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cabo0351
07-02-2007, 11:12 AM
USAJobs posted the SA announcement today for those interested:


Department: Department Of Justice
Agency: Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Sub Agency: Special Agent
Job Announcement Number:
SA-FO-2007-0004

Special Agent

Salary Range: 49,347.00 - 67,220.00 USD per year Open Period: Sunday, July 01, 2007
to Monday, December 31, 2007
Series & Grade: GS-1811-10/10 Position Information: Permanent Full-Time
Promotion Potential: 10 Duty Locations: many vacancies - Throughout the Nation, US
Who May Be Considered:
IF YOU APPLIED TO THE SPECIAL AGENT POSITION IN THE PAST YEAR YOU DO
NOT NEED TO REAPPLY UNLESS YOUR EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE HAS
CHANGED.

You must be a U.S. citizen or a citizen of the Northern Mariana
Islands. Please read the entire vacancy announcement carefully for
detailed information on qualifications and application procedures.

Please note that the beginning salary listed above applies to
Academy Training. Upon graduation, locality and availability pay
will also be added.

Duty locations will be throughout FBI jurisdictions.

Job Summary:
When you join the FBI, you join a united effort against crime. It's
a rewarding career for anyone who has the ability and desire to
contribute to the proud history and bright future of today's FBI.

As the primary investigative arm of the federal government, the FBI is responsible for protecting the United States by preventing future terrorist attacks, conducting sensitive national security investigations, and enforcing over 260 federal statutes. The FBI's ten top investigative priorities are:
Protect the United States from terrorist attack.
Protect the United States against foreign intelligence operations and espionage.
Protect the United States against cyber-based attacks and high- technology crimes.
Combat public corruption at all levels.
Protect civil rights.
Combat transnational and national criminal organizations and enterprises.
Combat major white-collar crime.
Combat significant violent crime.
Support federal, state, county, municipal, and international partners.
Upgrade technology to successfully perform the FBI's mission.
While the FBI remains committed to other important national security and law enforcement responsibilities, the prevention of terrorism takes precedence in investigations. The FBI also works with other federal, state and local law enforcement agencies in investigating matters of joint interest and in training law enforcement officers from around the world.
Key Requirements:
Please read the entire vacancy announcement carefully.

Major Duties:
As a newly appointed Special Agent, you will be assigned to one of
the FBI's field offices based on the current staffing and/or
critical specialty needs. New Agents are permitted to make known
their preference for assignment and consideration is given to your
desires; however, assignment will be based upon the staffing needs
of the FBI. An Agent can generally expect to remain in his/her
first office of assignment for a minimum of three years. Your first
months will be guided by a veteran Special Agent who will help you
apply the lessons learned at the FBI Academy.

Qualifications:
Just as some things can qualify you for a career as a Special Agent,
some things can disqualify you. These may include: conviction of a
felony or major misdemeanor; use of illegal drugs; or failure to
pass a drug-screening test. All candidates will be given a polygraph
examination to determine the veracity of information provided in the
application for employment to include the extent of any illegal drug
usage and issues surrounding security concerns.

Please review the Special Agent Selection Process Application Booklet
(SASPAB).
In order to be minimally qualified as a Special Agent you must meet
one of the following:A four-year degree from an accredited
college/university, plus three years of full-time work experience OR
An advanced degree from an accredited college/university, plus two
years of full-time work experience, excluding internships, co-
operations, summer or temporary employment.A Juris
Doctorate
degree from an accredited law school.A four-year degree or
an advanced degree from an accredited college-university, plus
fluency in a foreign language.A four-year degree in
Computer
Science or a related discipline from an accredited
college/university.A four-year degree or an advance degree
from an accredited college/university, in addition to being a Cisco
Certified Network Professional (CCNP) or a Cisco Certified
Internetworking Expert (CCIE).A certified CPA OR A four-
year
business degree that included or was supplemented by 24 hours of
accounting courses and an additional six semester hours of business
law or other elective business courses, and two years of
progressively responsible accounting work in a professional
accounting firm or comparable public setting.

To carry out its mission, the FBI needs men and women who can fill a
variety of demanding positions. To qualify as an FBI Special Agent,
you must:
be a U.S. citizen or a citizen of the Northern Mariana
Islands,
be at least 23 and not have reached your 37th birthday on
appointment,
be completely available for assignment anywhere in the FBI's
jurisdiction,
have uncorrected vision not worse than 20/200 (Snellen) and
corrected 20/20 in one eye and not worse than 20/40 in the other
eye,
pass a color vision test,
meet hearing standards by audiometer test (no applicant will be
considered who exceeds the following: a) average hearing loss of 25
decibels (ANSI) at 1000, 2000, and 3000 Hertz; b) single reading of
35 decibels at 1000, 2000, and 3000 Hertz; c) single reading of 35
decibels at 500 Hertz; and d) single reading of 45 decibels at 4000
Hertz,
possess a valid driver's license,
be in excellent physical condition with no defects which would
interfere in firearm use, raids, or defensive tactics, and
possess a four-year degree from a college or university
accredited by one of the regional or national institutional
associations recognized by the United States Secretary of
Education.

