Physical Fitness

[TheKansan]

I recently started working for a larger sheriff's office here in Kansas and was quite surprised by the number of deputies who are quite a bit overweight. Most deputies here work in the jail, and I'm guessing the physical standards are lower for that reason. Is this an issue at other correctional facilities as well? I should also mention that the majority of deputies are not sworn and have not attended the academy. We do a lot of our training in house.

[fieldtech]

Well you find that everywhere for different reasons, some people never take care of themselves, some, like me, excercise and modify their diet but are still (slightly) overweight because age does play a factor in some, and then you have the people who are able to maintain their fitness and weight levels no matter what they do or eat. And then again, you get some who just dont care.

[JRODF4]

At the prison I work at there are about 10% notably out of shape - 40% in decent shape - 40% in great shape and the final 10% out of shape due to medical reasons.

COULD BE WORSE..

[JMTX]

You're going to see a lot of heavier jailers because in our job brute strength is often more important than endurance or speed (because we're usually working in small areas.)

Personally, I'll take a 300lb fellow with a belly over a 150lb gym rat any day, but I'm a fat-butt, so maybe I'm partial.

I work out an hour a day (weights and cardio) but I love me some food, and I stay about 80lbs overweight.

Don't be judgemental of your less-than-fit coworkers. You will be surprised how strong some of them are, and how much heart they have. The first time they save your rear, you'll get over any negative opinion you may have of them.

[TheKansan]

You're going to see a lot of heavier jailers because in our job brute strength is often more important than endurance or speed (because we're usually working in small areas.)

Personally, I'll take a 300lb fellow with a belly over a 150lb gym rat any day, but I'm a fat-butt, so maybe I'm partial.

I work out an hour a day (weights and cardio) but I love me some food, and I stay about 80lbs overweight.

Don't be judgemental of your less-than-fit coworkers. You will be surprised how strong some of them are, and how much heart they have. The first time they save your rear, you'll get over any negative opinion you may have of them.

I'm not doubting their ability to do the job. Most of the deputies are in decent shape, I just noticed more than I would have expected who are not just big, but extremely large. A couple of guys look like they weighed 350-400 pounds.

[JMTX]

Eh, It just depends on how they carry it. If they're 6ft3, and solid, I'm ok with that.

If they can't walk up their stairs, then yah they have a problem. I'm 5ft3, 200lbs and I think I do my job just fine and actually a bit better than some of my 120lb counterparts.

[Stewie]

Don't be so judgemental first off, remember this you can't teach Lbs in a jail cell. I may not be able to run 5 miles but put me in a tight room and I will introduce you to the 4 brick walls with a smile on my face. :)

[Bass]

Don't be so judgemental first off, remember this you can't teach Lbs in a jail cell. I may not be able to run 5 miles but put me in a tight room and I will introduce you to the 4 brick walls with a smile on my face. :)

That's not you in your avatar is it? :confused:

Just kidding, I know it's a passed around internet image.;)

[JMTX]

Don't be so judgemental first off, remember this you can't teach Lbs in a jail cell. I may not be able to run 5 miles but put me in a tight room and I will introduce you to the 4 brick walls with a smile on my face
Bravo Stewie.

Being lightweight, a fast runner, and agile doesn't count for much in a 6x6 room. Give me a big slab of a man any day.

[froIII]

You also need to remember, JMTX, that blood pressure,blood sugar, and other medical issues that follow us big guys. Im not what I consider to be fat, but I am a big guy that has to watch those issues. And yes I can handle my own in a 6x6 cell, but im working on my conditioning to make sure i dont stroke out if i get in one of those situatons .

[JMTX]

You also need to remember, JMTX, that blood pressure,blood sugar, and other medical issues that follow us big guys. Im not what I consider to be fat, but I am a big guy that has to watch those issues. And yes I can handle my own in a 6x6 cell, but im working on my conditioning to make sure i dont stroke out if i get in one of those situatons .

Eh, those are things that have to do with your whole lifestyle. I'm fat, and I have spectacular blood pressure and no fat-related medical issues. Most "fat" people who have those issues also drink or smoke or don't get enough sleep or don't exercise daily. Weight alone is no indicator of health.

