NYPD IMPACT? How exactly does it work?

[bam987]

Say I graduate from the NYPD academy. I put on my wishlist 45pct which is a "C" precint and is not impact. Do I still have to do impact? I dont understand it. Somebody explain. Thanks guys!

[PTLovesMe81]

Say I graduate from the NYPD academy. I put on my wishlist 45pct which is a "C" precint and is not impact. Do I still have to do impact? I dont understand it. Somebody explain. Thanks guys!

You sort of answered the question yourself when you said you put the 045 pct on your wishlist. It is exactly that, a wish list. That name got coined because almost NO ONE gets the commands they request unless they have a hook/crane/rabbi or they are a company sgt.

Next, you don't put precincts on your wish lists, you put Patrol Boroughs. So if you wanted the 045, you would pick Patrol Borough Bronx and thats as detailed as you can get unless you are the Company Sgt. They are the only ones who get to request commands.

The last class went to IMPACT after their Academy. Supposedly, no one got out of it a all. I would assume you are most likely to go to impact again. The odds of you getting out of the Academy and going to a C house are less than slim to none.

[John2008]

You sort of answered the question yourself when you said you put the 045 pct on your wishlist. It is exactly that, a wish list. That name got coined because almost NO ONE gets the commands they request unless they have a hook/crane/rabbi or they are a company sgt.

Next, you don't put precincts on your wish lists, you put Patrol Boroughs. So if you wanted the 045, you would pick Patrol Borough Bronx and thats as detailed as you can get unless you are the Company Sgt. They are the only ones who get to request commands.

The last class went to IMPACT after their Academy. Supposedly, no one got out of it a all. I would assume you are most likely to go to impact again. The odds of you getting out of the Academy and going to a C house are less than slim to none.

co-signs.

Most of the new recruits that graduate go to Brooklyn north and all those other high crime areas, some go into transit, and so on, but most go into impact, Also you can expect to be in a impact zone for more than 1year, I have a close friend and others that have been in impact for Brooklyn north for 2years. but then again anything can happen if you have hooks, I have another friend that has a very very good hook and he was sent to midtown transit.

[NYCTNT]

Apparently the last few classes had to choose 2 BOROS, 2 TRANSIT and 2 HOUSING DISTRICS on their sheets.

In any order you want, but its strictly by BORO, PSA's and DISTRICTS now.

If a PCT is deemed an IMPACT pct then you will be on an impact post. If its NOT then you are FTU(Field Training).

[PTLovesMe81]

Apparently the last few classes had to choose 2 BOROS, 2 TRANSIT and 2 HOUSING DISTRICS on their sheets.

In any order you want, but its strictly by BORO, PSA's and DISTRICTS now.

If a PCT is deemed an IMPACT pct then you will be on an impact post. If its NOT then you are FTU(Field Training).

Correct, It gives you 8 patrol boroughs, the transit districts, and the housing boroughs (I am not sure how this was split apart) and then it gave you fill ins 1-6. You had to choose 2 of each, and rate them in order.

Everyone I met that used to be housing since I got into the academy said housing is the best kept secret of the NYPD, but still I don't think anyone put it anywhere less than 5-6 on their dream sheets.

[BklynsFinest347]

Guy, you're more than likely going to one of these commands:

Brooklyn North (73,75,77,79)
Brooklyn South (67,70,71)
Queens South (101,103)
Manhattan North (30,32)
Bronx (44,46,48)

or a Boro IRT (Instant Response Team)

A-houses for you bro!! You're gonna learn pretty quick there rather than going to a C-house. Good luck.

[darkhelmet]

would knowing a detective be an example of a good hook or do you really ned to know a captain or someone high up.

[BklynsFinest347]

would knowing a detective be an example of a good hook or do you really ned to know a captain or someone high up.

I know a captain & wanted to go to the 60 for some odd reason back then. Guess where I went? The the big bad 67, and I love it out here lol. Real tight A-house w/ bosses & cops who look out for you...

[darkhelmet]

thanks.. you didnt really answer my question tho haha :)

[BklynsFinest347]

thanks.. you didnt really answer my question tho haha :)

Somebody higher up I guess. My hook didn't work for me & I don't have any hard feelings toward him. I'm glad I'm where I'm at because I'm learning a lot out here & I have great people that I work with. I believe that in the end, it all rests on where the Dept needs people the most.

[Back to NYC]

Most current NYPD MOS I know say that you'd better know a Deputy Inspector or higher if you want to have a "hook" coming out of the Academy. It used to be that knowing a Lieutenant could be enough to get you your choice of patrol assignment out of the Academy, but these days, no good.

This is the advice I've been given numerous times in the last few months, and I think it's probably pretty good: save your hook. If you've got a hook, use it after you're done with probation and you're trying to get into a specialized unit. One patrol boro isn't all that much different from another, so why use your hook on going to one instead of another? Makes sense to me.

[John2008]

I want queens south, I hope I get it. That's going to be my number one choice on my "dream sheet"

[darkhelmet]

A family member of mine is a detective in queens south.. actually queens south central.. but according to back to NYC, i should probably save my hook.

[PTLovesMe81]

A family member of mine is a detective in queens south.. actually queens south central.. but according to back to NYC, i should probably save my hook.

You will learn this in the Academy but a detective is a special distinction and they are not above a police officer. A detective won't do too well for you as a hook, especially getting out of the police academy.

The instructors said there are people in the last class that had hooks as high as full birds who didnt get commands they wanted. It seems as if this is the first time that happened according to them though. Who knows.

[darkhelmet]

who do i need to know.. the mayor? Is it possible to get promoted without knowing someone high?

[PTLovesMe81]

who do i need to know.. the mayor? Is it possible to get promoted without knowing someone high?

Haha the mayor MIGHT be able to get you into a B house, not a C house though. :)

Just kidding, in all honesty just get through the Academy. When you get out be respecful to everyone and do your job. That is when you get to know your real hooks. Your patrol supervisor when you are a rookie may be a lieutenant in a year. Now by the time you have 4 years in he is a Captain and has his own command. Lets say he liked you, now he wants you in his command and he pulls you in. You can make your own hooks by doing good work, being respectful, and working hard.

Or you can just know the mayor if that is easier :)

[John2008]

so do I have a decent chance of getting queens south? 103 or 101?

[darkhelmet]

you have a good chance of going to brownsville

[John2008]

you have a good chance of going to brownsville

I'm trying to avoid getting BK, because the commute there would be horrible. But if they put me there it is what it is.

[darkhelmet]

i was being facetious..I would also prefer queens as well.. its seems like no matter the time of the day there is ALWAYS traffic going into BK. From what ive been reading it seems like requesting a place is almost pointelss as they will put you where ever they want anyway

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

brownsville is lots of fun...and there is like a billion cops wondering around the place so if u get into and 85 help will come real fast

[BklynsFinest347]

I'm trying to avoid getting BK, because the commute there would be horrible. But if they put me there it is what it is.

An old company mate of mine from the academy lives in Woodside, Queens & got the 70 in Flatbush, BK. Commute is horrible for him, but he loves it out there. I see him from time to time whether he's getting gas at my command or I see him at AAB (traffic court).

[AnyPD]

would knowing a detective be an example of a good hook or do you really ned to know a captain or someone high up.

It depends, he might have done a favor for a Capt or DI. Its all about who you know NOT what you know!!!

[darkhelmet]

It depends, he might have done a favor for a Capt or DI. Its all about who you know NOT what you know!!!

so you are telling me I can be the best cop in the world and work my butt off but if i don't know anybody I have no shot at promotion?

[John2008]

so you are telling me I can be the best cop in the world and work my butt off but if i don't know anybody I have no shot at promotion?

You don't need to have a hook going in, but if you can play the politic game very well while working you can have plenty of hooks, and also not all promotions are based on who you know since for example to be promoted to sgt you have to score pretty high on the sgt test.

[bam987]

Thank you everyone for this information. The BORO IRT seems pretty cool....

[darkhelmet]

so i gotta kiss a lot of butt eh? im a likeable person and I make friends easily so we shall see how far that gets me...

