Environmental Police Officer #8040

[NYJets44288]

Anyone else take the NYC DEP Police Exam today, 6/14/08? Any active dep cops?

[Spec VVV]

WTF... i didnt hear any announcements...


Did you need to be a NYC resident to take the test?

[Taylor13]

What does an environmental cop do?

[darkhelmet]

What does an environmental cop do?

make sure people aren't throwing garbage out their windows.. lol :D

[NYJets44288]

lmao no that's sanitation enforcement. the DEP Police are NYC Officers responsible for the Watershed areas upstate inlcuding the Reservoirs that supply the citizens of NYC. They have a full time ESU, Canine, Detectives, supposedly it's legit but the pay is pretty lame. so instead of making sure you don't throw your garbage out your windows they make sure you don't **** in the reservoir

[NYJets44288]

Also they hire at 20 and only require 30 College Credits and have FULL Police Officer status. You don't have to be an NYC resident to take the exam, but if hired you need to be a resident of NYC or of some upstate counties. NYC residents also get the +5 Points.

[NYCAPO]

Here's some links that have info on the department:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYC_DEP_Police

http://www.bizjournals.com/albany/stories/2005/05/09/daily16.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/investigators&id=4050178

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/investigators&id=6060340

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/investigators&id=3992652

http://www.thechief-leader.com/news/2007/0323/news/018.html

[NYCTNT]

If you took the exam, its a waste of time. They only hire like 30 officers per class and its maybe 1 or 2 classes at most a year.

Sanitation Enforcement are not L/E. Sanitation Police is L/E. Big difference. Like calling Traffic Agents, Traffic Cops.

[Munlaw]

I heard that moral was really low at NYC DEP Police...

Watch this video, http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/investigators&id=6060340 I thought worker's comp. coverage was the law in NYS ?

[gbotj]

the pay is terrible. I believe they start at 26k and go up to $42,000. They just had an announcement for DEP PD Sgt. And starting pay was $47,000 and I think goes to low-mid 50's.


Its a good job to get your foot in the door, personally though State DEC Police is much better. Pay in in the 60's, higher morale, you work out of your home and you take your radio car home. You can live anywhere in NYS and you work anywhere in NYS.

[Jayc6018]

the pay is terrible. I believe they start at 26k and go up to $42,000. They just had an announcement for DEP PD Sgt. And starting pay was $47,000 and I think goes to low-mid 50's.


Its a good job to get your foot in the door, personally though State DEC Police is much better. Pay in in the 60's, higher morale, you work out of your home and you take your radio car home. You can live anywhere in NYS and you work anywhere in NYS.

Yeah but its hard as hell to get that job, I like their rmp's though

[NYJets44288]

Yeah I heard their benefits are supposed to be getting better, plus NYS DEC Police have insane prerequisites for getting the job. I know they only hire a few but I feel like I did well on the test, plus I already have the credits. They also have full police status which makes it transferrable to other upstate departments unlike peace officer status.

[Dave2886]

Can any of you point me in the right direction to find some more specifics out about NYS DEC? Pay scale, hiring prerequisites, and/or anything else about it? My family up there brought the agency to my attention, and it sounds kind of cool....I went on the NYS DEC website, and couldn't really find any specific information that I'm looking for....thanks in advance for any help.

[NYCTNT]

Not DEC but DEP.

You are not going to find much on the website anyway.

The next exam is coming up mid-2009. As far as getting the job, you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning in New York City.

[NYJets44288]

http://www.dec.ny.gov/regulations/391.html

That's got some good info.
Sick Job, Sick Equipment, Take-Home Car (rare here), and work from home.

Anybody familiar with Long Island who knows the Wantagh Parkway, I see them hiding out there all the time. Did I mention Sick Equipment?

[Dave2886]

Okay, after further investigation, I found some decent info on the official website... http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/746.html
Aside from the fact that I'm ineligible because I don't have any environmentally related college credits, I honestly don't think the job is for me...I don't know anything about that stuff, I just like being outdoors and hiking! Guess I'll stick to the concrete jungle where I'm at, and try to survive another 22 years 'till retirement! But for anyone else looking into NYS DEC, the link I posted above has some good info.

