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x0xStrickenx0x
09-02-2007, 07:00 AM
Well, this pertains to not only South Australia, but possibly to all Australian PD's. Anyone know why they tend to still use revolvers? I heard they use .357 caliber revolvers, but a site said they carry .38 Specials. I can find more bad reasons than good ones about using revolvers, since I have shot my moms .38 Special when she worked armed security, and her 9mm Helwan.
Revolvers (The bad things):
1. Too much recoil.
2. Muzzle Flash is about as bright as a space shuttle launch.
3. You can hear it being fired like 2 miles away. (Ok, not quite 2 miles away, but you get the point)
4. You can't do quick shots with it like you can with a semi-auto.
5. Most only have 6 rounds.
Revolvers (Good things)
1. .38 Special and .357 Caliber usually have more stopping power than a lot of semi-automatics.
That's the only good thing I can think of about revolvers.
The Australian Police Departments should not force anyone to have to stick with a revolver, and let those who want to use their own gun (of course, as long as it's within the limits of a duty weapon, not like a .45 Desert Eagle or the like) that they should be allowed.
ron9572
09-04-2007, 11:12 PM
As far as I know, no Australian Police forces use revolvers, most seem to have gone over to Glocks.
John from Maryland
09-05-2007, 12:43 AM
Most Australian police forces have transitioned to pistols. If I'm not mistaken, most have opted for the Glock 22 or 17. I believe Australian Protective Service uses the Sigma.
South Australia Police still issues revolvers, but are field testing semiautomatic pistols. I believe there may be one or two other Australian forces still using the revolver (Victoria?).
Any Australian police who know better, feel free to correct me.
tristate
09-05-2007, 11:20 PM
Most department are using autos now but Victoria is still one of the ones holding out, I think the Northern Terrority Police is the other
Main reason MONEY. It would cost a hell of a lot to outfit the Victorian police with new glocks or other weapon of choice, plus the re-training that would go with it. That would amount to a lot of overtime dollars just in the training alone.
co911
09-08-2007, 07:28 AM
SA and Victorian Police carry revolvers.
ron9572
09-08-2007, 09:24 AM
W.A carry Glock 22's and 23's, havent carried revolvers for at least 5 years now.
Adelaide_Cop
09-19-2007, 09:55 PM
SA and Victorian Police carry revolvers.
Here is SA our STAR Group (TRG) are currently trialing glocks and the department will review the trial after 12 mths.
Looking forward to having a lighter firearm and ease the strain on the hips and lower back.
The PASA (Police Assoc. of SA) are trying very hard to bring in the tazer to general patrols also...currently only held by STAR Group.
Keep up the good work folks...
Sleuth
09-24-2007, 03:26 PM
I have carried both revolvers and semi-autos on the job (I started way back when!) I never felt undergunned.
The downsides to revolvers are the limited ammo supply and slow reloads. But with most police shootings in the U.S. requiring less than 6 rounds fired by all parties, that is not important.
The biggest difference is that when a revolver malfunctions, it usually requires an armorer to get it working. Even the worst malfunctions with a semi-auto can be cleared by the officer in seconds (which can be a lifetime in a gunfight).
It's the shooter, more than the firearm, that determines the winner on the street.
Modzilla
09-26-2007, 06:00 PM
Well, this pertains to not only South Australia, but possibly to all Australian PD's. Anyone know why they tend to still use revolvers? I heard they use .357 caliber revolvers, but a site said they carry .38 Specials. I can find more bad reasons than good ones about using revolvers, since I have shot my moms .38 Special when she worked armed security, and her 9mm Helwan.
Revolvers (The bad things):
1. Too much recoil.
2. Muzzle Flash is about as bright as a space shuttle launch.
3. You can hear it being fired like 2 miles away. (Ok, not quite 2 miles away, but you get the point)
4. You can't do quick shots with it like you can with a semi-auto.
5. Most only have 6 rounds.
Revolvers (Good things)
1. .38 Special and .357 Caliber usually have more stopping power than a lot of semi-automatics.
That's the only good thing I can think of about revolvers.
The Australian Police Departments should not force anyone to have to stick with a revolver, and let those who want to use their own gun (of course, as long as it's within the limits of a duty weapon, not like a .45 Desert Eagle or the like) that they should be allowed.
1. Wrong, recoils can be controlled.
2. Muzzle flash is fine.
3.They're not as loud as most SLPs.
4. You're very wrong about that, here's a vid for your info.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5WJUD-7FFc
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