[TheKansan]

Eh, those are things that have to do with your whole lifestyle. I'm fat, and I have spectacular blood pressure and no fat-related medical issues. Most "fat" people who have those issues also drink or smoke or don't get enough sleep or don't exercise daily. Weight alone is no indicator of health.

Keep telling yourself that. You are still young, just wait 10-15 years.

[JRODF4]

Don't be so judgemental first off, remember this you can't teach Lbs in a jail cell. I may not be able to run 5 miles but put me in a tight room and I will introduce you to the 4 brick walls with a smile on my face. :)


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lol

[JMTX]

Keep telling yourself that. You are still young, just wait 10-15 years.


I know lots of over-weight older folks who are still healthy. As long as you exercise daily, don't drink, and don't smoke, you are usually going to be of average health when compared to your skinny counterparts.

There's a difference between being a heavy person and being an unhealthy person.

[TheKansan]

Constant stress on the knees and back are the biggest issues you will begin to notice.

Believe me, I never knew just how out of shape I was until after I lost weight. I always thought I was just fine. I didn't even realize I had high blood pressure, high cholesterol, sleep apnea, etc.

You say there is a difference between being heavy, and being unhealthy, that is true to an extent. The health issues aren't always apparent, and a lot of the time they are cumulative meaning they will hit you later in life.

I don't mean to sound preachy, it's just a lot of what you say are the exact same excuses I used to use to justify my poor eating habits and obesity. I too thought I was active and never smoked or drank alcohol.

[sinned]

Fat/out-of-shape (no, round is not a shape) officers/jailers/deputies will always fall back on the fact that their weight is advantageous. Sure, keep telling yourselves that. Then, when you have go into round two with a subject and you are winded after 30 seconds, you can think about that recovering in the hospital bed.

I have no tolerance for folks in any field of LE that do not take their fitness seriously. I don't care so much that you might get yourself into trouble as a result, but you are counted as a cover unit for ME! Not to mention when your fat *** gets into trouble, now I have to come and bail you out.

[DOCSatTheGunk]

I don't care what anyone says. I'm a BIG Boy and when I tell a con to do something. I don't have to get loud, I don't have to curse, I can point and say "do it now." and it gets done. I don't make locker room speeches, in the console, saying i'm going to do this to that con..I do it. I make my rounds the same as anyone else. I don't even carry a baton. When I walk the corridors I don't move for anyone. They get out of my way. Thats it, so be it. Sure I can lose a few pounds and I'm in the process of getting healthier ( I stopped dipping, walk more, do more physical training) But ask anyone on my housing unit, If I have to move my ***..I'm there and it's go time..

[Stewie]

Fat/out-of-shape (no, round is not a shape) officers/jailers/deputies will always fall back on the fact that their weight is advantageous. Sure, keep telling yourselves that. Then, when you have go into round two with a subject and you are winded after 30 seconds, you can think about that recovering in the hospital bed.

I have no tolerance for folks in any field of LE that do not take their fitness seriously. I don't care so much that you might get yourself into trouble as a result, but you are counted as a cover unit for ME! Not to mention when your fat *** gets into trouble, now I have to come and bail you out.

What happens when that "fat ***" has to bail you're skinny *** out? I might not be in tip top shape climbing walls, but I can hold my own. ALSO in Corrections backup is seconds away, where on the street it can be minutes big difference brother.

[TheKansan]

What happens when that "fat ***" has to bail you're skinny *** out? I might not be in tip top shape climbing walls, but I can hold my own. ALSO in Corrections backup is seconds away, where on the street it can be minutes big difference brother.

I'm no small guy at 225 pounds and 6' tall. You are seeing things as black and white. Either you are obese, or anorexic. I personally am big, but not obese. I can hold my own well enough at 225 pounds and I highly doubt me gaining 100 additional pounds would help me in any way.