CRITICAL SKILL NEEDS

Candidates who otherwise meet entry requirements and possess one or
more of the following critical skills are currently deemed essential
to address our increasingly complex responsibilities and will be
prioritized in the hiring process.

Accounting/Finance
Computer Science and other Information Technology
specialties
Engineering
Foreign Language Proficiency (Arabic, Farsi, Pashtu, Urdu, all
dialects of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Spanish, and
Vietnamese)
Intelligence Experience
Law Experience
Law Enforcement or other Investigative Experience
Military Experience
Physical Sciences (Physics, Chemistry, Biology, etc.)

Although the above listing includes the most critical investigative
skill needs, the FBI continues to be a diverse agency with employees
possessing various experiences. Candidates who possess skills and
experience such as business, education, and health care are also
encouraged to apply.

ENTRY PROGRAMS

LAW
To qualify under the Law Program, you must have a JD degree from a
resident law school.

ACCOUNTING/FINANCE
Any applicant who wishes to be considered for the Accounting Program
may qualify when he/she either: 1) Has been certified as a CPA; OR
2)
Possesses a four year business degree with a major in accounting, or
related business degree that included or was supplemented by 24
hours
of accounting courses and an additional six semester hours of
business law or other elective business courses, and two years of
progressively responsible accounting work in a professional
accounting firm or comparable public setting, such as a state
comptroller or the General Accounting Office, the last which would
be
in a management, team leader or other type of position which would
provide experiences in a variety of areas (banking, insurance,
problem solving, etc.) and allow for exposure and experiences
dealing
with higher level organizational entities, i.e., partners and
directors.

LANGUAGE
To qualify under the Language Program, you must have a BS or BA
degree in any discipline and be proficient in a language that meets
the needs of the FBI Candidates will be expected to pass a Language
Proficiency Test.

COMPUTER SCIENCE/INFORMATION TECHONOLOGY(CS/IT)
To qualify under the CS/IT Special Entry Program, the applicant must
have a computer or information technology related degree, a degree
in
Electrical Engineering, a Cisco Certified Network Professional
(CCNP)
certification, or a Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert (CCIE)
certification.

DIVERSIFIED
To qualify under the Diversified Program, you must have a BS or BA
degree in any discipline, plus three years of full-time work
experience, or an advanced degree accompanied by two years of full-
time work experience. Competitive candidates will complete a battery
of written tests and, in some cases, specialized testing in your
field of expertise. If you pass these tests, you may be eligible for
an interview based upon your overall qualifications, your
competitiveness among other candidates, and the needs of the FBI.

Successful completion of the written test and an interview will be
followed by a thorough background investigation that will include:
credit and arrest checks; interviews of associates; contacts with
personal and business references, past employers and neighbors; and
verification of educational achievements.


How You Will Be Evaluated:
To ensure that FBI Special Agents (SA) are fully prepared to meet
their responsibilities as leaders in the law enforcement community,
applicants must pass a standardized Physical Fitness Test (PFT).

The test consists of the following four mandatory events:

one minute sit-ups
a 300-meter sprint
maximum push-ups
a one and one half mile (1.5 mile) run.

Applicants must pass the PFT in order to be eligible for admission
into a New Agent Training (NAT) class. The protocol and scoring
standards for the PFT may be viewed by clicking the following link:
Physical Fitness Test Protocol.

Each new Agent serves a two-year probationary period upon entering
on
duty with the FBI. However, preference eligible veterans serve a one
year probationary period.

At the FBI Academy, you will join a class of Special Agent trainees
for 18 weeks of intensive training at one of the world's finest law
enforcement training facilities.

Your classroom hours will be spent studying a wide variety of
academic and investigative subjects. The FBI Academy curriculum also
includes intensive training in physical fitness, defensive tactics,
practical application exercises, and the use of firearms. Several
tests will be administered in all of these areas to monitor your
progress. Upon successful completion of Academy training, you will
graduate and receive the credentials of an FBI Special Agent.

The physical training requirements at the FBI Academy can be viewed
by clicking the following link: Pre-Quantico Kit.

Benefits:
Special Agents enter as GS-10 employees on the law enforcement
government pay scale and can advance to the GS-13 grade level in
field non-supervisory assignments. Promotions to supervisory,
management, and executive positions are available in grades GS-14
and GS-15 as well as in the Senior Executive Service.

All Special Agents may qualify for availability pay, which is an
additional premium compensation for unscheduled duty equaling 25
percent of the Agent's base salary.