[John2008]

so i gotta kiss a lot of butt eh? im a likeable person and I make friends easily so we shall see how far that gets me...

You can play the politics game w/o doing a lot of brown nosing. I just want queens south straight out the academy. lol.

[Army2PD]

I know that these may sound like dumb questions, however I was tought in the military the only dumb questions are the ones that are not asked . when you are working Impact , where do you park your car ? Are you given a locker at the local pct ? Are you allowed to use the pct gym ( hey the perps work out why cant you?)

[the_sh0w]

no no, these r not dumb q's, good q's, i would like to know too.

[John2008]

I know that these may sound like dumb questions, however I was tought in the military the only dumb questions are the ones that are not asked . when you are working Impact , where do you park your car ? Are you given a locker at the local pct ? Are you allowed to use the pct gym ( hey the perps work out why cant you?)

I could be wrong but one of the guys can correct me, when you're working impact you will most likely work for the borough for example queens south,brooklyn north and so on, and you will all meet at one specific location which you park there and they have lockers and all that stuff.
after you all meet you'll be assigned your patrol post for the day and if its really far and if they can, they will put all of you in a van and drop you guys and gals off at your post and if not you will have to use public transportation. After a certain amount of time you'll be assigned to a precinct but like I said I know people that have been in impact zones for 2years.

[NYCTNT]

No, thats IRT.

Impact is a pct command.

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

if you go to an impact pct and not a impact response team you will be able to park at your pct, you will be asigned a locker u may have to double or triple up till more lockers can be freed up and you can use the pct gym u will just have to pay like everyone else in the command

[bam987]

Let's see if I have it lol!

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Example :I graduate from the academy. I am assinged to a busy precint in the bronx let's say 46 pct which is an impact pct. Im not in a squad so I dont have a patrol car or a steady partner. The sgt assigns all the rookies to impact posts all over the confines of the 46 for next 1.5 year or so. After that we (rookies) are all put into squads. Correct if I'm wrong please!

[bam987]

Any chance after a few months on impact the sgt could throw you in a sector car for day or 2

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

depends remeber this job is about senority so anyone with more time on in your impact squad is gonna see a car alot more then u

[NYCTNT]

1.5yrs????? Where do you guys get your info from?

Do what you gotta do, do your job and do it well, you will see a sector in no time. Heres the keys, KID.

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

bro i got about 8 people in my squad that have 1.5 years on

[John2008]

I know two people that have been on impact zone for 2years.

[wpaterno]

There could be alot of reasons why people are on impact posts for a prolonged period of time.

[darkhelmet]

im sorry.. im not a police officer yet so im a little ignorant.. what is an impact zone?

[John2008]

im sorry.. im not a police officer yet so im a little ignorant.. what is an impact zone?

An Impact zone, is a Area with a high crime rate in which new cops get sent into to show a uniform presence and look for crime and try to lower the crime rate for the period that they're there. so since I'm going in the academy in july I'll be doing impact zones in Jan 09 until who knows.

[John2008]

There could be alot of reasons why people are on impact posts for a prolonged period of time.

One of the main reason is that they don't have enough people coming out of the academy to move the older people out into pct and just keep the new as impact.

[darkhelmet]

An Impact zone, is a Area with a high crime rate in which new cops get sent into to show a uniform presence and look for crime and try to lower the crime rate for the period that they're there. so since I'm going in the academy in july I'll be doing impact zones in Jan 09 until who knows.

ill be joining you hopefully.. maybe i will be in same zone as u.. or maybe even same academy class...

[bklynbob]

The best thing about impact is that you will become a master at summons writing and aggravating yhe public.The downside is you will have virtually no understanding/training in real police work.

[John2008]

ill be joining you hopefully.. maybe i will be in same zone as u.. or maybe even same academy class...

how's the process for July coming along?
and there's a good chance most of us will end up in the same zone since a large % of new officer go to BK north.

[John2008]

The best thing about impact is that you will become a master at summons writing and aggravating yhe public.The downside is you will have virtually no understanding/training in real police work.

but isn't like that every where you go within the NYPD, since you don't even get a real FTO and you're thrown out there to figure **** out by yourself on the streets.

[darkhelmet]

how's the process for July coming along?
and there's a good chance most of us will end up in the same zone since a large % of new officer go to BK north.

the only thing i have left is to meet with my BI which is this thursday.. im a little nervous but I guess that's natural.. I wont know if i get accepted until July right?

[darkhelmet]

i actually have a question about that packet.. do they really need all the numbers and address' of my family members.. What i mean is I dont know my uncles cell phone or my cousins.. and do not know their work numbers either.. I rarly talk to them.. If i can give names and any info i kno wis that good enough or should it be completly filled out? Are Background investigators usually tough when it comes to things the packet? I dont want to have to go to Brooklyn twice.. im trying to get this all done in one shot

[John2008]

i actually have a question about that packet.. do they really need all the numbers and address' of my family members.. What i mean is I dont know my uncles cell phone or my cousins.. and do not know their work numbers either.. I rarly talk to them.. If i can give names and any info i kno wis that good enough or should it be completly filled out? Are Background investigators usually tough when it comes to things the packet? I dont want to have to go to Brooklyn twice.. im trying to get this all done in one shot

I only listed immediate family and family members that are close to me.

[tito1984]

i actually have a question about that packet.. do they really need all the numbers and address' of my family members.. What i mean is I dont know my uncles cell phone or my cousins.. and do not know their work numbers either.. I rarly talk to them.. If i can give names and any info i kno wis that good enough or should it be completly filled out? Are Background investigators usually tough when it comes to things the packet? I dont want to have to go to Brooklyn twice.. im trying to get this all done in one shot

I only listed family members who are close to me with their addresses, my BI stated I could just fill in the towns they live in for the people I did not know.

[darkhelmet]

I only listed family members who are close to me with their addresses, my BI stated I could just fill in the towns they live in for the people I did not know.

what about references... I have a NYS assemblyman who is a friend of the family but i do not have his home address or his cell phone.. is that acceptable?

[John2008]

what about references... I have a NYS assemblyman who is a friend of the family but i do not have his home address or his cell phone.. is that acceptable?

naw,put people down that really know you and that you know all your info. Lets say your BI calls the assemblyman and your BI says do you know John doe and the assemblyman goes John Doe who?

[darkhelmet]

naw,put people down that really know you and that you know all your info. Lets say your BI calls the assemblyman and your BI says do you know John doe and the assemblyman goes John Doe who?

no he knows me and i worked with him... I just dont have some of his personal info thats all... i guess your right.. seems a little odd that hes a friend and i dont have all his info....

If someone is retired should i put retired on the application.. (i apologize for all these question I just wanna make sure I do this all correctly.)

[John2008]

no he knows me and i worked with him... I just dont have some of his personal info thats all... i guess your right.. seems a little odd that hes a friend and i dont have all his info....

If someone is retired should i put retired on the application.. (i apologize for all these question I just wanna make sure I do this all correctly.)

sure, I listed 4cops as references since they're all part of the crew and we've know each other since middle school.

[darkhelmet]

sure, I listed 4cops as references since they're all part of the crew and we've know each other since middle school.

i have a friend in the academy now.. i guess i just put 1 police plaza etc... and for retired people ill put retired.. i guess i will find out if that is acceptable soon enough

[John2008]

i have a friend in the academy now.. i guess i just put 1 police plaza etc... and for retired people ill put retired.. i guess i will find out if that is acceptable soon enough

why put down 1pp?. I just listed their cell phone # and home addresses.

[darkhelmet]

why put down 1pp?. I just listed their cell phone # and home addresses.

it asks for work address.. i dunno haha i was tryingto be thorough

[jimmiceman]

Say I graduate from the NYPD academy. I put on my wishlist 45pct which is a "C" precint and is not impact. Do I still have to do impact? I dont understand it. Somebody explain. Thanks guys!

No offense but I think your wanting to put in for a "C" precinct says it all.

[bam987]

No offense but I think your wanting to put in for a "C" precinct says it all.

