CBP San Diegans?

[ExSDSO]

I was just wondering if there is anyone out there in the process with CBP. Im just waiting for the BI to clear and wether or not ill be GS5 or GS7. How is it working the Ysidro Port or Otay Mesa?

[verbalkint4]

Hey SDSO,

I can't provide any specifics for you as I've never worked at either port but I did spend about five years working at LA/Long Beach. From what I have heard (anyone feel free to correct me) both ports are busy, busy, busy. There are plenty of opportunites for OT along with plenty of action if that's what your looking for (they don't call San Ysidro skid row for nothing). Ysidro is more of a passenger POE while Otay is more for commercial traffic. As long as you can stand sucking down car fumes all day, you should be okay. :)

[GB0610]

I started working at the LA/LB Seaport, then transferred down the the Passenger side of Otay Mesa. I was there for a little over a year.

What do you want to know?

Its a lot of standing on the line saying "que tri?" 4 hours on primary, 4 hours in secondary per shift. That's it. Its not a bad job overall. It is pretty taxing on the body though, being on your feet for 8 hrs. straight. Lots of aliens everyday, lots of dope. With CET, you'll be out on there on pre-primary roving. You could get a chance to work the cargo side at Otay. Its more slow paced.

If you have any specific questions, shoot. But if you are a former patrol deputy for the SO, realize that its nothing like being a cop. Your authority is not the same in any way.

[Sajahi]

Hey ExSDSO why did you leave the Sheriffs?
If you dont mind the question.

[Mabbottusmc]

Hey ExSDSO why did you leave the Sheriffs?
If you dont mind the question.


Did u give up your chance to be a real cop to be BP? U guys can't even arrest people.

[GB0610]

Did u give up your chance to be a real cop to be BP? U guys can't even arrest people.

That's a low blow.

They can arrest people, and do so EVERYDAY, with numerous arrests in a shift, sometimes upwards of 100. Its just not for your everyday crimes committed in the city. But that's not what they are there for.

They are there to arrest illegal aliens and dope smugglers at the border, not clean up the messes you miss (my return low blow:p). When was the last time you arrested someone for being illegal? You can't, you don't have the authority, that's why your gang unit guys love having ICE SA around. Its all the PC they need, PC you can't call upon based on not having that authority. Its no different for the PA who doesn't have the authority to arrest for CA State violations.

Its like comparing apples and oranges.

(As to why ExSDSO chose the PA over the SO, I have no idea. I know I would rather be doing your job, but that has nothing to do with your statement or the argument at hand)

[IrishLacrosse]

Did u give up your chance to be a real cop to be BP? U guys can't even arrest people.

First of all get a clue then come and talk. I bet your but couldn't last 2 weeks in Artesia. Agents I personally know are catching 20-30 aliens a day in San Diego. It's not as easy as you probably think. Just when I thought the moderators had kicked off all the stupid people....

[Mabbottusmc]

I can arrest 20-30 aliens a day. A matter of fact. Everytime I call the border patrol they won't come pick them up so we have to release them. And I know all about the drug busts. We have to handle the arrests. All they do is a simple narrative. Not saying that your job isn't important. But come on. How many DV calls are you going to a day?

I know it's over the internet so u can't hear my tone. I was joking, giving him a hard time. But we can argue all day if u want. It's not going to go anywhere.

[GB0610]

But come on. How many DV calls are you going to a day?
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Read my original post again.

Its all about authority and jurisdiction. Tell me how many times you have seen an ATF Agent make an arrest for DV. You haven't, because although they may have the authority (deputized by the Sheriff) they don't have the jurisdictions and will turn it over the your dept. instead because they are looking for violations that refer to their issues (alcohol, tobacco firearms and explosives) and whatever else they might find in their investigation into those things.

DV or other local crimes are not the only type of LE out there. Look at the world with a clear pair of glasses on, not through your own microscope.

[Fuzz]

First of all get a clue then come and talk. I bet your but couldn't last 2 weeks in Artesia. Agents I personally know are catching 20-30 aliens a day in San Diego. It's not as easy as you probably think. Just when I thought the moderators had kicked off all the stupid people....

One poor comment does not deserve another. Any officer or deputy working in southern california (and most parts of the country) could last 2 weeks catching 20-30 aliens a day in Artesia.

[madchiken]

The best part of all this bickering is that he didn't apply for BP. He applied to work at the port as a CBPO.

[GB0610]

One poor comment does not deserve another. Any officer or deputy working in southern california (and most parts of the country) could last 2 weeks catching 20-30 aliens a day in Artesia.

Fuzz-

Not that its really a big deal, but BP academy is in Artesia. They aren't actually catching aliens there. :)

[Fuzz]

Fuzz-

Not that its really a big deal, but BP academy is in Artesia. They aren't actually catching aliens there. :)

Thanks for the catch:D

[i8547]

This thread proves just how bliss ignorance is for some. For starters, as pointed out by madchicken, the original poster is looking to apply as a CBPO (Customs and Border Protection Officer). These are the guys at Ports of Entry that check vehicle, pedestrian, and commercial cargo traffic prior to their entry into the United States. They are not Border Patrol Agents, but simply employed by the same parent agency (Department of Homeland Security, CBP).

Secondly, unless you were mistakenly using CBPO's and the BP interchangeably Mabbottusmc, we (the USBP) have arrest authority. We arrest thousands of people everyday throughout the nation for Title 8, Title 18, and Title 21 crimes. We arrest dozens of others daily for other statues in the U.S. Code that are less common to be encountered in our line of work. We also arrest people left and right for municipal and/or state laws in states where we are sworn in as peace officers in additional to our authority as federal agents.

Furthermore, at my station (an East County station) we will gladly pick up any bodies picked up by other agencies and do so almost daily. I can't speak for every station though as management styles differ. Also, the only time we will ever turn over dope to you guys (or any other local agency for the matter) is if the load/circumstances won't meet our (strict) prosecution guidelines being that we are in the 9th circuit. So we obviously rather turn over the loads to a willing local or state agency that will be able to get some real time for the load drivers, mules, etc. Otherwise, we work solely in conjunction with the DEA on our dope loads.

And while you may hide behind the fact that you supposedly made your comments in jest, I guess I will jokingly keep driving the next time I see an SDSO unit on a single man t-stop since you guys are so much more adequately apt as law enforcement officers in the Great State of California. I will also jokingly go 10-6 the next time I am requested to translate for a SDSO Deputy. I suppose I can also jokingly forget my ability to sign-cut the next time we are requested to track out a 187 suspect for you guys in the East County who fled into the brush.

However, I suppose that would all be quite childish... so while I will continue to back my brothers and sisters in blue, tan, green, or brown and refrain from bashing those of them in the more specialized fields of law enforcement, you can stand off in the distance behind your keyboard atop your blissful soapbox filled with ignorance.

[GB0610]

This thread proves just how bliss ignorance is for some. For starters, as pointed out by madchicken, the original poster is looking to apply as a CBPO (Customs and Border Protection Officer). These are the guys at Ports of Entry that check vehicle, pedestrian, and commercial cargo traffic prior to their entry into the United States. They are not Border Patrol Agents, but simply employed by the same parent agency (Department of Homeland Security, CBP).

Secondly, unless you were mistakenly using CBPO's and the BP interchangeably Mabbottusmc, we (the USBP) have arrest authority. We arrest thousands of people everyday throughout the nation for Title 8, Title 18, and Title 21 crimes. We arrest dozens of others daily for other statues in the U.S. Code that are less common to be encountered in our line of work. We also arrest people left and right for municipal and/or state laws in states where we are sworn in as peace officers in additional to our authority as federal agents.

Furthermore, at my station (an East County station) we will gladly pick up any bodies picked up by other agencies and do so almost daily. I can't speak for every station though as management styles differ. Also, the only time we will ever turn over dope to you guys (or any other local agency for the matter) is if the load/circumstances won't meet our (strict) prosecution guidelines being that we are in the 9th circuit. So we obviously rather turn over the loads to a willing local or state agency that will be able to get some real time for the load drivers, mules, etc. Otherwise, we work solely in conjunction with the DEA on our dope loads.

And while you may hide behind the fact that you supposedly made your comments in jest, I guess I will jokingly keep driving the next time I see an SDSO unit on a single man t-stop since you guys are so much more adequately apt as law enforcement officers in the Great State of California. I will also jokingly go 10-6 the next time I am requested to translate for a SDSO Deputy. I suppose I can also jokingly forget my ability to sign-cut the next time we are requested to track out a 187 suspect for you guys in the East County who fled into the brush.