As an FBI employee, you will be entitled to a variety of benefits,
including group health and life insurance programs, vacation and
sick pay, and a full retirement plan.


Other Information:
The FBI will be assessing applicants on a monthly basis. As such, a
new Special Agent vacancy announcement will be posted at the
beginning of each month. Once you apply to a Special Agent vacancy
announcement, you do not need to reapply unless your skills and
qualifications have changed.

How To Apply:
You may submit an online application for this position by selecting the 'Apply Online' button at the Bottom of this announcement or by connecting to http://www.fbijobs.gov/032.asp


Required Documents:
Do not send additional information unless specifically requested by
the FBI.

Contact Information:
Applicant Recruiter
Phone: 202-278-2432
Fax: 202-324-3000
Email: agent.applicant@ic.fbi.gov

Or write:
Special Agent
935 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Mail Stop PA-520-2
Washington, DC 20535
Fax: 202-324-3000


What To Expect Next:
Only applicants possessing the following critical skills will be processed at this time. For definitions of each critical skill, please click on it.
Accounting/Finance (Accounting/Finance Degree/CPA/or at least 2 years relative work experience)
Computer Science or other Information Technology specialties
Engineering
Fluent in a Foreign Language
Intelligence Experience
Law Enforcement or other Investigative Experience
Military Experience
Science (such as Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics, Biology, Nursing, Bio-chemistry, Forensics, Medical Specialties, etc.)

The United States Government does not discriminate in employment on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, political affiliation, sexual orientation, marital status, disability, age, membership in an employee organization, or other non-merit factor.

Federal agencies must provide reasonable accommodation to applicants with disabilities where appropriate. Applicants requiring reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and hiring process should contact the hiring agency directly. Determinations on requests for reasonable accommodation will be made on a case-by-case basis.

Veterans who served on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces and were separated under honorable conditions may be eligible for veterans' preference. For service beginning after October 15, 1976, the veteran must have served the required length of time and have a Campaign Badge, Expeditionary Medal, a service-connected disability, or have served in the Gulf War between August 2, 1990, and January 2, 1992.

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SR-25
07-02-2007, 12:13 PM
Does anyone have information on how the TRP works with the FBI?

jchughes05
07-02-2007, 12:56 PM
Direct link from FBIjobs.gov:

http://www.fbijobs.gov/116.asp

Tactical Recruiting Program.
The operational tempo for HRT has been high in the years since the terrorist attacks of 9/11/01. This has required that the staffing of HRT be increased to meet these demands. For the first time, the FBI is seeking candidates with special tactical qualifications, to become Special Agents (SA), and to serve as HRT Operators. This competitive program will be open to candidates with extensive tactical experience. To qualify, candidates must be fully qualified as Special Agents, and possess at least three years of either law enforcement or military tactical experience. Tactical candidates should be in excellent physical condition. Performance on the Special Agent Physical Fitness Test is expected in excess of minimum requirements. Physical fitness is one of the dimensions evaluated in this competitive program. Candidates must also demonstrate motivation and commitment to apply for the HRT when eligible, and to serve on the team if selected. Persons employed under the FBI Tactical SA program will receive accelerated eligibility to attend HRT selection, with possible assignment to the HRT.

To apply for the FBI Tactical Recruiting Program (TRP), applicants must first apply for the FBI Special Agent position using the on-line application. The link to the TRP application is located at the end of the SA application. Those candidates who qualify as SA applicants and the TRP based on the on-line applications, will be scheduled for the Phase I test. Those candidates who pass the Phase I test will then have a telephonic interview with the TRP program manager at HRT to ensure the candidate is fully informed about the TRP as it relates to the SA hiring process, and that the candidate understands all of the ramifications of the program.

Those candidates who pass the telephonic interview will continue their processing as TRP candidates. Those candidates not deemed eligible as TRP candidates will be so informed, and will continue their SA processing under their original critical skills category. Those persons not accepted as TRP candidates, who later become FBI SAs, will be eligible to try out for HRT under existing program guidelines.


Tactical Experience Requirements.
To qualify for the Tactical Recruiting Program (TRP), you will need to bring some special skills, talents, and experience. All candidates will be rated based on their experience levels, and the most qualified will be eligible for this program. Each candidate will have the opportunity to summarize tactical training and experience in the Tactical Recruiting Program on-line application, which may be accessed after completing the Special Agent application. Here is a snapshot of those qualifications.

Must have at least 3 years of tactical experience in either law enforcement or the military.

Law Enforcement Experience:
With a Federal Agency tactical team (This category includes all Military Police.).


Or with a Local/County/State Agency or Department tactical team.
- Full-time tactical team experience will carry more weight than part-time experience.

