Nassau County PD

[gbotj]

Army Sean, heres how the pay will work out for you

Step 1 (assuming your hired in 2009) will be $34,000 (1 year pay)
Step 2 will be $45,000 (raise at the completion of 1 year)
Step 3 (step 3 is based on the year you will have your 3rd anniversary) will be $69,593

So at the completion of your Second year you will have 69k base pay. Prior to that it will be 45k but as much overtime as you feel like working. You are also paid weekly. You get a mini check, and a big check everyother week. The mini check is of your OT, night diff, uniform allowance, holiday pay and the big check is just of your base salary.

[ChiefOfMe1]

Army Sean, heres how the pay will work out for you

Step 1 (assuming your hired in 2009) will be $34,000 (1 year pay)
Step 2 will be $45,000 (raise at the completion of 1 year)
Step 3 (step 3 is based on the year you will have your 3rd anniversary) will be $69,593

So at the completion of your Second year you will have 69k base pay. Prior to that it will be 45k but as much overtime as you feel like working. You are also paid weekly. You get a mini check, and a big check everyother week. The mini check is of your OT, night diff, uniform allowance, holiday pay and the big check is just of your base salary.

G what are the patrol tours for nassau 10 hour days & what are the start times? you mentioned 7pm as one earlier but 2 10 hour tours leaves 4 hours uncovered. Also how long is a nassau academy 7 months?

[gbotj]

the 10 hour tours are 1900-0500 hrs and you work 4 days and then you are off 4 days. The 10 hour guys are on different squads than the 12hr guys. On each tour there may only be a few if any on 10's.
Most guys are on 12hr tours, alot of rookies are put on 10's but they will only be on 10's for 4 months (unless they want to stay on them).

The Nassau academy is 7 months long, 6 months academy + 1 month field training before graduation.

[Jak_bot]

gbotj, you are filled with great info....thanks for sharing...and I can't wait for the list to be established to know where I stand.

Thanks again for your contributions

[gbotj]

no problem. glad I can add as much info as I can


The same questions you guys ask are the same ones I asked.
I hang out with a NC cop everyday (my cuz). We talk about the job all the time, so my info is good.

[thecongo]

i received the letter about the physical requirements also. But I sent in my paperwork 2 months ago and still havent recieved a call from my BI. Im guessing Im more like 5 months away from the physical considering people like BlackHammer already met with their BI 2 months ago and got the letter stating the physical requirements the same time i did.

[jerry40]

You guys really think they'll reach 70's on the list??? How many new cops can they hire?? From what I understand Nassau's entire force is only about 2,700 officers. Unless a large number of officers retire in the next few years I don't see 70's scores being reachable. But then again I could be wrong, with Nassau especially nothing's written in stone.

[gbotj]

70's will be reached.

Alot of people failed this test, the average score on exam 3000 was 85ish and the average score on exam 7000 is 74. Exam 3000 had 12000 people on the list, and only 9000 people took the test for exam 7000. For exam 3000 they reached grade 82 (actually I think it might have been 81). The physical agility was alot easier for exam 3000, this new physical will weed out alot more candidates.

[Jak_bot]

Yup, the waiting game begins. Actually, it started a year ago. lol




You guys really think they'll reach 70's on the list??? How many new cops can they hire?? From what I understand Nassau's entire force is only about 2,700 officers. Unless a large number of officers retire in the next few years I don't see 70's scores being reachable. But then again I could be wrong, with Nassau especially nothing's written in stone.

[gbotj]

Jak bot, you got that right.

But heres how I look at it. Everyones rank just went up about 200 names. All the people who got called already, were called before the list was established. So they were called before the clock started ticking on the new list. They will be able to get out 1 or 2 extra classes now before the list dies.

[Jak_bot]

Ahhh, valid point. The beauty of not having a list established right away.


Jak bot, you got that right.

But heres how I look at it. Everyones rank just went up about 200 names. All the people who got called already, were called before the list was established. So they were called before the clock started ticking on the new list. They will be able to get out 1 or 2 extra classes now before the list dies.

[POCHEDDAR]

any idea or word on when thaty list will be established?

[skeezix]

Does anyone have an idea, or can guess, if they have a class of 100 cadets in January, how many people they will call from the list before they fill the spots? is it like a 2 or 3 to one ratio, or more like 5 or 6 to one?

[gbotj]

they already called the candidates for the Jan class. They are in the BI portion of the process.

On the old list it was about 4 to 1 ratio, with this list and the harder physical it should be anywhere from 6 - 10 to 1 ratio. Its tough to tell since no one completed the process yet.

[jerry40]

Does anyone have an idea, or can guess, if they have a class of 100 cadets in January, how many people they will call from the list before they fill the spots? is it like a 2 or 3 to one ratio, or more like 5 or 6 to one?

From what I understand it's more like 10:1 ratio. You need Nassau, they DON'T need you. They can and will pick only the most qualifiied, best candidates. The average Joe with only the bare minimum qualifications for employment has a slim to none chance. If you have a "hook," are already a LEO, or have at least a bachelor degree you'll be a lot more attractive to Nassau's BI's.

[gbotj]

its not 10:1 and it wasnt on exam 3000

for 10:1 ratio they would have to call 8000 people for 800 spots.
I believe they hired 700 people off of exam 3000 and they called roughly 2700 people. That ratio is about 4:1.
For this exam it could be 10:1 but thats only because the physical will be tougher. But my guess would be about 6 or 7 :1.

[nickfrost]

They can and will pick only the most qualifiied, best candidates. The average Joe with only the bare minimum qualifications for employment has a slim to none chance. If you have a "hook," are already a LEO, or have at least a bachelor degree you'll be a lot more attractive to Nassau's BI's.

I have a couple of family members who were hired off of exam 3000 and neither one of them had a hook, prior LEO, prior military, nor actual degrees - although both did meet the minimum qualifications. Actually one of them was given right up until the start of the academy to get the necessary number of college credits.

The way I have always looked at it is that being its civil service, once they get to your number on the list, as long as you pass everything you are in. Hell even if you fail the poly or psych you can appeal it and a lot of the time win - which one of my family members also did.

Granted the people I know who have been hired over the years could be the exceptions to some higher standard, who knows....

[Jak_bot]

Thanks for the info nickfrost... I agree with your thinking, once a persons number gets called, its up to the individual to pass everything and make themselves appealing to get hired.


I have a couple of family members who were hired off of exam 3000 and neither one of them had a hook, prior LEO, prior military, nor actual degrees - although both did meet the minimum qualifications. Actually one of them was given right up until the start of the academy to get the necessary number of college credits.

The way I have always looked at it is that being its civil service, once they get to your number on the list, as long as you pass everything you are in. Hell even if you fail the poly or psych you can appeal it and a lot of the time win - which one of my family members also did.

Granted the people I know who have been hired over the years could be the exceptions to some higher standard, who knows....

[ARMY8300]

I do not see what is so hard about the new standards. I mean 12 and change for a mile and a half is a joke. Any person who can't pass the minimum standard with 12 weeks lead time lacks the desire for this job. I have seen total fat bodies pass a harder physical fitness test at the end of eight weeks of basic training.

[skeezix]

hoe exactly is the physical conducted? Do you do the run, push ups and sit ups one right after each other with out breaks? Is it done in groups? where do you do the run, push ups and sit ups? How do the count the push ups and sit ups?

[gbotj]

no one knows, this is the first time they are doing this new physical.

for pushups, they will have a line on the floor where your hands go, and a sponge on the floor. Your finger tips touch the line, and your chest hits the sponge. If you do not hit the sponge the pushup does not count.
for situps, your hands must be behind your head (figers not interlaced) and your elbows must hit your knees then you come all the way down.

[JD10]

what was the old physical test like? how many pushups, situps ect. ? Does someone hold your feet during situps?

[gbotj]

there was a small run (I think 50 yards)
sidestep
situps
squat thrusts
and one or two other events

[MTAhopeful]

Its just like the MTA police physical

Sit & reach ( stretch test)
29 Push ups in a minute
38 situp in a minute

1 1/2 miles in under 12:29

That is the hardest it will be. If you get into the older age bracket the amount of push-ups and sit-ups goes down and the run time goes up.

They use the COOPER STANDARDS for this physical. Google it you will get some info. Usually its push-ups, sit-ups(they hold your legs down) and then the run.

By the time I was done training for this physical I could do all 4 events...one after the other w/o stopping. That's when you know you are ready for the actual test. Bang out push ups, sit-ups and then go run mile and half.

