Taxi & Limo Enforcement?

[leeza]

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/futrpilot3xx/nyctaxi101.jpg

Anyone know anything about this agency? I looked on the NYC Taxi & Limo Comm. website but I could not find a mention of any type of "enforcement" division (as you can see on the rear corner panel). One would assume the agency is still around (the copyright on the photo is 2005), but I can't find anything on them. Thanks in advance guys (and gals).:)

[hxd]

They had a job posting for a supervisory (chief?) position up in June of 2007. It's still available on the web here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/downloads/pdf/job_10079_c.pdf

That posting might give you a little bit of the information you're looking for.

[FL5OH]

Wow did you see how much money they make?

That's the salary for a Chief.

Those guys aren't cops, in fact they bust other cops' chops, and have a holier than thouh attitude because they work for a little known agency. Most of them wouldn't last 6 seconds on the street if they had to do real police work.

[leeza]

They had a job posting for a supervisory (chief?) position up in June of 2007. It's still available on the web here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/downloads/pdf/job_10079_c.pdf

That posting might give you a little bit of the information you're looking for.

Thank you. Do you know if they are peace/police officers? I can see a paramiltary structure with regards to ranks (chief, etc.) but I still don't know if they are enforcing laws. I would assume they are at least enforcing some part of the VTL if that lightbar is a color other than amber.

Wow did you see how much money they make?

Well that figure is for a chief's position. ;)

[leeza]

That's the salary for a Chief.

Those guys aren't cops, in fact they bust other cops' chops, and have a holier than thouh attitude because they work for a little known agency. Most of them wouldn't last 6 seconds on the street if they had to do real police work.

I see they don't have a good rep.:eek:

[hxd]

Thank you. Do you know if they are peace/police officers? I can see a paramiltary structure with regards to ranks (chief, etc.) but I still don't know if they are enforcing laws. I would assume they are at least enforcing some part of the VTL if that lightbar is a color other than amber.


They are designated as "Special Patrolmen" by the City. Under NYS CPL, they are sworn as peace officers as opposed to police officers. This gives them the authority to enforce laws in the scope of their duty, which generally includes enforcement of T&LC regulations and state and municipal laws regarding the regulation of taxis, limousines, and certain other "for hire" vehicles. To the best of my knowledge, they are unarmed.

[gbotj]

they are NYC Special Patrolman who enforce hack licenses etc. anything related to taxi and limo commission. They can enforce VTL and NYC Traffic regs as well. not much of a LE job.

[leeza]

Thanks guys. Just keeping up on what agencies I should apply to. I won't bother with that one. I should have cracked open my CPL book because I don't even remember them being listed. I need the supplements for it anyway though. Thanks again.:)

[hxd]

Thanks for the reminder... I should order my PL and CPL updates, with the new year here and all.

For what it's worth, this has been also been discussed a couple times here.
http://forums.officer.com/showthread.php?t=53226
http://forums.officer.com/showthread.php?t=34735

[Dinosaur32]

leeza....Check CPL Sect. 2.10 Sub 27......T&LC inspectors are Special Patrolmen appointed by the Police Commissioner maintain their Peace Officer powers off duty. I do not believe T&LC Inspectors are allowed to be armed by their job.

[leeza]

leeza....Check CPL Sect. 2.10 Sub 27......T&LC inspectors are Special Patrolmen appointed by the Police Commissioner maintain their Peace Officer powers off duty. I do not believe T&LC Inspectors are allowed to be armed by their job.

Looking at it right now. Ok yeah, middle of the paragraph specifically mentions this agency. And yeah, looks like they can't carry unless its pursuant to 400.00 of the penal and they're authorized by the agency. I figured they were peace officers. NYC had something a while back that I saw on the civil service site called "Special Officer." It was also a peace officer position and I never applied. Anyway, thanks Dino, you're always a help :).

[leeza]

Thanks for the reminder... I should order my PL and CPL updates, with the new year here and all.

For what it's worth, this has been also been discussed a couple times here.
http://forums.officer.com/showthread.php?t=53226
http://forums.officer.com/showthread.php?t=34735

Oh wow I didn't expect it to be discussed already. I thought it was relatively unknown due to the lack of information I found. Thanks.

[NYCTNT]

From my dealings and talking with TLC Officers.. TLC is a great gig with lots of overtime. They just do not like their current chief as she was an ex attorney and really tried to limit their plainclothes units as well as uniformed units on what their job duties should be. I believe she is on her way out and they can smile again soon.