[ftlaudcop]

i seen both on my dept, young and chubby even rt outta the academy,
also seen guys i knew 20 yrs ago that were 180 pounds, now pushin 400
in body weight...our jail hired a dept of corrections sgt,,,early 30's
at the 450 mark, we must be hurtin for body's in uniform.....:eek:

[JMTX]

What happens when that "fat ***" has to bail you're skinny *** out? I might not be in tip top shape climbing walls, but I can hold my own. ALSO in Corrections backup is seconds away, where on the street it can be minutes big difference brother.
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Don't bother Stewie...No one is going to take us seriously. We're just big ole fat slugs who rely on the gym rats to bail us out of bad situations.

Seriously, I'm 5ft3, 200lbs and I do my job just fine thank you. Height/weight charts call me obese, but I personally don't think I am. Here, see for yourself!

[TheKansan]

Don't bother Stewie...No one is going to take us seriously. We're just big ole fat slugs who rely on the gym rats to bail us out of bad situations.

Seriously, I'm 5ft3, 200lbs and I do my job just fine thank you. Height/weight charts call me obese, but I personally don't think I am. Here, see for yourself!

Do you really think that losing some weight would be detrimental to your performance on the job? I never said you had to be a twig, I am just concerned with so many deputies where I work being in just dreadful shape. I'm not talking a little overweight like you, I'm talking can barely get up a single flight of stairs without having a heart attack.

You won't even admit that it is a problem, instead you argue that somehow being so out of shape must be useful. Give me a break.

The funny thing is that at AT&T, none of us technicians can weigh more than 325 pounds, and must at least be able to pass the department of transportation physical every year. That is higher physical standards than the sheriff's office.

[JMTX]

I'm talking can barely get up a single flight of stairs without having a heart attack.

You won't even admit that it is a problem,

If they can't walk up their stairs, then yah they have a problem

I'm sorry, now what were you saying?

When you get in a fight, go ahead and call the twig people. No skin off my back. You take the 115lb females and the 170lb males...That just leaves the big boys free to respond when *I* get in a fight, and that's just hunky-dorey with this chubby girl :)

[JMTX]

o you really think that losing some weight would be detrimental to your performance on the job?

I think that everytime I've gone hands on with an inmate, I was glad I was a heavy gal. Now come bikini season, yah I'd rather be smaller...when it comes to my job? In no way do I feel that being *smaller* would benefit me, though I do work out with weights to increase my strength because I do think *that* benefits me.

[TheKansan]

I think that everytime I've gone hands on with an inmate, I was glad I was a heavy gal. Now come bikini season, yah I'd rather be smaller...when it comes to my job? In no way do I feel that being *smaller* would benefit me, though I do work out with weights to increase my strength because I do think *that* benefits me.

Well then gain another 100 pounds, that should help you even more:rolleyes:

[JMTX]

I didn't say that.

I think I'm a good size to do my job...if I was 100lbs skinnier I wouldn't be strong enough, and if I was a 100lbs heavier, I wouldn't be able to get around well enough.

Look, if you want to be a fitness snob, go ahead. I'm not one. To each their own.

[sublimejhn]

Well then gain another 100 pounds, that should help you even more:rolleyes:

I have to agree with everything you are saying here. I really hate how heavier people always seem to think that they are better in a fight because they are fatter. I weight 165lbs. I know for a fact, as I have seen it over and over again, I can bench press more than a LOT of heavier people. I don't get winded when I get into a fight (obviously I generally avoid fights going into LE and all, but it has happened). I never see a fatter person and think, "Oh no, they could take me cause they are fatter." That is ridiculous, in general being fatter does NOT make you stronger and actually makes you WORSE off in a fight. If being fatter was seriously so useful all the UFC fighters would be lardbutts, but they aren't and there is a reason for it. Being fat is a DISADVANTAGE in a fight, unless your only plan is to sit on your opponent.

Now I am not trying to knock anyone on here or anywhere else that is a bit heavier. But statements like "I'll take a 300lb fellow with a belly over a 150lb gym rat any day" are just dumb and suggest that that fat guy is somehow more useful, and if we want to get hired we should throw PT out the window and start eating. Keep telling yourselves that, but that simply isn't true. I'm happy police departments don't actually think that way, it's just a way to justify being out of shape

[sublimejhn]

I didn't say that.