- Completion of continuing education courses in at least three of the following: Basic SWAT • Advanced SWAT • Hostage Rescue • High Risk Arrest • Barricaded Subject • Basic Sniper/Observer • Advanced Sniper/Observer • Tactical Firearms • Mechanical Breaching

Military Experience – Army
Combat Arms experience. Service in Special Forces Group or Ranger Regiment will carry more weight.

Military Experience – Navy
Must have served in the Naval Special Warfare Community as a SEAL or Naval Special Warfare Officer.

Military Experience – Marine Corps
Combat Arms experience.

Military Experience – Air Force
Must have served in Combat Controller, Combat Rescue (Pararescue), or Tactical Air Control Party fields.

SR-25
07-02-2007, 01:26 PM
Awesome, thank you for the info.

jchughes05
07-02-2007, 01:28 PM
No problem. Good luck!

cabo0351
07-02-2007, 01:36 PM
SR-25: Nice to see another FAST hard-charger on the forum. I was FAST from 97-99 (when there was only one company... they just began working on 2nd FAST when I was leaving for the FMF). Good luck!
S/F

SR-25
07-02-2007, 01:39 PM
SR-25: Nice to see another FAST hard-charger on the forum. I was FAST from 97-99 (when there was only one company... they just began working on 2nd FAST when I was leaving for the FMF). Good luck!
S/F

OHHRAHH DEVIL. Theres actually 3 companies now. Where did you go when you PCSed?

zxcvbnm
07-03-2007, 07:23 PM
Just to make sure I'm reading it correctly, you cannot use summer or part time employment to count towards your 3 years correct?

cabo0351
07-05-2007, 01:41 PM
I went to 1/6, then worked for the 2MarDiv CG and then got a job at the Pentagon with Legislative Affairs for my last 3 years in. Now with VA State PD.

zxcvbnm
12-01-2007, 01:57 PM
"Special Agent candidates must commit to serving the FBI as a Special
Agent for three years (this includes the initial two-year
probationary period)."


Is this new? What exactly does that mean?

Bearcat357
12-01-2007, 02:51 PM
"Special Agent candidates must commit to serving the FBI as a Special
Agent for three years (this includes the initial two-year
probationary period)."


Is this new? What exactly does that mean?

It means you still have to be a SA for (3) years before you can go into the program.....

zxcvbnm
12-02-2007, 07:25 PM
It means you still have to be a SA for (3) years before you can go into the program.....


Did I copy it from a different place than I'm thinking?

I thought it was just for the general SA announcement. I wondered what makes it different, because if you quit before 3 years, what would be the difference?

Bearcat357
12-02-2007, 07:59 PM
Did I copy it from a different place than I'm thinking?

I thought it was just for the general SA announcement. I wondered what makes it different, because if you quit before 3 years, what would be the difference?

No clue...as I don't work for them....but I know enough SA's that work for them that have stated even with the program, you still have to do 3 years as a Field Agent before you can apply and try-out.....

It may have changed....but that's the word they have told me....

Up_On_Base
12-02-2007, 08:37 PM
FBI SA is probably one the hardest Fed LE jobs to land, I know you need a critical skill for them to even look at your application.

In the past the critical skills were accounting/JD degree/LE experience. Last I heard from the Bureau is looking hard for qualified applicants w/ IT and Language skills. Many people who have these skills can't pass the PFT for SA so if you want to get in the door w/ the FBI gain one of these skills and get in shape.

They pay better than most, pretty sure they start at GS10 for new SA's. There is a ton of info regarding the FBI on 911hotjobs.

SA13
12-03-2007, 01:45 AM
"Special Agent candidates must commit to serving the FBI as a Special
Agent for three years (this includes the initial two-year
probationary period)."


Is this new? What exactly does that mean?If this is from the general SA job announcement it's mostly BS. The FBI and other agencies will ask you to sign a commitment to stay in the job for 3 years, and if you don't they may try to make you pay back the costs of your training, initial move (if paid for by the government), etc. However, while the agencies try to word these agreements to say you are committing to stay with that agency for the specified period, they've never been able to make that stick, as long as you stay in the federal government when you leave. If you switch agencies within the federal government they cannot get a nickle out of you. If you leave fed service altogether then it is an enforceable agreement.

SA13
12-03-2007, 01:54 AM
FBI SA is probably on the hardest Fed LE jobs to land . . .That's debatable. There are OIGs out there with less than a dozen agents. Someone needs to retire, die, or quit before they can even hire someone new. I'd say those jobs are MUCH harder to get than one with a big agency like the FBI that is constantly hiring. In general all the OIG jobs are very hard to get. Most have very few agents nationwide, and therefore openings are rare, and when they have openings most tend to recruit people who are already federal agents rather than people coming from other areas.

OIGs are just one example, there are others.