The only reason why I said I wanted to go to a"C" precint is becasue I did not want to be on a foot post for two years like many people say. I made a thread so I can hear expert opinion from many guys OTJ. Many people tell me stay away from "A" houses you are going to be a slave to the radio with no meals. I dont know if that's true. Im open to ALL opinions and advice from people OTJ or people who know people OTJ... Thanks for your feedback!!!!

[darkhelmet]

im sorry again i claim ignorance.. what is an a house b house and c house? is there a W house.. if it means "whore house" can i request to be stationed there? lol :)

[BklynsFinest347]

The only reason why I said I wanted to go to a"C" precint is becasue I did not want to be on a foot post for two years like many people say. I made a thread so I can hear expert opinion from many guys OTJ. Many people tell me stay away from "A" houses you are going to be a slave to the radio with no meals. I dont know if that's true. Im open to ALL opinions and advice from people OTJ or people who know people OTJ... Thanks for your feedback!!!!

ARE YOU SERIOUS!? You don't want to be on a foot post or be a slave to the radio w/ no meals? Guess what, you're learning the job! WELCOME TO THE NYPD! Meal is a privilege, you're not entitled to one. When you're holding 8 jobs upon turnout in the middle of summer (and they're priorities such as shots fireds, gun runs, 34's, 30's, etc), and it doesn't stop until you go end of tour, you're gonna figure it out REAL fast. It's gonna happen whether you like it or not. You can't be lazy doing this job. They're cops & bosses who were "taken care of" by going to cozy commands for almost their whole career & when they get flown to a detail in an A-house (example: Labor Day/Jouvay in the 67 & 71) or get transferred to an A-house, pardon my French but they're scared shyteless in doing anything. If you work in an A-house long enough NOBODY, especially someone from a soft command, can't tell you nothing about policing because they probably didn't see half the things that happens in an A-house, happening in a C-house.

Those people telling you to stay away from A-houses are lazy hairbags who shyte-can jobs & do half-assed paperwork. Don't let those people's beliefs & actions suck you in because you'll eventually turn into one of them, and I'm sure you wouldn't want that to happen...

[gbotj]

Its called paying your dues.
Enjoy your career as a do-nothing!

[darkhelmet]

ARE YOU SERIOUS!? You don't want to be on a foot post or be a slave to the radio w/ no meals? Guess what, you're learning the job! WELCOME TO THE NYPD! Meal is a privilege, you're not entitled to one. When you're holding 8 jobs upon turnout in the middle of summer (and they're priorities such as shots fireds, gun runs, 34's, 30's, etc), and it doesn't stop until you go end of tour, you're gonna figure it out REAL fast. It's gonna happen whether you like it or not. You can't be lazy doing this job. They're cops & bosses who were "taken care of" by going to cozy commands for almost their whole career & when they get flown to a detail in an A-house (example: Labor Day/Jouvay in the 67 & 71) or get transferred to an A-house, pardon my French but they're scared shyteless in doing anything. If you work in an A-house long enough NOBODY, especially someone from a soft command, can't tell you nothing about policing because they probably didn't see half the things that happens in an A-house, happening in a C-house.

Those people telling you to stay away from A-houses are lazy hairbags who shyte-can jobs & do half-assed paperwork. Don't let those people's beliefs & actions suck you in because you'll eventually turn into one of them, and I'm sure you wouldn't want that to happen...

brooklyn you are partially incorrect this time...

According to NYS law meals are required by anyone working over 6 hours.

Section 162 of the New York State Labor Law provides as follows:

"Every person employed in or in connection with a factory shall be allowed at least sixty minutes for the noonday meal.

Every person employed in or in connection with a mercantile or other establishment or occupation coming under the provisions of this chapter shall be allowed at least thirty minutes for the noonday meal, except as in this chapter otherwise provided. The noon day meal period is recognized as extending from eleven o'clock in the morning to two o'clock in the afternoon. An employee who works a shift of more than six hours which extends over the noonday meal period is entitled to at least thirty minutes off within that period for the meal period.

Every person employed for a period or shift starting before eleven o'clock in the morning and continuing later than seven o'clock in the evening shall be allowed an additional meal period of at least twenty minutes between five and seven o'clock in the evening.

Every person employed for a period or shift of more than six hours starting between the hours of one o'clock in the afternoon and six o'clock in the morning, shall be allowed at least sixty minutes for a meal period when employed in or in connection with a factory, and forty-five minutes for a meal period when employed in or in connection with a mercantile or other establishment or occupation coming under the provision of this chapter, at a time midway between the beginning and end of such employment.

The commissioner may permit a shorter time to be fixed for meal periods than hereinbefore provided. The permit therefore shall be in writing and shall be kept conspicuously posted in the main entrance of the establishment. Such permit may be revoked at any time.

In administering this statute, the Department applies the following interpretations and guidelines:

Employee Coverage. Section 162 applies to every "person" in any establishment or occupation covered by the Labor Law. Accordingly, all categories of workers are covered, including white collar management staff.

Shorter Meal Periods. The Department will permit a shorter meal period of not less than 30 minutes as a matter of course, without application by the employer, so long as there is no indication of hardship to employees. A meal period of not less than 20 minutes will be permitted only in special or unusual cases after investigation and issuance of a special permit.

One Employee Shift. In some instances where only one person is on duty or is the only one in a specific occupation, it is customary for the employee to eat on the job without being relieved. The Department of Labor will accept these special situations as compliance with Section 162 where the employee voluntarily consents to the arrangements. However, an uninterrupted meal period must be afforded to every employee who requests this from an employer."

[bam987]

ARE YOU SERIOUS!? You don't want to be on a foot post or be a slave to the radio w/ no meals? Guess what, you're learning the job! WELCOME TO THE NYPD! Meal is a privilege, you're not entitled to one. When you're holding 8 jobs upon turnout in the middle of summer (and they're priorities such as shots fireds, gun runs, 34's, 30's, etc), and it doesn't stop until you go end of tour, you're gonna figure it out REAL fast. It's gonna happen whether you like it or not. You can't be lazy doing this job. They're cops & bosses who were "taken care of" by going to cozy commands for almost their whole career & when they get flown to a detail in an A-house (example: Labor Day/Jouvay in the 67 & 71) or get transferred to an A-house, pardon my French but they're scared shyteless in doing anything. If you work in an A-house long enough NOBODY, especially someone from a soft command, can't tell you nothing about policing because they probably didn't see half the things that happens in an A-house, happening in a C-house.



Those people telling you to stay away from A-houses are lazy hairbags who shyte-can jobs & do half-assed paperwork. Don't let those people's beliefs & actions suck you in because you'll eventually turn into one of them, and I'm sure you wouldn't want that to happen...


Wow! Well said. What you say makes a lot of sense.!!

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

footposts are the best part of the job unlike being in a sector ur not a slave to the radio u will prob get a meal and u have a good chance of making a crazi *** collar.... i have seen more in six months in an a house then my friends brother who has 6 years on all spent in a c house

[bam987]

Its called paying your dues.
Enjoy your career as a do-nothing!

Thanks for the feedback and the positive energy!

[John2008]

The only reason why I said I wanted to go to a"C" precint is becasue I did not want to be on a foot post for two years like many people say. I made a thread so I can hear expert opinion from many guys OTJ. Many people tell me stay away from "A" houses you are going to be a slave to the radio with no meals. I dont know if that's true. Im open to ALL opinions and advice from people OTJ or people who know people OTJ... Thanks for your feedback!!!!

I don't get why a new person would want to go into a C house, When I get out the academy I want to go into a busy precinct, Busy precinct=OT, you learn the job quicker. I think you have a better chance of moving out of a foot post in a busy precinct since there's more things going on, in a slow precinct the old timers will get the RMP because there are less thing happening. Plus working in a busy precinct makes time go by quicker. plus when you're on a foot post you're not a slave to the radio like the ppl in the RMP, so when you're on foot post you get to talk to ppl if you like,look for things and be proactive. I have a friend that tells me that he misses being on foot at times.