[seethelight]

I am guessing that the rest of the stuff, i.e. medical, poly, and head dr will be over the next 12 weeks. It said on the bottom of the physical that you must be medically cleared first. Does that mean that you have to go to your own dr and get a note or does that mean that the ncpd mini medical is the approval?????

I can SEE THE LIGHT...no more big job.

[gbotj]

when you recieve notice for the physical (date, time etc) they will send a form to bring to your personal doctor and have it cleared.
for previous processing, the physical was at the end of processing. right after the polygraph.
They may do it as the 1st step after the BI to weed out the candidates early.

[gbotj]

btw, there is no sit and reach anymore and no one knows what % on the coopers NCPD is going to use

SCPD uses 50% and I think NYSP uses 60%.

[seethelight]

This is the cooper 40

[seethelight]

This is the cooper 40. So its 40%.

[joeycp]

Will NC Civil Service allow a candidate to postpone a job offer? In other words, if there is a class in Jan 2009, can a candidate postpone the job until the next class (tentatively summer 2009)? My wife is a teacher on maternity leave and I can't take the pay cut unless she is back to work...

[ARMY8300]

btw, there is no sit and reach anymore and no one knows what % on the coopers NCPD is going to use

SCPD uses 50% and I think NYSP uses 60%.

[ARMY8300]

I have a letter from NCPD. 20-29 yrs old 29 push ups, 38 sit ups and 1.5 mile run 12:29. Your fingers are interlocked throughout the situp or it does not count.

[gbotj]

in suffolk they didnt want your fingers interlocked. I guess nassau is different.

[ARMY8300]

It's just like an Army PT test. Fingers interlocked or the repetition does not count. Elbows must pass the knees in the up position and the shoulder blades must touch the ground in the down position or they don't count.

[skeezix]

Is the physical a pass/fail or is it graded somehow? If for some reason you cannot perform anyone of the 3 parts, do you fail the whole thing?

[PBXTech]

If its like suffolk county there is a grade of pass or fail for each event, If you fail 1 event you dont get to go to the next.

[ARMY8300]

According to the notice I received in the mail, You do the push ups then the situps then the 1.5 mile run. If you fail any portion you are DQ'd and sent packing.

[joeycp]

what is a testing block for pushups? and what kind of bench for the sit-ups?

[gbotj]

Nassau just settled an extension on their contract to push retro pay back two years.

for years 2012-2015 each year will recieve 3.5%
Top pay will now be $130,000 in 2015.

The county proposed this raise to postpone retro checks to the year 2011, its basically a "well give you another 20k over 3 years if we can hold off on giving out retro checks"

Members still have to vote on this.

[Jak_bot]

Does the county really benefit from this? Won't this make the retro checks bigger when they get around to giving them out?


Nassau just settled an extension on their contract to push retro pay back two years.

for years 2012-2015 each year will recieve 3.5%
Top pay will now be $130,000 in 2015.

The county proposed this raise to postpone retro checks to the year 2011, its basically a "well give you another 20k over 3 years if we can hold off on giving out retro checks"

Members still have to vote on this.

[gbotj]

yes, but they believe that by 2011 their financial status will be better.

[Jak_bot]

gbot, Ahhh I figured that was the reason.

[gbotj]

plus the retros wouldnt be any bigger. They are already paying them the money the retro would cover from this time to 2011. Its just that they are going to cut the check later on rather than now.

[Su114pD]

Sup guys. I've got a question that maybe someone can shed some light on. I graduated from the NCPD accademy in the March 05 class for the State University Police job I'm on now. I didn't take the NC 3000 exam, but did take the 7000 and scored 87.xxx...My question is if I'm lucky enough to get called, will I have to go through the accademy again or just some in service training? I'd hate to have to do it all over again, but would in a heart beat.

[gbotj]

I'm 99% sure you will have to do it all over again.

[Su114pD]

I'm 99% sure you will have to do it all over again.

If that's the case I don't mind. I've still got all my books so the academic part will be a lot easier. Hopefully I get looked at.

[ChiefOfMe1]

Nassau just settled an extension on their contract to push retro pay back two years.

for years 2012-2015 each year will recieve 3.5%
Top pay will now be $130,000 in 2015.

The county proposed this raise to postpone retro checks to the year 2011, its basically a "well give you another 20k over 3 years if we can hold off on giving out retro checks"

Members still have to vote on this.

Did this extension touch upon starting salary or the top pay steps, if not I'd say it sucks.
Top pay now is I think 116K in 2012 its 2008 why settle for something that far away (2015) if its not a unbeatable deal.

[seethelight]

Does anyone know what part of january the class will be, beginning middle or end.

[dapc131]

Anyone have information if the academy started today or if it got pushed back again?

[formerFAM]

Anyone have information if the academy started today or if it got pushed back again?

[ArmySean]

so did the new list come out yet?

[seethelight]

Sssshhhhhhhh... its too noisy in here.
Just spoke to a bud...jan is still looking good but unknown what part of jan.

[ArmySean]

thats for the first class of the new list? so do they have a list together yet?

[PBXTech]

Does Nassau actually put an offical list together for everyone to see like Suffok does?

[raider34]

Does Nassau actually put an offical list together for everyone to see like Suffok does?

I believe they do, people from the last exam had all recieved list numbers. I hope they send them out soon, I am dying to see where I am on the list.

[idrisbey]

Does anyone know the duty chart/schedule for Police officers. Someone mentioned they work 4 on 4 off
I have also heard that they work 2 on 3 off then 3 on 4 off. Can anyone confirm this.
Do rookies start out with a different chart then switch over?
Gbotj, you seem to have some accurate information regarding Nassau PD. Please respond.

[gbotj]

NCPD uses chart orange. 12hr tours 2 on 3 off, 3 on 4 off.
Some can opt to work 10hr tours 4 on 4 off. 12hr tours are far more common.
All PO's have the same chart, you will just fall on different squads.

[FordRanger]

gbotj......... Thank you for sharing the info you know about Nassau PD

[FordRanger]

I called Nassau Civil Service.... They stated we are working on the list.... it will be out soon......??????? I would assume it's all computerized and scantroned and has been completed for over a year... Just waiting to be published... Whats there to "work" on????? ..... Anyway that is the latest offical update via telephone. .... What ever its worth....

[gbotj]

Ford, I wish I had an answer for you. CS likes to drag their feet......all CS departments do.

[PBXTech]

I called Nassau Civil Service.... They stated we are working on the list.... it will be out soon......??????? I would assume it's all computerized and scantroned and has been completed for over a year... Just waiting to be published... Whats there to "work" on????? ..... Anyway that is the latest offical update via telephone. .... What ever its worth....


I also called and they told me there will be an offical list by the end of the year.

[Max67]

If Suozzi's proposed budget becomes a reality that will eliminate approx 100 spots for candidates to be hired off this list. Anyone know the amount that was budgeted to be hired off list #7000?

I originally heard around 600.

[ArmySean]

this would never happen at a regular job you send in a resume and they get back to you in a year and a half you got to love the way things work

[10-40]

I was under the impression that CS law requires when a test is given, the results must be released within a year.

[EverUpward]

The results were given out within the year,, we are waiting on a list to be established to see our stats compared to the thousands of others who got their results ;)

[10-40]

The results were given out within the year,, we are waiting on a list to be established to see our stats compared to the thousands of others who got their results ;)

I was referring to the establishment of the list. Thought that had to be within a year.

[raider34]

I was referring to the establishment of the list. Thought that had to be within a year.

I thought so too, I could have sworn I read that somewhere.

[thecongo]

has anyone here that has already seen there BI have any idea if they have actually gone around interviewing friends/family etc??? I sent in my paperwork 3 months ago and i still have no call from my BI. I know that some of you guys already saw your BI a whole 3 months ago...any updates??

[kaptr1d]

has anyone here that has already seen there BI have any idea if they have actually gone around interviewing friends/family etc???

I know that at least one of my neighbors has been interviewed because she pulled me aside and said something about it. I would assume that the others have been questioned as well but there's no guaranteeing it.

[thecongo]

I know that at least one of my neighbors has been interviewed because she pulled me aside and said something about it. I would assume that the others have been questioned as well but there's no guaranteeing it.

when did you meet with your bi

[seethelight]

I heard from my BI that the BI was done and was sent to Civil service for approval. Wondering what is next... I know physical is late nov early dec, but what about poly, medical, and head dr. Time is going to fly so be prepared and try not to think about it so much.