I think I'm a good size to do my job...if I was 100lbs skinnier I wouldn't be strong enough, and if I was a 100lbs heavier, I wouldn't be able to get around well enough.

Look, if you want to be a fitness snob, go ahead. I'm not one. To each their own.

I think this is where you are making the mistake. You suggest dropping 100lbs would make you weaker. That is total crap. We are discussing dropping FAT here, not dropping muscle. Fat in no way adds strength. If you were really concerned with being the best you could at the job, you would start strength training and drop the fat in exchange for muscle. Nobody is being a snob here, he is just pointing out that you have 0 advantages by having more fat than another person. You keep claiming that is is somehow making you stronger. That is not true at all, I don't know who told you that fat adds strength but it is wrong. I just think it's funny when people seriously convince themselves that fatter people are better suited for a physical job like corrections. They aren't, I would like to see ANY evidence that even remotely backs that up.

The big people you see at your job may be really strong, but that's not because of fat, it's because there is clearly some muscle underneath that fat too. That's great, but dropping that fat will only help

[JMTX]

Well #1, I already do strength training. 30 minutes of a weights a day plus 30-60 minutes cardio a day.

Second of all, when you're fighting a 300lb man, you can *not* tell me that it's better to be a 110lbs than 200lbs. I'm sorry, I just don't believe that (with the exception being a 110lb woman who's had extensive martial arts training or something.)

My mother is in good shape for her age (45) and she always has to ask *me* to do physical labor for her (moving hay bales, throwing bags of grain, lifting things, etc) because at 110lbs, she simply doesn't have the stoutness I do.

[Stewie]

I'm 6'0 235lbs yes "overweight" by a paper chart that says I am. However I use my size to my advantage by intimidation, and if they want to fight I'm good at controlling a subject. Would I be better if I lose 40 lbs sure! But I can perform all my duties like anyone else.

So if you think I'm making excuses then think again, I'm happy the way I am now and if I wanna drop down I will do it.

Also if you are not part of Law Enforcement you cannot post here.

[sublimejhn]

*sigh* Both of you are point out that you are good at your jobs/strong/etc. I am not arguing that you are not, nor was the last poster. The only thing I am saying is that is due to whatever MUSCLE you have NOT fat. And that having extra fat is NOT an advantage for you in any way. The only exception I will make is maybe as stewie pointed out, for intimidation purposes. Looking bigger overall can definitely be helpful.

As for the choice between a 110lb person or a 200lb person being able to fight a 300lb man, if seriously the only difference between the 2 people is 90lbs of fat, then I would go with the 110lb person. But I highly doubt that would happen, because if that 200lb person is sitting at over 50% body fat, he would be useless. I promise you wouldn't pick him to win the fight either.

If there is a 200lb person that is all muscle and a 150lb person that is all muscle no crap the 200lb person is more useful. But the claim here was that heavier, regardless of any muscle or not, is better. It isn't. All other physical traits held equal, more fat will only be a disadvantage, and with fat comes absolutely no strength

[JMTX]

Sublime, I'm not disagreeing with that but the officers in this thread are judging people by how large they *look* and you can't tell how much fat a person has just by looking at them though.

Look at my picture I posted....can you guess my body fat percentage from that pic? I know what it is, but I ain't telling ;)

[sublimejhn]

Sublime, I'm not disagreeing with that but the officers in this thread are judging people by how large they *look* and you can't tell how much fat a person has just by looking at them though.

Look at my picture I posted....can you guess my body fat percentage from that pic? I know what it is, but I ain't telling ;)

Ok, I guess I am with you there, you can't tell how in shape someone is by how they look. I guess I was going off mostly you comment on the first page saying you would take a 330lb person over a gym rat any day. I assume a "gym rat" would be fairly muscular, where you seemed like you were just picking the 330lb person off of his weight. Have you actually seen what a 330lb person looks like when they have no muscle?? I HIGHLY doubt you want to pick them over the guy that is hitting up the gym every day!! I guess I just hate when people suggest being bigger is more useful in LE. I am not big, but I know I can hold my own and then some. I'd hate to be passed up for a fat guy that's never worked out in his life!!