[darkhelmet]

so C posts are the easy sections? I guess C house doesnt stand for crackhouse than eh? lol

[gbotj]

gbot you have been very helpful in the past and you are usually correct in all your posts.. however you are partially incorrect this one time...



I didnt post that, bklyns finest posted that. My post is one under his and only 2 lines long.

[darkhelmet]

i dont know how to delete messages....

[darkhelmet]

I didnt post that, bklyns finest posted that. My post is one under his and only 2 lines long.

o my bad dude sorry :)

[darkhelmet]

my internet acting screwy.. this is a test

[gbotj]

no problem man.

[jimmiceman]

hey Bam, I wasn't trying to make fun of you or anything but the question you asked is usually asked by lazy people looking to skate. This unfortunately is the problem with a lot or most of the new recruits in police work these days. No one I mean NO ONE wants to put in there time and pay there dues. Most new guys come in thinking they are the $HiT and expect respect right away. Most new guys just take the job because it's a municipal job and know that the money and the benefits are better than private industry. In the old days people took police jobs because they wanted to be COPS and would die for a police job. Now a days people just take the job because no one else is hiring. This is why you see these fat slobs and these jerk off rookies writing other cops or retired cops and even writing over plaques. They have they attitude that they are the new police and there will shall be done. Take what ever you're given and say thank you for it. You were just given a front row seat to the greatest job and the greatest show on earth. Just my 2 cents

[BklynsFinest347]

brooklyn you are partially incorrect this time...

According to NYS law meals are required by anyone working over 6 hours.

I was in a sector one night & a shooting occurred in an adjoining sector. Obviously, everybody goes. My SGT had the sector of concern do the paperwork & voucher the vic's bloodied clothes, while my sector was placed to secure the crime scene until the Nightwatch arrives to do their investigation (Nightwatch is the Boro Detective Squad working the midnight tour) & for ECT to collect the necessary evidence from the scene. We waited all tour until the day tours relieved us. There was NO meal for that tour, period...

Another example:

In another sector another night. Desk sgt 10-2's us back to the house before meal & told us to transport 6 prisoners to BCB. Sarge tells us "IF we finish with the transport early, we can go straight to meal after the transport." Seemed like narcotics & gang collared half the boro & we were stuck there almost till the end of tour...

One more example:

I was still in FTU & the day tour desk SGT pulls me & my partner to do a transport upon turnout of 5 prisoners, and 2 of them are walkthrough prisoners (sick, injured or mentally unstable prisoners that need supervision by escorting officer(s) until he/she sees the judge for arraignment). We lodged the other 3 perps & we had to watch one walkthrough a piece. Waited our turn to see the judge, didn't see the him when we were there. Guess what? That it took the entire tour & then some until the 4x12's would relieve us, and who knows how long that would take. Made a lil bit of OT (ALWAYS GOOD!! :)), but didn't get a meal that day...

Again, like they told us in the academy, meal is a privilege. It sucks, but it is what it is. That's what happens when you're at the bottom of the totem pole. Rookies have the higher tax numbers get the undesirable assignments like sitting on hospitalized prisoners, sitting on DOA's, standing on a foot post when there's not enough RMP's to go around, etc. Gotta pay your dues like the senior guys did once upon a time. Senior guys already have their steady sectors or specialized in-command details already made by experience & seniority.

Yeah, I only have a year and a 1/2 on the job, and I don't know everything about the job, true, but by working at an A-house it gives you the best learning experience that you can't get at any B or C house.

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

brooklyns finest if u go to bcb and got walkthrus and dont know how to get a meal out of it theres something wrong with u man j/k...they got menus in bcb and u can order food and have it sent there

[darkhelmet]

im not doubting that sometimes people don't eat.. however state law madates that you are allowed a break. If three is no break given the Department of Labor can get involved and the City will get HUGE fines. I wonder how the city manages to get away with this. Not giving breaks falls under the slave labor statute of the NYS Penal law.

what is an a b and c house.. i still havent gotten a response.. thanks :)

[gbotj]

No meals happens all over NYS in ALL PD's not just NYPD. Some things are more of a priority than getting a hamburger and fries.

NYPD Pct's are categorized by "A" "B" "C" letters to designate how busy they are. "A" being the busiest, "B" being medium, and "C" being slow (relatively)

[BklynsFinest347]

brooklyns finest if u go to bcb and got walkthrus and dont know how to get a meal out of it theres something wrong with u man j/k...they got menus in bcb and u can order food and have it sent there

OK you got me, bad example, but the concept counts LOL. The others are good enough examples though.

im not doubting that sometimes people don't eat.. however state law madates that you are allowed a break. If three is no break given the Department of Labor can get involved and the City will get HUGE fines. I wonder how the city manages to get away with this. Not giving breaks falls under the slave labor statute of the NYS Penal law.

Well, the NYPD is a para-military organization. Try working a busy summer Saturday night in an A-House & you'll see...

what is an a b and c house.. i still havent gotten a response.. thanks

An A-House is a command that's extremely busy, fast paced & overall insane environment with shootings, stabbings, shots fireds, gun runs, robberies, assaults, etc. (Ex: 46, 67, 73 PCTs)

A B-house is a command that's not too busy and not too slow. (Ex: 72, 90, 107 PCTs)

A C-house is a slow command with barely anything happening. Also known as a "hook house" (ex: 50, 111, 123 PCTs)

[darkhelmet]

im not saying it doesn't happen.. and eating is my last priority I was just saying that it is illegal and for a "para-military" organization where you are expected to follow the rules, they are breaking quite a few.

If a person is stationed at an A house are they more likely to get a promotion?

[BklynsFinest347]

If a person is stationed at an A house are they more likely to get a promotion?

You take promotional tests to get promoted in rank (sergeant, lieutenant, etc). You can earn your detective shield by getting into a specialized unit, like narcotics, vice (any OCCB unit) or IAB. But you must have a lot of good, quality collars and/or have a big hook to get in such a detail. In an A-house, you definitely could put in for department recognition citations for any great collars that led to a trial & conviction of a perp. Your command's CO is the person who determines whether you get it or not.

[bam987]

An "A" house looks like the place to be if you want to advance in your career. I want to join a crime team as soon as possible. The only way I see me doing that is working HARD in a busy precint.

[darkhelmet]

You take promotional tests to get promoted in rank (sergeant, lieutenant, etc). You can earn your detective shield by getting into a specialized unit, like narcotics, vice (any OCCB unit) or IAB. But you must have a lot of good, quality collars and/or have a big hook to get in such a detail. In an A-house, you definitely could put in for department recognition citations for any great collars that led to a trial & conviction of a perp. Your command's CO is the person who determines whether you get it or not.

lets say you have two people trying to get into a specialized unit.. neither have a hook and there is only one spot.. one person is from a A house and the other from a C.. the A house person would be more likely to get the spot no?

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

lets say you have two people trying to get into a specialized unit.. neither have a hook and there is only one spot.. one person is from a A house and the other from a C.. the A house person would be more likely to get the spot no?

i wouldnt say yes or no to that..alot of things go into effect there your sick record, collars, things like that are gonna determine if u get into a detail not neccessarly if ur in an a house or c house

[darkhelmet]

so again what is the advantage of a C house besides a higher chance of getting killed?

[John2008]

so again what is the advantage of a C house besides a higher chance of getting killed?

You probably mean an "A" house,
1.You will learn the Job a lot quicker.
2.More OT than most C houses
3.When you come from a A house and are promoted to lets say Sgt and get put into a C house, people out there will trust you a little better since you came from a busy house.
4.Kills time when working.( imagine being on a foot post in a slow precinct at 2am with nothing to do)

[tito1984]

I have that mentality where I say, Please put me in a "A" House. I know what its like to be bored at work, and a "C" house definitly would not be for me. But hey, to each his own.

[John2008]

I have that mentality where I say, Please put me in a "A" House. I know what its like to be bored at work, and a "C" house definitly would not be for me. But hey, to each his own.

exactly my point. I want to go into the 75,79,73 or 103(preferably this one)

[Saint_Jude]

So what are the chances of getting a busy house if you request it on your "wishlist." ;)

Also, are special awards given during graduation of the academy for things like "best academics" "best shooter" or "best PT"...such as in other academies? For example if you score highest in any of these areas for Chicago's academy you get a choice of assignment out of the academy.

