favor and post what I was told. Last time I'll do that.

[MGC750]

I wrote EXACTLY what I was told over the phone. I did not ad-lib or distort what the recruiter told me. She didn't know exactly how the process was changing so it is entirely possible that she may have been partly or totally wrong in what she told me. I agree with everyone that it would be extremely screwed up to wipe the slate clean on everyone who has been in the pool for any length of time. For those who think I'm completely full of it pick up the phone and call for yourself - I was just trying to do people a favor and post what I was told. Last time I'll do that.

I did not intend to insult you and I do not think you are "completely full of it". By your own admission, your source "may have been partly or totally wrong" in what she told you.

I appreciate any information anyone can provide, but I think we all have seen how a bit of fact can be turned into fiction as it is retold; which can lead to mass hysteria. My only point was that I will not get upset about something I have no power over; especially before I hear it from the source.

I truly hope you will continue posting your opinions and any information you learn of. My previous post was not an attack on you.

[VT04]

No worries - I shouldn't have gotten upset about it like I did. It's cool.

[audi0xpl0de]

Just received this email from HR:

"Your application for the Special Agent position previously submitted in May of 2008 is still under review by NCIS Headquarters. Please do not contact the local NCIS Field Office concerning your application as they do not know your status. Once a decision is made you will be notified via e-mail concerning your status. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused and thank you for your continued interest in employment with NCIS."

So I guess those of us who applied in May may still be in the running. Although my status says my application is at the FO, I guess it's back at HQ for now.

[Jarhead1302]

...................

[NCIS_SA]

This whole process is crazy....

Jarhead: Yes. It is crazy - and apparently totally disorganized. I find the whole affair to be very unprofessional, and embarassing to the agency. I hope they unf**k this mess soon.

To those who are applying: I don't blame you if you bail but if you stick it out and get hired, I think you'll like the job for the most part. All 3 field offices I have worked in have been great. Obviously they save ((the best)) for HQ.

[NCIS_SA]

No worries - I shouldn't have gotten upset about it like I did. It's cool.

HAHAHAHAHA Its going to be soooo much fun for someone to have you in the office. Dude, ANYWHERE in law enforcement you will get ragged relentlessly if you show even the slightest hint that something bothers you. Water off a duck's back my friend.:D:D:D:D

[joe1975]

Just received this email from HR:

"Your application for the Special Agent position previously submitted in May of 2008 is still under review by NCIS Headquarters. Please do not contact the local NCIS Field Office concerning your application as they do not know your status. Once a decision is made you will be notified via e-mail concerning your status. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused and thank you for your continued interest in employment with NCIS."

So I guess those of us who applied in May may still be in the running. Although my status says my application is at the FO, I guess it's back at HQ for now.

I am in the same boat. I called the App Coordinator a few days ago and he said my app was never at the FO. There was a "typo" reguarding the reviewed favorable and forwarded to the FO. He said many of the may applicants received that message when in fact there apps never left headquaters. Hope all this gets worked out soon

[audi0xpl0de]

I echo that, although I thought ultimately they would end up at the FO for the board. Who knows how they are going to handle the May applicants, sounds like that is what they are trying to decide now.

[cyber]

Hi everyone. I've been reading for a while, but this is my first post.

Everyone who has applied and not gotten a call will have to reapply

According to my AC, no one who has passed the panel interview will be affected (at least not directly) by the change in the hiring process (i.e. elimination of the test and pre-screen interview).

I don't know how it will affect those who have just applied, it sounded like that was still being ironed out.

On a different note, my AC also mentioned that hiring for FY09 has been cut from ~168 to 98.:(

Has anyone else heard anything about this?

[PocLT]

I received this same email and applied in May,
"Your application for the Special Agent position previously submitted in May of 2008 is still under review by NCIS Headquarters. Please do not contact the local NCIS Field Office concerning your application as they do not know your status. Once a decision is made you will be notified via e-mail concerning your status. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused and thank you for your continued interest in employment with NCIS."

I hadnt checked my status since I applied but now who knows.

[joedirt]

Newbie here....

