Fcip Usms

[HEMITRP]

This thread is for everyone in the FCIP process. I would like to keep a revolving list for everyone who is in the process. Once the January academy starts the people who are still waiting will want to link up. If you want to get this going either PM me or post your stuff. Let me know where you are appying to and the month of your last contact in the process. I realize that other sites have some of this info but I wont pay to post so I will do it through this site. Good luck to everyone in the process, I know that the worst part is the wait, but if you have the FIT completed and you passed I think you are going to have a great Christmas !!!!!!!!!

[JCincy]

FCIP S/Florida
passed interview, I recieved the follow up questionaire turned that in July and have heard nothing since.

[HEMITRP]

You should have been contacted for your BI by now. My stuff is done except the FIT, I got put on medical hold. That should be cleared up by the end of the month. Have you called HQ to check on your status?

[JCincy]

I contacted someone in HR a month ago and they said that they are still processing apps. Where did you Interview at? I have been on other forums and there are people in the same boat as me. Maybe I was not qualified enough.

[HEMITRP]

I interviewed out of DC. Just remember, no news is often good news !!! I dont know what the hold up is but they still have 2 academy's yet to fill so dont get discouraged.

[JCincy]

Good point, I just wasn't sure if they would let you know or not, if you were still in the process, I heard of some people getting rejection letters from the interview. keeping my fingers crossed.

[HEMITRP]

I would imagine that things will get fired up again around mid February as far as calls going out and final offers.

[WJD]

I filled out the DUSM in July. No news and cant even get ahold of anyone to change my address. Going through Arizona. My brother is in the same boat.
Thanks
Will

[rix031]

I filled out the DUSM in July. No news and cant even get ahold of anyone to change my address. Going through Arizona. My brother is in the same boat.
Thanks
Will

please clarify this statement. what do you mean by "filled out the dusm?"

[WJD]

The request for more background info. It was an email titled DUSM. I sent it back quickly

[WJD]

FYI I have posted this in other threads as well

Thank you for email. Your new address is updated.



Your record is still on file for future consideration. As long as you haven’t received a vote-out letter, you are still in the process. Please be advised we rank applicants based on their experience, interview score, writing sample and veteran’s preference. Applicants with higher score will be considered first to go to the training academy.



If you get selected to go to the training class, we will notify you in the mail for the next actions.



Thank you for your patience with our process.

[JCincy]

For all of you that are involved in the FCIP. just got an email requesting my transcripts to determine grade. So just to let you know that we are still being considered and not to lose hope if you have not been contacted in a while.

J

[USMCDM]

Have you received a conditional job offer? That is strange they asked for transcripts. I was reading your old post and you said you never received anything after the questions in July. I was just curious if you had your medical, fit, and background done. I am finished with the process and am waiting on a class. Thanks.

[JCincy]

USMCDM,

This is the first thing that I have heard, I was suprised also, not sure what it means, but I am just glad that I have heard something. No BI or FIT yet. ?????

J

[WJD]

Have you received a conditional job offer? That is strange they asked for transcripts. I was reading your old post and you said you never received anything after the questions in July. I was just curious if you had your medical, fit, and background done. I am finished with the process and am waiting on a class. Thanks.

How did the process go for you?

[USMCDM]

How did the process go for you?

Completed online questions then received a conditional job offer about a month later. Then completed my medical and met with a background investigator. Took drug test and completed the FIT test. I am now done with everything and just waiting for a class. I am FCIP....started the process the same time everyone else did.

[WJD]

thanks for the info and good luck at the academy.

[drepol]

For all of you that are involved in the FCIP. just got an email requesting my transcripts to determine grade. So just to let you know that we are still being considered and not to lose hope if you have not been contacted in a while.

J
What office are you applying out of?

[JCincy]

No C.O. so I am not sure what the deal is, any insight would help, I applied out of S/FL

[WJD]

What did you mean by C.O.? thanks

[JCincy]

Conditional Offer

[WJD]

There is some really good info at 911 jobs forums but for some reason I cant post. :(

[USMCDM]

No C.O. so I am not sure what the deal is, any insight would help, I applied out of S/FL

I would ask them why you haven't received a conditional offer yet. No one I know of were asked for their college transcripts for FCIP. Is your degree your only qualifying experience? Maybe that is why they need them..not really sure though.