Personally, I have had nothing but great dealings with TLC Officers.

I guess TBTA is not much of a LE job neither collecting tolls and stopping cars that are already stopped in a non working EZ PASS lane.

[gbotj]

"I guess TBTA is not much of a LE job neither collecting tolls and stopping cars that are already stopped in a non working EZ PASS lane"

thats totally wrong, most positions are enforcement related. TBTA has a highway unit that is solely dedicated to enforcement duties, a truck enforcement unit is being created and they also have a commercial vehichle enforcment unit. Toll work is often OT, and are most of the time staffed with temporary bridge and tunnel officers who have no law enforcement status. The bridge and tunnel officers who are assigned to a booth are not assigned for the whole tour, maybe just 2 hours or so and then is put either on a fixer or in a RMP. TBTA leads over MTA Police with issued summonses AND arrests yearly.

[NYSJAILER2008]

I Worked For Nyc Tlc And It Is Nyc's Best Kept Law Enforcement Peace Officer Job,,,,,we Drive Around In Marked And Unmarked Rmp With Light And Sirens,,,,,we Get The Same Cars As Nypd,,,we Work Closley With Nypd And Tbta,,,,we Seize Illegal Vehicles And Arrest Perps All Day Every Day In My 2 Years I Had 50-60 Arrests,,,and We Work City Wide Which Is All 5 Boros In The Baddest Neighborhoods,,car Chases,,,,uses Of Physical Force ,,its A Real Cowboy Job,,we Have All Nypd Equipment Vests,,, Cuffss,,,oc Spray,....asp Baton,,,nypc Detective Star Badge,,,,tax Id Etc ,,,,etc,,except Firearm,,,,,we Make Dangerous Car Stop 24/7 Livery Cars And Civillian Vehicles,,,,,we Issue Nyc Parking Tickets,,,,moving Violation Tickets,,,,criminal Court Summons,,,same As Nypd,,,,,,we Are 24/7 (nys)peace Officers And (nypd) Special Patorlman,,,,so We Have The Best Of Both Worlds Powers.......alot Of Retired Pd On The Job,,,,,,so Dont Knock It Until You Heard About It From A Tlc Officer

[FL5OH]

I Worked For Nyc Tlc And It Is Nyc's Best Kept Law Enforcement Peace Officer Job,,,,,we Drive Around In Marked And Unmarked Rmp With Light And Sirens,,,,,we Get The Same Cars As Nypd,,,we Work Closley With Nypd And Tbta,,,,we Seize Illegal Vehicles And Arrest Perps All Day Every Day In My 2 Years I Had 50-60 Arrests,,,and We Work City Wide Which Is All 5 Boros In The Baddest Neighborhoods,,car Chases,,,,uses Of Physical Force ,,its A Real Cowboy Job,,we Have All Nypd Equipment Vests,,, Cuffss,,,oc Spray,....asp Baton,,,nypc Detective Star Badge,,,,tax Id Etc ,,,,etc,,except Firearm,,,,,we Make Dangerous Car Stop 24/7 Livery Cars And Civillian Vehicles,,,,,we Issue Nyc Parking Tickets,,,,moving Violation Tickets,,,,criminal Court Summons,,,same As Nypd,,,,,,we Are 24/7 (nys)peace Officers And (nypd) Special Patorlman,,,,so We Have The Best Of Both Worlds Powers.......alot Of Retired Pd On The Job,,,,,,so Dont Knock It Until You Heard About It From A Tlc Officer

Need I say more, folks?

[leeza]

Need I say more, folks?

I think I'm beginning to catch wind of things. Thanks again for the heads up. I decided TLC just isn't for me. Just figured I'd check up on it incase it had something I'd like.

[NYCTNT]

why in the world did you make out as a fool and post like that?

[NYSJAILER2008]

why in the world did you make out as a fool and post like that?
what is the problem with my post MR.TNT??
the person asked about a job and none of anybody the replied know about the job becasue you were never on the job,,,,,i was so i wanted to answer the inquiry and disspell any thoughts of NYCTLC being a sucker agency ,,,,because,,,,we are new yorks's boldest,,,,and very proud agency,,,and its a stepping stone agency,,,,,mosy officers get their feet wet in the law enforcement field and move onto ,,,nypd, tbta,,,,papd,,,,amtrack pd,,,nyccorrections,,,,nys correction,,,court officer,,,,,with ease and the agengies are very happy to have us

[NYCTNT]

I thought it was NYC's proudest. NYC's Boldest is used for Corrections.

