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mark7777
12-28-2007, 09:58 PM
talking about police costs again..
http://www.whec.com/article/stories/S297590.shtml?cat=566
Some interesting thoughts he has but I just see no way they can ever get a change by the mc legislature the towns w/:rolleyes:o police depts would have a fit.:rolleyes:
tactical208
12-29-2007, 12:14 PM
You gotta love Nesbitt, opens his mouth before he has actually taken a good hard look at this. I have a better way of saving money for the Town of Webster. Get rid of the aquatic center that the town pays $ 200,000 towards annually. Learn to stop wasting tax payers dollars on things we don't need and put that money back into the community.
ChrisF202
12-29-2007, 02:22 PM
Well does Webster use any of the specialized services provided by the Monroe County Sheriff's Dept. such as detectives, tactical teams, aviation support, etc? If so then they should pay just like everyone else.
Its similar to what we have down here with our "County Police HQ" tax which every community must pay ... even those that have their own police department. Its not fair but the county police department really controls everything involving law enforcement so basically even if town A has their own police department the county police will still weasel their way into things, for example they recently mandated that all felony criminal investigations must be conducted by the county police regardless if the individual town/village police department that covers where the crime occurred has their own detectives hence everyone must pay the county police HQ tax. Its all about the ego and arrogance of the SCPD PBA ... no deal is good enough for them.
Funny. I actually passed a deputy running radar while I was in Webster to pick up my car this morning.
The fact of the matter is that Webster DOES make use of MCSO's road patrol services. You may not a Sheriff's car inside the village of Webster very often, but they're in the Town of Webster all the time. The services that Nesbitt DOESN'T want the people of Webster to pay for will have next to NO impact on the individual resident's tax bill.
I can see it now. A Webster officer will be getting his arse handed to him at TC Hooligan's at Ridge and Five Mile Line. MCSO will have a car three miles down the road at FML and Atlantic, but the closest backup will be a NYSP car from 590 and Browncroft. Why? Because the residents of Webster don't utilize MCSO road patrol.
Or how about a MVAPI holding on North Ave at 104 with all the Webster cars tied up. It'll just have to hold because the residents of Webster don't use MCSO road patrol. Wait a minute though... they can't send a deputy as the primary unit, but MCSO will send ID and accident reconstruction.
How peeved to you think Webster residents would be if this happened?
Nesbitt needs to fine some help with his serious case of rectal-cranial inversion and realize that Webster is getting a bargain for $3.05 per $1000. for MCSO's services. Whether or not they CHOOSE to use them all is irrelevant.
tactical208
12-30-2007, 11:26 AM
Some of your observations are incorrect. Webster has their own technicians for accident reconstruction for one thing.
Secondly, MCSO doesn't run radar in Webster, but on the outskirts in Penfield which alot of people construe as Webster.
Yes , Webster does use the SWAT team, how often very , very, very rarely. Becaus ehtey haven't formed their own swat team or containment team.
If an officer was in danger te 911 center would put out an alert tone for "officer needs assistance". So again your stories are incorrect.
As far as Webster actually making useof the MCSO, it's the MCSO that has county wide jurisdiction and they can go into the town if they wish, but there are written standards between the MCSO and Town of Webster when they can cannot come into the town. The MCSO does not answer calls for service in the town, they don't take crime reports in town etc.
This is just another way for the town supervisor to stir the pot.
T208,
My comments were merely "worst-case" hypotheticals, and not observations. I know that it would never come down to those things.
The point is that Nesbitt needs to think about not just the tax rates in Webster, but what POTENTIAL implications there are to stirring this particular pot.
tactical208
12-30-2007, 06:59 PM
Nesbitt is an idiot, but on the other hand I don't believe that a town that has their own police agency should pay top dollar in taxes to have the sheriffs dept as well. If there was a way to take a percentage of services offered by MCSO and only pay for that percentage that would be great.
For example, Websters PD takes all reports like they do now and enforce the laws within it's jurisdiction. But, if they need the MCSO swat team then Webster should pay a for that. How often does Webster need the scuba squad, swat team, hostage negoiator etc. Not often, so they should not have to pay full price in their taxes for MCSO services.
Something can be done to appease both sides and the taxpayers at the same time. They just need to sit down at the table and talk it over. The only other choice is Metro policing, and no one is too hot on that idea.
AllGoNoShow
01-01-2008, 12:18 PM
Something can be done to appease both sides and the taxpayers at the same time. They just need to sit down at the table and talk it over. The only other choice is Metro policing, and no one is too hot on that idea.
It really would be pretty simply....have the residents within the towns/city with their own police services pay pro-rated amounts based on how often they use the Sheriff services in the given year. The MC Leg just instituted something similar for Monroe Community College in the last budget (towns have to pay the county based on how many individuals in that particular town attend the college).
But the fact that the towns with their own police services are represented overwhelmingly by Democrat legislators make any such negotiation by a Republican Leg and Executive very unlikely (considering their constituency would then have to pay more).
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