[gbotj]

the physical will be the last step. Next will be the medical (you'll take the written psych the same day as the medical. I think NCPD only uses the MMPI, so its only 600 questions), then after the medical/written psych will be the oral psych. Then the poly, then the physical.
Since the physical will be in late Nov/early Dec the class will go in around mid-late january. They need to invite everyone back for call backs to get pictures taken, measured for uniforms, lists of equipment/supplies, Q&A, etc.

[kaptr1d]

when did you meet with your bi

early august was my first meeting.

[kaptr1d]

a friend of mine works at the academy at hawthorne. he says that he was processing paperwork yesterday that will push the january academy back. didn't know how far back. he said it had to do with a budget cut.

[seethelight]

Hhmmmm....

[genemona]

Keep dreaming....there is a budget crisis right now. Everyone is being told to stay away from overtime. I was told the Jan class will not be taking place. Who knows? The county can change their mind at the drop of a hat. I have my fingers crossed that something will happen sooner rather than later!!!

[idrisbey]

NCPD uses chart orange. 12hr tours 2 on 3 off, 3 on 4 off.
Some can opt to work 10hr tours 4 on 4 off. 12hr tours are far more common.
All PO's have the same chart, you will just fall on different squads.

Thanks.

[ArmySean]

at this rate it will be two years after the test before the hire anyone

[hope2getacall]

i have a question, i had reconstructive knee surgery 10 yrs ago. i will have no problem passing the phys. what do u think my chances of getting hired whith that type of injury?

[skeezix]

Ill tell you a story to maybe help give you an idea. The Nassau test before the 03 test ( i don't remember what year it was), my cousin took his physical but failed because he had surgery a few years before where he had to have a small amount of his intestines removed. He took the 03 test but passed the physical the second time around. The first time, they were concerned about him being a liability or something since the surgery was relatively recent. I guess the 2nd test showed he maintained good health all of those years in between. So I guess as long as you have not had any problems since the surgery, it shouldnt be a problem.

[seethelight]

How does january look? And no rumors from the peanut gallery.

[raider34]

I am just wondering, with the 2007 exam isn't THE LIST good for 4 years. So wouldn't that mean that the list has 4 years from the time its established (which hasn't happened yet). Not really sure how this is going to work since they still haven't sent out a actual list. Anyone got any insight on this? Thank you.:confused:

[gbotj]

as of right now, we're not dieing on the list. The clock has not started yet.

[raider34]

as of right now, we're not dieing on the list. The clock has not started yet.

Ok got it. Thanks for the quick reply

[kaptr1d]

one source said that the january academy will only be pushed back by a couple of weeks.

my other source said it would pushed back to june of 09.

i dont know which one is right yet but when i do, ill put it out there.

[thecongo]

Ill tell you a story to maybe help give you an idea. The Nassau test before the 03 test ( i don't remember what year it was), my cousin took his physical but failed because he had surgery a few years before where he had to have a small amount of his intestines removed. He took the 03 test but passed the physical the second time around. The first time, they were concerned about him being a liability or something since the surgery was relatively recent. I guess the 2nd test showed he maintained good health all of those years in between. So I guess as long as you have not had any problems since the surgery, it shouldnt be a problem.

so he actually took the test and failed...and then appealed? or did they automatically disqualify him?

[skeezix]

[QUOTE=thecongo;1427383]so he actually took the test and failed...and then appealed? or did they automatically disqualify him?[/QU

I was very young when this all happened, but as far as I know, he failed the physical and re took the 2003 test. He got in maybe 2 years ago.

[skeezix]

[QUOTE=thecongo;1427383]so he actually took the test and failed...and then appealed? or did they automatically disqualify him?[/QU

I was very young when this all happened, but as far as I know, he failed the physical and re took the 2003 test. He got in maybe 2 years ago.

[joeycp]

If they move the Jan 2009 class back to June, will we still be taking the physical in November?

[joeycp]

If they move the Jan 2009 class back to June, will we still be taking the physical in November?

[seethelight]

Waiting to hear what's going on with a jan or june class. Hope I will hear soon. Anyone heard

[MTAhopeful]

When are we going to get our list numbers in the mail? I remember for the last exam in Jan 2003...scores were recieved Dec 2003 and list numbers were mailed out seperately when the list became established in mid-March 2004.

[PBXTech]

When are we going to get our list numbers in the mail? I remember for the last exam in Jan 2003...scores were recieved Dec 2003 and list numbers were mailed out seperately when the list became established in mid-March 2004.

I called civil service a few weeks back and they told me "By the end of the year".

[ChiefOfMe1]

Hey gbotj have you heard any news regarding the first class?

I called the applicant processing unit & asked regarding a 92.3 & explained that my info was handed in around June she said you where the 3rd saturday of people, there are alot ahead of you and that they are assigning investigators in grade order, so there is no time frame as of yet on when a investigator would call for a one on one, thats just some news for all of us with 92's & lower if anyone else has any updates please post them.

This economy is killing us who are waitin on a academy, hopefully it does not get that bad were they do as suffolks doing & postpone classes till 2010!

[gbotj]

I havent heard anything new. Latest I heard, the jan class was only pushed back a few weeks. It should still be between Jan and Feb. March the very latest.

The economy may be bad, but the department still budgets for recruits. I have not heard of or seen any orders that cut back on hiring.

[Max67]

According to my investigator, phase 2 of the BI is after all the paperwork is submitted, you are selected by civil service then you are then called in for the polygraph, medical and physical.

I was just reading thorough the thread when I came across this post. Just to clarify, in regards to the NCPD hiring process, your BI performs the general background investigation like the interview, reviewing your paperwork, calling your employer, visiting your home etc. then after all that is done he submits your "file" to civil service and they decide whether or not you're qualified for advancement in the process?

So basically its not your BI who actually makes that decision, although I'm sure he makes a recommendation, but instead it's a Civil Service board? I was aware of a BI duties prior to this however I was in the dark about the process as a whole. I know its called a Civil Service test for a reason but I was just hearing conflicting reports. :D

Just hoping someone can clarify. Thanks.

[gbotj]

the BI will attach a "certified/recommend for hire".

[Max67]

Ah ok, makes sense now. Thanks for the reply.

[keith619]

I started backround may 17th. I have already submitted my blue packet, went back in for my personal interview, and my bi already conducted a neighborhood investigation. I recieved my letter for the physical in nov/dec. If your grade is 93 or higher you should be in the first class early 09.

[ChiefOfMe1]

I started backround may 17th. I have already submitted my blue packet, went back in for my personal interview, and my bi already conducted a neighborhood investigation. I recieved my letter for the physical in nov/dec. If your grade is 93 or higher you should be in the first class early 09.

anyone with a 92 get a call from thier BI investigator. I got a letter saying we can schedule you for the physical anytime after 12 weeks of receipt of the letter, but no dates.

[kaptr1d]

If your grade is 93 or higher you should be in the first class early 09.

How many people do you think scored above a 93 on the exam?

I scored above a 93 and I've already had my BI completed, neighbors interviewed, etc just waiting on the next step.

I was told that the first academy will only be around 40 people and that I am on the verge of being in the first academy, but no guarantee.

[joeycp]

I too scored above a 93. I met my investigator, received the notice for the physical, but my neighbors have not been interviewed. I wonder if they will still hold the physical in Nov/Dec if they push the academy back a few months...

[ArmySean]

I was talking to a LT and he said that they are like The troopers that on avrage they have to call 10 people to fill one slot so to fill 40 slots they would have to call 400 people

[gbotj]

There were only 170-200 people that scored above 91 on the exam.

Army, alot of people say that about every job but its actually more like 5 people for 1 spot. On the last list they hired about 600 officers, and the last list numbers called were around 2400. That means 4 people were called for 1 position. With the 91+ on this new exam they have roughly 180 people for 40 positions, thats 4.5 people called for 1 position. If they did do 10 for 1 they would have to call 6000 people for 600 positions. Theres not even going to be 6000 people on this list.

[PBXTech]

There were only 170-200 people that scored above 91 on the exam.

Army, alot of people say that about every job but its actually more like 5 people for 1 spot. On the last list they hired about 600 officers, and the last list numbers called were around 2400. That means 4 people were called for 1 position. With the 91+ on this new exam they have roughly 180 people for 40 positions, thats 4.5 people called for 1 position. If they did do 10 for 1 they would have to call 6000 people for 600 positions. Theres not even going to be 6000 people on this list.


