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dirtyduce
06-04-2007, 12:44 PM
The Next New York State Police are taking applications for there next test.


https://www.troopers.state.ny.us/Exam-Internet/

Jayc6018
06-04-2007, 01:07 PM
Humm I wonder if I'm eligible on the age requirement alone? I'm currently 29 and will turn 30 on the 19th of this month. That wouldn't affect anything would it?

dirtyduce
06-04-2007, 01:11 PM
You would not be able to take it unless you have time in the military.

Jayc6018
06-05-2007, 12:41 AM
Ahh well, NJSP here I come.

GrayPatriot
06-05-2007, 10:22 AM
New recruiting website:

http://www.nytrooper.com/

Outshined
06-05-2007, 11:12 AM
I took the NYSP test in 1985. Scored a 98% and was 5,800 or something on the list.

Jayc6018
06-06-2007, 03:05 AM
I took the NYSP test in 1985. Scored a 98% and was 5,800 or something on the list.

Wow thats a good score, did they ever call you?

Outshined
06-06-2007, 06:36 AM
No, they never reached me on the list.

SlowDownThere
06-06-2007, 07:20 AM
I took the NYSP test in 1985. Scored a 98% and was 5,800 or something on the list.

That's the test I took.

NYCRJmajor914
06-06-2007, 02:10 PM
hows the nys test like? where would they make u take the test? and where in ny u guys from? im from westchester county

SlowDownThere
06-06-2007, 02:52 PM
hows the nys test like? where would they make u take the test? and where in ny u guys from? im from westchester county

The test I took was so long ago that I'm sure it has changed a lot. But I found it rather easy. In fact, judging by a previous post in this thread, I must have scored either a 99 or 100 on it. I don't remember my spot on the list, I think someplace around 500.

By comparison, we are currently up to approximatly 10,000 on the current list.

NYCRJmajor914
06-06-2007, 06:11 PM
yea i was thinking about applying for it since its this year and its my next oppurtunity besides the nypd which i take next saturday. I pasted the new rochelle pd physical last sunday but my scores werent as well as i wanted them to be. For the towns and villages test isnt untill dec. '08 which is a while. But i debat if i want to be a state trooper or not, not really sure if i want that type of policing.

GrayPatriot
06-06-2007, 09:51 PM
. But i debat if i want to be a state trooper or not, not really sure if i want that type of policing.

What do you think our type of policing is????

GrayState
06-06-2007, 10:34 PM
You can do just about any type of policing that you want with the NYSP. I don't know any place where you've got more flexibility.

VZMan
06-06-2007, 11:12 PM
You can do just about any type of policing that you want with the NYSP. I don't know any place where you've got more flexibility.

+1

If you take the time to go through the new NYSP recruiting site, it is very evident that the possibilities are seemingly endless with regard to job functions available to an individual within the NYSP.

NYCRJmajor914
06-06-2007, 11:25 PM
sorry i should of clarified it... i meant like either highway patrol or rural town areas to patrol... i think i would enjoy being in a own city or town police force...

VZMan
06-06-2007, 11:48 PM
sorry i should of clarified it... i meant like either highway patrol or rural town areas to patrol... i think i would enjoy being in a own city or town police force...

This too is a possibility with the NYSP. I really can't speak to the details of it but, the NYSP does participate in Operation Impact where they join forces with local agencies (ie: City and Sheriff) and patrol cities where the NYS Government has deemed that the crime rates are too high.

Like I said, I don't specifically know who or what determines which memebers of the NYSP partake in these assignments but, it is a possibility. Maybe a current member of the NYSP may be able to better answer your question but just thought I would throw in my my limited knowledge of the subject as food for thought. :D

GrayState
06-07-2007, 12:27 AM
I haven't done it, but as is my understanding, troopers go into the city during operation impact and help with saturation patrols in high crime areas. If I want to spend all of my day in a village or town, barring complaints outside of that area, there's nothing stopping me. I try to be courteous if there is a local PD working at the time though. I couldn't imagine being confined to a single town or village.

Outshined
06-07-2007, 07:34 AM
I haven't done it, but as is my understanding, troopers go into the city during operation impact and help with saturation patrols in high crime areas. If I want to spend all of my day in a village or town, barring complaints outside of that area, there's nothing stopping me. I try to be courteous if there is a local PD working at the time though. I couldn't imagine being confined to a single town or village.

Hey now!! I have been confined to a village for 21 years, it ain't bad at all. LOL

I have had chances to transfer, but I never did. I love the people the place, and my position here. We have an SP barracks in our village, we work along side them and they work along side us. Not a day goes by when either one of my guys is there, or one of their guys are here. There a a few younger troops who have very little respect for us town cops, but most of the guys and gals are great around here.

NYCRJmajor914
06-07-2007, 08:35 AM
yea i would love to stay in my city where i grw up n all (New Rochelle) its growing pretty big Trump just put up a 40 something story apartments and at the same time a 30 something story building went up. How do they choose what troop barracks you go to? i wouldn't want to end up in middle of the state in some town that looks like its in the deep south or up buy the canadian border. My brothers g/f got in an accident on I-95 coupole months back and the guy just lefted her there on the side of the highway.. didnt even wait for a tow-truck to come

OTVFD18
06-07-2007, 09:28 AM
i wouldn't want to end up in middle of the state in some town that looks like its in the deep south or up buy the canadian border.

Deep south? What do you mean by that?

GrayPatriot
06-07-2007, 03:27 PM
sorry i should of clarified it... i meant like either highway patrol or rural town areas to patrol... i think i would enjoy being in a own city or town police force...

In my patrol area we have had 3 armed robberies in the past month. Now that may not seem like alot but there is 2-3 state police cars covering that post and around the same number of deputies.

In the past 6 weeks or so I have made arrests (soe with BCI) for Endagering *3, Burg *4, Vehicle Larceny *3, Crim Mischief * 4, Petit Larceny *2, Theft of services, Menacing *3, Dis Con *3, and numerous harassment charges -- this is what I recall top of my head. I don't tack on BS charges too or I could double the amount of arrests. We have everything here. A typical Sunday night for me is 2-4 Domestics, at least one fight in progress, a Crim Mischief or a Larceny, suspicious person/vehicle, and an accident or 2. Anywhere from 6-10 calls per guy in the Summer and you may have to drive 25 miles to one call and then 20 back in the other direction.