I guess I am done responding though, cause I see stewie pointed out it was sworn personnel only here. I didn't notice that when I first posted. Hopefully I'll be able to post here in the very near future I guess!!

[JMTX]

I assume a "gym rat" would be fairly muscular, where you seemed like you were just picking the 330lb person off of his weight. Have you actually seen what a 330lb person looks like when they have no muscle??

To me a "gym rat' is one of those guys who are under 200lbs, have 6pk abs, etc.

And yah, fat or muscle either way, I'll take the 330lb guy. Usually, all they have to do is walk through the door and the inmates scatter.

I speak from experience...there was a time when our emergency response team was just the biggest fellas on the shift...then we switched to a more atheletic type team where they had to meet fitness standards and stuff...I definitely feel the old team got a better overall reaction from the inmates. Just my opinion based on what *I* have seen in *my* facility.

I am not big, but I know I can hold my own and then some. I'd hate to be passed up for a fat guy that's never worked out in his life!!

On a side note, and I know this is *totally* unrelated to the subject really, but I just have a thing for big guys and I will almost always defend them.

[ftlaudcop]

a lot of opinions for sure

in any event in a cell block, pod, or where ever it may be,

just be ready to hand out a ' john wayne style ' bar room brawl a_s_s whippin if need be, if yr cocky and ya ain't got game, your

gonna get your chiclets re arranged with the quickness.

[fieldtech]

When I started with the BOP I was 6'4" and 186, after 10 years I had gone up to 235 and now I'm at 250, and yes I'm trying to get back to 235, when I started gaining weight I actually started working out more so I got stronger along with the heavier weight, and I started being placed as point man on extraction teams so although I was not obese, I do feel the added weight was an advantage to me. One thing I noticed is the added weight is an intimidating factor, besides most fight's last 5 to 7 seconds, so your not in a UCF match, and you dont "sit" on the inmate but you learn to use that extra weight to take down and hold the inmate down while restraints are being placed on him. Personally I would rather work with another C/O that is a little overweight like me than a stick or obese person.

[Bass]

When I still played ball I know that while a smaller "gym rat" (lol) would knock me for a loop when the tag came home. The worst thing for me to see was a good size guy running full speed towards me right before dropping that shoulder. :eek:

If you are big to the point that you can not run to a call and continue the fight then you may want to rethink some things. If you are just a big (over weight) person but can still do the job, that's all I care about.

[JMTX]

Bravo, Bass. That's exactly what I was trying to say!

[Myers5325]

I am a Corrections Officer from Kansas. I am a Sergeant on a Specialized Unit and have been for 7 years. We are the PD inside the fences. When the line staff can't handle it, we are called. When I began my career in 1999 I was 5'11", weighed 170 lbs and was a scrawny little guy. But, I could hold my own with the biggest and best. When I was appointed to the Special Security Team, I began to understand the importance of "getting bigger". I was the smallest (in muscle) than any of the other 18 members. I worked hard and hit the gym religiously in the fall of 2003. When I began lifting I was a scrawny 170 lbs. I worked hard and gained a lot of muscle and size within the next 4 years reaching 230 lbs at my max weight with 26.5% body fat. I gained a tremendous amount of strength in this 4 year period from my beginning days.

However, after about 2 1/2 years of this I began to notice that my blood pressure was getting borderline hypertension, I ran out of breath doing even the simple tasks like tying my boots and I had heartburn that never seemed to go away (even with prescribed meds). I was always so focused on "getting bigger" which meant gaining weight. I told myself that I was a pretty healthy guy. The group of guys I work with always felt the same way. We constantly made jokes when someone attempted to lose weight calling each other scrawny little turds and such.

It wasn't until this January that I decided to live for myself. I decided to go on a cutting cycle which meant an entire lifestyle change for me (and my wife). I hit the gym and continued lifting at least 5 days a week and took my supplements like you are supposed to. I ate my small, clean and healthy meals 6 times a day and added cardio and ab workouts at least 3 days a week. 16 weeks later I was weighing in at 188lbs with 9% body fat. I lost 42 lbs of FAT and lost 17.5% body fat. I still push the same amount of weight (max bench of 385 lbs), gained size and definition in my arms, legs and chest and feel great. My blood pressure is excellent; I haven't had heartburn even once since February and can run a mile in less than 7 minutes at a decent pace. I can fight better (and have been tested on the inside with this), can run faster and can continue to fight when those who don't want to get in shape can't go any further. Trust me, I can dish out a great whippin' when necessary and have more than once.