Do you have any idea what the next group of numbers they call will be? Or do you have any idea how many people are from 91-81?

[gbotj]

nope, cant even guess on those two lol.

[PBXTech]

nope, cant even guess on those two lol.

It was worth a shot.

[waspcv8]

This is for all the people complaining about Navy Veterns getting points even though what they did was not as dangerous as the Army or the Marine Corps. While you were in a bar hanging out with your buddies till 2 in the morning I was down in the engine room working 70, 80 90 or more hours per week with temp. that went over 100 degrees. On the average sailors put in over 275 days a year and Uncle Sam don't pay no OVERTIME. In my five years in the Navy, four on a ship I have known the fear of God and had to react. I went into the Navy because I WANTED to not because I HAD to. People like you always seem to think they are to good for the service and look down on those of us who have served.

[gbotj]

where did anyone say Navy shouldnt get points? Last time I checked they were part of the military, and should be treated as such....and that means recieving the 5 pts (or 10 for disabled vets)

[krash131]

where did anyone say Navy shouldnt get points? Last time I checked they were part of the military, and should be treated as such....and that means recieving the 5 pts (or 10 for disabled vets)

In MASS, I believe all Navy vets are considered disabled because they may have worked on a ship containing asbestos. Don’t know if the same will apply in NY but maybe its something you can check into.

[NorwichCadet]

does coast guard stil get points? they are not part of the military anymore am i correct? they're part of homeland security?

[orlandofed5-0]

does coast guard stil get points? they are not part of the military anymore am i correct? they're part of homeland security?

Yes. Coast Guard members are military members and under certain times of war fall under Department Of The Navy however they have never been apart of the Defense Department.

[JD10]

I not sure anyone said anything about the Navy? or military points for that matter

[joeycp]

How will the budget crisis effect the physical/next academy class?

[BlackHmmaer]

Anyone with updates?? I know my BI hasn't contacted my current supervisor yet, or my references.

[ChiefOfMe1]

92.3 here & no initial contact from my bi, maybe they are ending the 1st class at 93 or 94's.

[thecongo]

92.7 here...still havent even met with BI. Sent paperwork in June.

[gbotj]

just keep on keeping on. They'll contact you, its just a matter of time.
I havent heard anything new on the class, not too sure if its still Jan or not. If it is, then expect to meet your BI's within the next couple weeks, and start other steps. To be honest though, I dont think it is going to be a Jan class. Its just not enough time to finish BI's, do physicals, polys, medicals, psychs, and call backs. If it is Jan, then expect it to be around the end of the month, or Feb.

[ArmySean]

so no one has heard anything yet huh?

[Ford4x4]

Looks that way, I wonder when they will actually begin processing again. Once that occurs, at least we know an academy will be in the foreseeable future.

[seethelight]

Just read that bloomberg is cutting the jan 09 class for nypd. He is also raising property taxes and income taxes. I heard that jan 09 still looks good for ncpd.

[seethelight]

P.s. Has anyone heard from nassau cops regarding the 50 year old retirement. I know feds are saying that you can't get your pension until your 50

[kablaam]

If you got on Nassau why would you want to retire before 50????

Really, they delayed the "ruling" till 2011 and the large national police unions, NAPO etc. are looking into the issue to amend it.

Fact is, on a Police Pension you already pay Federal Taxes. The Federal Government isn't in the position to start dictating state, city or municipal government employment benefits. If anything I see the State creating a new Tier for new hirees instituting these rulings or instituting a "penalty" on your 457 early distribution(pre 50 Y.O.)

Or how about a generous employer(private sector) offering a 10 year retirement plan, how can anyone prevent such a thing?

Or imagine for instance, a 40 Y.O w/ 19 years on duty about to retire and now you have to tell him/her no, you have to work 10 more years. This person already transitioned his entire life, financially, socially etc. on retiring next year. If this is the case, I see a mass exodus from law enforcement pre 2011, something that many local govt's aren't prepared to handle.

http://www.nypdrecruit.com/NYPD_BenefitsOverview.aspx

One of the hiring perks/benefits of many law enforcement jobs is "Optional retirement at one half salary after 20 years of service ". Reality is, many of the cops I know have their CPA, law degree,Pharm.D etc.. and would make much more money in the private sector. THey took the job as a cop to obviously make a difference, but also for the perks offered. To take it away in the middle of your career, after you already committed yourself would leave many questions.

My .02

[seethelight]

Talkative group.

[skeezix]

not much to talk about since nothing new has come up in months.

[kaptr1d]

I don't want to come off like I'm some all knowing power or anything but my friend's mom works at the NCPD academy and she told him that she personally filed the paperwork that canceled the January academy.

She said that she didn't know if it would be in early February or anytime after that but that according to the paperwork she filed it was 100% that there would not be a Jan academy.

I would love to bite my tongue and believe there's a Jan academy but don't get your hopes up.

[ArmySean]

did she say anything about when there would be a list?

[raider34]

I am also dying to know my list number. I have called Nassau County Civil service, and they told me the list should be out before 2009. Of course back in June they said the list would be out by August, I really don't think anyone has got a clue when it's going to be released.

[NorwichCadet]

honestly what is goin on? What is so hard about this process? 1 it's a scantron 2 you get a list number based off your score end of story.

[raider34]

Norwich I have been wondering the same thing. I personally believe the list has been established for awhile and it just hasn't been released yet. How else could they have started processing people if there isn't a list established? I just hope they send the list numbers out soon. I scored an 80 :( and want to know if I have a chance at getting called off this list.

I think all of us waiting for our list numbers should march down to Nassau Civil Service and demand them. :D

[skeezix]

I remember hearing how all of the testing companies get the papers scored ASAP because they get paid faster. I caint imagine a list not being establish well over a year after the test took place.

[WildCard1616]

Does anyone know if this was a particularly low scoring affair? I got an 86 and thought that was pretty low. Not sure if this was addressed yet. A list # would be GREAT, i mean its only been over a year.

[raider34]

It's all speculation right now, but from what I have heard on this forum and others is, around 8500 - 9000 people took the exam. I am not sure how many people passed, but the scores did seem to be low. In just the first group of people the called they got down to around 93. Going just by the last exam I would say if you have a list number ( if we ever get them) under 2500 you have a very good chance at getting called.

[NorwichCadet]

I remember hearing how all of the testing companies get the papers scored ASAP because they get paid faster. I caint imagine a list not being establish well over a year after the test took place.

this last test they went down to 82.5 or somewhere around there. And this was from a bigger group of candidates

[kaptr1d]

I spoke to another contact I have in the NCPD today and he said things are really bad budget wise.

They are taking away the cars from high ranking officers... they are turning off even the outside flood lights at night, hallway lights, etc.

He said they can't even buy ink and toner for printers because Staples has cut them off for not paying their bill.

I don't know when the next academy will be, but it doesn't look good.

As far as the list being established goes: you DONT want the list established. The day the list is established is the day you start the countdown to expiring on the list. They have to establish the list to hire people so it's going to happen.

If they establish the list earlier, and the next academy is a long ways off, then your window of opportunity just gets smaller.

[gbotj]

They are taking away the cars from high ranking officers... they are turning off even the outside flood lights at night, hallway lights, etc.

The order for this came down about 2 months ago.
I read it, and this is what I remember

1. Officers are advised to park, walk, and talk to save gas
2. AMTs will park buses in fixed locations between calls to save gas
3. Records Bureau will shut off all lights that are not neccessary at night
4. Hallway and Exterior lights will be shut off
5. BSO will continue to have take home cars but will be parked at local
station houses to cut back on gas

there were about 5 more, all about saving electricity, gas, paper etc.

[NorwichCadet]

The order for this came down about 2 months ago.
I read it, and this is what I remember

1. Officers are advised to park, walk, and talk to save gas
2. AMTs will park buses in fixed locations between calls to save gas
3. Records Bureau will shut off all lights that are not neccessary at night
4. Hallway and Exterior lights will be shut off
5. BSO will continue to have take home cars but will be parked at local
station houses to cut back on gas

there were about 5 more, all about saving electricity, gas, paper etc.

i guess it adds up? what's next PRIUS patrol cars? lol

[POCHEDDAR]

i guess it adds up? what's next PRIUS patrol cars? lol

You Didnt hear about the new Segway Highway Unit?

http://i38.tinypic.com/fc2t76.jpg

[NorwichCadet]

You Didnt hear about the new Segway Highway Unit?

http://i38.tinypic.com/fc2t76.jpg



do they even have motorcycles anymore??