5K Runner
12-03-2007, 08:40 AM
I'm not old enough, but does anyone have any information on the CS/IT Special Entry Program? I'm finishing up my degree in Comp Sci.

zxcvbnm
12-03-2007, 04:23 PM
If this is from the general SA job announcement it's mostly BS. The FBI and other agencies will ask you to sign a commitment to stay in the job for 3 years, and if you don't they may try to make you pay back the costs of your training, initial move (if paid for by the government), etc. However, while the agencies try to word these agreements to say you are committing to stay with that agency for the specified period, they've never been able to make that stick, as long as you stay in the federal government when you leave. If you switch agencies within the federal government they cannot get a nickle out of you. If you leave fed service altogether then it is an enforceable agreement.


Thank you, that's what I was trying to understand. Must be a pretty penny for the training...

Bearcat357
12-03-2007, 04:26 PM
I'm not old enough, but does anyone have any information on the CS/IT Special Entry Program? I'm finishing up my degree in Comp Sci.

www.fbijobs.com

df2338
12-06-2007, 09:08 AM
so leo is now one of their critical skills? thats new, and nice. I heard they were the most cop unfriendly agency. So let me get this straight. start as gs10, then 11, 12, 13? one each year? HRT sounds sweet, but they wont tell you were you're going til you get a job from what I hear. How is their hiring process compared to usss sa? any thoughts on how the job is, pros and cons?

Up_On_Base
12-06-2007, 09:44 AM
so leo is now one of their critical skills? thats new, and nice. I heard they were the most cop unfriendly agency. So let me get this straight. start as gs10, then 11, 12, 13? one each year? HRT sounds sweet, but they wont tell you were you're going til you get a job from what I hear. How is their hiring process compared to usss sa? any thoughts on how the job is, pros and cons?

Prior LE/military experience is never a bad thing but you also need additional critical skills to be competitive: Language, IT, or accounting....pretty sure they are the top one right now.

The process is similar to the USSS-SA but also has 2 PFT's you need to pass during phase one and phase two, details on fbijobs.com

hkfan
12-16-2007, 11:45 AM
i just got notification that I passed the phase one test. God knows how long Ill have to wait to get called for phase 2.

nodeal
12-16-2007, 02:39 PM
does anybody know how much importance they place on degrees in the physical sciences? i plan on getting a bachelors in biology, and am interested in a job with the fbi.

Up_On_Base
12-20-2007, 08:32 PM
does anybody know how much importance they place on degrees in the physical sciences? i plan on getting a bachelors in biology, and am interested in a job with the fbi.

I recently took my Phase I test and the math section is eliminated.

My FO mentioned as of Dec 1, unless you have a IT background, previous LE/military experience (HRT candidates), or language skills you will not get tested because the current pool of accountants/lawyers/etc is huge and will last for 2 years.

No mention of how many people they expect to hire but they were stressing PT and it's importance. It makes sense to me but some people just don't "get it" that you need to be in shape or you will get yourself/someone else killed.

My testing group was a strange mix of people some did not wear a suit, 2 in jeans, some unshaved, 2 people late, and some guy wore a winter hat the entire session. I know my former agency would never allow that to happen but the FBI seemed very laid back but I am sure that changes moving forward.

Overall very impressive agency and the people were very open/helpful.

StateChamp
01-01-2008, 12:00 PM
I have also recently took the Phase 1 test but found out I had failed it. :(like the post above they are stressing PFT. I was wondering to myself also how some of these people would pass that test.

They also did stress the importance of IT background with a language skill, I had both unfortunately I failed. Maybe it was cause I didn't dress in a suit or didn't study the right study guide. I was down on myself for a bit but I am still young and have one more chance in a year. :) anyone planning on taking this test I would throw on a suit and not be late. there were also people in my group that were late. and the recruiter did not like that. I think I was the youngest one in the room. good luck to all.

Up_On_Base
01-01-2008, 04:25 PM
I have also recently took the Phase 1 test but found out I had failed it. :(like the post above they are stressing PFT. I was wondering to myself also how some of these people would pass that test.

They also did stress the importance of IT background with a language skill, I had both unfortunately I failed. Maybe it was cause I didn't dress in a suit or didn't study the right study guide. I was down on myself for a bit but I am still young and have one more chance in a year. :) anyone planning on taking this test I would throw on a suit and not be late. there were also people in my group that were late. and the recruiter did not like that. I think I was the youngest one in the room. good luck to all.

Sounds like you learned a good lesson by not showing up w/ proper attire, just move on and do the right thing in the future.

The phase 1 test was hard, I should find out this week how I did. I thought that test was much easier than the TEA exam.

SA13
01-01-2008, 05:12 PM
Maybe it was cause I didn't dress in a suit . . . You either pass the test or not based on your actual performance on the test, not what you're wearing when taking it. So if they said you didn't pass the test you need to work on test prep. However, the Applicant Coordinator can take other things into consideration when deciding who to recommend for the Phase II interview.