Just wanted to throw my hat into the NCIS ring. I'm chugging along in the process too, and currently they are conducting my BI. After talking to the investigator it sounds like there are a lot of vacancies for us, however the problem comes down to how many billets are availible at FLETC. It sounds like they can't train enough people fast enough to keep up.

Well...looking forward to hearing from you all.

CIAO,
Joe

[joedirt]

Just heard from the AC today. Looks like packets are being screened now. Hopefully many of us will get a call soon.

Joe

[joedirt]

Hey does anyone know if NCIS deployments are still voluntary? Last year I was told they were using a deployment roster for most of the agents in the field, but that could have changed.

Also, do NCIS deployments seem to be increasing or decreasing? Will this change with the impending new presidential administration?

JD

[audi0xpl0de]

Any word yet on how May applicants are going to proceed?

[NCIS_SA]

It looks like about 50 - 70 FY09 to cover attrition and fill the remaining open billets. Plus, you gotta be a stellar candidate (ie: Documented LE/CI/CT experience, advanced degree, fluency in a DoD tier I language, and overseas experience) just to make it into the hiring pool.

Sorry for the bad news folks.

[joedirt]

O.k... For those of us who do make it. (Positive Atitude)
How soon will the new guys with experiance be able to make a deployment?
Or better yet, how soon could a person transfer to an overseas duty station?

[joedirt]

Have any new subordinate (RA & RU's) offices been established overseas? Particularly in Europe and South America?

JD

[audi0xpl0de]

They are sending out emails today regarding the new system they are developing:

"On November 3, 2008 ARTS, the online job application system for NCIS, will be integrated with the Office of Personnel Management's USAJOBS website. This integration will make it easier and more efficient for you to apply for Federal positions and manage your online applications.

This process will allow you, as an applicant to:

* Create and store up to five resumes online

* Create search agents to receive email notifications for new job postings throughout the government

* Use one login to apply for jobs throughout NCIS and other Federal organizations

* Track the status of jobs you have applied for through USAJOBS in one central location

To prepare for this change and familiarize yourself with the new process, we recommend you create an account on USAJOBS (www.usajobs.opm.gov). If you have not applied for a Federal vacancy posting using USAJOBS, you will need to create a new account, consisting of personal information, user id and password, and at least one Federal resume. If you are already registered in the USAJOBS system you do not need to re-register. Once established, your USAJOBS account will enable you to post multiple resumes online, apply to NCIS jobs as well as other Federal jobs, and receive automated job alerts.

Please be aware that after October 15, 2008, the information you have in ARTS, including your resume, will no longer be available. In addition, New Job listings will no longer be sent from ARTS.

Here are some quick tips on the USAJOBS Registration process (www.usajobs.opm.gov):

Once at USAJOBS, select the MY USAJOBS option and click "Create Account".

1. Establish account information

You will first be prompted to provide contact information, establish user access information and provide citizenship and Veterans' preference information.

After providing this information, you will be taken to your new personal page where you can choose to create a new resume or set up email notification agents to alert you to new jobs posted to USAJOBS.

2. Create and Store a Resume

Follow the instructions to create your new resume on USAJOBS using the Resume Builder provided. The resume builder consists of four steps: Getting Started; Experience; Related Information and Finishing Up. Resumes created on USAJOBS will be centrally stored and can be used to apply for other vacancies within the Federal government. An added benefit: You can store up to 5 resumes on USAJOBS!

Please note: In order to use your current ARTS resume to populate your new USAJOBS resume, you must first retrieve it from ARTS. Your ARTS resume will no longer be available after October 15, 2008.

3. Create a Job Search Agent (Email notification)

USAJOBS allows the creation of up to 10 different search agents to receive email notification of new jobs postings that may be of interest to you. These notifications can be set up to send you job postings available throughout the entire Federal government if you wish.

USAJOBS email notification agent(s) will replace any notification preferences you may have set up in ARTS.

4. Apply for jobs

After establishing your USAJOBS account and creating at least one resume, you are ready to apply for new positions. When you find a job of interest, simply login to USAJOBS and follow the instructions provided in the vacancy announcement to complete the application process!

Additional information on the application process can be found at: http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/firsttimers.asp

Good Luck!"