[seethelight]

They don't have motorcycles anymore. They are now using the chinese delivery scooters

[joeycp]

Has anyone heard anything from their investigator? I think it is weird how we got letters for the physical and haven't heard anything...

[blackcharger68]

I ended up gettin an 84.5 or so, what are my chances? :-\

[WildCard1616]

I got an 86 and havent gotten anything, so I dont know pal. Who knows if theyre even still hiring.

[ArmySean]

i got a 90 and i still never heard anything

[kaptr1d]

the list hasn't been established yet. they cant go any further then the BI until the list is established. they aren't going to call anyone below ~93 until they've at least started to do the next steps of the process with the guys that have already been called.

its not that you wont get called EVER. you just have to wait until the list is at least established and from there your timetable becomes a lot shorter.

[MTAhopeful]

now that the economy isn't doing so great do you guys nassau is still going to do any hiring from our exam?

[EverUpward]

Say who? what? where?!? *&^%$#@

[NorwichCadet]

put it this way....my dad works for sanitation and it just came down that most of his overtime got cut...lol when santiation overtime gets cut u nkow something is wrong

[MTAhopeful]

When is the next NCPD class going in?

There is a class currently in which is the last class from the 2003 exam. Wen are we getting our list numbers? It has been about 1 year and 4 months since we took the exam and 7 months since we got our scores and still no list numbers damn it.

[blackcharger68]

yea i know, damn i wish i coulda scored a 100, but then again i thought i did...freeking strongly agree/disagree questions..

[MTAhopeful]

the NY State trooper test was even worse than the nassau. I walked out of that test thinking I scored off the charts meanwhile I did horrible.

This test I got an 87 which some are telling me will be good enough to get called.

[JD10]

Has anyone heard anything about the new york state police? Im assuming they are on hold as well...

[FordRanger]

gbotj

Any word on the March class for Nassau... Does it still look good..

[gbotj]

hevent really heard anything, cant say for sure about march. It'll most likely be sometime in the spring

[MTAhopeful]

Taking one of the most drastic steps yet in their efforts to solve Nassau County's fiscal crisis, county officials said today that they would push to lay off 207 police officers -- 5 percent of the force -- to help close a budget gap.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E7D9123EF931A25757C0A9669C8B 63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

[krash131]

Taking one of the most drastic steps yet in their efforts to solve Nassau County's fiscal crisis, county officials said today that they would push to lay off 207 police officers -- 5 percent of the force -- to help close a budget gap.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E7D9123EF931A25757C0A9669C8B 63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

The article says it was published in April of 2000, but hopefully the county wont try something like that again

[ArmySean]

I think that this is the second time that article has made its way to this thread

[ARMY8300]

Bumped into a 17 year veteran NCPD officer this weekend. He says he heard the academy is still on but won't be until Feb or March. But he isn't the county executive and hopefully they don't postpone it much longer.

[thecongo]

I dont think anyones posted this yet...



Nassau County Legislature
Approves 2009 Budget
Major Cuts Made to Suozzi's Proposal
By Carla Santella

Citing the most severe economic conditions in the past two decades, the Nassau County Legislature voted on Wednesday, Oct. 29 to approve an amended 2009 county budget in a 10-9 vote along party lines. The approved budget includes significant cuts in essentially every county service to the budget recently offered by County Executive Thomas R. Suozzi, with no effect on the 3.9 percent tax increase.

Presiding Officer Diane Yatauro (D-Glen Cove) said, "This was perhaps the hardest decision I have had to make. These additional cutbacks, beyond what the administration first proposed, will affect many people. It is the last thing we in the legislature wanted to do, however, the economic reality of the last eight weeks has made these cutbacks necessary."
Nassau County Presiding Officer Diane Yatauro addresses the approved Nassau County 2009 budget, calling it "perhaps the hardest decision I have had to make."

In response to the fiscal impact of the Wall Street crisis, the budget includes substantial cuts to virtually every department and to numerous programs, after diligent work with each county department in an effort to make the most reasonable reductions.

Some of the largest cuts were made in the following areas:

There will be no budgeted salary increases for the approximately 700 non-union employees throughout the county. This includes employees at the County Legislature, the County Executive's Office, the County Clerk's Office, the District Attorney's Office, the County Comptroller's Office and the County Assessment Office.

By adopting a voluntary four-day workweek initiative, the county hopes to attract 100 of their 8,500-member workforce to opt into the program. This will result in $1 million in savings.

The county plans on not replacing 200 employees who leave county service. This translates to a $7.5 million savings and brings the county closer to the goal of streamlining the size of government.

The 2009 budget will create a new sub-object code under the general tax levy to capture the anticipated $4.2 million in value of new construction that will occur in the county in the upcoming year. It is important to note that in its June 3 Preliminary Report of Findings and Recommendations, the New York State Commission on Tax Relief stated, "The commission proposes capping annual growth in the property tax levy at 4 percent, or 120 percent of the Consumer Price Index (CPI), whichever is less. New construction, which results in an increase to the tax levy, may be added to increase the capped amount." The commission also set forth a specific recommendation that "New construction should be added to the levy limit. The construction of new homes and businesses, and major additions and renovations of existing buildings, expand the school district's tax base without affecting existing taxpayers. This new growth should be added to the levy cap each year."

Salaries in some departments have been amended to subtract $6 million from the budget, which reflects a decrease in anticipation of givebacks of 1 percent of the average 3 percent raise by various county labor unions.

The school crossing guard budget line will receive a $1 million reduction with no layoffs or reductions in benefits. School crossing guards will continue to be positioned at every location that is currently staffed and will be compensated only for time spent working in title. Prior to this budget, crossing guards were performing clerical work in the Nassau County Police Department during the time schools are not in session. While not the largest cut in the budget, this issue was certainly the most vocal. It was standing room only in legislative chambers on the day of the vote as a large number of uniformed crossing guards were present to protest the cuts. Jerry Laricchiuta, president of the Civil Service Employees Association (CSEA), was there in support of the employees. Also present was Nassau County Police Commissioner Lawrence W. Mulvey, under whose purview the crossing guards work.

The sales tax has also been re-estimated to a growth of one-half of 1 percent, compared to a previous estimate of a 2.1 percent growth.

In announcing the budget adoption Presiding Officer Yatauro said, "The public should know this lengthy process of examining every county department line by line was painstakingly taken and intensely debated. The end result of all our analysis and discussion has positioned us close to $30 million in additional savings for our taxpayers."

Budget Review Chairperson Leg. Judy Jacobs (D-Woodbury) said, "Difficult economic times require extremely difficult decisions to be made on a basis of fiscal integrity and honesty which is not compromised. I am proud to be part of a team that has done so much to ensure that the county never returns to 1999 when it was on the brink of bankruptcy."

Minority Leader Peter Schmitt (R - Massapequa), speaking for the Republican delegation of the Nassau County Legislature, was critical of the budget, and said the GOP legislators had wanted County Executive Suozzi to eliminate his proposed 3.9 percent property tax increase, make good on promises to add detectives to fight surging heroin and gang problems, and to maintain funding for vital youth programs. "Times are tough in Nassau County," said Leg. Schmitt, adding, "Republican legislators have been warning Suozzi for years that the county spending was too excessive. The current downturn in the economy has only exasperated a desperate situation.

"We have all been forced to tighten our belts and stretch our dollars further; Mr. Suozzi must now do the same," he said. Having proposed a 5 percent cut to his legislative budget, the legislator said, "There is no reason this cannot be done countywide. Salary cuts can be made by eliminating 'vacant-but-funded' positions which have become a staple in Suozzi budgets.

"There's not another bailout in sight for Nassau County," Leg. Schmitt continued. "Now is the time to take action to cut current spending. Now is not the time to raise taxes for anybody. It is regrettable that our county executive's first instinct in a budget crisis is to raise taxes." Leg. Schmitt added that a 5 percent cut in countywide department spending would add up to $22 million in savings. "I think our suggestions were thoughtful and fair, "he said. "All budgets are supposed to plan for rainy days - and it's pouring!"