Your BASIC communicative grammer skills are horrendous. I am not a writer or heck, even a speller.. but wow, you use multiple commas and upper/lower case in between of a word.

If you typed NORMALLY with at least an attempt to use the commas(,) where they belong, or did not capitalize a lower case letter in between a word, MAYBE.. JUST MAYBE... someone would take you seriously.

I know this is the INTERNET, but if you are L/E.. try not to make your posts look like a 14yr old's MYSPACE page.

[NYSJAILER2008]

I thought it was NYC's proudest. NYC's Boldest is used for Corrections.

Your BASIC communicative grammer skills are horrendous. I am not a writer or heck, even a speller.. but wow, you use multiple commas and upper/lower case in between of a word.

If you typed NORMALLY with at least an attempt to use the commas(,) where they belong, or did not capitalize a lower case letter in between a word, MAYBE.. JUST MAYBE... someone would take you seriously.

I know this is the INTERNET, but if you are L/E.. try not to make your posts look like a 14yr old's MYSPACE page.
I CAN SURELY WRITE IT ANY WAY I CHOOSE. AND AS LONG AS YOU READ IT THEN I HAVE GOTTEN MY POINT ACROSS

[gbotj]

"I thought it was NYC's proudest."

thats TBTA

[co1669]

NYC corrections are the boldest not TLC

[NYCTNT]

TBTA doesnt have a NYC anything.

Proudest is reserved for TLC as it says so on their RMP's.

TBTA is not a ligit nyc agency. It is part of a NYS PBC.

[gbotj]

http://btoba.tripod.com/

check it out.

"New York's Proudest"

[FL5OH]

http://smiliesftw.com/x/roflfail.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

[NYCTNT]

That must be their new jingle.

[SCPS PO]

I Worked For Nyc Tlc And It Is Nyc's Best Kept Law Enforcement Peace Officer Job,,,,,we Drive Around In Marked And Unmarked Rmp With Light And Sirens,,,,,we Get The Same Cars As Nypd,,,we Work Closley With Nypd And Tbta,,,,we Seize Illegal Vehicles And Arrest Perps All Day Every Day In My 2 Years I Had 50-60 Arrests,,,and We Work City Wide Which Is All 5 Boros In The Baddest Neighborhoods,,car Chases,,,,uses Of Physical Force ,,its A Real Cowboy Job,,we Have All Nypd Equipment Vests,,, Cuffss,,,oc Spray,....asp Baton,,,nypc Detective Star Badge,,,,tax Id Etc ,,,,etc,,except Firearm,,,,,we Make Dangerous Car Stop 24/7 Livery Cars And Civillian Vehicles,,,,,we Issue Nyc Parking Tickets,,,,moving Violation Tickets,,,,criminal Court Summons,,,same As Nypd,,,,,,we Are 24/7 (nys)peace Officers And (nypd) Special Patorlman,,,,so We Have The Best Of Both Worlds Powers.......alot Of Retired Pd On The Job,,,,,,so Dont Knock It Until You Heard About It From A Tlc Officer

I don't even know where to begin.

I would be interested to see one of your onlines or 61's...

[NYCTNT]

At TpO: I riZpOnDeD tO dIz Job N dEn I lOcKeD ThIs CaT uP fOh HiTtIn HiZ Ol LaDiiii.

[SCPS PO]

As soon as I saw his quote about "cowboy job" I cringed.

It's atrocious that a person who supposedly wears a shield and is given enforcement powers comes off as a knucklehead. While we may be able to distinguish between a TBTA Officer or PAPD Cop, the majority of the general public does not that make that distinction. For them, a uniformed cop is a cop. When you come out in A PUBLIC FORUM with a cavalier attitude and refuse to accept suggestions to edit your posts so they are more coherant, you stigmatize all of us in LE as dumb, incompetent and unprofessional. Law enforcement is not all about kicking down doors or getting into wild car chases for the hell of it. We take doors to remove the criminal element and their contraband for the safety of the community they terrorize and to send a message that illegal activities will not be tolerated.

You claim to tell it for other readers of the forums but you offered nothing in the way of useful information about that particular job.

Ok, that's the end of my rant.

[gbotj]

wow SCPS. Very very well said. Probably one of the best things I have read on this forum.

well thought out, and actually made sense.