I always tell people that whatever you're doing in the application process assume you are being thoroughly evaluated. That means unless you're doing a physical fitness test that would require you to wear workout clothes, you always show up in a suit an tie.

When I tested with my current agency there were over 50 people in a huge room taking the test, and in that case it likely didn't matter. For another agency I expected there would be dozens of people showing up for the test and there were three of us, and it was easy to for the recruiter to ID who showed up looking professional v. who looked like a slacker. You never know ahead of time what you're going to get, so it pays to approach each step in the process like you're scheduled to be personally shaking hands with the director of the agency.

ryh03001
01-02-2008, 12:48 AM
What exactly is the FBI SA phase I test. Are there any study guides out there recommended? And is it a written test or multiple choice. thanks

Up_On_Base
01-02-2008, 08:55 AM
What exactly is the FBI SA phase I test. Are there any study guides out there recommended? And is it a written test or multiple choice. thanks

It's a 3 part test, all multiple choice and it takes 3-4 hours. Details at www.fbijobs.gov

SouthResident
01-02-2008, 05:40 PM
Well I am pretty excited; therefore, wanted to share with everyone...I have been scheduled (January) for Phase I of the testing process with the FBI. I don't know how I will do, but I am glad I have the opportunity. I just graduated with my degree in Computer Science (long road) and have close to 10 years IT experience (military/private sector). I've heard that this is somthing that they are looking for. I am also almost done with my personal trainer cert. I know someone mentioned earlier that most IT candidates have a hard time with the physical fitness test, so I hope that my knowledge as well as hard work excercising pay off, but from what I have researched the fitness portion is still going to be very challenging. Well anyways, I wish everyone luck in their endeavors and welcome any advice.

Up_On_Base
01-02-2008, 09:06 PM
Here is a link to the PT breakdown.

http://www.fbijobs.gov/11131.asp

blakech47
01-03-2008, 01:19 AM
I recently took my Phase I test and the math section is eliminated.

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I'm just making sure. Are you saying that there is not a math section at all on the test? This would be surprising considering it seemed to be a big portion of the study material that I have seen up till present time. Not that I'm complaining, not a big math fan myself.

Bearcat357
01-03-2008, 02:20 AM
Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I'm just making sure. Are you saying that there is not a math section at all on the test? This would be surprising considering it seemed to be a big portion of the study material that I have seen up till present time. Not that I'm complaining, not a big math fan myself.

He (Up On Base) just took the test....so one would suspect that he knows what he's talking about.....

Up_On_Base
01-03-2008, 08:55 AM
Yes, they eliminated the math section so disregard the onlne study material.

GrayPatriot
01-03-2008, 10:01 AM
I'm not old enough, but does anyone have any information on the CS/IT Special Entry Program? I'm finishing up my degree in Comp Sci.


i just got notification that I passed the phase one test. God knows how long Ill have to wait to get called for phase 2.

I took Phase 1 around 3.5yrs ago and I have a CS degree and military background. I was far along with the NYSP at the time so I went with them before phase II (That FD-140 was a pain to try and fill out). Anyway, I was receiving letters in the mail every 4 months or so telling me I was still eligible (didn't need to retake phase I) and to contact my local FBI office. Then a few months ago I received another letter (over 3 yrs later) and within a week I received another letter, but this one stated I was no longer being considered, though if I had added to my critical skills to update it and I may be reconsidered at a later date. I just though it was weird that I was kept in their mailing list for so long.

When I went through CS/IT and languages (Farsi and Arabic langiages preferred) were the top critical skills they were looking for and it sounds like they are still in demand. I was contacted via phone that I passed Phase I and told to complete the FD-140 and get it sent in pronto as they were trying to push a class through. Based on another forum I was keeping tabs on people who tested with me went through Phase two within a few weeks later maybe a month and the whole process took them less than 7 months. I think this may have been unique. There is another forum out there that has an extensive FBI thread with a lot of information. Google is your friend.

StateChamp
01-03-2008, 09:30 PM
that sounds good that they were still interested in you (grayPatriot). I had IT/CS background and language but my DumbA#$ failed Phase 1. besides that point, YES they did eliminate the math section. if you're using the green/black study guide that book doesn't help at all. I studied it and didn't even help me.

Any have any recommendations for a good study guide for future reference any for others? Thanks:)

ryh03001
01-04-2008, 02:15 AM
I understand that a FBI SA starts off as a GS-10 step 1. How does one move up in steps and in GS ranking? And how long does it usually take? And what grade do SA top out at? thanks

Up_On_Base
01-13-2008, 05:17 PM
Got word I passed Phase 1 and now have to hurry up and wait.

Anyone take the language test for FBI? I will be testing for both Arabic and Spanish, any advice would be great...thanks!