[WJD]

You guys think that applying with other agencies will help? Someone told me that they track your applications to other agencies. Just a thought. Im taking the Border patrol exam tomorrow.

[JCincy]

I dont know about tracking, but Im in the hiring process with CBPO and USSS, The Marshals is my dream job but I dont want to put all my eggs in one basket and wait for a year.

[Terp22]

Waiting here aswell.

[Love_Ulcer]

You guys think that applying with other agencies will help? Someone told me that they track your applications to other agencies. Just a thought. Im taking the Border patrol exam tomorrow.

I know it is impossibly difficult, but at this point all you can do is wait. Applying to other agencies won't really affect anything. If you apply to Border Patrol, you'll probably get hired before USMS! At least you'll start your Fed LE clock. Unless you already have done the FIT test, chances are we won't be seeing academy until next FY.

Live your life. Seriously. Otherwise, prepare for insanity.:D

[JohnBoston]

Fyi I'm pretty sure the 911jobforum requires a subscription fee to post... ridiculous if you ask me.

[Brightshape]

For all of you that are involved in the FCIP. just got an email requesting my transcripts to determine grade. So just to let you know that we are still being considered and not to lose hope if you have not been contacted in a while.

J


Same here, applying out of S/FL.

[JCincy]

Same here, applying out of S/FL.

Did you get an Email also? Have you heard anything about people aready being selected from S/FL FCIP?
Thanks,

J

[HEMITRP]

This is just me thinking out loud and throwing some facts in with it. The last group that started in January had the holidays to deal with as far as time tables. I think that HQ gave them a little more notice than the April group will get because of all the holidays and they had alot of off time as a result. I think, and again this is an opinion, that things will get moving in March for the April group. I know several people that are FCIP that have done their FIT and are waiting. I think a couple more FCIP people will be contacted to complete their FIT because they are being considered for April due to Vets pref. or they are filling gaps for the April class. This class will more than likely have alot of co-ops like the last one. If you already have your FIT done and you are FCIP, it stands to reason you will get an offer for April. If you have not gotten a CO then it stands to reason you are a long way out from a final offer seeing as how long it takes to get those things done. I know how hard it is to have so many unanswered questions, but patience is the key at this point. Good luck to everyone.

[USMCDM]

There will be a small amount of co-ops in this next class. There is also a big group of people waiting from FCIP for the next class.

[Brightshape]

Did you get an Email also? Have you heard anything about people aready being selected from S/FL FCIP?
Thanks,

J

Yes J, I also received the e-mail. As far as hearing/reading if anyone has been selected from S/FL, I don't know. I haven't followed the thread on 911JF's since the online questionnaire I received in July. I'd have to read up over there to find out.

My educated guess for me and you is; we should expect to receive a CO of employment soon. There's no other reason to determine our grade, but for that.

[JCincy]

Yes J, I also received the e-mail. As far as hearing/reading if anyone has been selected from S/FL, I don't know. I haven't followed the thread on 911JF's since the online questionnaire I received in July. I'd have to read up over there to find out.

My educated guess for me and you is; we should expect to receive a CO of employment soon. There's no other reason to determine our grade, but for that.

Lets hope so, I heard that they may be going by district, So maybe it is our turn. I have looked on 911JF's and there hasn't been much said in a while. I will keep you updated if I hear anything.

J

[Brightshape]

[QUOTE=I will keep you updated if I hear anything.

J[/QUOTE]

I'll do the same.

[rix031]

Yes J, I also received the e-mail. As far as hearing/reading if anyone has been selected from S/FL, I don't know. I haven't followed the thread on 911JF's since the online questionnaire I received in July. I'd have to read up over there to find out.

My educated guess for me and you is; we should expect to receive a CO of employment soon. There's no other reason to determine our grade, but for that.

nobody from s/fl has been notified about the april class. at this point, there are approximately 11 people fcip guys that are finished with the process and waiting for the call. i just heard from a source that has not yet been wrong, that miami may not send anyone to the april class either.

also, its awfully weird that no one from the october or january classes have posted any info in any forums!