[NYCTNT]

Geeez...

DEC is not DEP.

Department of Environmental Conservation is a NEW YORK STATE EXAM.

Department of Envionmental Protection is a NEW YORK CITY EXAM.

2 very different jobs with 2 very different employers.

[Dave2886]

Geeez...

DEC is not DEP.

Department of Environmental Conservation is a NEW YORK STATE EXAM.

Department of Envionmental Protection is a NEW YORK CITY EXAM.

2 very different jobs with 2 very different employers.
Yeah, that's my bad....i was doing some research and found several threads about NYS DEC, but this thread came up too, and before I realized the difference, I had already posted here....sorry....:rolleyes:

[NYCTNT]

Dont appologize to me, I just dont want you to get too excited for the wrong job!.

Dont count on DEC or DEP to call.

A good friend of mine was list number 30 or something, passed through the investigations and everything through NYPD(they do the process), and never heard a thing. Apparently its a "hook" job. No idea why its a hook job but apparently it is.

[NYJets44288]

A hook job? If I had a hook strong enough to get me appointed to anything DEP would be my last idea lol. Not for top pay of 45k and no LODI coverage.

[jerry40]

For those of you interested in NYS ECON Police this website has quite a bit of information:

http://www.nycoa.org/nycoabecominganofficer.htm

[NYCTNT]

A hook job? If I had a hook strong enough to get me appointed to anything DEP would be my last idea lol. Not for top pay of 45k and no LODI coverage.


Yea, but if you live upstate in the sticks, the job works out for someone up there better than us down here.

[NYJets44288]

This is true, up in the boons.

[gbotj]

NYJets, you should take the NYS Park Police exam this fall. I believe filing opens next month.

[Sled]

DEP Police do not get 20 year retirement, I think it is 25 years.

[NYCTNT]

A guy I know that came from DEP to NYPD said its 25.

[NYJets44288]

Yeah that blows, plus I was recently reading online about a 10-13 benefit for a DEP PD Sgt. He was responding to a call for assistance/shots fired from a local PD and slid on the ice into an MVA. Since they don't offer line-of-duty injury his insurance policy fan out and the good old Gov't refused to step in and help. After that, I consider that test practice.

[NYJets44288]

Yeah gbotj, I'm definitely going to take NYSPP, how about you? Whereabouts are you on LI? PM me.

[joe publik]

Just a few of facts.

DEP is not a hook job.
25 year retirement.
The Sgt. who was hurt is still out of work. He did get Comp after ABC 7 aired his ordeal. NYC was put on the spot.
They are in the process of hiring. Not enough people have had there complete package ready from there investigators to start a new acadamy yet.

[bam987]

Does anyone know how long the medicals are for dep Police now? Being that not that many people are processing Nypd now? Is the Dep Academy class full?

[bam987]

Any word on the next academy???

[NYJets44288]

December 1st and August 1st

[joe publik]

December 8th is tentative. August is looking to far ahead in DEP's plans. You should be interviewed the Friday before the acadamy starts. Some already have and are working dispatch until it starts. Good luck.

[bam987]

December 8th is tentative. August is looking to far ahead in DEP's plans. You should be interviewed the Friday before the acadamy starts. Some already have and are working dispatch until it starts. Good luck.

Really... interesting.... I wonder if they have enough guys for the academy? WHo does the last interview? NYPD?

[NYCTNT]

Just for everyones information... if you were not called for the DEP mini-medical which occured yesterday at 1 Lefrak Plaza(16th floor), you are probably not going to make it into any academy.

[joe publik]

DEP does the interview. I beleive the number they want to hire is in the mid 30's. They probably will get that many people, since there has been a hiring freeze everywhere else. Remember, the acadamy is in Kingston.

[bam987]

Just for everyones information... if you were not called for the DEP mini-medical which occured yesterday at 1 Lefrak Plaza(16th floor), you are probably not going to make it into any academy.

Yea I was there. Funny I got to leave early because I was there two months previously doing the NYPD medical. They took hair samples but no urine!

[Jayc6018]

There's a recruit in my academy class now who left DEP. She said the moral is low and pay sucks.