[Pekkier]

would one of the admins please remove NYSJAILER2008 from this community as well as block his IP address from creating more ID's.

[SCPS PO]

I could go on in novel length about my feelings and attitudes on this topic but the limitations of my mobile browser and limited time makes any comprehensive posting almost impossible. Any legitimate TLC Officers on the air to advise the OP on the scopes of your duties?

[leeza]

It's atrocious that a person who supposedly wears a shield and is given enforcement powers comes off as a knucklehead. While we may be able to distinguish between a TBTA Officer or PAPD Cop, the majority of the general public does not that make that distinction. For them, a uniformed cop is a cop. When you come out in A PUBLIC FORUM with a cavalier attitude and refuse to accept suggestions to edit your posts so they are more coherant, you stigmatize all of us in LE as dumb, incompetent and unprofessional. Law enforcement is not all about kicking down doors or getting into wild car chases for the hell of it. We take doors to remove the criminal element and their contraband for the safety of the community they terrorize and to send a message that illegal activities will not be tolerated.

You claim to tell it for other readers of the forums but you offered nothing in the way of useful information about that particular job.

+1.
I understand that the specific poster does not represent the agency he works for. I just find it funny that there was a comment about TLC officers being somewhat high strung and a bit off, and then I read a post like that. Just goes to show that there are a few tools in any given shed, that are, well, a bit dull. Funny coincidence though :p.

[aikido kid]

wow...... :o

[NYCTNT]

ahhh, I wouldnt get the feelings hurt over this guy.

take him with a grain of salt and as a poser. He prob is not even a "jailer"(those of us in the business KNOW THAT CO's dont like to be called JAILERS or GUARDS around NY), also, he said TLC is NY BOLDEST.. hes off target on many things.

[SCPS PO]

LOL, my feelings are far from hurt. I just had to speak my mind regarding his post.

You're right TNT, he's probably a square badge at Target or Stop and Shop who tries so hard imitating the paid detail cop.

[NYSJAILER2008]

NYC corrections are the boldest not TLC
YOU ARE RIGHT CO1669 I STAND CORRECTED

[NYSJAILER2008]

LOL, my feelings are far from hurt. I just had to speak my mind regarding his post.

You're right TNT, he's probably a square badge at Target or Stop and Shop who tries so hard imitating the paid detail cop.
SORRY SIT AT A DESK NYCTNT AND SCPS PO(MR. UNKNOWN OFFICER) I HAVE BEEN A NYS PEACE OFFICER SINCE 2006. I DONT EVEN SHOP AT LOW BUDGET STORES LIKE TARGET. BUT I KNOW WHEN YOU RETIRE THAT IS WHERE YOU WILL BE CHECKING BAGS AT.....LOL

[NYSJAILER2008]

And Ny Correction Officers Do Not Like To Be Called " Prison Guards"

[leeza]

Ahem. I some have comments that I will withhold. I'm still waiting for that legit TLC officer to show up though ;).

[gbotj]

well jailer, how nice to knock a fellow officers pay and retirement. Nothing negative was ever said about pay just the fact that you have the writing skills of a 10 year old.

[NYCTNT]

Leeza,

All I can say is from experience seeing TLC Officers in action and knowing what they do DO.

TLC has their own enforcement division to regulate all TLC licensed "for-hire" vehicles in within the 5 boros. They have PEACE OFFICER status under section 2.10. I have seen them plenty of times in central bookings with their collars. They also have PLAINCLOTHES squads and do have unmarked vehicles.

It is an unarmed and dangerous job, but make no mistake it is no security guard BS square badge job. They are out there and it truly is nyc's little secret. Although what sucks is their pay, they get paid peanuts on the dollar. I believe top pay is $39k with a retirement of 25yrs and out if you are younger than I think 25yrs old, or retire at 55yrs old if you are older than 25yrs old. Their rank and file structure is a little different as they do not have SGT's. They have Officer(inspector), Senior Officer(Senior Inspector), Lieutenant, Captain. I dont think there is anything higher than a Captain in uniform and there are NO Sergeants.

This is what I gathered with my experiences from them.