Regarding the legislature's approval of the 2009 budget, Nassau County Comptroller Howard Weitzman said, "This year the members of the Nassau County Legislature were faced with anything but 'business as usual' when it came to approving the county's spending plan for 2009 after the budget process was wrestled to the ground by an unprecedented worldwide economic crisis that has greatly changed the financial outlook for the county. But the county executive and majority lawmakers have risen to the difficult task of making tough decisions. Their amendments to the 2009 budget will help the county begin to cope with the real possibility of harsh economic times ahead. Together, we have begun the hard work of facing the fiscal tsunami that now confronts us all."

Comptroller Weitzman added that the county "may have only just started down that arduous path. With these amendments, the administration and majority members have given the county a financial framework to start with, but as future events unfold in the near term, it will become obvious if more aggressive action might be necessary. I am confident that they will continue to do the right thing for the hard-pressed taxpayers of this county."

County Executive Suozzi said, "I commend the Democratic-led legislature for acting very responsibly in the face of this economic downturn, which could even worsen, depending on state actions. The reduction in anticipated sales tax revenue was one of the major reasons the legislature took action."

Presiding Officer Yatauro said she wished to "thank County Executive Tom Suozzi for his invaluable assistance in this process. His staff worked with our staff around the clock for weeks to bring this budget to fruition."

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[MTAhopeful]

I don't see anything that specifically mentions the NCPD

[cbioc329]

HAHA me neither....except for the crossing guards....

[MTAhopeful]

well for the last exam in 2003 i got my score in late dec 2003 and I got my list # in March of 2004. Where are our damn list numbers?

[MTAhopeful]

any budget cuts with the nassau police class like the NYPD had?

[PBXTech]

well for the last exam in 2003 i got my score in late dec 2003 and I got my list # in March of 2004. Where are our damn list numbers?


I called civil service for some entertainment.

She said "Hopfully the list numbers will be sent out by the end of this year"

[genemona]

Taking one of the most drastic steps yet in their efforts to solve Nassau County's fiscal crisis, county officials said today that they would push to lay off 207 police officers -- 5 percent of the force -- to help close a budget gap.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E7D9123EF931A25757C0A9669C8B 63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

Find a new line of work. What kind of research was that? When is the last time you heard of a NCPD cop being laid off? Let me know how the new job works out for you, and no, I don't want to super size that!

[2971511]

WTF,, That article is ALMOST 8 years old..... ???????????? what are you doing ?????????????

[joeycp]

did anyone actually get laid off in 2000? i remember reading about it, but i don't remember what happened...

[jerry40]

Wow this threads dieing little by litte.....how bout them list #'s??? Lets start making bets, I'm saying April any other guesses??

[PBXTech]

So much for getting list numbers in 2008.

[krash131]

I vote July

[Max67]

As long as the clock has yet to start running on the #7000 test I'm not going to be too impatient when it comes to getting this list.

Multiple people have called CC and they repeatedly said that a list has yet to be established so unless they're just stringing us along I'll take it as the four year countdown on this list is not yet running. Time will tell.

I do know for a fact that they have been sending out DQ letters to some applicants who were called over the summer and met with their investigator. So it seems that they're still working on trying to get a group to advance to the next phase of the process.

[Brendon]

Where do you request information on the tests and how to become apart of a scheduled test date?

[10-40]

As long as the clock has yet to start running on the #7000 test I'm not going to be too impatient when it comes to getting this list.

Multiple people have called CC and they repeatedly said that a list has yet to be established so unless they're just stringing us along I'll take it as the four year countdown on this list is not yet running. Time will tell.

I do know for a fact that they have been sending out DQ letters to some applicants who were called over the summer and met with their investigator. So it seems that they're still working on trying to get a group to advance to the next phase of the process.

What is the common reason for the DQ?

[jerry40]

What is the common reason for the DQ?

Usually cuz you don't have a hook.

[MRRBEST]

Usually cuz you don't have a hook.

Thats too funny, probably sad but true....

[Natsirt01]

Where do you request information on the tests and how to become apart of a scheduled test date?

Sit around and wait, till its up on there CS website, Probably going to be a few years till the next one.



http://www.nassaucivilservice.com/NCCSWeb/homepage.nsf/WebAnnouncements?OpenView&count=100&12200912824

[Brendon]

Sit around and wait, till its up on there CS website, Probably going to be a few years till the next one.



http://www.nassaucivilservice.com/NCCSWeb/homepage.nsf/WebAnnouncements?OpenView&count=100&12200912824

Thanks.

So you just need to wait until the Police Officer Position Pops up? I thought you'd have to go into the department and request a Personal History Statement or something..

[gbotj]

test comes every 4 years. Next one will be in 2011/2012

[Natsirt01]

Thanks.

So you just need to wait until the Police Officer Position Pops up? I thought you'd have to go into the department and request a Personal History Statement or something..

Hurry up and wait, thats the name of the game. wait....take the test, wait.....get canvased....wait...get invited to the PAT....wait..Meet your BI, and soforth

[Brendon]

Hurry up and wait, thats the name of the game. wait....take the test, wait.....get canvased....wait...get invited to the PAT....wait..Meet your BI, and soforth

I recently got a letter from Karl Kampe, head of the Civil Service Department, telling me he'd put me on a mailing list and that I'd have to ... well, wait.

I don't mind the wait, since by the time it happens again, I'll have a Degree. I'm only 17.

Does Nassau County have a Ride Along Program?

[Natsirt01]

I recently got a letter from Karl Kampe, head of the Civil Service Department, telling me he'd put me on a mailing list and that I'd have to ... well, wait.

I don't mind the wait, since by the time it happens again, I'll have a Degree. I'm only 17.

Does Nassau County have a Ride Along Program?


I don't see why they won't have a ride along program. If you real want to pass the time you could join the Auxiliary Police when you turn 18. Why they even have an Aux communication unit.

http://pdcn.org/auxpolice.htm
http://www.nassaucountyauxiliarypolice.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

[ShantyIrish]

I recently got a letter from Karl Kampe, head of the Civil Service Department, telling me he'd put me on a mailing list and that I'd have to ... well, wait.

I don't mind the wait, since by the time it happens again, I'll have a Degree. I'm only 17.

Does Nassau County have a Ride Along Program?

I think they do. But there may be certain restrictions. First, is age. I think at least 18..don't quote me though. Then I think they like to know the reason you're interested ie; a journalist, a Crm Jst major, a visiting foreign officer...Call their PIO(public info office) main dept number is 516-573-7000 ask for PIO and ask them. I think they make you sign a form holding them harmless if you should get injured or worse...

[MTAhopeful]

What is going on with these list numbers? The test was given in August 2007 and 1 1/2 later with no list numbers. Is there a hiring freeze for NCPD?


Previous exams...
1994..I think exam was thrown out
Jan 2003...last class was put in on sept 2008
Aug 2007...still no list numbers

[perpwatcher]

I really didn't want to take the Nassau test but now I regret not taking it. Good luck to the guys who took it I hope you hear something soon!

[Natsirt01]

there been alot of talk of the Nassau PD list, I don't think i've seen Nassau CS ever post a list. But if they do the longer the wait the better for everyone who took the test. Also I believe some people on here have already begun processing .

[Brendon]

I don't see why they won't have a ride along program. If you real want to pass the time you could join the Auxiliary Police when you turn 18. Why they even have an Aux communication unit.

http://pdcn.org/auxpolice.htm
http://www.nassaucountyauxiliarypolice.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

I do plan on doing that, even though they say joining won't get you any special treatment when being considered as a PO, it does make you look better.

[Natsirt01]

I do plan on doing that, even though they say joining won't get you any special treatment when being considered as a PO, it does make you look better.

At the very least I believe you get a fee wavier for there CS tests.

[Arms & Hammers]

At the very least I believe you get a fee wavier for there CS tests.

I didn't get any wavier when I took the Nassau County test but my Aux. Police Commissioner wrote a very nice letter of recommendation to give to my NYPD and NYCD investigator.

[Natsirt01]

I didn't get any wavier when I took the Nassau County test but my Aux. Police Commissioner wrote a very nice letter of recommendation to give to my NYPD and NYCD investigator.

I wasn't sure if Nassau got a wavier, I know the Suffolk Aux and pretty much all vollies in Suffolk get a wavier.

[FordRanger]

Well lets all hope this is the week the list is established, and forward progress begins. (If not with The County itself, then at least with the villages.) The villages can't hire until the list is established.

BTW sorry to all of you who excitedly clicked on this hoping that there was going to be good news. That happens to me all the time too.

-FordRanger

[10-40]

BTW sorry to all of you who excitedly clicked on this hoping that there was going to be good news. That happens to me all the time too.