[bam987]

exactly my point. I want to go into the 75,79,73 or 103(preferably this one)

Those are definately some busy places! Go ahead John!

[NYCTNT]

A busy house on a wishlist?

You put in what BORO you want to work in, not what PCT you want to work in. The chances are pretty high.

[John2008]

A busy house on a wishlist?

You put in what BORO you want to work in, not what PCT you want to work in. The chances are pretty high.

so my wish list would look something like this then.

1.Queens South
2.Brooklyn North

and so on for transit and housing.

[Honda]

You're probably going to have a wishlist of 6 - 2 Patrol Boros; 2 Transit Divisions; 2 PSAs (housing). Not individual commands.

Unless you have a hook, become company sgt (NOT assistant company sgt), or win an award (top overall recruit, highest avg, firearms, gym, community service, etc) you have little to no say where you're going. Just do your best in the academy, don't be an academy hairbag, and let the chips fall where they may in terms of assignment.

A wishlist is just that. You're going where they need you and you can take that to the bank. "Needs of the service"

Good luck.

[bam987]

I used to have a freind who worked transit up in the bronx. He loved it he made the plainclothes crime unit in less than two years on the job. I hear MTA sponsors a lot of OVERTIME for them. Is this true?

I also have a freind who works in housing in the bronx. She loves it. She says its the best kept secret in the NYPD.

What do you guys think? Transit or Housing? Great places to start a career or no?

[tito1984]

I would love brooklyn north or queens south!..

Transit as well.. Housing..

Honestly I don't care where they put me just put me somewhere where I won't be a waste!

Definitly looking to help people out and become a role model.

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

housing has this wierd mentality to them...its just something you cant explain...transit is the best but if u want to be a well rounded officer start off in a precinct

[BklynsFinest347]

If you're going to a Queens South command, its gonna be either the 101 or the 103. If you're going to a Brooklyn North command, its gonna be either the 73, 75, or 79.

My command borders the 73 & thats where my command gets most of the heavy stuff from.

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

yea everyone should come to the 73 that way i can start riding in the car more then once a month lol

[bam987]

What's the difference between Impact and ATLAS?

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

atlas is for writting a summons its a type of overtime

[darkhelmet]

atlast... i finally heard i got the job.. o wait no thats not it i have no idea.. sorry lol :)

[bam987]

atlas is for writting a summons its a type of overtime


I thought that was umbrella?

[zeroryde]

impact sucks... that's all I can say... you won't be seeing a car for a long long time, and basically you're stuck being a summons whore... doing this and that and whatever operation or initiative there is required by the boro. You don't want to go to a C house, or even a B house like what everyone says about mine, but there are impact zones in Manhattan South as well. The only thing that's different is that there aren't as much shootings or rapes, but there are still robberies, a **** load of grand larcenies, and roving bands... "think Task Force".

I say, the only benefit if you put Manhattan South, and you're lucky enough to get it, is that your commute will be good if you live in Long Island... Why? Because it's in Midtown South which is on 35th St right by Penn Station, and I save a lot of gas money by taking the train everyday.

Everyone that I know in the A house impact says it was fun and cool in the beginning and now they hate it a lot.

Everyone in my house used to like it, just because it was in Times Square, but you have to deal with a lot of annoying tourists, and a lot of perps from everywhere (Bronx, Brooklyn) at night, especially friday and saturday night where it's a nightmare in terms of crowds.
It's also very political as well...

What else... meal is definitely a privilege.. even on foot post in Midtown South since you deal with large scale crowds, steam pipe explosions, and details up to wazzu and ordered OT on your RDO.

So to be honest... there is no such thing as a "good impact house" at all...

and I've been on it for a year...hoping to get transferred...soon...

[John2008]

So there are impact houses in Manhattan.
How many patrol boroughs are we suppose to put in our dream sheet? event ho I probably won't get any of my top choices.

[BklynsFinest347]

So there are impact houses in Manhattan.
How many patrol boroughs are we suppose to put in our dream sheet? event ho I probably won't get any of my top choices.

Only two patrol boros.

[John2008]

Only two patrol boros.

Ok, I would like Midtown south or queens south even tho I'll probably end up in Brooklyn north anyways but w/e.

[PTLovesMe81]

Ok, I would like Midtown south or queens south even tho I'll probably end up in Brooklyn north anyways but w/e.

Queens is getting pretty busy. No one knows for sure but you probably have a pretty good chance of getting queens. Manhattan south gets a good amount of graduates as well from what I hear but its extremely hard to get.

[BklynsFinest347]

Queens is getting pretty busy. No one knows for sure but you probably have a pretty good chance of getting queens. Manhattan south gets a good amount of graduates as well from what I hear but its extremely hard to get.

Manhattan Soft, I mean South, is a hook/crane patrol boro. You'll need to know some big wig to get in there. Brooklyn North or Brooklyn South, here you come lol.

[John2008]

Manhattan Soft, I mean South, is a hook/crane patrol boro. You'll need to know some big wig to get in there. Brooklyn North or Brooklyn South, here you come lol.

I know lol, My only complain about BK will be the commute. Gas is going to be killing me.

[darkhelmet]

I know lol, My only complain about BK will be the commute. Gas is going to be killing me.

why not take the train/subway

[John2008]

why not take the train/subway

It will take forever, lol.
I live in Suffolk county.

[darkhelmet]

It will take forever, lol.
I live in Suffolk county.

you might think so... but try driving on the LIE during Rush Hour.. it takes forever.. the train might actually be quicker...

[John2008]

you might think so... but try driving on the LIE during Rush Hour.. it takes forever.. the train might actually be quicker...

depends, as a rookie I expect to be working the graveyard shift. Since most of my friends if not all got the late shift.

[darkhelmet]

depends, as a rookie I expect to be working the graveyard shift. Since most of my friends if not all got the late shift.

good point..

[bam987]

good point..

Rookies in impact work 5pm-3am right?

[STXHammer]

plus the train you can sleep on and its AC :)AC

[BklynsFinest347]

Rookies in impact work 5pm-3am right?

These are the usual Impact odd tours:

6pm-2pm
7pm-3am
8pm-4am

Bklyn South IRT has two tours: 12pm-8pm and 8pm-4am.

Your RDO's (Regular Days Off) are more than likely steady Tuesday/Wednesday's or Wednesday/Thursday's.

[Big Will]

Anyone know how many guys get sent to the Bronx for Impact? I live in Westchester so it would be great in terms of my commute.

[JohnieBK]

Is there an Impact in the 70 PCT? I would assume if there was, it would be on the north eastern side (67 border). I'm in the academy now and would love the chance to be in the 70 if it has impact.

Anyone have any 70 experience? Is it a B-house and how are the bosses and fellow cops there.

[stg118]

Anyone know how many guys get sent to the Bronx for Impact? I live in Westchester so it would be great in terms of my commute.

I just got out of the last class there were about 150 people that went to the bx 50 for each house (52,46,44). If you live in Westchester and put the Bronx or your dream sheet they will put you there. Believe it or not they don't like to screw with you that bad, they wont put you in Brooklyn or Staten island unless you made some powerful enemies in the academy.

[binzo]

I just got out of the last class there were about 150 people that went to the bx 50 for each house (52,46,44). If you live in Westchester and put the Bronx or your dream sheet they will put you there. Believe it or not they don't like to screw with you that bad, they wont put you in Brooklyn or Staten island unless you made some powerful enemies in the academy.

Hey, do you know if any or how many people got sent to Queens?

[John2008]

Hey, do you know if any or how many people got sent to Queens?

a good chunk of people get sent to queens south. Also Brooklyn north.

[Big Will]

I just got out of the last class there were about 150 people that went to the bx 50 for each house (52,46,44). If you live in Westchester and put the Bronx or your dream sheet they will put you there. Believe it or not they don't like to screw with you that bad, they wont put you in Brooklyn or Staten island unless you made some powerful enemies in the academy.

