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DerekFiveO
05-25-2007, 09:48 PM
Very odd question. But in this current day in age PMC's are everywhere. Does anyone know of any that hire out of college? I seriously doubt they do just kinda curious.

Bearcat357
05-25-2007, 10:27 PM
Very odd question. But in this current day in age PMC's are everywhere. Does anyone know of any that hire out of college? I seriously doubt they do just kinda curious.

Negitive.....all the PMCs I have worked for (3....and maybe 4 soon) required you to bring something to the table (ie LE, Military, Military Spec Ops, SWAT, EP, etc...)....as they are not going to train you at all. They will help you get your skills back in line (like shooting and doing protective details they want they want to run them) but they are not going to teach you....at all.....

You MIGHT be able to find a low level job in the IZ doing paperwork and try to work your way up.......but that would be a very slim chance.....

RyanRJ2047
05-25-2007, 11:22 PM
Experience is the key here. Some PMC such as Blackwater offer outstanding training courses not only to its employees but also to other Military and Police units, however, none of these courses are designed as entry level for the operational environment with no prior experience. In order to get into this kind of work you have to have prior training and operational experience in one capacity or another such as LE or the military. Even with this experience sometimes the selection process for these positions can be tough so it is best you have as much on the resume as possible. The reason why these companies do not want to hire a potential applicant straight out of College with no field experience is for liability reasons. At least if you have been in a job where you have had to deal with extreme stress and life or death situations you have at least established the fact that you are capable of operating in and handling those types of situations.

A lot of the time these types of positions are in high threat areas where seemingly normal situations can turn chaotic with tragic results in the blink of an eye. The same could be said for some individuals in the military depending upon their job, and also PO in LE. There is a much stronger support system within these organizations to lead, guide, and show the way to the inexperienced than what exists in PMC, they don’t need rookies they need people who have been there, done that, and know what they are doing. By the way I’m not saying that because someone has no experience in these types of jobs doesn’t mean that they couldn’t do it, there is also plenty of people in the military I know and LE that are not cut out for it either but that is just the way things work as far as this goes.

jnhdrac
05-26-2007, 10:52 PM
I have not looked into the job market recently, but if you are looking for a position carrying a gun, I suspect not. I suspect you could find a variety of support positions that may hire you, such as drivers, food service, etc.

Bearcat357
05-27-2007, 02:23 AM
I have not looked into the job market recently, but if you are looking for a position carrying a gun, I suspect not. I suspect you could find a variety of support positions that may hire you, such as drivers, food service, etc.

No offense.....but my *** isn't going over there unless I can protect myself......but that's just me......

chsnash
06-03-2007, 02:23 PM
College is almost a non-factor in the sandbox as a PSS or PMC. Like the other posts here you have to come in with certain skill sets, because the job is not for entry level operators. Right now, the major companies are Blackwater, Triple Canopy, SOC SMG and a handful of others. I am currently in Iraq with a PMC, and the competition is keen. If you have just graduated college, I would recommend going into the military combat arms, or find a police department and get some SWAT experience. Even if you do somehow get hired without the required skill sets, you will immediately be identified and dealt with. If you want to work in Iraq, look at U.S. AID, or IRMO. These organizations are probably more suited for your background. Good luck.

RGreen454ss
06-04-2007, 03:45 AM
Whats the best way to get your foot in the door to one of these companys? I submited a resume to DynCorp a while back but didn't hear back from them.

Bearcat357
06-04-2007, 03:54 AM
Whats the best way to get your foot in the door to one of these companys? I submited a resume to DynCorp a while back but didn't hear back from them.

Military....or SWAT if you're a civilian LEO......

Going to Blackwater Academy, Armour Group, H&K, etc.....classes might help.....depending on what else you have to offer them.......

But, they tend to want more than just the training....they want folks that have actually done the work.....and only way to get that is via the US Military or as a LEO on a SWAT team......

And just being an MP, Security Forces, MA, etc.....won't cut it unless you have a good skill (PSD, MPI, and K-9 come to mind)...... They are looking for guys that have advanced infantry skills, breeching skills, and stuff like that.....and that have been over to Iraq a time or two......or any other highspeed deployment.....

I know one kid that had 4 years as a Army MP. He didn't cut it for stuff in Iraq, but he is currently working for Blackwater as a Force Protection Specialist in Japan. 120K a year....and all expenses paid.

He's looking into moving up to other stuff over in Iraq because he is proving himself now...... which is something to think about. Taking a lower paying Force Protection job with a big name company....doing a year as that....then as you work for them, work on making/building connections.....then when your contract is up......try moving to another job.....

RGreen454ss
06-04-2007, 05:34 AM
The job I was looking at was Security in Qatar just trying to get in the door..I was in Bahrain for 6 months and did a few PSD missions as an MP but not really anything high speed...Thank you for the reply

Bearcat357
06-04-2007, 05:46 AM
The job I was looking at was Security in Qatar just trying to get in the door..I was in Bahrain for 6 months and did a few PSD missions as an MP but not really anything high speed...Thank you for the reply

The security job in Qatar is a goatscrew. I have known a few that have been there....and didn't last long due to management issues (stressing serious management issues)..... You are better off that you didn't get that position in all honesty.......

If you are wanting to go over.....start hitting up the big names PMCs and emailing your resume to them. Remember not to embellish anything you did....as you will get called out on it if you fail to meet standards that you should meet..... Worst they can tell you is no....

Perhaps you can be like my friend and find a force protection gig with one of the better companies....prove yourself.....then start working your way up to another gig within the company.....

Good luck...