However, I suppose that would all be quite childish... so while I will continue to back my brothers and sisters in blue, tan, green, or brown and refrain from bashing those of them in the more specialized fields of law enforcement, you can stand off in the distance behind your keyboard atop your blissful soapbox filled with ignorance.

I love you!

[Fuzz]

Furthermore, at my station (an East County station) we will gladly pick up any bodies picked up by other agencies and do so almost daily. I can't speak for every station though as management styles differ.

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South County stations (CV and IB) are pretty good with our response times too. Its great when you have an adam henry with questionable immigration status. That is the PC way to say that right......it changes so often I cant keep up with the new lingo

[i8547]

Roger that, I wasn't trying to lessen those of you to our west, but only wanted to speak about what I know. Glad to hear you guys are 10-8 in that regard as well.

[Don951]

First of all get a clue then come and talk. I bet your but couldn't last 2 weeks in Artesia. Agents I personally know are catching 20-30 aliens a day in San Diego. It's not as easy as you probably think. Just when I thought the moderators had kicked off all the stupid people....

Agents should be catching more than 20-30 aliens a day. If their having problems, maybe they should start rounding up all the aliens in front of Home Depots each morning.

[ExSDSO]

Thanks for the information for those of you guys who stayed on topic =P We're all on the same team. The way I look at it is CBP and USBP do their best to prevent the garbage from coming through the border and SDPD, CVPD, SDSO catch the ones who slip by. Either way VDF SDCJ all have ice agents who work inside that put INS holds on these dirt bags once inside the jail.

I resigned for personal reasons. I went through the LE academy but was put in the Jail. Excelled off training and was put on the tac team inside the jail. I had a lot of fun and learned a whole lot from the deputies and supervisors inside of SDCJ. I dont think watching inmates all day and night was my thing.

My father in law kept egging me own about applying with CBP sooo I did. Im almsot done with the process. Just waiting for the BI and Qualifications on the CASS system. I always had dreams of working for a federal agency why not get my foot in with CBP. Although theres also a fire inside that tells me to continue or atleast try to make it on a department and patrol. Who knows maybe ill make it and go 10-8 and after the shift realize this ISNT what I want to do. Same thing could be said for CBP.

Thanks again everyone.

Madchicken thanks for pointing out that misunderstanding I literally read everything and then read your post and LAUGHED. Made my wife laugh too! =)

[GB0610]

ExSDSO-

Although I may get some slack for my comments here, I feel the need to warn you going to CBPO route. You may be disapointed when you realize its not all you think it is.

I started my career in LE with what was US Customs, now CBP. I spent some time down at San Ysidro doing the job you desire to do. Before I got there and found at that it was a very sedentary job, with little responsibility, with a tremendous amount of repetition, I was extremely excited about working there too.

But now iv'e been on patrol for about 2 years and realize what I knew all along. Local LE is where its at! Pushing a patrol rig is what I personally envisioned it would be and I love it. If that is what you always wanted to do, then don't rest until you are able to obtain it. Working down on the line at the border is NOTHING like being a patrol officer. And the experience you got in the jail will prepare you for the road more than checking cars at the crossing.

Because its not going to look good if after 2 years down at SKID ROW you decide to go the PD route and have to explain to your BI why you can't stick with one Agency.

Just my .02

[willowdared]

Aren't we all playing for the same team?

:)

[Sajahi]

Did u give up your chance to be a real cop to be BP? U guys can't even arrest people.

OUCH-LOW BLOW!!
Despite of what you think, I have arrested numerous people with loaded firearms,dope and illegal aliens. I have been in a couple high speed chases, foot persiuts, and have had to deal with group of aliens ranging from 1-20+ subjects with no back-up anytime soon.

In the short period of time that I have been working here I have taken nearly 1000 pounds of marijuana off the steet. I dont believe that you even have an idea of what we do, or how dangerous our job is.

I work in a very remote area, and we have been called to respond to Domestic Violence calls, even if that is not our job. And I was a Student Worker for a San Diego Police Dapartment last year, and I know exactly how an Officer's day goes by, so please dont feed me your BS.