Operation Impact:
This is more a ticket writing detail. yeah, we go into high crime areas and make a presence but we take all the plate readers and basically do V+T only.

John2008
06-28-2007, 10:36 PM
yea i was thinking about applying for it since its this year and its my next oppurtunity besides the nypd which i take next saturday. I pasted the new rochelle pd physical last sunday but my scores werent as well as i wanted them to be. For the towns and villages test isnt untill dec. '08 which is a while. But i debat if i want to be a state trooper or not, not really sure if i want that type of policing.

How come? I would love to be a New York State Trooper, They do a lot of stuff but people think they only do highway patrol and think they can only pull people over on the State Parkways ( I don't know where people get this idea). I like the state police because not everyone can pass their academy and once your graduate and passed your probation period your pretty independent and I like that. and plus your not stuck in just one county or town so you see a lot of different things.

John2008
06-28-2007, 10:40 PM
In my patrol area we have had 3 armed robberies in the past month. Now that may not seem like alot but there is 2-3 state police cars covering that post and around the same number of deputies.

In the past 6 weeks or so I have made arrests (soe with BCI) for Endagering *3, Burg *4, Vehicle Larceny *3, Crim Mischief * 4, Petit Larceny *2, Theft of services, Menacing *3, Dis Con *3, and numerous harassment charges -- this is what I recall top of my head. I don't tack on BS charges too or I could double the amount of arrests. We have everything here. A typical Sunday night for me is 2-4 Domestics, at least one fight in progress, a Crim Mischief or a Larceny, suspicious person/vehicle, and an accident or 2. Anywhere from 6-10 calls per guy in the Summer and you may have to drive 25 miles to one call and then 20 back in the other direction.

Operation Impact:
This is more a ticket writing detail. yeah, we go into high crime areas and make a presence but we take all the plate readers and basically do V+T only.

does the computer in the car have some type of G.P.S system or anything or you just have to know every single street in that wide geographical area because a single trooper covers a large area I always wonder that.

GrayPatriot
06-29-2007, 08:11 AM
does the computer in the car have some type of G.P.S system or anything or you just have to know every single street in that wide geographical area because a single trooper covers a large area I always wonder that.

I have never needed to pull out a map; in fact, I don't even carry one. I use our GPS and it hasn't let me down yet. The only time you might run into a problem is when the change a street name or the GPS may refer to a Village/Town street as County Route or State Route.

You can always can always contact dispatch and they can check their computer and tell you what house on the street you are looking for pretty easily.

John2008
06-29-2007, 08:14 AM
I have never needed to pull out a map; in fact, I don't even carry one. I use our GPS and it hasn't let me down yet. The only time you might run into a problem is when the change a street name or the GPS may refer to a Village/Town street as County Route or State Route.

You can always can always contact dispatch and they can check their computer and tell you what house on the street you are looking for pretty easily.

oooooo,ok thank you very much.

SlowDownThere
06-29-2007, 01:38 PM
does the computer in the car have some type of G.P.S system or anything or you just have to know every single street in that wide geographical area because a single trooper covers a large area I always wonder that.

Ah technology!

Back in the day we had to learn every street/road in the state. Those were the days.:)

John2008, you taking the next test?

http://www.nytrooper.com/

John2008
06-29-2007, 04:33 PM
Ah technology!

Back in the day we had to learn every street/road in the state. Those were the days.:)

John2008, you taking the next test?

http://www.nytrooper.com/


YUP, I signed up the very first day the announcement came out. even tho the test is in Jan, I really want to be a NYS trooper. I'm aiming for 95-100 on the test. I just hope if I do get the job I don't get station really far because I'm from Long Island, I would like to be in troop NYC,Troop L, Troop K.

FUCCO
06-30-2007, 02:49 PM
When i started we did not have the computers. I remember going to B troop and opening my locker to see maps the previous trooper left me. I used to get lost all the time. By the time u figured out streets and such u are transfered out.

GrayState
06-30-2007, 08:59 PM
I suppose I've been a bit lazy about learning every road, partially because I expect to be transferred out. Another problem is that my patrol area is massive.

I always have two fold out maps, a map book, a map of NYS, and both map programs open on the computer... little map crazy I guess. Although, seasonal roads can be a real pain, and sometimes there are roads on the map that don't even exist anymore.

John2008
06-30-2007, 09:10 PM
I suppose I've been a bit lazy about learning every road, partially because I expect to be transferred out. Another problem is that my patrol area is massive.

I always have two fold out maps, a map book, a map of NYS, and both map programs open on the computer... little map crazy I guess. Although, seasonal roads can be a real pain, and sometimes there are roads on the map that don't even exist anymore.

wow, question if I was to grad from the academy and everything how good of a chance do I have to be station in Troop NYC,Troop L, Troop F,Troop K?

GrayState
06-30-2007, 09:27 PM
From my understanding, Troop F and K are yours for the taking if that is where you want to go. I wouldn't count on L for a bit though.

John2008
06-30-2007, 09:37 PM
From my understanding, Troop F and K are yours for the taking if that is where you want to go. I wouldn't count on L for a bit though.

oooo ok that's not too bad, I live on Long Island so does my family so I would Pick F or K if they would let me because that way I'm not toooo far from home. I'll rather do F or K to because out here in Troop L all they mainly do is northern state parkway,Southern State Parkway and the State parks. and plus it would be a good experience to work in a different part of the state. thanks for the info GrayState, I hope I get the job :-)

FUCCO
06-30-2007, 11:05 PM
F YES
K YES
L HAS A WAIT 1-3 YEARS
NYC - no uniform bci only therefore no

John2008
07-01-2007, 12:01 AM
F YES
K YES
L HAS A WAIT 1-3 YEARS
NYC - no uniform bci only therefore no

ooo ok thank you very much for the info, if I can't get troop L I'll be happy in Troop K or Troop F, :-)

NYSP61
07-01-2007, 12:04 AM
What do A, E, D and B troops look like as far as going to them directly after graduation?

Is there anything a recruit in the academy can do to increase his/her chances of working in the troop of his/her choice right after graduation?

Does overall academic average (or other) at the academy have anything to do with troop assignments?

Thanks!