I'm just saying, I made the excuse that bigger is better even if it's not quality size. I am a firm believer that we must be a step ahead of the inmate population. That means to fight better, longer, harder and maintain a strict physical discipline.

[TheKansan]

To me a "gym rat' is one of those guys who are under 200lbs, have 6pk abs, etc.

And yah, fat or muscle either way, I'll take the 330lb guy. Usually, all they have to do is walk through the door and the inmates scatter.

I speak from experience...there was a time when our emergency response team was just the biggest fellas on the shift...then we switched to a more atheletic type team where they had to meet fitness standards and stuff...I definitely feel the old team got a better overall reaction from the inmates. Just my opinion based on what *I* have seen in *my* facility.



On a side note, and I know this is *totally* unrelated to the subject really, but I just have a thing for big guys and I will almost always defend them.

I'm not trying to attack anyone, I myself struggled for a long time with my weight, and decided a while back that since I would be working in law enforcement, I would stay in the best physical condition possible so I could do the best job possible.

Let's put your theory to the test with pictures. Here is a picture of a 300+ pound guy.

http://www.kirkhamdotcom.org/images/blog/obese.jpg

Now here is a scrawny "Gym Rat" who weighs around 200 pounds.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/500/medium/Vaughn_s_Power_Shoot-255.jpg

Who would you rather have backing you up in a fight?

[Stewie]

That guys 300+lbs? Try 400-450+, and while we are showing the extremes to argue a point let me find a 120 lb bean pole to even it out.

[TheKansan]

That guys 300+lbs? Try 400-450+, and while we are showing the extremes to argue a point let me find a 120 lb bean pole to even it out.

It doesn't matter if he is 400+ according to some people he is better suited for the job based on size alone.

[dharley150]

Ive been following this thread everyday as it applies to me as well but didnt want to post until i got hired, and i just got the call yesterday so i wanted to comment on the pics you put up.

I agree 100% that someone who is obviously un-fit for the job should step back and evaluate, but putting an officer into that group because of a number is the wrong thing to do...Im 6'4" and right now i weigh 328 lbs...so based on your picture of a 300lb guy i look like that?? No, as stewie said that guys is pushin 450. Now my max bench 6 months ago was 480 lbs, and while i may have a touch of a belly, based on my weight your saying im in worse shape to back you up in a fight than a gym rat??

Im going into corrections as a start to LE because its something ive always wanted to do, but i was a very successful Mason Contractor, and ive hired "gym rats" over the years that couldnt put theyre arms down to theyre side due to muscles, but didnt have close to the power that the job sometimes required. From what ive read in these forums and have been told from friends in corrections, same goes for being a CO, power is a big asset to have. I dont think anyone is arguing that the guy in the pic up there may not be suitable for LE, but by generalizing a 300+ lb guy wouild be worse than a 170 lb guy is wrong....i dont think you meant it that way(?), but thats how it sounds.

Example: I remember taping up to box with a friends buddy bout 6 months ago as i had bags set-up in my garage. The guy was dancing around like a damn jumping bean, mouthing off about how fast he was. I simply told him "to just remember, you'll have to hit me 10 times, i need just one"....IMO, it depends on the person and how they can carry themselves.

[JMTX]

I'll take the fat guy Kansas posted. I promise you, he'll look a lot more intimidating IN A UNIFORM than the gym rat will, especially if he carries himself with confidence.

I've worked with guys that large before...I prefer them. Deal with it. You aren't going to change my mind.

[TheKansan]

I'll take the fat guy Kansas posted. I promise you, he'll look a lot more intimidating IN A UNIFORM than the gym rat will, especially if he carries himself with confidence.

I've worked with guys that large before...I prefer them. Deal with it. You aren't going to change my mind.