[bam987]

There's a recruit in my academy class now who left DEP. She said the moral is low and pay sucks.

Your job is a home run! I'm just trying to put my foot in the door. There's hardly any other agency hiring right now!

[NYCAPO]

There's a recruit in my academy class now who left DEP. She said the moral is low and pay sucks.

I don't know if this is still accurate, but the salary is listed here.

http://www.thechief-leader.com/news/2007/0323/news/018.html

"The starting salary for DEP cops is $25,631 for their first 26 weeks in training, at which point it goes to $29,405. The pay rises to $30,355 after one year, but the maximum salary is $44,742 for officers after six years on the job."

[joe publik]

The pay scale is correct for the most part. It takes 6 1/2 years to top out. Every year is a pay bump. Most officers will work lots of overtime to make up for the lowpay.

[bam987]

The pay scale is correct for the most part. It takes 6 1/2 years to top out. Every year is a pay bump. Most officers will work lots of overtime to make up for the lowpay.

Is there still a lot of overtime available?

[joe publik]

It Depends on the Command. Does 500+ hrs a year sound good? Some commanders give OT based on siniority. Others equilize the hours. There are not enough officers and shifts need to be filled. So, OT is availible by the ton at most places.

[bam987]

It Depends on the Command. Does 500+ hrs a year sound good? Some commanders give OT based on siniority. Others equilize the hours. There are not enough officers and shifts need to be filled. So, OT is availible by the ton at most places.

Is it possible to get the yonkers or valhalal command straight out the academy?

[joe publik]

You will mostlikely get stationed where you want. You will do lots of fixed post at those commands (4 out of 5 shifts). If you choose a West of Hudson command, you will not see any fixed posts. However, if a decent size academy goes through, then the fixed post ratio will drop.

[bam987]

How's there RDO sytstem and how many vacation days do you get per year?

[ArkansasFan24]

Hi. Guy from Arkansas here. I stumbled upon your thread, and after watching tv for years I have a few questions listed below.

1. How many different police agencies are in operation in and around NYC other than NYPD?

2. Also, is NYC not encompassed within some county?

Thanks New Yorkers ;)

[bxhousing]

In and around NYC? It depends on how you define "police agencies." The short answer is: many. There could be a separate and very long thread on this topic alone.

New York City is five counties: New York, Queens, Kings, Bronx, and Richmond counties.

[NYCAPO]

Hi. Guy from Arkansas here. I stumbled upon your thread, and after watching tv for years I have a few questions listed below.

1. How many different police agencies are in operation in and around NYC other than NYPD?

2. Also, is NYC not encompassed within some county?

Thanks New Yorkers ;)

Combining both government and private agencies, I would estimate about 25-30 agencies operate in NYC.

You can get a detailed list of them here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_agencies_in_New_York

[ArkansasFan24]

Thanks, guys. Apparently there are a lot of them. I'm guessing each entity has specialized authority to enforce solely what their agency deals with. I'm guessing the guys on Animal Cops can only enforce the animal laws, yet you all seem to have the same uniforms, patches, etc. Cool enough.

I've read that traditionally sheriff's offices in that part of the country don't actively patrol and perform field law enforcement as they do down here. I did see them in the list though.

[joe publik]

RDO's are consistant. I have Wed/Thurs days off. you have an 8 hour shift each day. The bosses like to keep it simple.

Ark...
Upstate county SO's have patrols.
DEP enforces all laws within the city (thanks to Guiliani) and 9 upstate counties. However, responding to calls is frowned upon.

[NYCAPO]

Thanks, guys. Apparently there are a lot of them. I'm guessing each entity has specialized authority to enforce solely what their agency deals with. I'm guessing the guys on Animal Cops can only enforce the animal laws, yet you all seem to have the same uniforms, patches, etc. Cool enough.

I've read that traditionally sheriff's offices in that part of the country don't actively patrol and perform field law enforcement as they do down here. I did see them in the list though.