[joedirt]

Have any new subordinate (RA & RU's) offices been established overseas? Particularly in Europe and South America?

I'm curious if any other new hires are requesting assignment to the CRFO in Brunswick? That sounds like the place to be?

Herd from another source that 100 new hires in FY09 is looking good. For those of us in the top running it looks like this might be our chance.

Good Luck,
JD

[audi0xpl0de]

Looks like the online service is no longer available to check application status. This is the message that now appears:

"The Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) special agent application website is temporarily unavailable.

We apologize for this inconvenience while we undergo integration with USAJOBS to provide you better service in the future. NCIS appreciates your patience during this transition. Please check back soon -- we are scheduled to be back online November 20, 2008."

So I guess it will not be until November 20th until the new announcement opens again. I still hope that those of us who applied in May are still somewhere in the system.

[neflcop]

I hope I am wrong, but its not looking good for us that applied in May.

[audi0xpl0de]

I was thinking the same thing, but why send us an email last month stating we were still in the process and to just wait while they sort things out. We'll see I guess.

[jsbeith]

Have any new subordinate (RA & RU's) offices been established overseas? Particularly in Europe and South America?

I'm curious if any other new hires are requesting assignment to the CRFO in Brunswick? That sounds like the place to be?

Herd from another source that 100 new hires in FY09 is looking good. For those of us in the top running it looks like this might be our chance.

Good Luck,
JD

One of my friends is in charge of the CRFO. He was the SSA at the Gulfport, MS office before going to CRFO. Outstanding guy to work for. High speed low drag.

[joedirt]

Some of you may have seen the discussions on how many Agents NCIS plans to hire FY09. Some say 100 and some say more than 200. Well, I just got a tidbit of information I thought I'd share.

It seems that yes, NCIS needs close to 200 agents to fill in the gaps, however it's a matter of finding space at FLETC to fill in classes. FLETC will only have enough space for 100 +/- seats avilible for CITP. So, NCIS is probably going to bring over as many current 1811's as possible to fill in more SABTP classes. Thats good news for some and bad news for many. I wonder just how many 1811's are trying to switch over?

Dang this is tuff. Hang in there folks! We'll make it or bust.
JD

[StateChamp]

Anyone know when they're going to release the new anouncement in November(beginning, middle, end)?

[audi0xpl0de]

I think the message I got said around November 20th the new system will be ready.

[StateChamp]

Yes, the announcement will come out in November (20th sounds vaguely familiar).

Thanks :)

[PocLT]

anyone see the test posting on usajobs? Its a job post but says test do not apply next to the posting. Must be coming soon

[neflcop]

I saw that too. I guess there getting ready to open it back up.

[TheKansan]

Anyone know when they're going to release the new anouncement in November(beginning, middle, end)?

http://jobsearch.usajobs.gov/getjob.asp?JobID=77154542&AVSDM=2008-11-02+21%3A03%3A03&Logo=0&pg=4&vw=b&jbf522=18**&FedEmp=N&sort=rv&ss=0&brd=3876&FedPub=Y&caller=/series_search.asp

[StateChamp]

Thanks. It is up until the end of the month. :)

http://jobsearch.usajobs.gov/getjob.asp?JobID=77154542&AVSDM=2008-11-02+21%3A03%3A03&Logo=0&pg=4&vw=b&jbf522=18**&FedEmp=N&sort=rv&ss=0&brd=3876&FedPub=Y&caller=/series_search.asp

[jimlv]

is there any ncis special agents that would be able to answer some questions about the job. Pm me i have a lot of questions

[audi0xpl0de]

For those of us who applied in May we have to reapply under this announcement. I didn't think we were going to have to since we received an email last month saying we were still in the process. I just was informed that we would have to in order to be considered. I already got the paperwork started for transcripts to be sent. Can we mail the sf-86? I would think faxing a 40 page document would cause a lot of problems.

[joedirt]

DAAANG!!!

I was hoping to get in there before NSPS started up. Well, still keeping my fingers and toes crossed to hear something before Febuary. Calls have got to be going out soon for an up coming class?

I'm still a rocker through and through!
JD