I don't care if I change your mind, just pointing out why I think your opinion is wrong.

[froIII]

I work in TCCC with JMTX and we really dont have maybe 2 male officers that i feel are out of shape that i work with. I myself have joined a gym and I am trying to lose 40lbs to get back to 225. Im not fat but i feel i need to be in better shape. I havent been in any one on one altercations, but if i were to get into one i would be better off at 225 than i am right now at 265. WHen i was younger i was a competive wrestler and i know that the body wears out rapidly in one on one competition. Cardio is very important, and if your seriuosly working on your cardio (this comment is not aimed at anyone) you will lose weight. right now on my off days i am on a bike 2 hours and on treadmill 30 minutes trying to increase my enduance levels.

[JMTX]

if your seriuosly working on your cardio (this comment is not aimed at anyone) you will lose weight

Depends on how much you eat. I've done 30-60minutes of cardio per day for the last several months and haven't lost a pound.

[midnight_v]

Depends on how much you eat. I've done 30-60minutes of cardio per day for the last several months and haven't lost a pound.

Actually it's not how much you eat, its more what you're eating and in what denominations.
Also, sadly, its harder for women to lose weight in general.

A fight goes to the better fighter, IMO, but overall health is a big part of that.
Believe it or not I weigh 270, but my body fat is low, so not all gym rats are 190 some of them are Incredible hulks.

To the op. There are a lot of weight problems in america in general, its just outlined because we dont' expect it here

[djblank87]

Wrong Section, Sorry Mods.

[srq screw]

i took your advice to become more intimidating and to gain more respect from the inmates. im the guy on the left...



click on the thumbnail to feel the full intimidation.

[Jennick52]

At the agency I work at, I believe I am the largest certified employee. I have worked with one of the smallest males there too. When we had to deal with the inmates, the way they treated him was drastically different they the way they treated me. FYI he is like 5'6" 130 to 150lbs, where as I am 6'7" and close to 370.

Do I consider size a factor in corrections? Yes and no. Do I want to work with someone who can be tossed around like a rag doll by even an average inmate, no. On the other hand, I don't want to work with someone who would take 5 minutes to respond the 5th floor, no. All I want in a co-worker is someone that will, if need be, help me in a use of force or cover my *** if I screw up to bad.

Do I consider myself the good in a fight because of my size? No, I have had my *** handed to me by a Cpl who is much smaller than me, but he also has been training in martial arts for most his life. I have been around long enough to know that size can mean very little in a fight. Knowing what you are doing is much more important.

Only thing that size brings to a fight, is the "oh ****" factor. Most people are much more wary of a person who is bigger than them, than someone who is smaller. Being the size I am, I have been able to quite a situation by my mere presence where a smaller officer could not.

Oh, for being 350+ I can still run a sub 9min mile, not that impressive to the gazelles out there, but I was complemented on it by the Lt of the CRT.

[JMTX]

Actually it's not how much you eat, its more what you're eating and in what denominations.
Also, sadly, its harder for women to lose weight in general.

A fight goes to the better fighter, IMO, but overall health is a big part of that.
Believe it or not I weigh 270, but my body fat is low, so not all gym rats are 190 some of them are Incredible hulks.

To the op. There are a lot of weight problems in america in general, its just outlined because we dont' expect it here


I eat a lot, and most of it is bad for me. I still think it's good for me to exercise anyway though...I see a difference in my energy and blood pressure when I stop exercising regularly. I'm at the point now where I exercise because I know that if I'm going to be heavy, I at least want energy and good BP.

I can't believe you weigh 270...You look way smaller than that...like 200, 210 max.

[midnight_v]

I eat a lot, and most of it is bad for me. I still think it's good for me to exercise anyway though...I see a difference in my energy and blood pressure when I stop exercising regularly. I'm at the point now where I exercise because I know that if I'm going to be heavy, I at least want energy and good BP.

I can't believe you weigh 270...You look way smaller than that...like 200, 210 max.

Thanks... I guess. 210? Seriously! I'd like to get down to that but I fear i'd have to lose an arm. LOL.:p