Co-Op City Police

[ChrisF202]

Are Co-Op City Police real police? Some of my friends that are NYPD officers claim that they are security guards who call themselves police yet I did some research and found that they have a ESU, detectives, etc.

What gives? Im thinking that like the SCPD, the NYPD thinks they are the only agency in the land and refuses to admit that anyone else has police officer status?

[ChrisF202]

Thanks POCHEDDER, would you happen to know why they have/need detectives? I find it odd that they have them instead of just having the NYPD handle investigations.

[Jayc6018]

They are a private police force and have peace officer status.

But the different between the word police and peace officer is relatively the samething. No real difference.

Co-op city police jurisdiction is only in co-op city and no where else.

[Letmypeoplego]

26 years ago I was a co-op city patrolman. It was then called Co-op City Security. I was a special patrolman, which is/was a NYC administrative law peace officer on duty only. I had a full carry permit for which I was indemnified on duty only. There was a supervisor who had a fully carry custodial permit. His permit had the serial numbers of all the weapons Co-op City owned and were the only weapons allowed to be carried by permitted officers. They have a hell of a lot more equipment then when I was there and make their officers jump through more hoops, but fundamentally not much has changed.

[Jayc6018]

Jay with all due respect and no intention whatsoever twords you I would like to just clear up thet police and peace officer status is very diffrent indeed. Police officer status comes with many more powers and duties. Thats why there training is between the 700 and 800 hour range. Peace officers are in the 40 hour range. Police have more power where they can do any kind of complaint they want including traffic and misdemeanors, wheather they are on duty or not. They have the ability to persue on the report of another for example and dont neccissarily have to be a witness to a crime in order to investigate one. Peace officers can process thier own arrests but can only act if WITNESS to a felony. They are obviously granted full carry of thier firearm, Its just that their authority and training is alot less than that of a police officer.

No prob, for the most part I know peace officers are no sworn officers like police and your right police officers carry way more responsibility than a peace officer.

[Letmypeoplego]

It is not necessary for a peace officer to witness a felony, he must witness a misdemeanor or violation. Section 140.25 Paragraph 3 sub (b)

[ColtM4]

Co-Op City P/O's are not peace officers as described in the CPL. they are special patrolmen and have law enforcement powers (limited) only when on duty. Off duty they are civilians. They can only carry firearms via an NYPD pistol permit, not on their shield and ID.

[Dinosaur32]

Please truly research your answers before you post.There are some differences between Police Officers and Peace Officers.....the chief being the ability to execute warrants (and even there there are exceptions for Court Officers and bench warrants and Probation Officers and probation warrants). The State of New York grants Peace Officer status (with its concomitant arrest powers) to a wide and varied list of titles. Many of these titles may only exercise their arrest power while engaged in their special duties (i.e., weights and markets investigators checking scales, etc, firefighters at a fire handling crowd control and getting vehicles moved). Other titles such as Correction Officer or Court Officer are empowered to enforce all the laws of the State. These officers have the same duties and obligations as Police Officers only limited by the area or facility they are assigned to.

Peace Officers are limited by their "Special Duties" (which laws are to enforced by the title, see examples above) in making arrests. CPL Section 140 and its subsections delineates the powers of Police Officers and Peace Officers to make warrantless arrests. A close study will show that there are small differences between the two groups.

[DOAcop38]

interesting- like the discussions on the TBTA officers and the NYSUPD officers-here in Ca. every police officer /Deputy sheriff/highway patrol officer is a "peace" officer-the only delineation is between municipal/county sheriff/dist Atty Inv 830.1 PC-highest status,state peace officer,830.2 PC(CHP,Univ.of Calif system,Cal.State univ.system,State park Ranger,State fish and Game warden) ,then State invs,830.3 (Lotto ,insurance,state fire marshal,dept of health) everybody else,from 830.31 to 830.8(federal peaceofficers operating in CA) is considered a "district or specialized Peace officer",ala School PD,Community college,Airports,ports,Railroad,transit,municipal or county park Rangers,National guardsmen,municipal/county/district water mgm't,even down to priv. college or medical facility ,probation and correction officers.While there are some limits- mainly the district Peace officers are held on what their primary jurisdiction is, ANY CA. peace officer can make an arrest, warrantless or with warrant ,anywhere in the State of Calif as to a violation of the Ca. penal code,or subsequent state statutes,and pursue a suspect anywhere within the state.also,although there is a min. for training to be called a peace officer - usually 80-120 hrs under the PC 832,many follow the State POST guidelines and the min has gone up to 800+ hrs before you can even go in the field.It seems like alot of NY states limits on P/O authority go hand in hand with firearms limits-maybe its a fear of liability or infringement on citizens rights? although we have jurisdictional issues here sometimes,it is a "you saw it,you handle it" kind of policy in CA for many PDs and L.E.Depts- only rarely do other depts hand off crimes,and thats when they handle things as a "courtesy" to that primary agency in which the jursidiction falls.If the current system works for NY police officers/peace officers,fine- but it seems silly to joust about who has more this or that if the job is getting done........