Thanks man.

[BklynsFinest347]

Is there an Impact in the 70 PCT? I would assume if there was, it would be on the north eastern side (67 border). I'm in the academy now and would love the chance to be in the 70 if it has impact.

Anyone have any 70 experience? Is it a B-house and how are the bosses and fellow cops there.

Yup, the 70 is an Impact command. The 67 is an FTU command (we're getting low on manpower in the 67 & we need the bodies to stay after FTU - the last 67 Impact class was back in 2004-05). After the last class, the 70 had almost 130 bodies in Impact from my class & the class that came out this past December. I'm hearing the guys who came out with me that's 70 Impact did their "dream sheets" to transfer to other commands within Bklyn South. More than likely, they'll be coming here to the 67. Like I said before, its gonna be a LONG, HOT summer (the West Indian Day Parade isn't that far off now LOL).

OR..........

You might get sent to Bklyn South IRT (Instant Response Team - they have PBBS collar brass, drive PBBS vans & RMP's & turn out of BSTF at Coney Island Av & Parkside Av). You're gonna be bouncing between the 67 & 71 if you're in that detail.

Oh and by the way, the 70 is an A-house, who told ya its a B-house? LOL

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

chances are if u live in long island brooklyn or queens ur prob going to brooklyn north there is 4 impact precincts 2 housing impacts and a brookyln north irt...thats 6 impact commands for on boro queena only has two the 103 and 115..bronx has 2...brooklyn south has 2 and manhattan has 3 plus there is two transit...so chances are u are gonna end up in brooklyn north and its not a bad thing

[John2008]

chances are if u live in long island brooklyn or queens ur prob going to brooklyn north there is 4 impact precincts 2 housing impacts and a brookyln north irt...thats 6 impact commands for on boro queena only has two the 103 and 115..bronx has 2...brooklyn south has 2 and manhattan has 3 plus there is two transit...so chances are u are gonna end up in brooklyn north and its not a bad thing

I wouldn't mind being a BK, I would just hate the commute.

How's the commute for you?

[kxl77]

I wouldn't mind being a BK, I would just hate the commute.

How's the commute for you?

If we get the same tour, maybe we can car pool! :D

[John2008]

If we get the same tour, maybe we can car pool! :D

Sounds like a deal, we have to save the earth by car pooling.

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

i live in long island and its a 40 minute ride the lirr actually gets off 6 blocks from my precinct

[John2008]

i live in long island and its a 40 minute ride the lirr actually gets off 6 blocks from my precinct

Wait, the LIRR goes into Brooklyn? that shows you that I don't use the LIRR or subways often. I thought if you wanted to go into Brooklyn you have to get off at jamacia or penn and take the subways.

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

u take the lirr to jamiaca transfer and then go to east ny stop i think u get off at vansinderen blvd and its a 15 minute walk

[John2008]

u take the lirr to jamiaca transfer and then go to east ny stop i think u get off at vansinderen blvd and its a 15 minute walk

That's not too bad, a lot better than spending 40bucks on gas for two days.

[BklynsFinest347]

u take the lirr to jamiaca transfer and then go to east ny stop i think u get off at vansinderen blvd and its a 15 minute walk

It's the LIRR Brooklyn/Flatbush Avenue line. Take it to the East New York station (Atlantic Avenue & Snediker Avenue) & walk down East New York Avenue to the 73 Pct.

[John2008]

It's the LIRR Brooklyn/Flatbush Avenue line. Take it to the East New York station (Atlantic Avenue & Snediker Avenue) & walk down East New York Avenue to the 73 Pct.

How about if you have to go to the 75? or that other place where people go to when they're on impact for the borough? I forgot the name of it.

[bam987]

Say you gradaute the academy and get assigned to the 44th pct and you want to switch with somene who got assigned to the 52nd precint. The person your switching with is fine with it. Can this be done?

If you get assigned to the borough IRT pbbs,pbbx pbbn etc.... will you get a chance to be in a vehice regulary or just get dropped off on a impact post?

[BklynsFinest347]

Say you gradaute the academy and get assigned to the 44th pct and you want to switch with somene who got assigned to the 52nd precint. The person your switching with is fine with it. Can this be done?

If you get assigned to the borough IRT pbbs,pbbx pbbn etc.... will you get a chance to be in a vehice regulary or just get dropped off on a impact post?

Nope, you get sent to a command, you're pretty much stuck there, unless you're in Impact. Either you get dropped off at a post, or you find your way there. When I was in FTU, we never got rides to post. We took the bus/subway like everyone else & did the same coming back.

[03usmc51]

chances are if u live in long island brooklyn or queens ur prob going to brooklyn north there is 4 impact precincts 2 housing impacts and a brookyln north irt...thats 6 impact commands for on boro queena only has two the 103 and 115..bronx has 2...brooklyn south has 2 and manhattan has 3 plus there is two transit...so chances are u are gonna end up in brooklyn north and its not a bad thing

What is IRT???the quote says Brooklyn north IRT what is that???

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

IRT stands for Impact Responce Team (cant spell) they go around to diff pct in the boro and work foot posts in that area

[bam987]

To guys that were in impact.... Did you ever pick up jobs that were in the vicinity of your post like burg alarms,domestic disputes,85's etc ? Did you give out summonds for open containers,double park,dis con....Or did the boss want you on your post at all times?

[NYCTNT]

of course. you do what you have to do. "You" are a cop. If there is way you can help that sector car out by picking up a job, then go ahead and do it. Do you NOT think that summonses would be greatly wanted while on post?. Whats the point of hiring cops if all what is expected of you is to stay on the corner and not move at all. Dont get me wrong, there might be a couple bosses out there that will specifically tell you dont go to a job or pick up a heavy job but that depends on the boss and the pct.

[John2008]

of course. you do what you have to do. you are a cop. If there is way you can help that sector car out by picking up a job, then go ahead and do it. Do you NOT think that summonses would be greatly wanted while on post?

From what I hear, Impact will make you a one mean summons writing machine while on foot.

[JohnieBK]

To guys that were in impact.... Did you ever pick up jobs that were in the vicinity of your post like burg alarms,domestic disputes,85's etc ? Did you give out summonds for open containers,double park,dis con....Or did the boss want you on your post at all times?

Not pick up an 85 because you are on a fixed post? OF COURSE YOU PICK UP THAT 85. Common sense....

[John2008]

I might be wrong about this but here it goes.

When you're on a foot post don't you get more of a chance to be proactive since you're not going on radio calls all day long like the sector cars?

[NYCTNT]

about 85's. NEVER hessitate to run to an 85, eventhough there are a couple nut job bosses out there that will give you a CD for being off post. Happened to a girl I know that was fresh out and on an impact post in BK. She ran to the 85 and came back to the command with a CD. Oh well. Despite that, never think twice to run to an 85. The CO threw the CD out and ripped the Sgt a new one about that.

[John2008]

about 85's. NEVER hessitate to run to an 85, eventhough there are a couple nut job bosses out there that will give you a CD for being off post. Happened to a girl I know that was fresh out and on an impact post in BK. She ran to the 85 and came back to the command with a CD. Oh well. Despite that, never think twice to run to an 85. The CO threw the CD out and ripped the Sgt a new one about that.

I guess no matter where you go, you'll come across dumb supervisors.
What's a 85? additional unit?

[kxl77]

CD? 85? o_O

[John2008]

CD=command discipline.
85=I think it means another unit needed, like if you're on a call and you ask for help.

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

85 can mean an additional unit like u got a large crowd and u need to get them moving....or it can mean u need some paper work....or it could mean ur fighting with a perp on a corner....wen some ones fighting all ur gonna here is the unit screaming out there location...come 85's sound like 13's but it only gets classified as a 13 if it comes over as a man with a gun or shots fired...i have had to unfortunatly call 2 13's in my short time with the nypd

[MELLY7227]

That's not too bad, a lot better than spending 40bucks on gas for two days.
It cost me 40 bucks to get to Staten Island and back for the JST and 10 for the Vz bridge..There goes my lunch money for the week!! lol

[Army2PD]

It cost me 40 bucks to get to Staten Island and back for the JST and 10 for the Vz bridge..There goes my lunch money for the week!! lol

Wow 50 big ones :eek: It will cost me a little under 20bucks to take it at the academy.