Also, I know you can't work out of the FO you test, anyone know where most new SA's get sent? I'd imagine DC, NYC, Boston, LA, SF, and other high price areas.

ezwy
01-13-2008, 08:52 PM
Got word I passed Phase 1 and now have to hurry up and wait.

Anyone take the language test for FBI? I will be testing for both Arabic and Spanish, any advice would be great...thanks!

Also, I know you can't work out of the FO you test, anyone know where most new SA's get sent? I'd imagine DC, NYC, Boston, LA, SF, and other high price areas.

Good job UOB! Arabic and Spanish? Wow did you take some classes for that?

I'm on the outside and have no special knowledge, but based on what I've read around other boards and such, it's not entirely clear that you couldn't maybe, possibly, remain where you are if that location was, for example, DC.

Again I don't know anything for sure beyond what might be rumors, and I'm sure it wouldn't be prudent to assume it would be the case, but there's just enough discussion about this to make one think it's not always 100% certain not to remain in-place.

Maybe others who know for sure can comment.

ryh03001
01-14-2008, 12:18 AM
After you finish at Quantico you will be asked to rank in order of preference a top 50 list of cities in which you want to be stationed. The SA I talked to said they for the most part have been pretty good in assigning you to a field office from a city in your top 10.

StateChamp
01-14-2008, 10:41 AM
Got word I passed Phase 1 and now have to hurry up and wait.

Anyone take the language test for FBI? I will be testing for both Arabic and Spanish, any advice would be great...thanks!

Also, I know you can't work out of the FO you test, anyone know where most new SA's get sent? I'd imagine DC, NYC, Boston, LA, SF, and other high price areas.

During my phase 1 test my recruiter told us that there was zero percent chance of staying where we were getting recruited out of. Like above, you get a preference and they're usually good at hitting within your top ten even top 3. The reason for this is they know you will work harder and be happy in a place where you want to be. hope this helps..Good luck to you UOB.

now I have a question for you, What guide did you study out of for preparing for the exam?

Up_On_Base
01-14-2008, 12:47 PM
now I have a question for you, What guide did you study out of for preparing for the exam?

I didn't study once I heard the math section was eliminated, I stink at math. I also tested for USPIS and both test had similar deductive/inductive reasoning sections but I thought the FBI test was much more in-depth and tricky.

I would recommend a LSAT review for the reasoning section or even the ARCO TEA review. Just look at the reasoning sections, other sections you can't study for, it's a profile.

If I recall there are 3 sections:
1- Personality profile about 40 mins (Be consistant)
2- Resoning about 90 mins
3- Work condition profile about 30 min

StateChamp
01-14-2008, 01:45 PM
I didn't study once I heard the math section was eliminated, I stink at math. I also tested for USPIS and both test had similar deductive/inductive reasoning sections but I thought the FBI test was much more in-depth and tricky.

I would recommend a LSAT review for the reasoning section or even the ARCO TEA review. Just look at the reasoning sections, other sections you can't study for, it's a profile.

If I recall there are 3 sections:
1- Personality profile about 40 mins (Be consistant)
2- Resoning about 90 mins
3- Work condition profile about 30 min

Thanks, I will use that for future reference, next December I can retake phase 1 for the FBI. I used a study guide that still had the math section in it with other irrelevant facts and material(which i focused on) :mad: Now that I got a taste of the FBI i won't give up until I reach my goal.

PhoenixCadet
03-18-2008, 04:12 PM
I didn't want to start an entirely new thread on the subject, as I only have a few questions (at the moment). I hope it's not a problem posting them in here.

I recently found out that I could be disqualified from military service. My dream has always been to join the Marines as an infantry officer. I am not totally for sure about this - but I will be contacting my friend's father who is a Navy neurosurgeon. He will hopefully be able to give me some answers. If the military DOES work out, and if it doesn't, I'm still hoping to incorporate the FBI into it (see below).

My first question is: What can your day-to-day schedule look like as an FBI SA? If you wanted to raise a family, will this career hurt that factor?

Question two: It states that for the Military Critical Skill within the Marines, combat arms service is required. That's perfect for me, as infantry is what I'd be hoping to do if I got in. My question here is, how does the FBI deal with Reservists?

If, lets say, I commissioned as a Marine officer, served the minimum active dity term as an infantry officer, and then transferred to the USMCR, (1) will the time spent on active duty count towards the Military Critical Skill even though I haven't been "discharged" and (2) what is the process for an FBI SA who is called up to active duty? I know it states on the FBI website that you are allowed to be a serving reservist at the same time - I'm just looking for a more specific answer.