[SCPS PO]

SORRY SIT AT A DESK NYCTNT AND SCPS PO(MR. UNKNOWN OFFICER) I HAVE BEEN A NYS PEACE OFFICER SINCE 2006. I DONT EVEN SHOP AT LOW BUDGET STORES LIKE TARGET. BUT I KNOW WHEN YOU RETIRE THAT IS WHERE YOU WILL BE CHECKING BAGS AT.....LOL

First off, Target according to Wikipedia:

"Target stores tend to attract younger and more educated and affluent customers than its competitors. Currently, the median Target shopper is 41 years old, which is the youngest of all major discount retailers that Target competes directly against. The median household income of Target's customer base is roughly $63,000 USD. Roughly 76% of Target customers are female, and more than 45% have children at home. About 80% have attended college and 48% have completed college.[1][12] Ninety-seven percent of American consumers recognize the Target bullseye logo."

I guess you don't fall into that category. Target is far from a low budget store but rather a high end consumer store that caters to middle to upper middle class shoppers. So yes, I do shop at Target. No I will not be taking a job there when I retire.

Second, I am a Peace Officer in the largest federally subsidized private development in the United States. No need to name names but those that know or do a bit of googling would know. My duties include preserving the life and property of over 20,000 people. The only thing that is limited is my GAOE, not the scope of my duties.

Good for you in securing employment since 2006, I been gainfully employed my entire adult life. I wear a hash mark and my time spent in a civilian position in the New York City Police Department probably is more than your time OTJ in Corrections.

[gbotj]

"Second, I am a Peace Officer in the largest federally subsidized private development in the United States. No need to name names but those that know or do a bit of googling would know. My duties include preserving the life and property of over 20,000 people. The only thing that is limited is my GAOE, not the scope of my duties"

Starrett City?

[SCPS PO]

That is correct.

[gbotj]

for a while I've been trying to figure out what the hell job SCPS was, I was thinking an upstate department. I hear SCPS is a nice job.

[SCPS PO]

I have my share of complaints but ultimately you can say the same about every job. With all the recent headlines about our development pulling out of Mitchell Lama, and the interest of certain real estate corporations, I'm not sure if there will be a job left here in a year or so.

[NYCTNT]

Isnt it called Spring Creek now?

[SCPS PO]

Name change was in 03, same development. No changes in infrastructure.

[NYSJAILER2008]

Yeah Starrett City Is The Same As Co-op City Peace Offficers In The Bronx. I Know Your Job Well

[NYSJAILER2008]

Thanks For Your Advise And Wisdom

[SCPS PO]

Yeah Starrett City Is The Same As Co-op City Peace Offficers In The Bronx. I Know Your Job Well

There are distinct differences between Co-op City and Starrett City. For example, they use the word Police on their vehicles, patches, and Department letter head. We do not. They leave their weapons at the job upon completion of their tour. We do not.

[NYSJAILER2008]

There are distinct differences between Co-op City and Starrett City. For example, they use the word Police on their vehicles, patches, and Department letter head. We do not. They leave their weapons at the job upon completion of their tour. We do not.
OH OK I STAND CORRECTED. THAT IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. I KNOW CO-OP SAYS POLICE BUT THEY ARE PRIVATE OFFICERS WITH NYPD SPECIAL PATROLMEN STATUS AND THEY LEAVE THEY WEAPONS WITH THE ARSENAL/ CUSTODIAN OFFICER LIKE SEAGATE POLICE IN BROOKLYN. ARE STARRETT CITY OFFICERS SPCL PTRLMN OR DO THEY HAVE THERE OWN LINE IN THE CPL?

[SCPS PO]

Special Patrolman designation as per the CPL. We actually have guys on this job who work at Seagate as well. Seagate guys have their own subsection under CPL 2.10.

[NYSJAILER2008]

Special Patrolman designation as per the CPL. We actually have guys on this job who work as Seagate as well. Segate guys have their own subsection under CPL 2.10.

I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY THEY WOULDNT LET CERTIFIED ARMED PEACE OFFFICER THAT ARREST PERPS, MOST OFTEN VIOLENT CRIMINALS IN THOSE PRIVATE COMPLEXES THE RIGHT TO TAKE THEIR WEAPONS HOME. EVEN ARMED NYS SECURITY GUARDS GET A PERMIT AND TAKE THEIR WEAPONS HOME AND CAN PRACTICE AT THE RANGE:confused:

[SCPS PO]

The places which employ armed Peace Officers and restrict their employees from leaving the job with their weapons might be attempting to protect themselves from possible litigation if an officer was to get into an off duty shooting or a jam. It's a liability issue. Remember rule number 1 in LE, C.Y.A.