[John2008]

It cost me 40 bucks to get to Staten Island and back for the JST and 10 for the Vz bridge..There goes my lunch money for the week!! lol

You drive a SUV or V8?

[MELLY7227]

i drive a minivan v-6 ( i think) this is how i roll!! lmaooo the gas is killllllinggg me!!

[John2008]

i drive a minivan v-6 ( i think) this is how i roll!! lmaooo the gas is killllllinggg me!!

Just put some 22's on the van and you'll be ok. :cool:

[jchughes05]

lol Any word on NYPD hiring laterals???


**chirp chirp**

Thought not! :-P

[John2008]

lol Any word on NYPD hiring laterals???


**chirp chirp**

Thought not! :-P

Most big departments out here in NY don't accept laterals within the state and I'm pretty sure not even out of state. NYPD,SCPD.NCPD,NYSP,PAPD,Westchester county all require you to go through their academy. now if you're lucky to find one of those little tiny towns that need a officer and will let you lateral over than go for it, but if I had to guess the chances of that are pretty slim.

[BklynsFinest347]

The only NYS agencies that does laterals are between the NYPD & the NYS MTA PD (same academy).

[NYCTNT]

SUNY and AMTRACK PD as well.

[Xjarhead]

IMPACT= summons & collar whore!

[bam987]

IMPACT= summons & collar whore!

Whatever it takes to make it into a sqaud!!!

[Xjarhead]

Try that in a patrol squad and see what happens to you!! :cool:

[John2008]

I was told by someone that did two years in impact that they mainly want C summonses and a couple of A summonses.

[PTLovesMe81]

I was told by someone that did two years in impact that they mainly want C summonses and a couple of A summonses.

Its completely based on where you are and it differs precinct to precinct. I was talking to a few people in brookyln north cause thats where I am probably going to wind up, and they told me right now they want:

10 A
5 B
5 C
1 Collar
5 250's

In Manhattan South I heard its more ABC's and like 1 collar per quarter.

[John2008]

Its completely based on where you are and it differs precinct to precinct. I was talking to a few people in brookyln north cause thats where I am probably going to wind up, and they told me right now they want:

10 A
5 B
5 C
1 Collar
5 250's

In Manhattan South I heard its more ABC's and like 1 collar per quarter.

What are 250's?

A=Parking
B=traffic violation
C=court summons like public intoxication?
is that right?

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

250's are stop question and frisk reports or as i call them an easy as hell way to get jammed up quick report...on a side note i feel bad for all the kids graduating...all the impact commands in brooklyn north are dumping out there experinced impact officers and there is onli going to be brand new rookies doing impact...i'm just sitting on my butt waiting for my transfer why they get out on the second

[John2008]

250's are stop question and frisk reports or as i call them an easy as hell way to get jammed up quick report...on a side note i feel bad for all the kids graduating...all the impact commands in brooklyn north are dumping out there experinced impact officers and there is onli going to be brand new rookies doing impact...i'm just sitting on my butt waiting for my transfer why they get out on the second

One of my friends is pretty happy he's getting transfered out of impact, He's going into a task force riding a RMP.

[skerekes]

Must be hard doing traffic violations when you are on FOOT for impact?

[John2008]

Must be hard doing traffic violations when you are on FOOT for impact?

I kinda of laugh one time, You see some of the guys jump out in front of cars trying to stop them. They're freaking crazy. There's really no safe way of doing a car stop while on foot.
The only way I can think of doing a car stop while on foot that would lower my chance of getting run over, is by sitting by a traffic light when the light turns red walked by the cars that are stopped and look for seatbelt violation,expired registrations and expired inspections,crack windshield,talking on the cell phone and so on.

[JohnieBK]

Anybody got info on Bklyn South Task Force? How is it? How are the bosses/fellow cops and what type of activity do they want? Where's the hot spots?

[PTLovesMe81]

250's are stop question and frisk reports or as i call them an easy as hell way to get jammed up quick report...on a side note i feel bad for all the kids graduating...all the impact commands in brooklyn north are dumping out there experinced impact officers and there is onli going to be brand new rookies doing impact...i'm just sitting on my butt waiting for my transfer why they get out on the second

Is that true? We were told they were going to be waiting 3-4 weeks for the transfers to help the transition onto the street. Either way 3-4 weeks isnt enough to put someone out on their own but its better than nothing.

For whoever asked
A- Parkers
B- Movers
C- Criminal Court
250'a - Stop and Frisk Report

[PTLovesMe81]

Must be hard doing traffic violations when you are on FOOT for impact?

I asked about this too and supposedly the commands that have you on foot don't stress those numbers, I guess people also get rotated into a car to drive the Sgt. around and they make their traffic numbers that way. Either way I guess I will find out next week.

Today is picture day. Woo hoo. 16 hours and 46 minutes left in the academy building but who's counting!

[MELLY7227]

Congrats to you PT!!!!! When is the graduation???

[John2008]

Congrats to you PT!!!!! When is the graduation???

Wed July 2nd, I'll be there.
Congrats PT.

[Kyle G]

Is it possible to do college credits while on probation... after the academy of course?

Is there any impact in Manhattan?

[Honda]

Is it possible to do college credits while on probation... after the academy of course?

Is there any impact in Manhattan?


YES to both.

[Xjarhead]

Experienced impact officers? Now thats funny!!!:D:(

[activebimmer]

Also funny.... Your spelling!

[NYCTNT]

Yea! GOODLUCK on getting into Manhattan!

[PTLovesMe81]

Yea! GOODLUCK on getting into Manhattan!

They said 1013 graduated in the last class but I think that it was like 900 really. About 400 wound up in brooklyn north and south precinct impact and that isnt even including brooklyn transit or housing.

Where do you think you are going?

[NYCTNT]

I am where I am.

I am no recruit.

[PTLovesMe81]

I am where I am.

I am no recruit.

Hahahaaa..... I wasn't asking YOU where you were going I meant it for that guy who had asked the question earlier in the thread. I guess I screwed up and quoted you instead of him. My bad. I knew you were no recruit. :)

[Xjarhead]

Did i hit a nerve, activerimmer? :)

[Jayc6018]

Let me ask a question. I reside in the south bronx. Between the 42 and 48 precint, would I end up in the north bronx? Or would they put me in Manhattan? I'm figuring northen Manhattan washington heights area?

Thanks

[Honda]

It's not unreasonable to think that you could get your first or second choice with those choices being Bronx and Manhattan North.

With that said you're going to go where they send you, and there's always a possibility that you're the unlucky soul or souls who get shipped to an Impact zone far away. Just cross your fingers and hope it isn't you, as commute is one of the most important things when you're on patrol.

Good luck.

[rh22]

,...................

[Xjarhead]

Jay,
Your going to queens south!!! The Job loves you,lol.

[John2008]

Jay,
Your going to queens south!!! The Job loves you,lol.

I hope I get queens south instead of Bk north.

[jchughes05]

MAN, just be happy to graduate and be an officer, don't worry about your assignment!!

[ZeroHero123]

Let me ask a question. I reside in the south bronx. Between the 42 and 48 precint, would I end up in the north bronx? Or would they put me in Manhattan? I'm figuring northen Manhattan washington heights area?

Thanks

The Impact PCT in the PBBX are the 44,46,52, and i think the 47(not sure someone correct me if i am wrong). The only impact pct in PBMN is the 32.

After graduation from the academy because you live in the Bronx most likely you will be sent to one of the above pct's unless you have a hook or go to housing or transit :cool:

[NYCTNT]

The 32 is where MN IRT comes out of, so its not 32 per say, its 2 other pcts thrown in there as well.