[HEMITRP]

I have 2 friends in the January class and it is safe to say they wont be posting anything on the internet anytime soon. It is in their best interest to focus on the task at hand and leave these boards to those of us waiting. Its not that anyone has forgotten about us, but they just dont want to get themselves in a bind.

[SSG_MP]

When you say "big group" for FCIP, around how many people are we talking. I am guessing there was around 300 applicants for the last shining star test last year.

[ryh03001]

You mentioned you took the shining star test last year. I thought there hasn't been any marshal testing since 2006. Just curious and can you even apply to the mashals now? and what is all of you guys background as im wondering if just my BA will be enough to get a look from these guys. thanks

[USMS08610083]

There hasn't been a public test since 2001. The Shining Star applicants were eligible for the test because they were in the military when the test was given. I can tell you there were far more then 300 Shining Star applicants that tested a year or so ago.

[Brightshape]

rix031, thanks for passing that info along.

[JCincy]

I'm just glad to know that we are still being considered, even if we don't make the April class.

[WJD]

Looks like the border patrol for me. I guess that would be a good preparation for the academy. I scored very well, 90 so it shouldn't take too long. They wont cancel my application if I take another job right?

[SSG_MP]

Yeah, Military people took a test in 07....I dont know how many exactly...I didnt think it was more than 300. I took it in NY, and there were about 50 people...it was only given in 9 cities.

[Love_Ulcer]

Wow..wasn't even aware there was a test in 2007!! I thought us 2006ers were the last group.

I can't even imagine how those 2001 test takers who are still in the process are going through...:(

[rix031]

I have 2 friends in the January class and it is safe to say they wont be posting anything on the internet anytime soon. It is in their best interest to focus on the task at hand and leave these boards to those of us waiting. Its not that anyone has forgotten about us, but they just dont want to get themselves in a bind.

i dont buy it. im more than sure they have time to get on a computer. when i went to fletc, i was going 6 days a week too and had plenty of time to send an email. also, i find it difficult to believe no one from the october class has not found time to write either. i have a feeling that they have been ordered not to post on the forums until they graduate.

i could be wrong, but i do think there is something more to it than not having time.

[drepol]

nevermind, disregard

[manstown]

No one has been ordered. It's not anything new that we know a lot of people watch these sites. Bottom line, that's more than likely why you don't see any of us on here. That and the fact that we are busy with the classes and work afterwards. HEMI is right on. CITP is a little different from CBP training.

[Love_Ulcer]

I'm starting to see some familiar names from the FAMS thread. Exodus?:D

[manstown]

I'm starting to see some familiar names from the FAMS thread. Exodus?:D

I had no real problems with the FAMS. I just always respected USMS. Knew that I would enjoy a career with them, and look forward to it. Got to go to many decent places with the FAMS.

[HEMITRP]

Has anyone been contacted for a FIT test since the last group in December?

[USMCDM]

No. They are good for 6 months.

[WJD]

is there anything to this rumor about having to re apply in late 2008 or 2009? FCIP that is.

[Terp22]

Manstown are you currently down at FLETC for USMS? I think I interviewed with you in DC last March.


Anybody on here know any DUSMs out of DC Super Court?

[SHSURobert]

WJD,

Well, we're supposed to die on the list after 18 months, although no one really knows when that clock started ticking. Therefore, if we don't get a call by the end of Summer, it probably ain't happenin'.

[rix031]

for those waiting for the call for april, the calls may be coming soon. a source of mine said they (hq) is going to begin working on april's class tomorrow. this is kind of ambiguous because i dont know if that means the calls will begin tomorrow, or they are going to start figuring out who is going to the class. either way, its a little activity to pump up the blood a bit.

[rakhard]

Hi I am new to this forum but have been looking into the USMS ever since I knew I would be ETSing out of the Army. My question is, are you required to take a lie detector test during the hiring process? I am a veteran with two combat tours, have been cleared for a Secret security clearance through the DOD, have over 4 years of managerial experience as a Non commissioned officer, and have several small arms qualifications-foreign and domestic. Will that be enough to get me the Nod, and where on the list might I be? Thanks everyone for your patience.

[rix031]

Hi I am new to this forum but have been looking into the USMS ever since I knew I would be ETSing out of the Army. My question is, are you required to take a lie detector test during the hiring process? I am a veteran with two combat tours, have been cleared for a Secret security clearance through the DOD, have over 4 years of managerial experience as a Non commissioned officer, and have several small arms qualifications-foreign and domestic. Will that be enough to get me the Nod, and where on the list might I be? Thanks everyone for your patience.

this is considered a "crystal ball" question. no one knows how competitive you are in any hiring process. if you meet the minimum qualifications, then you should apply. in every process, there has been examples of people that seemed "over-qualified" not get a job and others the vice-versa. as far as the marshals are concerned, keep in mind that they are very small compared to other agencies and ALOT of people apply when they have openings, so its very competitive. historically, they are kind to ex-military and experience law enforcement officers. throw in a degree with military and l/e experience and that is probably the ideal candidate. however, like i said, if you meet the minimum qualifications, apply! you never know. by the way, the marshals are not open for applications at this moment. read the forums for more information. good luck!

[rix031]

Hi I am new to this forum but have been looking into the USMS ever since I knew I would be ETSing out of the Army. My question is, are you required to take a lie detector test during the hiring process? I am a veteran with two combat tours, have been cleared for a Secret security clearance through the DOD, have over 4 years of managerial experience as a Non commissioned officer, and have several small arms qualifications-foreign and domestic. Will that be enough to get me the Nod, and where on the list might I be? Thanks everyone for your patience.

and.....no, there isnt a polygraph.

[Love_Ulcer]

Rakhard, your DoD clearance will not be transferrable as well. I already have two and I will need to start another one for USMS. Very redundant but necessary.:(

[rakhard]

On a side note, did anyone have to attend a seminar to start the hiring process?

Thanks for all the information, this is a great thread.

[Love_Ulcer]

On a side note, did anyone have to attend a seminar to start the hiring process?

Thanks for all the information, this is a great thread.

I believe the FCIP folks did. Rest of us Shining Star guys or gals took an exam. I dunno how it goes for the Co-op folks.

[Brightshape]

I believe the FCIP folks did.

That is correct. Us FCIPer's had to attend an orientation session before we could apply under FCIP.

[JCincy]

Just saw on another forum that people were recieving emails from HR asking if they were still interested in the position and submit some further information. I think some people will be getting some CO's very soon!

[Brightshape]

Just saw on another forum that people were recieving emails from HR asking if they were still interested in the position and submit some further information. I think some people will be getting some CO's very soon!

Your optimism is enviable.;)

[JCincy]

Hope is all I have left! LOL

[rakhard]

JCincy, if you dont mind me asking how long have you been in the hiring process?

[JCincy]

I have been in the process since July.

[rakhard]

And you have everything ready just waiting on a class date?

[JCincy]

No. I have not had the FIT yet. But I recently received an email asking me for my transcripts to determine my grade level and that renewed my hope.

[rakhard]

What was the rest of the process like the interview, etc?

[HEMITRP]

I dont know about anyone elses but they told me not to discuss the interview questions. After the interview there was a writing test that was interesting. I dont remember how long, maybe a month or 2 after the interview came the conditional offer. Shortly after that an appointment was made for the medical exam and it was very in depth. Hearing,vision, prostate etc. Probably the most in depth physical I have had since the military or joining the SHP. About 2 months after the physical the guy doing the background called and we met for an hour or so. He finished my BI in about 2 weeks. Word to the wise, give the investigator every possible phone number he may need, it will help him get done sooner. I got put on medical hold in October so I missed the FIT exams, but they were done in mid to late November and final offers were made in mid December for the class that started in late January. Hope that helps.

[rakhard]

Thank you that was great information, do you think that time span is about normal? Appreciate all the info

[Terp22]

For the FCIP hiring process it is. However Hemitrp, me and other guys were in the first round of the Conditional offers, medicals, and backgrounds with the time frame he listed. There are still guys as mentioned above getting conditional offers from from the same process now to fill later class dates. FCIP is FAST as far as hiring is concerned with USMS or compared to other feds agencies in general.

[rakhard]

That is the first time I have heard the word fast, but that gives me some good hope. Is there a trend when they usually have the class dates each year?

[USMS08610083]

FCIP is a new hiring initiative. Will it continue to be used in the future? I don't think anyone can answer that. There is talk of another public test but no one knows for sure. I can tell you that I have heard stories of those it took between 1 and 6 years to get on from the day they tested. So I think the word "fast" is a matter of opinion.

[Terp22]

FCIP is a new hiring initiative. Will it continue to be used in the future? I don't think anyone can answer that. There is talk of another public test but no one knows for sure. I can tell you that I have heard stories of those it took between 1 and 6 years to get on from the day they tested. So I think the word "fast" is a matter of opinion.

I think FCIP is fast compared to other ways USMS has hired in the past, it is also fast compared to the process for some or most other fed agencies aswell. 10 months from start to being in a class is not that long for the first guys that went to the Jan class.

Sent PM btw.

[HEMITRP]

I dont know that the word "fast" is applicable, maybe "efficient" would be better. I think they managed to spend less money and get more qualified people using FCIP. I have a friend who tested in 2001 and was moving along pretty quick. Then nothing for 3 years and then one day the phone rang and they said go take your FIT, a week later they called and offer him a job. This way they get people in by internal referal. My current agency did the same thing, came in and said "hey, if you know someone who would be a good applicant with no past and that wants on, tell them to come on". We got great hires, didnt waste money processing the idiots that came through the door and everyone won. I dont know why some people are farther ahead than others except maybe work experience. This is a casual observation and I may be way off, but initially the people that were going quick had military and LEO experience. I dont think it has anything to do with the other, but half the class down there now are coops and the other half are older experienced people. I guess one can help the other. I think the process has moved very efficiently for me. I never had a long period of time where I didnt here anything. I have been able to get someone on the phone when I called to HQ and they have been very receptive and willing to take time to field my questions. I realize that is a stark opposite from some peoples experience, but I dont have any gripes. My own impatience is no one elses fault but my own.

[rix031]

i agree with hemitrp as far as fast/efficient up to november and then after that, well, it has been like the other agencies, "dont call us, we will call you!" i received 2 phone calls from my background investigator stating she had to compete my background immediately and then another one by a dusm from the local office telling me to complete the fit test asap so i can be ready for the jan class. needless to say, im still not a fletc! normally, i wouldnt be frustrated, but considering how everything was rushed up to november, i started getting excited about heading to fletc in january! but like hemitrp also stated, "my impatience is no one else's fault......"

[Terp22]

i agree with hemitrp as far as fast/efficient up to november and then after that, well, it has been like the other agencies, "dont call us, we will call you!" i received 2 phone calls from my background investigator stating she had to compete my background immediately and then another one by a dusm from the local office telling me to complete the fit test asap so i can be ready for the jan class. needless to say, im still not a fletc! normally, i wouldnt be frustrated, but considering how everything was rushed up to november, i started getting excited about heading to fletc in january! but like hemitrp also stated, "my impatience is no one else's fault......"

You are right about the intense rush during the fall. The spring/summer went by slowly and as soon as Sept/Oct hit they were on a mad dash to complete everything.

[USMS08610083]

I think the FCIP did get some really qualified people and did do some weeding out. But I guarantee there will be those that have a "hook" who get bumped on the list they may not have otherwise. Also, it was mostly word of mouth, which has its pros and cons. I think you are right in stating that it is more experienced people on the qualified list but districts have some discretion. As far as your experience with HR being productive, I am glad it has been smooth without getting into any more detail then that. In addition, Co-Op's have to be there because they have a time constraint when they are done their hours. That program is another subject we won't delve into any further either.

[USMCDM]

Any idea on what districts might be hiring for the next class? I think DC has seats in every class but, I was wondering what other districts need people really bad.

[Love_Ulcer]

FCIP was designed for locality purposes. Areas with high-cost of living are usually the target areas (except for SF bay area for some reason) for hire. FCIP was also the pilot program for future hiring purposes. No longer are the days of Shining Star.

So to answer your question, probable suspects are DC, NYC, LA, and maybe the southwest area.

Apparently this locality-hire style didn't bode well for ICE, so we'll see what happens.

Also asking about the average hiring time is like asking "what is the meaning of life?" Many factors come into play and variables are too great. Your initial process could literally take only a month and your background could take up to three years because of your investigator's heavy caseload, or that contractor's caseload. This could also be vice versa. Your medical examiner (US Healthworks comes to mind) company's government contract could expire and your medical works may fall into HR black hole, only to be never seen again, while your background investigation is already done and ready to go.

[USMS08610083]

Yes, you are right the FCIP is being conducted in the high cost of living areas but that is not the only reason. There is a hope that retention will be better because a majority of the people applying will be from that given area. Also, the 2001 public test supposedly cost millions to proctor, grade, etc. So this program is obviously cheaper.

[HEMITRP]

My .02

I feel very lucky to get this far this fast. Although I am in limbo with a medical issue, I have come very far very fast all things considered. I am very hopeful that I will be allowed to take my FIT and move into an academy class soon. If not, its not because I didnt give it 100%. As for coops, hey I dont hate the game or the player. I spent 4 years in the military and 8 as a trooper. My experience will be very different than a 22 year old college kid but if you are in the academy together, guess what? You have the same title. I dont care about what background you come from or how you get hired, I just want to work. Good luck to you all, and if you get hired, dont ever feel sorry for yourself if the OC burns or the instructor is in your face yelling, because there are alot of people that would give anything just to have the oppertunity you have.

[USMCDM]

So to answer your question, probable suspects are DC, NYC, LA, and maybe the southwest area.


That is what I was wondering. I have completed everything and am just awaiting a class date. I thought NYC and LA would have been represented in the January class. Hopefully they will in April.

[Love_Ulcer]

That is what I was wondering. I have completed everything and am just awaiting a class date. I thought NYC and LA would have been represented in the January class. Hopefully they will in April.

Here's to hoping!:D I'll see you guys at FY09.

[SSG_MP]

Because the FCIP was for locality reasons, does that mean the shining star applicants and CO-OP will be used to fill for the non-FCIP districts?

[USMS08610083]

HEMITRP-

I don't think I said anything deragatory about CO-OPS. There are outstanding people on the job from the program and then there are others. I know from experience what I have seen and not seen. That's all I really have to say about that.

SSG MP-

The idea is the FCIP will fill the areas that they processed in. There may be additional bodies sent to those districts from the Co-ops, Shining Star, or any 2001 testers still out there based on need. But I have heard of Co-ops from the FCIP offices going other places.

Unfortunately, the USMS is like most federal agencies or the military with the hurry up and wait practice. Just be patient and your day will come.

[rix031]

lets not forget miami! the miami office itself is more than 12 people in the hole and that doesnt include the whole district! if hq wasnt interested in filling miami sometime soon, they wouldnt have processed us as quickly as everyone else in the fcip process. keep in mind, there are 144 slots remaining for this fy. AND, unless i am mistaken, anyone that has moved through the entire process, HAS eventually been hired. they may still be waiting, i.e. the shining star recruits, but historically people do not receive rejection letters after passing everything. please correct me if im wrong, but after reading numerous threads dating back to early 2001, i have seen anyone NOT get offered the job.

[USMCDM]

keep in mind, there are 144 slots remaining for this fy.

This makes me feel a little better.........so 3 more classes............now if we could just find out what districts will be in the next class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SSG_MP]

Any (recent) shining star applicants that interviewed this past January here any feed back yet, like pass/fail, next step, etc?

[Love_Ulcer]

Any (recent) shining star applicants that interviewed this past January here any feed back yet, like pass/fail, next step, etc?

El zilcho. :(

[USMCDM]

Anyone have any new rumors? Figure it was a new week and maybe someone has heard something about the April class and what districts are going?

[rix031]

Anyone have any new rumors? Figure it was a new week and maybe someone has heard something about the April class and what districts are going?

AZ,TX & DC only for april.

[Quick2352]

I'm just getting here. Does anyone know when the FCIP will open to the public?

[rix031]

I'm just getting here. Does anyone know when the FCIP will open to the public?

with so many people in the ss/co-ops & fcip processes currently, i doubt they will have another opening for a long time. matter of fact, they just started interviewing people from last years test. they also have begun issuing conditional offers to a 2nd wave of fcip guys from last year.

[HEMITRP]

rix031

Did they mention how many to each district or how many from each pool ie. FCIP/SS/CO-OP ?

[rix031]

rix031

Did they mention how many to each district or how many from each pool ie. FCIP/SS/CO-OP ?

unfortunately, not.