FUCCO
07-01-2007, 02:23 PM
A - NO THERE IS LIST
E- NOT SURE BUT I DOUBT IT
D- YES
B ALWAYS YES

Permanent troop placement after graduation is based on your class ranking. Class ranking is based on what u scored on the inital sp exam. AKA your numeric rank number on the exam list. However the bottom line is they put u where they need u. Troop placement is based on senority and since a recruit is the lowest in senority u really dont have a choice. There are always troopers in b,f and k troop that want out and closer to home or wny or wherever. Therefore u will take their spot and they can move out into someone elses spot closer home and so on.

FUCCO
07-01-2007, 02:26 PM
academic average and staff opinions will determine how gets what for fto placement. I graduated there were 12 of us from troop a. Myself and 5 others got to fto in troop a and the rest were sent to e and d troop. They only had 6 available fto's in a. IF there were 12 available fto's then all would have went. The 6 of us that went to a were the highest in academic and so on.

NYSPGreg
07-01-2007, 10:28 PM
F YES
K YES
L HAS A WAIT 1-3 YEARS
NYC - no uniform bci only therefore no

how about the uniformed troopers at the javits center?

OTVFD18
07-01-2007, 10:41 PM
Does anyone ever FTO on the Thruway (Troop T) or are Troopers just moved there?

NYSP61
07-01-2007, 10:46 PM
In the experience of the NYS Troopers on this forum, what are the approx. wait times for transfers back to the troops? I was told to get back to A Troop is about 2 years from first assignment. Is this accurate?

What about E Troop, B, etc.?

Also, what can a candidate do to best prepare for the written exam?

Thanks!

FUCCO
07-01-2007, 10:53 PM
javits center is a special detail like the capital detail.

FUCCO
07-01-2007, 10:54 PM
there is no fto ing on the tway. After a year on the job if u want tway u put in a memo for the troop and zone of the tway.

FUCCO
07-01-2007, 10:59 PM
troop transfer wait is approx the following time frame from graduation:

A1-3 yrs
b no wait
c no wait
d no wait- 1 yr
e 1-2 yrs
f no wait
g 1-3 yrs
k no wait
l1-3 yrs

these are approx. transfers are based on senority and how many they take. You can put in for Troop A and be 50 on the list. Well if they take 5-10 people every transfer and transfers are every 10 months (if they have consitent classes) u will wat 2-4 yrs. Also u can constantly be bumped on the list if someone senior to u puts in for it.

OTVFD18
07-02-2007, 08:57 AM
there is no fto ing on the tway. After a year on the job if u want tway u put in a memo for the troop and zone of the tway.

That's what I thought, thanks FUCCO.

troop transfer wait is approx the following time frame from graduation:

A1-3 yrs
b no wait
c no wait
d no wait- 1 yr
e 1-2 yrs
f no wait
g 1-3 yrs
k no wait
l1-3 yrs

these are approx. transfers are based on senority and how many they take. You can put in for Troop A and be 50 on the list. Well if they take 5-10 people every transfer and transfers are every 10 months (if they have consitent classes) u will wat 2-4 yrs. Also u can constantly be bumped on the list if someone senior to u puts in for it.

I think this is something all of us persepective recruits wanted to see. Thanks again.

SlowDownThere
07-02-2007, 11:20 AM
In the experience of the NYS Troopers on this forum, what are the approx. wait times for transfers back to the troops? I was told to get back to A Troop is about 2 years from first assignment. Is this accurate?

What about E Troop, B, etc.?

Also, what can a candidate do to best prepare for the written exam?

Thanks!

The last class to graduate had 4 people get Troop E right out of FTO. That is very unusual, however, It's been years and years, maybe decades, since that has happened. And I wouldn't count on it again. Also, once you get to Troop E, you can count on being in the southerntier for a while. Not everyone, of course, but most start in the south and have to wait for an opening in the north.

FUCCO's waits times seem right on the mark too.

Not much you can do to prepare. you don;t have to know the law or procedures. I would do lots of reading (novels, newspapers, etc). People that read well seem to do well on tests generally.

John2008
07-02-2007, 12:33 PM
The last class to graduate had 4 people get Troop E right out of FTO. That is very unusual, however, It's been years and years, maybe decades, since that has happened. And I wouldn't count on it again. Also, once you get to Troop E, you can count on being in the southerntier for a while. Not everyone, of course, but most start in the south and have to wait for an opening in the north.

FUCCO's waits times seem right on the mark too.

Not much you can do to prepare. you don;t have to know the law or procedures. I would do lots of reading (novels, newspapers, etc). People that read well seem to do well on tests generally.


Yea this trooper from Troop L told me the same thing, I asked what are my chances of getting Troop L out of the academy and he said very slim, but If I can get troop F or K like you guys are saying I'll be happy because those areas are only a 2hour-3hour drive from home.

John2008
07-02-2007, 07:03 PM
After you graduate from the academy and complete and pass your probation period which is 10weeks if I remember correctly how long before you get assigned your own patrol car and area???? Also I can't never find any information on this one, what type of weapons do you guys(troopers) get to carry on duty??? and do NYS trooper get to carry anything else in the car just incase like a shotgun or anything(I know most police officers don't get to use their gun in a 20yr career but I'm just curious)? because I know in some states, state troopers are allowed to carry a shotgun in the car.

GrayState
07-02-2007, 07:23 PM
Probation is a year past graduation. You are on your own after the ten weeks of field training, unless it gets extended. There is usually a few weeks between when you graduate FTO and when you are transferred to your permanent troop (if that is what you are asking).

SlowDownThere
07-02-2007, 07:47 PM
and we are carrying the .45 GAP (Glock Auto Pistol)

John2008
07-02-2007, 08:40 PM
Probation is a year past graduation. You are on your own after the ten weeks of field training, unless it gets extended. There is usually a few weeks between when you graduate and when you are transferred to your permanent troop (if that is what you are asking).

YUP you answer my question,thank you once again GrayState.

John2008
07-02-2007, 08:42 PM
and we are carrying the .45 GAP (Glock Auto Pistol)

Thank you for answering my question,troopers in NY only carry .45 glock, not bad. which model? G37 G38 or G39, Thank you once again for your time. I'm guessing the G37 because is the full size one. or the G21 Auto ???

GrayState
07-02-2007, 09:10 PM
We have the G37. Since we don't have to worry about concealing it at work, no point in not having more rounds when possible :)

The G21 is 45 ACP and not 45 GAP.

John2008
07-02-2007, 10:52 PM
We have the G37. Since we don't have to worry about concealing it at work, no point in not having more rounds when possible :)

The G21 is 45 ACP and not 45 GAP.


oooooooo,thank you very much once again. I hope I get the Job Next year I'll be so happy.

SlowDownThere
07-03-2007, 07:06 PM
Gray State, you should be the recruitment liason, not me.

You're doing a better job at it. Keep em coming.:)

John2008
07-03-2007, 07:11 PM
Gray State, you should be the recruitment liason, not me.

You're doing a better job at it. Keep em coming.:)

both of you are great help, I get more questions answered by you two alone than by me calling the recruiter and trying to get a hold of them lol.

GrayState
07-03-2007, 07:19 PM
I think somebody already snapped up that job here, it would be fun though. People were here to answer questions for me, so it's the least I can do.

I'm telling everyone I know that is interested to take it now or be prepared to wait four years. I have people walk up on a regular basis and ask about the testing and I'm able to answer almost any question about it :)

John2008
07-03-2007, 07:47 PM
I think somebody already snapped up that job here, it would be fun though. People were here to answer questions for me, so it's the least I can do.

I'm telling everyone I know that is interested to take it now or be prepared to wait four years. I have people walk up on a regular basis and ask about the testing and I'm able to answer almost any question about it :)

I'm hoping that not a excessive amount of people take the test lol, and that I scored high on the test in the 95-100 range that way I have a decent chance of getting hire, I'll be disappointed if I end up in the NYPD. I don't want to be 21 with a BA degree making 25,100 for the 1st 6months and than a whooping 32,000 and not being able to pay my college loans. Like all my friends in the NYPD say C.P.R(refering to the letters on the side of their patrol cars) stands for Can't Pay Rent. lol a little joke they have.

GrayState
07-03-2007, 07:57 PM
Well, I wouldn't worry about me making too much of a dent heh. As for the scoring, if they use a similar test to the last one, nobody is going to get a 100. What will make as much of a difference as the number of test takers are retirements and budgets. If you are good enough to get the job, they should make it to your number and then it's all up to your background from there.

I hope the NYPD will get a pay raise. The negative press and the terrible recruitment numbers, and scandals that are probably in the pipeline, will hopefully be enough to change the pay. If you don't pay at least a livable wage to police, you're really asking for trouble.

John2008
07-03-2007, 08:33 PM
Well, I wouldn't worry about me making too much of a dent heh. As for the scoring, if they use a similar test to the last one, nobody is going to get a 100. What will make as much of a difference as the number of test takers are retirements and budgets. If you are good enough to get the job, they should make it to your number and then it's all up to your background from there.

I hope the NYPD will get a pay raise. The negative press and the terrible recruitment numbers, and scandals that are probably in the pipeline, will hopefully be enough to change the pay. If you don't pay at least a livable wage to police, you're really asking for trouble.

oooooo, the test is that hard?, One of my friends was called about 2years ago but he turned it down and went with MTA Police because it was closer to home, so I'm pretty sure a lot of people don't take the test or turn down the offer because of the relocation. me I don't care about having to move to albany or upstate. My background is clean only thing I have is a "failure to signal ticket" that I got last week but I'm fighting it and going to court. I'll have my 4yr degree by my 21st BDAY and I speak English and Spanish fluently. and I'm in pretty good shape never done drugs or got into any kind of trouble :cool:, so if I get a chance after the written test I'm pretty sure I'll get the job hopefully.

GrayState
07-04-2007, 01:08 AM
I don't want to get all side tracked here... but here goes.
If you aren't guilty of the failure to signal ticket, by all means take it to court and argue your case. If you are guilty, taking it to court might look worse than just paying the fine because you aren't taking responsibility for your actions.

John2008
07-04-2007, 01:30 AM
I don't want to get all side tracked here... but here goes.
If you aren't guilty of the failure to signal ticket, by all means take it to court and argue your case. If you are guilty, taking it to court might look worse than just paying the fine because you aren't taking responsibility for your actions.

I have another question, LOL, You guys have your own central dispatch or every troop has its own dispatch, or do you just use the county dispatch how does that work? if you can please explain that to me. I think you have the scanners and you can listen in on the local police too?.

Thank you very much GrayState you have been very helpful.

regarding the Ticket, eh I don't know I did signal I didn't do anything wrong, It was by NYSUP, I might just plea guilty to it or try to barging it down to a parking violation of the same value as the failure to signal ticket which is $
150. My whole thing is. that how could have he seen me, 1.I was going down hill with 3other cars and he wasn't any where near us or above the hill coming down with us 2.It was the day we had the thunderstorm I had this big SUV with its fog lights on behind me that were driving me crazy so I decided to change lanes so I can get rid of the guys fog lights 3.I signal before I change the lane looked at my mirror,turn my head to check my blind spot changed the lane and turned the turn signal right off as soon as I changed lanes. I look at my mirror again it was just My car and the other 3cars coming down. About 15seconds later he comes down the hill on the car and I'm already at least 1/2mile away from the spot where I change the lane and he pulled me over and said that he didn't see my signal come on. I think he was just bored because there arent that many people that take summer classes to try to grad early. My cousin that is SCPD highway patrol says to plea not guilty and fight it in court. but W/e is nothing that serious.

SlowDownThere
07-04-2007, 02:52 PM
I have another question, LOL, You guys have your own central dispatch or every troop has its own dispatch, or do you just use the county dispatch how does that work? if you can please explain that to me. I think you have the scanners and you can listen in on the local police too?.



We are dispatched in a variety of ways, depending on where you are.

Every Troop has a communication section with dispatch capabilities. However, how much it is used for routine police calls varies from Troop to Troop, and from County to County.

We activily participate in county-wide systems where they exist. In some places, we provide the bulk of dispatching services ourselves.

It's hard to say, other than to say we have a hybrid system.

John2008
07-04-2007, 04:16 PM
We are dispatched in a variety of ways, depending on where you are.

Every Troop has a communication section with dispatch capabilities. However, how much it is used for routine police calls varies from Troop to Troop, and from County to County.

We activily participate in county-wide systems where they exist. In some places, we provide the bulk of dispatching services ourselves.

It's hard to say, other than to say we have a hybrid system.

Interesting, Thank you very much :)

danperez
07-04-2007, 11:40 PM
How much is the additional location compensation for New York City? (NYSP)

John2008
07-05-2007, 06:46 PM
SO I've been reading about this move over law that says that when you see an officer on a traffic stop you need to move over one lane away from him or her or slow down while passing near him or her something like that, Does NY has that law????

OTVFD18
07-05-2007, 11:07 PM
Question to the Troopers out there....when you were in the academy what did you do on the weekends? Does everyone go home? Do some guys share an apartment on the weekends only? Hotel rooms? I know this is kind of counting my chickens right now but I was just wondering what you guys all did. Thanks.

SlowDownThere
07-06-2007, 08:52 AM
Question to the Troopers out there....when you were in the academy what did you do on the weekends? Does everyone go home? Do some guys share an apartment on the weekends only? Hotel rooms? I know this is kind of counting my chickens right now but I was just wondering what you guys all did. Thanks.

Almost everyone went home every weekend.

I know a few of the guys that were from far away, that would stay in Albany (at a motel) for the weekend once in a while. It was usually because they felt they needed the extra study time, or family would come stay with them and make a weekend of it.

OTVFD18
07-06-2007, 09:08 AM
Almost everyone went home every weekend.

I know a few of the guys that were from far away, that would stay in Albany (at a motel) for the weekend once in a while. It was usually because they felt they needed the extra study time, or family would come stay with them and make a weekend of it.

Thanks SDT. I figured that was the norm but I wanted to know for sure. I have family in Amsterdam and Lake George if I ever want to stay since the drive home is 4 hours. But, after a week like that, I'll probably want to come home:p

SlowDownThere
07-06-2007, 09:14 AM
delete post - doubled.

SlowDownThere
07-06-2007, 09:14 AM
How much is the additional location compensation for New York City? (NYSP)

Approximately 8k for for NYC, Westchester, Rockland

Approximately 9k for Nassau, Suffolk (Long Island)

GrayPatriot
07-06-2007, 01:32 PM
Thanks SDT. I figured that was the norm but I wanted to know for sure. I have family in Amsterdam and Lake George if I ever want to stay since the drive home is 4 hours. But, after a week like that, I'll probably want to come home:p

You will want to go home. Even the people who lived past Buffalo went home. They wouldn't get home until Saturday morning and they would leave again around noon on Sunday. The only time people stayed, like SDT stated, was before an exam a few people would rent a hotel room and study in groups.

OTVFD18
07-06-2007, 02:28 PM
You will want to go home. Even the people who lived past Buffalo went home. They wouldn't get home until Saturday morning and they would leave again around noon on Sunday. The only time people stayed, like SDT stated, was before an exam a few people would rent a hotel room and study in groups.

Thanks GrayPatriot.

NYSP61
07-07-2007, 01:48 PM
I just wanted to echo the comments of John2008 to all the NYS Troopers on here for your encouragement and advice to all of us that someday soon want to wear the gray and stetson.

Thank you again for "being here" for us. Just another example of the level that you guys (NYS Troopers) operate at, on and off duty.

Keep it up, we all appreciate it!

John2008
07-07-2007, 01:52 PM
I just wanted to echo the comments of John2008 to all the NYS Troopers on here for your encouragement and advice to all of us that someday soon want to wear the gray and stetson.

Thank you again for "being here" for us. Just another example of the level that you guys (NYS Troopers) operate at, on and off duty.

Keep it up, we all appreciate it!

:cool: thank you to Slowdownthere and GrayState both of you have been very helpful.

FUTURETPR
07-07-2007, 02:01 PM
I "third" that, thanks SDT, Graystate, and Graypatriot for being our online "recruiters"

OTVFD18
07-07-2007, 02:34 PM
I "third" that, thanks SDT, Graystate, and Graypatriot for being our online "recruiters"

I 4th it.

FUCCO
07-07-2007, 02:48 PM
as per pba website it looks like collapsable batons are on their way!!


I wanted to give my thoughts on some recent announcements by Division regarding member safety. The announcement that Division was purchasing 3,500 collapsible batons was something the PBA has been communicating with Division with for quite a while, in fact since the Bennett administration. Superintendent Preston Felton should be commended to listening to the PBA’s and members’ communications on this potentially life and death issue, and he properly made the decision to purchase these much needed and long overdue weapons. These batons will fill a crucial gap in the force continuum available on our members’ gun belts and it is quite welcome and appreciated.

SlowDownThere
07-07-2007, 03:02 PM
These batons will fill a crucial gap in the force continuum available on our members’ gun belts and it is quite welcome and appreciated.

I agree. This is a welcome delevopment indeed.

I'm looking forward to this new tool and training that will come with it.

GrayState
07-07-2007, 03:15 PM
Article in the Post Standard on Indian Tax Enforcement:
http://www.syracuse.com/poststandard/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-11/1183712567241600.xml&coll=1

FUCCO
07-07-2007, 03:20 PM
i am assuming the batons/ training will be given out at the fall shoot. I would like to see it sooner. How difficult could the training be.... this is how u open it..... this is how u close it..... now use it they same as the wooden baton.

dtany
07-13-2007, 05:11 PM
I haven't read all the posts as of yet, but I wanted to say a quick hello...
I am taking the NYSP exam in Jan.
Where I work, I had the opportunity to meet and get to know a few Investigators(we all work in the same facility) and I was able to find out that NYSP are alot more than "highway patrol" I am mainly from NYC and we don't really see state police other than on highways, so I guess that's where the assumptions come from...
So again...Hi... I'll probably have questions as well, but I'll read the posts here first

nyc2235
07-13-2007, 05:26 PM
"When i started we did not have the computers"


what!!! I thought MDT's were always around! lol.

dtany
07-14-2007, 01:26 PM
Ok I have a question, what do the medical and psychologial exams consist of?
Also, is there a way to prepare for the exam, or is the exam based on common knowledge/common sense?
Regarding tattoos, I have one on my upper arm, a long sleeve would cover it easily, a short sleeve may show a portion of it... how much of an issue is that?
Could I just opt to wear long sleeves all year round?
Thanks

SlowDownThere
07-14-2007, 02:51 PM
Regarding tattoos, I have one on my upper arm, a long sleeve would cover it easily, a short sleeve may show a portion of it... how much of an issue is that?
Could I just opt to wear long sleeves all year round?
Thanks

http://www.nytrooper.com/tattoo_policy.cfm

The tattoo policy is described in the link above. Basically, you can have no tattoos visible in the summer uniform (short sleeve shirt). And no, you are not allowed to wear long sleeves all year round. You are permitted to take the test with the tattoo, however. If you do well, you will have to decide to either have that portion visible removed, or be no longer considered for hiring.

SlowDownThere
07-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Ok I have a question, what do the medical and psychologial exams consist of?
Also, is there a way to prepare for the exam, or is the exam based on common knowledge/common sense?


I'll let one of the newer guys answer the part about the medical/psychological exam. As far as the written entrance exam, it's common knowledge/common sense. Reading comprehension is a big part. If you are a good reader you will probably do well.

You are not expected to know the law or police procedures, and you are not tested on those things. If you are a good test-taker, you will do well on this one too.

Look at the link in my signature line. It will probably answer most of your questions. PM me for any question it doesn't answer.

Good luck!

dtany
07-14-2007, 07:39 PM
http://www.nytrooper.com/tattoo_policy.cfm

The tattoo policy is described in the link above. Basically, you can have no tattoos visible in the summer uniform (short sleeve shirt). And no, you are not allowed to wear long sleeves all year round. You are permitted to take the test with the tattoo, however. If you do well, you will have to decide to either have that portion visible removed, or be no longer considered for hiring.

Hi Slowdownthere...
Thanks for your response...
Yeah I navigated most of the website, but it wasn't clear if one MUST wear a short sleeve in the summer...
I assume you are a SP? How "short" are the sleeves relative to your arm?




I'll let one of the newer guys answer the part about the medical/psychological exam. As far as the written entrance exam, it's common knowledge/common sense. Reading comprehension is a big part. If you are a good reader you will probably do well.

You are not expected to know the law or police procedures, and you are not tested on those things. If you are a good test-taker, you will do well on this one too.

Look at the link in my signature line. It will probably answer most of your questions. PM me for any question it doesn't answer.

Good luck!

Based on my assumptions and what your reply states I feel I will do well.
I am a good test taker and I do well with reading comprehension and analytical thinking...
When I was around 19 I took a test with Bell Atlantic (now known as Verizon) and I qualified for every position available. For other reasons it didn't work out.
I appreciate your time & response :cool:
thanks

SlowDownThere
07-17-2007, 03:38 PM
Hi Slowdownthere...
Thanks for your response...
Yeah I navigated most of the website, but it wasn't clear if one MUST wear a short sleeve in the summer...
I assume you are a SP? How "short" are the sleeves relative to your arm?



Yes, I'm with the SP. The summer uniform short-sleeve shirt is approx. 3 or 4 inches above the elbow when standing with arms drapped to the side. Below the middle of the bicep.

In each Troop, the Troop Commander decides when we switch from long sleeve to short sleeve, or vice-versa. Everyone in that troop has to switch on that day.

John2008
07-17-2007, 05:27 PM
Yes, I'm with the SP. The summer uniform short-sleeve shirt is approx. 3 or 4 inches above the elbow when standing with arms drapped to the side. Below the middle of the bicep.

In each Troop, the Troop Commander decides when we switch from long sleeve to short sleeve, or vice-versa. Everyone in that troop has to switch on that day.

mm so if the troop commander wanted to he or she could make you wear long sleeve's until the end of July????? (Just felt like asking a dumb question)

SlowDownThere
07-17-2007, 05:38 PM
mm so if the troop commander wanted to he or she could make you wear long sleeve's until the end of July????? (Just felt like asking a dumb question)

He's not called Commander for nothing.

Yes, if he wanted to, he could.

John2008
07-17-2007, 05:45 PM
He's not called Commander for nothing.

Yes, if he wanted to, he could.

oooooooooo, thats cool, so SDT I was reading on of your post in another forum and I just wanted to say LOL@the guy that use to call you rookie and after you became his boss he stopped. I'm guessing your a SGT,LT???.

Meng I can't wait until I start the NYSP academy and graduate, about a year left of waiting by the time I start but that's only if I get the score I want on the test in Jan. :-)

SlowDownThere
07-17-2007, 10:18 PM
oooooooooo, thats cool, so SDT I was reading on of your post in another forum and I just wanted to say LOL@the guy that use to call you rookie and after you became his boss he stopped. I'm guessing your a SGT,LT???.



Yes I'm a sergeant. It's on my profile too.

John2008
07-17-2007, 11:29 PM
Yes I'm a sergeant. It's on my profile too.

ooo that's wonderful, sorry sir I didn't look, I have a question, if you can answer it honestly it would be helpful :-), I'm in the process of finishing my BA degree in criminology and I went after my BA degree because when I graduated HS I was only 17 and now I’m 20 and have a semester left so I figure I had time which I do and I also went after my BA degree for the soul propose that it would help me when I go and try to move up to the rank of sergeant, does that help or nope it won't do anything for me????

I realized while getting my BA degree that I actually like school, so I was also thinking after I get off from probation with NYSP(when and if I get the job) go back to school and get my J.D. in contract drafting that way after I retire from NYSP or if I get hurt and I’m unable to return to the job I would have a back up plan.

dtany
07-18-2007, 10:43 AM
Yes, I'm with the SP. The summer uniform short-sleeve shirt is approx. 3 or 4 inches above the elbow when standing with arms drapped to the side. Below the middle of the bicep.

In each Troop, the Troop Commander decides when we switch from long sleeve to short sleeve, or vice-versa. Everyone in that troop has to switch on that day.

Good to know...
Thanks!

SlowDownThere
07-18-2007, 02:43 PM
... I also went after my BA degree for the soul propose that it would help me when I go and try to move up to the rank of sergeant, does that help or nope it won't do anything for me????

I realized while getting my BA degree that I actually like school, so I was also thinking after I get off from probation with NYSP(when and if I get the job) go back to school and get my J.D. in contract drafting that way after I retire from NYSP or if I get hurt and I’m unable to return to the job I would have a back up plan.

Having a BA degree won't help you per se. But being in school longer generally makes you a better test taker.

Going to Law School will be difficult, especially unless and until you get a permanent station near that law school. Even then, you will be working different shifts all the time. It will be difficult, but probably not impossible.

GrayState
07-18-2007, 08:08 PM
I would get most or all of the J.D. done before starting... unless maybe you can work your way into a regular 8 hour schedule early or don't plan on getting it for a long time. It would be nearly impossible with 12 hour days that rotate between day and night and switch workdays every week, along with the possibility of being recalled anytime.

SlowDownThere
07-18-2007, 08:55 PM
So this kid shows up at the station with a notice of correction. I see he has on some sort of LE union T shirt, and I ask him about it. He says it's his Dad's T-shirt, but he's currently testing for NYPD.

So I talked him into taking our test too. :)

Did you recruit anyone today?:D

John2008
07-18-2007, 09:19 PM
Having a BA degree won't help you per se. But being in school longer generally makes you a better test taker.

Going to Law School will be difficult, especially unless and until you get a permanent station near that law school. Even then, you will be working different shifts all the time. It will be difficult, but probably not impossible.

I would get most or all of the J.D. done before starting... unless maybe you can work your way into a regular 8 hour schedule early or don't plan on getting it for a long time. It would be nearly impossible with 12 hour days that rotate between day and night and switch workdays every week, along with the possibility of being recalled anytime.

Yea I was thinking that, Being a trooper or officer is my first career choice so I would put the law degree on hold until I know I could do it, I could always take classes online because a lot of schools offer classes online but if I can't I can't but I can't wait any longer to get on the job :-) I've been waiting to join NYSP since I was 15 but I missed the 2003 test because I was too young :-(

John2008
07-18-2007, 09:20 PM
So this kid shows up at the station with a notice of correction. I see he has on some sort of LE union T shirt, and I ask him about it. He says it's his Dad's T-shirt, but he's currently testing for NYPD.

So I talked him into taking our test too. :)

Did you recruit anyone today?:D

damn another person I have to score higher than on the test and PAT and test in the academy. *kick rocks*

LOL now I realize what my cousin met when he told me "when you're trying to get the job you want and everyone else that is trying to get the same job as you is your enemy, if they get a spot in the academy that means you might not get yours and if you get your spot that means that they might not get their spot."

GrayState
07-18-2007, 09:26 PM
I gave out one of my referral cards last week. Someone asked me about the exam today, but he was 1 year too old. I told him to look for some local/county exams though.

I guess I'll have to start writing more correctables again, even though I could use a bit of court time. Nobody takes my tickets to court :(


So this kid shows up at the station with a notice of correction. I see he has on some sort of LE union T shirt, and I ask him about it. He says it's his Dad's T-shirt, but he's currently testing for NYPD.

So I talked him into taking our test too. :)

Did you recruit anyone today?:D

OTVFD18
07-19-2007, 12:26 AM
I gave out one of my referral cards last week.

What are the referral cards? I've heard about them and been promised a few but I don't even know what they are:D

TOACD
07-19-2007, 02:23 AM
I've asked this question of people before, but thought I would pose it here.

Of everyone who takes the written exam, approximately what percentage ends up on the road? That is, honestly, how difficult is it to get hired?

John2008
07-19-2007, 08:26 AM
I've asked this question of people before, but thought I would pose it here.

Of everyone who takes the written exam, approximately what percentage ends up on the road? That is, honestly, how difficult is it to get hired?

mmm I don't know the answer to that question 100%, but I know if you get a score of 85-100 you have a good chance of getting called for further processing than everything else goes by your PAT test,background check,medical and so on and than you just gotta last for those 6months of hell without dropping out or failing anything :-)

FUTURETPR
07-19-2007, 05:08 PM
damn another person I have to score higher than on the test and PAT and test in the academy. *kick rocks*

LOL now I realize what my cousin met when he told me "when you're trying to get the job you want and everyone else that is trying to get the same job as you is your enemy, if they get a spot in the academy that means you might not get yours and if you get your spot that means that they might not get their spot."


John,

A little competition never hurt anyone ;)

I can't wait any longer to get on the job :-) I've been waiting to join NYSP since I was 15 but I missed the 2003 test because I was too young :-(

Me too brother, me too. I'm so glad I got to join as an explorer until I was 21 it helped with the wait.

John2008
07-19-2007, 05:15 PM
John,

A little competition never hurt anyone ;)



Me too brother, me too. I'm so glad I got to join as an explorer until I was 21 it helped with the wait.

I don't think we have a explorer program for NYSP here downstate on LI because I never seen anything about it,:-(, A little competition hurts people lol it hurts the person that doesnt get the job because I got it :-), how you been prkp havent seen you on here in a while?

GrayState
07-19-2007, 07:54 PM
What are the referral cards? I've heard about them and been promised a few but I don't even know what they are:D

They aren't anything that special. Just give them to people who might want to take the test and they have our name and a bit of information on them. They don't get you any extra points on the exam or anything.

OTVFD18
07-20-2007, 12:15 AM
hey don't get you any extra points on the exam or anything.

One could only hope:D Thanks for the answer GrayState.

Trooper4985
07-20-2007, 01:50 AM
...I could use a bit of court time. Nobody takes my tickets to court :(

Find a workzone and write 1180F... make sure you tell people about the double fine and 2 workzone speeds = no license for 60 days... you're sure to get a couple of trials a month. :D

FUTURETPR
07-20-2007, 02:53 PM
I don't think we have a explorer program for NYSP here downstate on LI because I never seen anything about it,:-(, A little competition hurts people lol it hurts the person that doesnt get the job because I got it :-), how you been prkp havent seen you on here in a while?

I've been good, I have been busy with work and my BS. I like to view everything but I rarely post because I like to give good info. Which reminds me I want to respond to your PM when I get a chance. I have been going through the process of NYSP Communications Specialist also and my BI has almost completed my background so I can't wait. I'll get my foot in the door and go from there. It's a stressful job but it can't be any more stress than my job or the job of a trooper.

SlowDownThere
07-20-2007, 04:11 PM
I've asked this question of people before, but thought I would pose it here.

Of everyone who takes the written exam, approximately what percentage ends up on the road? That is, honestly, how difficult is it to get hired?

It's probably a very small percentage, because so many people take the exam.
I would expect 20k to 25k people to take the exam this winter. If we have 2 classes a year, with 200 in each class, that's 400/year for maybe 4 years.

1600 hires out of 25,000 applicants is a low percentage. This is not meant to discourage you. Lot's of people turn the job down for a variety of reasons. Lot's of peole get DQ'd for a variety of reasons. A lot of people never even try to complete the process.