[Xjarhead]

I hope I get queens south instead of Bk north.
Youll learn more in PBBN in 6 months then you will in PBQS in 2 years!! Trust me, ive worked in both boros. That being said, the 101 is pretty bad and so is the 113 but BN still takes the cake!:D

[bam987]

Which do you think has the most crime and is the best place to learn police work??? Brooklyn North(75,73 etc) or the Bronx(impact pcts 44,46,52 etc.).

[Jayc6018]

The Impact PCT in the PBBX are the 44,46,52, and i think the 47(not sure someone correct me if i am wrong). The only impact pct in PBMN is the 32.

After graduation from the academy because you live in the Bronx most likely you will be sent to one of the above pct's unless you have a hook or go to housing or transit :cool:


Thanks bro. It really doesn't matter where I end up however I would rather patrol a boro than the 1 I live in. I don't mind PBBN, PBBS or Northern Manhattan.

As long as I don't end up in the boro I live in is fine with me lol

[Xjarhead]

Bam,
Both Boros will teach you how to be a "handson", active cop. Be a sponge and learn and youll do fine no matter where you go.

Jay,
With gas and tolls, hope for PBMN. After a while the commute will be important to you!

[bam987]

Bam,
Both Boros will teach you how to be a "handson", active cop. Be a sponge and learn and youll do fine no matter where you go.

Jay,
With gas and tolls, hope for PBMN. After a while the commute will be important to you!

Thanks...I will gladly take that advice.

[zeroryde]

Experianced impact officers? Now thats funny!!!:D:(

hey, there are impact cops coming off with 2 years on in some spots... that's coming off probation...it's somewhat experience... better than some of these 6 months guys...

[Xjarhead]

hey, there are impact cops coming off with 2 years on in some spots... that's coming off probation...it's somewhat experience... better than some of these 6 months guys...

The problem is these guys come to commands and because they were senior in IMPACT or IRT they think they deserve something. Theres a hell of alot more to the job besides "C" summonses and Crim Tress/511/ROW collars.

[So Fla Cop]

Manhattan Soft, I mean South, is a hook/crane patrol boro. You'll need to know some big wig to get in there. Brooklyn North or Brooklyn South, here you come lol.

I went to MTS right from the academy......did I mention the DCPI was a friend of my dad? :) I guess that was a big enough hook.

[bam987]

Do people ever get task force straight out the academy. MNTF,BXTF etc..Is their real advantage of working in a precint versus a task foce? I know (correct me if I'm wrong) Manhattan task foces have sectors that a car is assaigned to. Is this the same for the other boros?

[falcon]

If you want to learn the job Task Force is the last place you want to go. The job of Task Force in reality isnt crime suppression but instead it's summons writing with arrests for VTL violations (DWI,511)mixed in.Task Force sector cars are not answering 911 calls and are not out there backing up precinct sector cars on jobs. They mobilize when called for certain incidents (shootings and missing persons) and hit the desired location hard with summonses. Go to a Precinct if you want to learn. If your just looking to get in a car fast go to a Task Force.

[BigWill2876]

Would love to "know" what all the jargon means in English.

:)

[zeroryde]

I went to MTS right from the academy......did I mention the DCPI was a friend of my dad? :) I guess that was a big enough hook.

same here, but I had no hook to be honest... some people just get lucky... seriously...

[zeroryde]

The problem is these guys come to commands and because they were senior in IMPACT or IRT they think they deserve something. Theres a hell of alot more to the job besides "C" summonses and Crim Tress/511/ROW collars.

I couldn't agree with you any more... that's what sucks about impact all together.... it's just all about summons.. although different impact zones offer different things, it's still the same BS compared to patrol in a sector. The best is those with hooks that ended up in a house instead of impact act like they have so much time on... esp.. when the impact cop that got freshly transferred as a lower tax # than them, in fact more time than them. Impact sucks... period.. you never learn the job to be honest... and I'm suffering from it.

[zeroryde]

Do people ever get task force straight out the academy. MNTF,BXTF etc..Is their real advantage of working in a precint versus a task foce? I know (correct me if I'm wrong) Manhattan task foces have sectors that a car is assaigned to. Is this the same for the other boros?

no, and you don't want to go into task force anyway, impact will teach you more than task force.

[Xjarhead]

Impact sucks... period.. you never learn the job to be honest... and I'm suffering from it.

Zero,
If thats true then its up to you to fix it. If you have the right attitude the senior guys will notice and they will help you. If you act like you have 25 years on, they arent going to give you the time of day. Whatever you do dont bitch about fixers, hospitalized prisoners, etc. Every rookie has to do their time before they get a seat in a steady sector. The guys will notice that too.

[bam987]

what's a normal day like in an impact auto?

[kingofqueens718]

what's a normal day like in an impact auto?

An impact auto usually is one of the FTU officers driving the FTU Sgt. around.

[2BorNot2B]

Can someone expalin to me what impact is? Sorry...BUt I really don't know. Thanks.

[ZeroHero123]

what's a normal day like in an impact auto?

Sign out RMP# ####, bring back X amount of summonses or else you will never get impact auto again for the rest of impact :rolleyes:

[nyc1219]

Can someone expalin to me what impact is? Sorry...BUt I really don't know. Thanks.

impact or an impact post is a designated area that is flooded with rookie cops due to the level of crime in the area. the idea is deterrence as well as to crack down on minor violations in an attempt to lower the amount of violent crimes and or felonies. thus far it has worked very well in the depts eyes.

your going to write a sh*t load of tickets, stop lots of skells for warrant checks, and maybe chase some lowlife down the block.

[Back to NYC]

impact or an impact post is a designated area that is flooded with rookie cops due to the level of crime in the area. the idea is deterrence as well as to crack down on minor violations in an attempt to lower the amount of violent crimes and or felonies. thus far it has worked very well in the depts eyes.

your going to write a sh*t load of tickets, stop lots of skells for warrant checks, and maybe chase some lowlife down the block.

Don't forget sprinting to the big 85s so that you can see the Deputy Inspectors, Inspectors, and one-star Chiefs from the IRTs throw people up on the hoods of RMPs and call in Aviation to clear out the crowd that's streamed out of the projects. :D

[nyc1219]

hahaha, i called in an 85 (as an auxiliary po) in union square park. (it was me and my partner vs. 8 guys and a bat walking at us after we saw one guy slap another) anyways.. i had rookies on an impact post more then 10 blocks away running there asses off to help, by the time they showed up we were all gone. we as in the 4 rmps, 3 taskforce vans, transit UCs who poped out of the hole, and a mounted unit!!! it became a cop convention real fast but i really welcomed the backup.

[GeneralMelchid]

hahahah, must of been fun to see the calvary arrive. hahaha

[bam987]

Cool.... I think Impact is like any other thing on the job..It is what you make of it!

[Back to NYC]

Cool.... I think Impact is like any other thing on the job..It is what you make of it!

I agree...most of the people I work with in Impact say how much it sucks, how they can't wait to get into a car, etc., but I think Impact is kinda fun. You get to do a little of everything: write some Cs, make some arrests (BS ones, mainly, but you still learn how to process them, etc.), answer a few radio runs, do some paperwork. Impact is relatively easy work, too...there is no comparing strolling around your post, getting a full hour for meal and at least one personal every tour, answering maybe one radio run every couple days to being in a sector car in a heavy precinct (turning out with Central already holding five jobs for you, trying to keep out of backlog, maybe not getting a meal...).

It makes sense that they put practically every new cop into Impact. It gives you a little taste of everything, without putting too much responsibility on you. Don't get me wrong, I definitely don't want to be an Impact cop for twenty years, but it's not a bad gig for a new guy.

[BigWill2876]

Impact has been around for several years now. "They" like the numbers that are coming out of the Impact areas.
Everyone knew that in most every instance you would be working Impact right out of the Academy somewhere, someplace.
It's part of the job you signed up for, you choose this job, you wanted this job...
I don't see the problem.

[Xjarhead]

Don't get me wrong, I definitely don't want to be an Impact cop for twenty years, but it's not a bad gig for a new guy.

As long as you dont come off of impact thinking you know it all or are owed something! Alot of rooks come out and act like they have seen it all, then i back them on a job and they are clueless. Just something to keep in mind. :cool: