View Full Version : What the hell!?
Stewie
07-17-2007, 07:26 PM
So an inmate assaulted me and 2 other Staff members and received 30 days of room time. I went into work today to find out the inmate is no longer in our jail, his caseworker had him moved out!!
Talk about being undermined!! :mad:
Mr. CO
07-17-2007, 07:44 PM
They moved him away cause they knew you would come in and be ****ed off. So they moved him into protective custody.
Bowles
07-17-2007, 08:42 PM
Yep, standard procedure at my facility as well. A inmate who assaults staff will be moved to another facility asap to complete his segregation time there. In all likelihood he will be placed under central monitoring and the C/O and inmate will never meet under a DOC roof again.
At least they stick up for you. Awhile back an Inmate attacked my supervisor and I took the punk down hard. We wrote him a DR for assault on a CO and he also picked up street charges for assault on a CO. So far the DR was reduced to assault on an Inmate and he was give 15 days with time served in the hole.
SlowDownThere
07-17-2007, 09:35 PM
I don't know how you CO's do it, really. You have a very hard job, one I wouldn't want and couldn't do. You have more patience and composure than I have.
Stewie
07-18-2007, 12:04 AM
Ah didn't know that, I hope he still has to serve his time in the hole at the new facility. Stupid bastard nailed me with a wooden broom stick, and then when I took him down to the pavement he bit me. :mad:
If that happened at my facility they would put the guy in SHU. and push a packet thru to get him moved. The I/M would go straight to OSP and a welcoming commitee would be waiting.
TexasAggieOfc
07-18-2007, 12:19 PM
Stewie, I don't know where in Neb. you are, but I know when I was at NSP and DEC, the Lancaster Co D.A. would not prosecute Inmate on Staff assault. He said it was 'part of our job' and we 'knew what we were getting into when we signed on'
Stewie
07-18-2007, 02:29 PM
Stewie, I don't know where in Neb. you are, but I know when I was at NSP and DEC, the Lancaster Co D.A. would not prosecute Inmate on Staff assault. He said it was 'part of our job' and we 'knew what we were getting into when we signed on'
Oh that's retarded, if it's expected to happen then why do I not have any tools to defend myself with? They send me in with my mouth, fist, and a radio but this is what irks me.
JSD73
07-18-2007, 04:36 PM
Yeah I love that....I don't recall signing a paper that said an inmate had the RIGHT to punch kick or bite me. I know we are aware of what can happen but that doesn't mean they have the right to hurt a staff member. I hated my jail......glad I'm out and I salute all of you who stay inside those walls
TexasAggieOfc
07-18-2007, 06:11 PM
There is no place like Nebraska
Mr. CO
07-18-2007, 06:55 PM
Stewie, I don't know where in Neb. you are, but I know when I was at NSP and DEC, the Lancaster Co D.A. would not prosecute Inmate on Staff assault. He said it was 'part of our job' and we 'knew what we were getting into when we signed on'
That is the stupids things every. Does that mean if a LEO gets shot on duty, the suspect doesn't get charged because that is part of the job?
TexasAggieOfc
07-18-2007, 07:10 PM
That is the stupids things every. Does that mean if a LEO gets shot on duty, the suspect doesn't get charged because that is part of the job?
More than likely... like I said before There is no place like Nebraska :D
That is the reality we work in or so this jagoff DA might say," a part of our job". Someone needs to inform that loser that," a part of his job is to prosecute the POS for doing it". If the prosecutor is an elected official, make sure next election you let yourself be heard!!!!!!!!!! If you can't do it out in the open do it on the sly. Write lots of anonymous letters to talk radio show hosts and the newspapers and let you voice be heard.
Bowles
07-19-2007, 12:32 PM
Stewie, I don't know where in Neb. you are, but I know when I was at NSP and DEC, the Lancaster Co D.A. would not prosecute Inmate on Staff assault. He said it was 'part of our job' and we 'knew what we were getting into when we signed on'
The Dept. may establish prison policy, but they do not establish the law. If you were assaulted, a crime has occurred. You have the right to seek prosecution for that crime, the Dept. be damned.
While you may step on a few toes, only a fool would attempt any official action against an officer for prosecuting an inmate for staff assault. I'm sure they'd love to see that story on the local news.
Were it me, and the Dept. refused to prosecute I'd do it myself and dare anyone to attempt to prevent me or discipline me for doing so.
The law is on your side 100% in this matter, use it.
Edit: Sorry didn't realize you were refering to the DA in your post. Still a complaint to the State Board would handle the DA's office.
TexasAggieOfc
07-20-2007, 09:46 AM
Just don't complain if the inmate was African American... I'd hate for Uncle Ernie to take your job
PRIME EVIL
07-20-2007, 11:25 AM
First of all, if the inmate bit me, he would end up at the dentist 'cause I would have knocked all of his teeth out. Second, when an inmate served his punishment at our county, he stays there. Lately our county has been prosecuting the AH's who assault staff. If you want to press charges, alls you have to to is say so. No-one can convince or talk you out of it. Best part about it is you won't have to write the report =)
spiff2022
07-21-2007, 07:04 PM
well if he wasnt prosicuted for assulting you, i hope he atleas caught a few elbows. you co's shure do have a tuff job, i shure wouldnt wanna do it.
TX_CO
07-21-2007, 08:04 PM
Assault on an Officer here is a felony, punishable with up to 99 more years on top of current sentence.
I have been in a couple of incidents where there were "free world" charges applied to the case in addition to solitary confinement and loss of privileges and good time and a reversal of a parole board decision.
robeans
07-21-2007, 09:28 PM
We had an officer at our prison who got in a fight while on our big yard, the inmate got him down and ended up shattering his ankle. The inmate caught a case and ended up with 24 months for it. Courts want people off of the street, I guess it's easier for them to prosecute or something.
The only upside is here, when an inmate assaults staff, they usually get two years programing in our Intensive Management Unit. After two years of that they are fried for life.
Stewie
07-22-2007, 12:56 AM
I pressed charges on the I/M, so he won't be getting off easy. (I hope!) After the last 2 weeks of Hell, I decided to get the heavy bag back out for practice. I don't know if it was National Assault a Staff Member Month or what but we were swimming in major write ups. :mad:
onceamarine
07-25-2007, 07:54 AM
We do what we do as CO's and you do what you do as a trouper. And stop giving out so many traffic tickets to CO's.
I don't know how you CO's do it, really. You have a very hard job, one I wouldn't want and couldn't do. You have more patience and composure than I have.
onceamarine
07-25-2007, 07:59 AM
Paper work, Paper Work and more Paper Work..........They will get off easy!
I pressed charges on the I/M, so he won't be getting off easy. (I hope!) After the last 2 weeks of Hell, I decided to get the heavy bag back out for practice. I don't know if it was National Assault a Staff Member Month or what but we were swimming in major write ups. :mad:
Von Nanega
07-25-2007, 10:34 AM
I once had a captian who said it was part of or job to have bodily waste thrown on us. He told us to stop crying about it!
Stewie
07-25-2007, 01:19 PM
I once had a captian who said it was part of or job to have bodily waste thrown on us. He told us to stop crying about it!
Then we should make alot more than we do! :eek: :p
Arkimedes
07-25-2007, 03:12 PM
Then we should make alot more than we do! :eek: :p
A-freaken-men to that Stewie
Mr. CO
07-25-2007, 03:19 PM
I once had a captian who said it was part of or job to have bodily waste thrown on us. He told us to stop crying about it!
Von Nanega, are you a brass huger. If you aren't, now is the time to be. When you are freshly slimmed, go and give him a big hug. That well cure that problem right away.
TexasAggieOfc
07-25-2007, 04:50 PM
You should have crapped in your hand and thrown it on the Capt and say "Part of the job, stop your bitchin'"
Stewie
07-25-2007, 04:57 PM
You should have crapped in your hand and thrown it on the Capt and say "Part of the job, stop your bitchin'"
lol brilliant idea! :D
TexasAggieOfc
07-25-2007, 05:15 PM
Disclaimer for my own personal protection: I am not suggesting, nor do I condone that any member of my current department commit the action I have suggested towards any member of our administration...
But it would be freaking hiliarious
LEO_brat
07-30-2007, 03:34 PM
I'm not surprised there more from my state haven't commented (being the softer gentler dept that it is)
I got assaulted... the I/M is still at the facility awaiting CM eval. meanwhile, I was placed on alternate duty sitting in a 10x6 room, freezin my A** off for 8hr every day. Atleast he had running water and a pot to pee in..... :mad:
SlowDownThere
07-31-2007, 05:28 AM
We do what we do as CO's and you do what you do as a trouper. And stop giving out so many traffic tickets to CO's.:rolleyes:
Complimenting someone is passing judgement?
Speaking of passing judgement, just how many tickets have I given CO's?
BillP
07-31-2007, 06:00 AM
The Dept. may establish prison policy, but they do not establish the law. If you were assaulted, a crime has occurred. You have the right to seek prosecution for that crime, the Dept. be damned.
While you may step on a few toes, only a fool would attempt any official action against an officer for prosecuting an inmate for staff assault. I'm sure they'd love to see that story on the local news.
Were it me, and the Dept. refused to prosecute I'd do it myself and dare anyone to attempt to prevent me or discipline me for doing so.
The law is on your side 100% in this matter, use it.
Edit: Sorry didn't realize you were refering to the DA in your post. Still a complaint to the State Board would handle the DA's office.
Problem with not prosecuting is pretty simple. Money. Costs money to do so, and the overriding opinion is that they are already doing time, so why waste funds on them when that money can be used to prosecute other cases.
This was an issue here in PA until last year when legislation was passed that took the cost of trials for assaults inside facilities away from the local counties and placed it on the Department. Now DA's are pretty willing to charge them up, and add time to their visits.
It is, like anything else with the government, ultimately about money.
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