-FordRanger

You realize that about 1,000 guys did just that, right? You're killing me.

[gbotj]

and now you and I did it too.

[ArmySean]

it is really sad. I check this page almost everyday after work to see what people are saying.

[binzo]

me too and to see if any info on suffolk county

[MTAhopeful]

Damn it I want to know my list number already. We are approaching 1 1/2 years since we took the exam and still no list numbers. For the last exam the list numbers were sent approx 2 - 3 months after the scores. I got my score last week of dec 2003 and my list number came in march of 2004.

[jerry40]

You'll drive yourself crazy waiting.....act like you never took the test....get a decent job and move on with your life. Your looking at hirings off test 7000 well into 2012/2013. In the meantime stay out of trouble and stay in shape!! Thats the advice all the old timers give out.

The rumors people speak of on here of the next academy and when list #'s will come out are just that.....rumors. Rarely if ever has somebody said something that turned out to acually happen. Dates are mysteries with Nassau PD....Don't believe me???? Just read through the dozens and dozens of pages on this thread.

[gbotj]

Uhhhhhh alot of these rumors were right.

The academy was set for November, we posted it, it got pushed back. Academy was pushed to January, we posted it, it got pushed back.
Now its set for March, but to be honest, it might be pushed back again.
Keep the rumors coming because so far they've been spot on while they were current.

[jerry40]

ahhhh gbot.....I knew you'd chime in on this one. Post on here when the next academy will actually start.....don't give a date then say "sorry it was pushed back" anybody can pick a date and do that. Post a date on the site when an academy will actually go in and NOT get pushed back then ill say you've got relevent info. I must say your like an encyclopedia with Nassau PD but when it comes to dates NOBODY knows for sure till the last minute. Take it from somebody who's older than you with much more expeirence in life. When I was 19/20 I thought I knew the world too. I knew NOTHING and I'm sure others on here will feel the same way.

[nickfrost]

ahhhh gbot.....I knew you'd chime in on this one. Post on here when the next academy will actually start.....don't give a date then say "sorry it was pushed back" anybody can pick a date and do that. Post a date on the site when an academy will actually go in and NOT get pushed back then ill say you've got relevent info. I must say your like an encyclopedia with Nassau PD but when it comes to dates NOBODY knows for sure till the last minute. Take it from somebody who's older than you with much more expeirence in life. When I was 19/20 I thought I knew the world too. I knew NOTHING and I'm sure others on here will feel the same way.

I don't think Gbotj comes across as being someone who thinks he knows everything about the world. He has stated in the past that due to his family connections and position that he hears a lot of things regarding Nassau PD - including whats going on with hiring. Now anyone would be foolish to simply believe what any one person says when it comes to civil service hiring with Nassau (or any large municipality) especially on a message board but when you start hearing the same "rumors" from different sources well you can put a little more faith into it. As someone who is 32 and does have some decent life experience (10 years in the corporate world and having gone through the hiring process before with multiple agencies years ago) I appreciate what Gbotj brings to the table - whatever info that is.

[gbotj]

Okay jerry, I will post no more information. You dont like being in the loop, fine. Doesnt affect me. I'd rather know whats up, then being left in the dark.

You want a date, I'll let you post it when you find something out. Until then, my PMs (as always) are open to anyone who wants to know CURRENT information.

Sooo, I know the world huh? Okay, next time I'm told something, I'll just say "gee thanks for the information, but I obviously think I know everything, maybe you should tell this info to someone a little older than me."

[gbotj]

Oh and by the way, my "rumors" were 100% fact. The academy was 100% set for January. A rumor is something you hear that holds little weight. My info comes right from the PA.

[ShantyIrish]

The truth of the matter is NOONE knows when an academy will be held. Most of the job doesn't know until the week before or at the very least the week of....The only time anything is "100% fact" with Nassau and it's hiring is when you've got the recruits standing in formation in suits on day 1 in the academy lot....Usually they'll come out with an inter-departmental order about 8-10 days in advance. Anybody telling you any different is just passing on the latest in rumors to you...trust me on this one.

[kaptr1d]

I have several different sources within the NCPD and at the academy itself and everything posted on here was true until they decided to push the dates back... why would anyone want to stay in the dark and be unprepared when an academy is scheduled?

No one can help it if the dates get changed, but I know if I didn't know anyone inside, I'd want to have access to that info just like everyone on here does.

[gbotj]

there was never a set date, just months the instructors were told to prepare for a scheduled academy.

They actually set the date 1 month and a few days prior for call backs and orientation. About 1 week before it starts the order will come down.

[jerry40]

Maybe I didn't address my point clearly. All I'm saying is that dates for list #'s or future academies are almost always false (AKA "pushed back"). All other info is for the most part extrememly accurate and appreciated.

[ShantyIrish]

Getting your ducks in a row and trying to be prepared is a good thing. Of course having the "inside track" is helpful. But don't get caught up with it. Stay prepared, keep your applicant investigator up to date with your info, stay on the right track. You'll be fine.

What I'm proposing to you and others here is even your sources with-in the job and the PA are merely passing on info based on projections. Not actual fact. As stated, you must trust me on this, the people you're speaking to don't make the rules or orders. 1 West Street calls the shots. Ask any recent PA graduate about their hiring process. I can't tell you how many times a class was scheduled, internally, and was pushed back anywhere from a day to a few months....for anything to some bean counter realizing a money savings if they delayed the class to the following pay period to rescheduling bacause some chief was going to be on vacation those days...You would not actually believe some of the reasons/ways classes get scheduled...There's a reason why they call 1490 Franklin Ave the puzzle palace....guys on the job for 15-30 years can't figure that place out.

Don't get all caught up in the drama. LIke I said, stay straight, keep your stuff tight and it'll happen...

Keep this in mind...they generally like to get a fresh class out in time for summer to reduce the effect of the senior people taking vacations.

[jerry40]

Getting your ducks in a row and trying to be prepared is a good thing. Of course having the "inside track" is helpful. But don't get caught up with it. Stay prepared, keep your applicant investigator up to date with your info, stay on the right track. You'll be fine.

What I'm proposing to you and others here is even your sources with-in the job and the PA are merely passing on info based on projections. Not actual fact. As stated, you must trust me on this, the people you're speaking to don't make the rules or orders. 1 West Street calls the shots. Ask any recent PA graduate about their hiring process. I can't tell you how many times a class was scheduled, internally, and was pushed back anywhere from a day to a few months....for anything to some bean counter realizing a money savings if they delayed the class to the following pay period to rescheduling bacause some chief was going to be on vacation those days...You would not actually believe some of the reasons/ways classes get scheduled...There's a reason why they call 1490 Franklin Ave the puzzle palace....guys on the job for 15-30 years can't figure that place out.

Don't get all caught up in the drama. LIke I said, stay straight, keep your stuff tight and it'll happen...

Keep this in mind...they generally like to get a fresh class out in time for summer to reduce the effect of the senior people taking vacations.

+100000000
Well said.

[asdft]

Well I always check this thread everyday, and I want to just thank Gbotj for all the info he shares with this board. I doubt we would have half the information on this thread if it wasn't for him. So I say keep those so called "rumors" comming.

[jerry40]

Well I always check this thread everyday, and I want to just thank Gbotj for all the info he shares with this board. I doubt we would have half the information on this thread if it wasn't for him. So I say keep those so called "rumors" comming.

U check the thread everyday yet you just joined and only have 1 post? :rolleyes:

[asdft]

U check the thread everyday yet you just joined and only have 1 post? :rolleyes:

I knew somone would mention that. I had an old account Raider34 but, I couldn't sign in anymore I'm not sure why. I just registered a few days ago again. Also did it ever occur to you that a person could check this thread everyday and not have an account.

[jerry40]

Also did it ever occur to you that a person could check this thread everyday and not have an account.

Good point. I'm jus bustin chops, anyways welcome back.

[ChiefOfMe1]

Looks like we are all SOL huh!

Suozzi's news release regarding laying off 250 Cops if the unions dont give up benefits, might just be a scare tactic as it usually is, but be sure this means any new academys are postponed for a while. Also if you have a job now, lets say NYPD or other private sector decent gig, how willing are you to leave knowing that there were threats to fire the previous rookies in the position your applying for. 250 guys should be about 4 or more academys worth of cops thats alot of academys before your job would be safe.
Any comments?

[Nero22]

I am not holding my breath for either Nassau or Suffolk at this point. Im just gonna keep my hopes up that in 3 yrs our country will be back on its feet, and when the test comes around again, take it and get the job then.

[onthefirstbeat]

where is Nassau County? or Suffolk County? is it in upstate new york? 3-4 hours driving? i'm born and raised in the city so i don't know where those places are...

[kingofqueens718]

where is Nassau County? or Suffolk County? is it in upstate new york? 3-4 hours driving? i'm born and raised in the city so i don't know where those places are...


:eek:

[gbotj]

wow....just wow...

[jerry40]

where is Nassau County? or Suffolk County? is it in upstate new york? 3-4 hours driving? i'm born and raised in the city so i don't know where those places are...

Do you wear a helmet?

[kingofqueens718]

Do you wear a helmet?

Funny story....when I was 8 years old my mom went on a trip to Nassau, Bahamas. For the first few days of her trip I swore that she was in Nassau County till my dad told me where she really was. {lol}

[Brendon]

where is Nassau County? or Suffolk County? is it in upstate new york? 3-4 hours driving? i'm born and raised in the city so i don't know where those places are...

Either people from NYC are getting more ignorant, or this is a bad joke.

[krash131]

where is Nassau County? or Suffolk County? is it in upstate new york? 3-4 hours driving? i'm born and raised in the city so i don't know where those places are...

. . . . . . .wow. . . . . unbelievable . . . . . . . .

[Ranger72]

where is Nassau County? or Suffolk County? is it in upstate new york? 3-4 hours driving? i'm born and raised in the city so i don't know where those places are...

Nassau:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9849/nassaugp2.gif (http://imageshack.us)


Suffolk:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/706/suffolkpk2.gif (http://imageshack.us)


There might be some Jet lag....

[onthefirstbeat]

why don't they just call it long island...it'll be easier to understand..

[gbotj]

uhhh gee I dont know. Maybe because Queens and Brooklyn are essentially part of long island. Not to mention, theres 2 countys on long island. Suffolk and Nassau.

[Ranger72]

Kind of a tangent, but if Nassau and Suffolk counties were combined in to one city, it would be the largest city in the country.

[onthefirstbeat]

uhhh gee I dont know. Maybe because Queens and Brooklyn are essentially part of long island. Not to mention, theres 2 countys on long island. Suffolk and Nassau.

queens and brooklyn are part of long island?

[gbotj]

............... Instead of asking questions. Why dont you just check out google maps.

[GoldBadge]

I'm reading some of these posts and all I can say is God help the citizens of Nassau County (I am one) if some of these posters get hired.

[Brendon]

I'm reading some of these posts and all I can say is God help the citizens of Nassau County (I am one) if some of these posters get hired.

God help the citizens if anybody gets hired from Nassau County.

[Ranger72]

queens and brooklyn are part of long island?

Yes:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6338/newyorkmetromapbh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[GoldBadge]

God help the citizens if anybody gets hired from Nassau County.

Well gee Brendon, I was gonna ask you why you would say that :rolleyes:, but since you're banned :), I guess you wouldn't be able to answer. :p

[dapc131]

In anticipation of more good news hopefully coming out in the next few days with the village guys going down to the academy, I thought it might be a good idea to dig up this thread so we have one NCPD thread instead of multiple threads like the city guys. Sorry it you clicked on the thread thinking there was exciting news:(

[jerry40]

I called April on list #'s 4 months ago.....lets hope I'm right.

[Brendon]

Well gee Brendon, I was gonna ask you why you would say that :rolleyes:, but since you're banned :), I guess you wouldn't be able to answer. :p

I said that since Nassau County doesn't do hirin' much since they are at ends with the Justice Department.

[threewishes]

Google map is a great start



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[jerry40]

I'm hearing list #'s within the next 2 weeks from multiple people.

[nyballer31]

I'm hearing list #'s within the next 2 weeks from multiple people.


That can be a good thing or a bad thing.IF they put that list out and have no intentions of hiring for a year or two and the people they do hire are miniscule then that won't be cool.

[MTAhopeful]

lets get these list numbers already

[jerry40]

Fellas, with about 300 upper brass being basically "forced" into retirement, you should expect at least 300 hires off test 7000. Keep in mind hires off the 03' test went into 2008. And the 03' tests list didnt take close to 2 years to be established. Things will get active soon. New hires will be well into 2013.

[Max67]

Just to put it in perspective:

NCPD Exam #3000

Test Given: January 2003

-Approx 1yr to receive the scores

Scores Mailed Out: December 26, 2003

-Approx 3 Months to establish list after scores received

Eligible List Established: March 18, 2004


NCPD Exam #7000

Test Given: August 2007

-Approx 9 Months to receive scores

Scores Mailed Out: May 2008

-Approx 11 Months and counting

Eligible List Established: ???


The #3000 list was set to expire in March of 2008 but was extended for 6 months and expired in September of 2008.

So all in all exam #3000 took a total of 14 months to establish the list. With #7000 we're at 20 months. So not a huge difference but its safe to say the economic climate definitely played a part in slowing things down. Either way once it happens as has been said many times before, this list will be around for awhile.

[Su114pD]

I was just advised List numbers were mailed out today by someone from NC Civil Service! I was also advised that I could come down between 9 a.m. and 4:45 p.m. to see where I am on the list. I'll just wait for the mail lol. Anyone who doesn't believe me feel free to call them yourselves.

[PBXTech]

PDjoe posted this in the other thread. You can check your list numbers online.

http://www.nassaucivilservice.com/NCCSWeb/homepage.nsf/0/8268324FB25F5E618525758B004F902A/$FILE/PO7000RESULTS.pdf

[binzo]

31xx for me...i wonder if ill even get a call

[jerry40]

LOL i think the site crashed.

[ba9428]

i'm ranked in the 2300s and scored 85 for NCPD....do you think i will get a call?

[asdft]

Well good luck to everyone, hopefully they hire many officers. Looks like the list is alot bigger than people predicted.(I thought only around 9,000 people even took the exam). With around a ratio of 8-1, I would need Nassau to hire about 600 people off this list, looks like I'll have to take the next exam probably in 2013. Again good luck to everyone.

[nyballer31]

It doesn't look good for anybody who got low 80's on this test.

[Ford4x4]

Army Sean, heres how the pay will work out for you

Step 1 (assuming your hired in 2009) will be $34,000 (1 year pay)
Step 2 will be $45,000 (raise at the completion of 1 year)
Step 3 (step 3 is based on the year you will have your 3rd anniversary) will be $69,593

So at the completion of your Second year you will have 69k base pay. Prior to that it will be 45k but as much overtime as you feel like working. You are also paid weekly. You get a mini check, and a big check everyother week. The mini check is of your OT, night diff, uniform allowance, holiday pay and the big check is just of your base salary.

Hey guys, I just thought someone might be able to clarify something for me. I ran a search for NCPD salary and above is what gbotj wrote awhile ago about pay. I have one question concerning the top steps. I heard it mentioned that top pay after 8 years is approx $130,000, however, yesterday I heard from a colleague that top maximum pay is approx $96,000. So my question is, if I started as a rookie in 2009 (making $34,000), after 8 years on the force, what would my base pay be? I am just trying to draw comparisons between Nassau's pay scale, and that of Suffolk. Thank you in advance for any light you can shed on this for me.

[10-40]

Hey guys, I just thought someone might be able to clarify something for me. I ran a search for NCPD salary and above is what gbotj wrote awhile ago about pay. I have one question concerning the top steps. I heard it mentioned that top pay after 8 years is approx $130,000, however, yesterday I heard from a colleague that top maximum pay is approx $96,000. So my question is, if I started as a rookie in 2009 (making $34,000), after 8 years on the force, what would my base pay be? I am just trying to draw comparisons between Nassau's pay scale, and that of Suffolk. Thank you in advance for any light you can shed on this for me.

In the new contract, top pay (with a few bells and whistles) in 2015 is $150k. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

[Nero22]

How much of the score was based on the personality type questions. There were only like 10-20 questions were you actually had to use deductive reasoning, the rest of the test is what would you do in this situation and what type of person do you think you are. Apparently I'm a dip**** based on my score. Better luck next time I guess.

[10-40]

I know this has come up before, but, can anyone who has some concrete knowledge estimate what the true ratio of applicant to recruit is? I am referring to "They go through X number of applicants to get 1 in the academy?" In the past, there have been some very low (2:1) and very high (10:1) ratios suggested.