My last question is regarding medical. I have a condition called hydrocephalus, or, "water on the brain". To counter that (I was diagnosed at 6-weeks of age), a neurosurgeon implanted a "VP shunt" device, which basically re-routes the flow of cerebro-spinal fluid (CSF) to the brain. I recently had minor corrective surgery on the tube and had another put it. It may sound bad, but (if you can say anything about this is "good"), I'm actually in a very, very good condition for someone who has what I do. In 15 years, I have had only ONE minor corrective surgery, whereas there are people much younger that I who have had two to three actual malfunctions and needed two or three extra devices implanted. (That... is bad.)

Sorry for the long explaination, but this has been bothering me for some time. It states on the FBI website that as long as you're able to perform the basic functions an FBI agent needs to, you should be alright. I fit that perfectly. I can pass the PFT with flying colors, no movement restrictions, I've very good with firearms :cool:...

What I would like to know is, is there a way that I could possibly contact some type of FBI medical officer and inquire about this? I'm only 15, so the process for me starting is a long way off - I'm just dying without an answer.

Thanks for your help!

Up_On_Base
03-18-2008, 05:02 PM
I didn't want to start an entirely new thread on the subject, as I only have a few questions (at the moment). I hope it's not a problem posting them in here.

I recently found out that I could be disqualified from military service. My dream has always been to join the Marines as an infantry officer. I am not totally for sure about this - but I will be contacting my friend's father who is a Navy neurosurgeon. He will hopefully be able to give me some answers. If the military DOES work out, and if it doesn't, I'm still hoping to incorporate the FBI into it (see below).

My first question is: What can your day-to-day schedule look like as an FBI SA? If you wanted to raise a family, will this career hurt that factor?

Question two: It states that for the Military Critical Skill within the Marines, combat arms service is required. That's perfect for me, as infantry is what I'd be hoping to do if I got in. My question here is, how does the FBI deal with Reservists?

If, lets say, I commissioned as a Marine officer, served the minimum active dity term as an infantry officer, and then transferred to the USMCR, (1) will the time spent on active duty count towards the Military Critical Skill even though I haven't been "discharged" and (2) what is the process for an FBI SA who is called up to active duty? I know it states on the FBI website that you are allowed to be a serving reservist at the same time - I'm just looking for a more specific answer.

My last question is regarding medical. I have a condition called hydrocephalus, or, "water on the brain". To counter that (I was diagnosed at 6-weeks of age), a neurosurgeon implanted a "VP shunt" device, which basically re-routes the flow of cerebro-spinal fluid (CSF) to the brain. I recently had minor corrective surgery on the tube and had another put it. It may sound bad, but (if you can say anything about this is "good"), I'm actually in a very, very good condition for someone who has what I do. In 15 years, I have had only ONE minor corrective surgery, whereas there are people much younger that I who have had two to three actual malfunctions and needed two or three extra devices implanted. (That... is bad.)

Sorry for the long explaination, but this has been bothering me for some time. It states on the FBI website that as long as you're able to perform the basic functions an FBI agent needs to, you should be alright. I fit that perfectly. I can pass the PFT with flying colors, no movement restrictions, I've very good with firearms :cool:...

What I would like to know is, is there a way that I could possibly contact some type of FBI medical officer and inquire about this? I'm only 15, so the process for me starting is a long way off - I'm just dying without an answer.

Thanks for your help!

There are alot of "what ifs" in your post, here is my advice.

Get your degree and apply for USMC OCS. IF you graduate and become an Officer you will be around 26ish when you get out. At that point you could apply for some LE jobs (FBI, DEA, etc), what is a critical skill today will probably change 10 times by the time you are ready to apply.

You are only 15, enjoy being young and stay out of trouble. The rest will work out moving forward, send a letter to the FBI for DQ's and they will probably respond.

Good luck and again enjoy being young...oh yeah...have fun

HeavenSoldier
03-18-2008, 05:59 PM
Phoenix Cadet, get your degree first and make good decisions now. When you apply for the FBI they may stretch your background investigation to the age of 18. They will ask you everything from illegal drug use, daily alcohol consumption and if you ever cheated in college. Your honesty will be tested by the polygraph also. So making wise decisions is key now.

I can't answer your question regarding a SA daily life, but I did a search on amazon.com for a list of FBI books and I would buy some of these books http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/105-2045213-8199645?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fbi+careers.

I would also talk to a Applicant Coordinator where you live, http://sandiego.fbi.gov/contact.htm , or call them or e-mail them and ask them questions regarding your medical history or about the FBI in general. If you don't get answers there call FBI headquarters (202) 324-3000 in D.C. and speak with a medical officer or tell the receptionist your question and ask who you may speak to about that issue. God Bless

PhoenixCadet
03-18-2008, 07:12 PM
Thank you both for the responses. I appreciate the help.

As for my background - I'm a good kid. :)

No worries there. No criminal history, illegal drug use, etc.

I will contact the local FBI office and see what they say.

Again, I appreciate it.

Thanks and God Bless.

Alex