Your somewhat right. Each agency does have specific duties for its officers, and they are assigned to certain locations, however peace officers and police officers can act on anything while in their jurisdiction. For example, lets say ASPCA officers are driving down the street in their patrol car and they witness a fight. Since they are peace officers, they can stop, break up the fight, and arrest the people fighting. Although their agency handles animal related calls and enforces animal related laws, their peace officer status allows them to take action. For another example, lets use NYC Deputy Sheriffs. Lets say a Deputy is driving down the street in his patrol car and witnesses a car run a red light. That Deputy can make a car stop and write that vehicle a summons. Despite the fact that their agency handles civil law enforcement, their peace officer status allows them to take action.

About NYC Deputy Sheriffs, they do have marked police cars and do have a patrol unit.

Patrol Unit

"Deputy Sheriffs assigned to this unit perform patrol functions, searching the city streets with court mandates in order to seize vehicles for unpaid parking and moving violations, and issuing summons to vehicles in violation of New York City traffic ordinances and New York State Vehicle and Traffic Laws. This unit provides a law enforcement presence on the city streets, and the public calls upon them to help preserve order. This assistance can include: summoning emergency medical service; preventing and terminating robberies, assaults and thefts; and any other peacekeeping function necessary to maintain law and order."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Sheriff%27s_Office

[ArkansasFan24]

Cool. You guys are informative. Thanks. Now the next time I see or hear about some of these agencies I'll know how it works. I did wonder about the ASPCA guys since they're on tv, and occassionally based on the age of the show I'll hear about say transit or housing authority officers and always the port authority. Thanks again, guys.

[bam987]

RDO's are consistant. I have Wed/Thurs days off. you have an 8 hour shift each day. The bosses like to keep it simple.

Ark...
Upstate county SO's have patrols.
DEP enforces all laws within the city (thanks to Guiliani) and 9 upstate counties. However, responding to calls is frowned upon.

I hear guys carpool from valhalla to the academy? Sorry for all the questions lol! Were you able to pick your tour or was it selected for you? How's the benefits package? Is there some kind of action or just water shed watching all day which I don't mind.

[joe publik]

The guys who commuted left from Hillview Pct. (Yonkers Raceway). I guess after a couple of days, you will dicide where to meet up. As a rookie, you get the scraps for tours. The benifits are good medical (city) ok dental (union) horrible scrips (union). Retirement is 26 years or age 57. This would change if we got uniformed status.

As for action: It depends on where you are. If you are up in Delaware County, you may see nothing for weeks and then have to hunt for someone who shoots a cop. Down state can be good, but you will be on fixed post most of the time. The areas that we cover are large, so you can find something to do to keep you active.

[bam987]

The guys who commuted left from Hillview Pct. (Yonkers Raceway). I guess after a couple of days, you will dicide where to meet up. As a rookie, you get the scraps for tours. The benifits are good medical (city) ok dental (union) horrible scrips (union). Retirement is 26 years or age 57. This would change if we got uniformed status.

As for action: It depends on where you are. If you are up in Delaware County, you may see nothing for weeks and then have to hunt for someone who shoots a cop. Down state can be good, but you will be on fixed post most of the time. The areas that we cover are large, so you can find something to do to keep you active.

Not bad! If guys were to carpool from Hillview dat would be a complete home run! I can literally see that precinct from my house its less than a five minute drive! If I were to get on I would want that precinct! What do you mean by not having uniform status?

[NYCTNT]

Collective bargaining status is what he means.

[bam987]

Could you lateral your time to NYPD? I know you have to do the academy over but can you carry over money from your pention to NYPD?

[joe publik]

Good luck to those who are on there interviews today. Sucks that most will be driving back home in the snow. Academy is Scheduled for Jan 5th. More interviews will be done by then when packages are complete.

[joe publik]

New test.

http://nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/pdf/noes/200808323000.pdf

The academy for those who made it from 8040 will start on Monday. If you didn't have all the required paperwork in on time, they will most likely call you for the next acadamy.

[krash131]

New test.

http://nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/pdf/noes/200808323000.pdf

The academy for those who made it from 8040 will start on Monday. If you didn't have all the required paperwork in on time, they will most likely call you for the next acadamy.

Looks like according to the NOE it will be computerized, That'd be nice because then you'd know your score right there, guess i gotta plan an early trip back to NY