Just my opinion.

[NYSJAILER2008]

The places which employ armed Peace Officers and restrict their employees from leaving the job with their weapons might be attempting to protect themselves from possible litigation if an officer was to get into an off duty shooting or a jam. It's a liability issue. Remember rule number 1 in LE, C.Y.A.

Just my opinion.
TRUE STORY. WELL I GUESS SPRING CREEK IS MORE LIBERAL

[NYCTNT]

Spring Creek is in the confines of the 75, right?

VERY rough neighborhood, and I have respect for spring creek officers. You guys have your own K9 unit, plainclothes units and regluar patrols.

How often do you guys make collars? Do the bosses let you take the collars and get some OT or is it mostly handed over to nypd?

I went into the public safety office one day to speak to somebody over something and it was very precinct orientated, heck it even smelled like a precinct.

Co-Op city public safety do let some officers take their firearms home, it depends if they are very collar heavy, and/or have had threats made against them.

You guys write A's, B's and C's? I would imagine you guys write C's as you might have a lot of BS trespass arrests (unless you guys are under the Kings County DA's TAP program).

I cant imagine for the life of me why anyone from your job that pays a decent wage would EVER go to seagate that pays $8.50/hr starting pay. I would just assume they are buffs and want the crown shield and "police" ID card.

[SCPS PO]

Spring Creek is in the confines of the 75, right?

VERY rough neighborhood, and I have respect for spring creek officers. You guys have your own K9 unit, plainclothes units and regluar patrols.

How often do you guys make collars? Do the bosses let you take the collars and get some OT or is it mostly handed over to nypd?

I went into the public safety office one day to speak to somebody over something and it was very precinct orientated, heck it even smelled like a precinct.

Co-Op city public safety do let some officers take their firearms home, it depends if they are very collar heavy, and/or have had threats made against them.

You guys write A's, B's and C's? I would imagine you guys write C's as you might have a lot of BS trespass arrests (unless you guys are under the Kings County DA's TAP program).

I cant imagine for the life of me why anyone from your job that pays a decent wage would EVER go to seagate that pays $8.50/hr starting pay. I would just assume they are buffs and want the crown shield and "police" ID card.

TNT,

That is correct. We're good old sector Nora. We do have our Squad, Anti Crime, K9, Hell even a TARU. OT is only limited by how many pairs of cuffs you have when it comes to collars. Having worked every tour in uniform and crime, serious money can be made if you're a collar guy. If not, we have guys that heavy hit on OT just by doing tour coverage.

We are allowed to write A and B's BUT our bosses do not let us. The city refused to share revenue with the job so in turn we are prohibited. No incentive for losing us to AAB. In some instances some arrests that involved motor vehicle offenses, we have written movers as per your job.

We call the 75 RAM as a courtesy if we apprehend any one for a 30. Generally they take it but on occasion we put them through.

East New York is one of those neighborhoods that run the gamut when it comes to collars. It's just a question of ferreting a collar out if you're looking.

[SCPS PO]

We also issue ECB's.

[NYCTNT]

A 30 is a good collar! not too often can you actually find the guys!

Thats cool you give out a courtesy call to boost their #'s.

Gotta run to the gym,

LATER!

[SCPS PO]

We just recently closed out a pattern with the borough on a series of 30's. Our development has always been plagued by those that target the delivery guys.

[NYCTNT]

Its disheartening that the delivery guys that barely speak english get so scared when the police show up. They never want to press charges or help in the investigation. Dont they know that New York City is a DONT ASK DONT TELL city? I am not going to ask you if you are illegal and you dont have to tell me. If you are a victim, I treat you like a victim and not like a off the boat immigrant that got here via life raft.

Oh well.

Good job.

[SCPS PO]

It is what it is unfortunately. I speak the language and try to reassure them it's ok to ID these guys so we can take them off the street. 9 times out of 10 they're lucky to be alive and decline to even pursue the matter.

One of the few times a guy ID'd, he was gung ho about it. He chased these guys around until we showed up to collar them. Turned out before he came here (he was legal) he was a cop in China and told me he worked too damn hard to let some skells take his money. Quite a set on our CV, these guys were armed with steak knives and he never backed down.

Again, the exception, not the rule.

[NYCTNT]

ahh.. just to reinforce my previous post as TLC OFFICERS known as NYC'S PROUDEST.