But, if you see the process through to the end, your chances improve dramatically. Our current list is was established from a 2003 test. And we are down to approx. 10,000 on that list, and still hiring off of it. So if you stay the course, your chances are good.

John2008
07-20-2007, 05:05 PM
It's probably a very small percentage, because so many people take the exam.
I would expect 20k to 25k people to take the exam this winter. If we have 2 classes a year, with 200 in each class, that's 400/year for maybe 4 years.

1600 hires out of 25,000 applicants is a low percentage. This is not meant to discourage you. Lot's of people turn the job down for a variety of reasons. Lot's of peole get DQ'd for a variety of reasons. A lot of people never even try to complete the process.

But, if you see the process through to the end, your chances improve dramatically. Our current list is was established from a 2003 test. And we are down to approx. 10,000 on that list, and still hiring off of it. So if you stay the course, your chances are good.

yup just like SDT said, a lot of people turn it down I know 3ppl that turned it down and I look at them like this 0_o because they didn't want to go upstate, some people don't pass the PAT because they think is easy and so on, me I'm hoping to get 85-100 on the test and hoping they call me and be in the academy by this time next year(would be the best graduation present and best bday present I could get) I've already started training for the PAT, I jog 3miles everyday at a decent pace to improve my stamina and in a couple of months I'll start timing my 1.5run, do push ups and sit up everyday.

John2008
07-20-2007, 06:23 PM
Can anyone give me any tips or Excersises I can do to get ready for the PAT next year and the academy for example Excersises they make u do while in the academy? Any help will be greatly appreciated it.

So far I
Run 3miles 4days a week
50 push ups after the run
50 sit ups after the run
25 squad thrust after the run
mountain climbers


Anything else I should be doing?

Trooper4985
07-20-2007, 10:21 PM
Can anyone give me any tips or Excersises I can do to get ready for the PAT next year and the academy for example Excersises they make u do while in the academy? Any help will be greatly appreciated it.

So far I
Run 3miles 4days a week
50 push ups after the run
50 sit ups after the run
25 squad thrust after the run
mountain climbers


Anything else I should be doing?

You should do the calisthenics before the run. Throw another 25 pushups in there and you more or less have the basic morning PT that some of us did... don't know if they still do the same PT but I suspect they do.

SlowDownThere
07-21-2007, 12:51 PM
Anything else I should be doing?

And mix it up. Don't do the same thing every day/week.

Sometimes, do sprints instead of a long run.

Sometimes, lift weights instead of pushups.

Sometimes, play soccer/tennis/basketball instead of training.

Mix it up. You will be better rounded and will have more fun.

Dieter122
08-01-2007, 10:47 PM
Well I just signed up for the NYSP test which is on Feb 9th next year.

I was hoping Albany PD would have openings but..no open calls are posted for them.

Seems like all the local police around me are already at capacity..though my old college town of Oneonta might have a few openings coming up in the next month or two....

In any case, NYSP is #1 is my real goal. :D

nycop
08-05-2007, 03:47 PM
Well I just signed up for the NYSP test which is on Feb 9th next year.

I was hoping Albany PD would have openings but..no open calls are posted for them.

Seems like all the local police around me are already at capacity..though my old college town of Oneonta might have a few openings coming up in the next month or two....

In any case, NYSP is #1 is my real goal. :D



Oneonta PD hasen't been full capacity in a long time. Guys leave because other near-by agencys pay better.

Trooper4985
08-31-2007, 07:42 AM
first off will NYSP give me any credit (and i dont mean pay wise or in any financial way, just in terms of I have more experience than someone who's never been otj) for out of state law enforcement experience?

secondly, I have heard that NYSP has in the past been willing to accommodate persons traveling from a distance (for example 1,000 miles) and allowed them to take the poly, PAT, psych, etc all in one trip. is that something I need to get the ball rolling on now, or is that more of a thing I set up if I were to score high enough on the exam and get called?

You will not get anything for being prior LE... you might actually have problems... trying to do things the "Blueberry PD" way and the NYSP way. No offense meant about working elsewhere but a lot of guys in my class had a tough time with getting away from old habbits and learning to do things a new way.

As for proscessing all in one day... I have no idea.

2grit
08-31-2007, 12:12 PM
Hey guys don't know if anyone is aware of this but if you have a tatoo that will be visible when you are in uniform it is an automatic disqualification from the NYSP. I took the last test they gave a few years back and I got called last year to go up for the PAT and written Psych. Although I passed the PAT and was administered the written psych, since I have a tatoo on my right forearm that would be visible I was eliminated from the process. They told me it had nothing to do with what the content was of the tatoo, just simply because it was there and it violated there policy. There were quite a few people who got bounced because of this, and a lot with military tatoos. This was the only agency where I ever had a problem with this. Anyways figured i'd pass this info, because I don't think they tell you in the exam announcement. Good luck guys.

John2008
08-31-2007, 12:49 PM
Hey guys don't know if anyone is aware of this but if you have a tatoo that will be visible when you are in uniform it is an automatic disqualification from the NYSP. I took the last test they gave a few years back and I got called last year to go up for the PAT and written Psych. Although I passed the PAT and was administered the written psych, since I have a tatoo on my right forearm that would be visible I was eliminated from the process. They told me it had nothing to do with what the content was of the tatoo, just simply because it was there and it violated there policy. There were quite a few people who got bounced because of this, and a lot with military tatoos. This was the only agency where I ever had a problem with this. Anyways figured i'd pass this info, because I don't think they tell you in the exam announcement. Good luck guys.

"In order to preserve a professional appearance and promote confidence in us from the public which we serve, the New York State Police has adopted an official tattoo and body piercing policy.

Must comply with New York State Police policy which requires all members to present a neat and professional appearance at all times.

Tattoos, brands, body piercings and other body art shall not be visible while a member is in uniform or other business attire.

The uniform includes a short sleeve shirt open at the front of the neck. In addition to visibility, some tattoos or brands may have symbolic meanings that are inconsistent with the values of the New York State Police.

Candidates will be screened during processing at which time a determination will be made as to whether an applicant is in violation of the policy. If a candidate is found to be in violation then that person will have the option of having the tattoo or the visible portion thereof, removed at their own expense. If a candidate expresses a willingness to have this done, then their application will be placed on hold until the process is completed.

While on duty, Members are allowed to wear a watch and a wedding band."


meaning if you have a tatto on your neck,forearm and so on get it reomoved or cover it up