To All Interested Parties:

TLC LAUNCHES "OPERATION: SECRET RIDER" TO ENFORCE PASSENGER BILL OF RIGHTS

The New York City Taxi and Limousine Commission (TLC) today launched a new undercover initiative designed to measure the compliance of medallion taxicab drivers with regulations prohibiting cell phone use and rudeness, allowing passengers to use credit cards for payment, as well as other regulations tied to the "Taxi Passenger Bill of Rights." The TLC will be assisted by Police Officers from the Surface Transportation Enforcement District (STED), who will also be undercover.

Operation: Secret Rider, modeled to some extent after the "secret shopper" quality assurance programs that have been successfully used in the retail and service industries, kicked off simultaneously today in various locations throughout the city. TLC Officers, also known as New York's Proudest, have been specially trained to simulate both local and tourist taxi passengers, and ride an unspecified distance to gauge drivers' performance in delivering the levels of customer service required by law.

Balancing the positive with the negative, TLC Officers will also be on the lookout for drivers that provide exemplary service, flagging them for consideration of honors at the TLC's Annual Driver Recognition Ceremony.

Said TLC Commissioner Matthew W. Daus, "Passengers deserve a driver whose full attention is to the job, and who is ready, willing and able to follow the Passenger Bill of Rights to a 'T.' Most drivers understand that they are professionals, working in a service industry, and do a great job. We believe this program will very effectively drive the point home to those who don't fully understand that fact, and prevent our having to stiffen penalties to make the same point.

"The bottom line is that drivers will never know whether their passenger is a
'Secret Rider', so the sooner they get their priorities in order, the better."


Selected Enforcement Categories and Associated Penalties

Driver may not refuse Passenger Request of method of payment, including credit card
->Fine: $150 - $350

Driver may not use a telephone while operating a taxicab, unless such taxicab shall be legally standing or parked
->Fine: $200, plus 2 Persistent Violator Program Points

A driver shall be courteous to passengers
->Fine: $150 plus 2 Persistent Violator Points

The Persistent Violator Program (PVP) accrues, upon conviction, points for
violations of TLC regulations typically specific to providing customer service. If a driver reaches a threshold of six PVP points within a 15-month floating window, the driver will receive a 30-day TLC license suspension. If a driver reaches a threshold of 10 PVP points within such a 15-month period, the penalty is automatic TLC license revocation.

While Operation: Secret Rider will be the most public aspect of this customer
service initiative, the TLC will be pursuing other avenues to ensure that passengers receive the highest levels of customer service to which they are entitled, and the Passenger Bill of Rights promises. For one thing, the TLC will be "beefing up" the Bill of Rights to include such things as "the right to pay by debit or credit card on request." This will put drivers on notice as to what is expected of them, as well as informing passengers about what is and what is not acceptable in terms of the regulations and code of conduct that all drivers must follow in order to provide the expected passenger experience.

The New York City Taxi and Limousine Commission (TLC) was created in 1971,
and is the agency responsible for the regulation and licensing of almost 200,000 yellow medallion taxicabs and for-hire vehicles, their drivers, and the businesses that operate and support their industries. It is recognized as the largest and most active taxi and limousine regulatory body in the United States.

To find out more about the TLC, or to review its rules, regulations and
procedures, we encourage you to visit our official web site at www.nyc.gov/taxi or call 311 in New York City, or 212-NEW-YORK from outside of New York City.

[gbotj]

maybe theyre NYC's finest since TBTA is not a city agency.

[griz71]

I am a active TLC officer, ask me any questions about the job and i will gladly respond back. I will tell you all about what the job entails and operations that we conduct

[ftdtetr]

I am a active TLC officer, ask me any questions about the job and i will gladly respond back. I will tell you all about what the job entails and operations that we conduct


please share your experiences/ opinions

[griz71]

The enforcement issue from TLC is we enforce the administrative laws of the city of New York in regards to the for hire indusrty, car stops are performed on medallion cabs and for-hire (black cars, livery cars etc.)if there are violations summonses are served to the driver or mailed to owners, illegal cars posing as car services are seized and owners must appear at court to retreive. Tlc Officers make arrests, testify in court, and issue same summonses as NYPD (moving violations, parking summonses crim. court)
we are issued handcuffs,mace and asp batons,(which is not enough)we make at least 100-200 car stops in a 24 hrs period. all officers are special patrolman in the city of New York and are New York State Peace Officers according to nyscpl;)