[DOAcop38]

Are Co-Op City Police real police? Some of my friends that are NYPD officers claim that they are security guards who call themselves police yet I did some research and found that they have a ESU, detectives, etc.

What gives? Im thinking that like the SCPD, the NYPD thinks they are the only agency in the land and refuses to admit that anyone else has police officer status?

question- what do you want to do?do you want to be a police officer or do you want a job thats in or performs a L.E. function? if you want to be a Police officer,apply for the agencies you named,but if you want to be in a job that has a L.E. function and you think its BEST suited fro you,apply for someone like this Co-Op PD.no matter what someone sez or thinks,it up to you as the individual to be happy-find a job you feel fits you and gives you what you need -$$ ,benefits,sense of purpose.I know of a poster here who joined a dept called the DEC (DEP?) police,but was getting ragged on for supposedly NOT being the "Real police"-he posted his pay and training and benefits ,and to me- it sounded like he found his "ticket",while a bunch of folks were getting blown out of the "real cop" process and had no job.........

[ChrisF202]

question- what do you want to do?do you want to be a police officer or do you want a job thats in or performs a L.E. function? if you want to be a Police officer,apply for the agencies you named,but if you want to be in a job that has a L.E. function and you think its BEST suited fro you,apply for someone like this Co-Op PD.no matter what someone sez or thinks,it up to you as the individual to be happy-find a job you feel fits you and gives you what you need -$$ ,benefits,sense of purpose.I know of a poster here who joined a dept called the DEC (DEP?) police,but was getting ragged on for supposedly NOT being the "Real police"-he posted his pay and training and benefits ,and to me- it sounded like he found his "ticket",while a bunch of folks were getting blown out of the "real cop" process and had no job.........
You probably mean the NYC Dept. of Environmental Protection Police ... they patrol the reservoirs in the Catskills.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYC_DEP_Police

[Dinosaur32]

Warrantless arrest by peace officer acting according to his special duties:
CPL 140.25 Par 1 sub a an offense committed in his presence (i.e,. violation, etc.) sub b any crime (felony or misdemeanor) in his presence or not.

See 140.10 (arrest by police officer) 1 sub a& b....same limitations, except that all police officers have the same special duties..

[Jayc6018]

Well like one stated the NYPD is not the only game in town, what I don't like is a private agency has to go through the NYPD to get special patrolman status instead of going through the state. Thats b.s

In NYC you have the Sheriffs dept, Corrections, state police, state dep police, nyc dep police and nys courts.

NYPD is not the only game in town, are they the largest force? yes but they don't our rank any other agency. They aren't the only REAL police as some on nypd would say

[ChrisF202]

Well like one stated the NYPD is not the only game in town, what I don't like is a private agency has to go through the NYPD to get special patrolman status instead of going through the state. Thats b.s

In NYC you have the Sheriffs dept, Corrections, state police, state dep police, nyc dep police and nys courts.

NYPD is not the only game in town, are they the largest force? yes but they don't our rank any other agency. They aren't the only REAL police as some on nypd would say
Same story out in Suffolk ... the County PD trys to worm their way into everything and act as if they are the supreme cops in the land. I recall several instances where SCPD officers have physically assaulted state troopers, Suffolk County deputy sheriffs, etc because <gasp> they had the guts to make a traffic stop or respond to a call on SCPD turf. I mean how dare they step on the toes of the all mighty supreme SCPD :rolleyes:

SCPD isent even a real county police force ... they only patrol half the county. Within the police district patrolled by the SCPD their are several villages which have their own PD (such as Amityville, Northport, Ocean Beach, etc) who have specialized services provided by the SCPD and the towns and other villages have quasi police forces (such as Patchogue Village Constables). The East End has town and village police forces and the Suffolk County Sheriff's Office backs them up as needed.

[Letmypeoplego]

Actually by City charter, the NYPD is the only police dept actually rsponsible
for the maintaining of law and order in the city of New York. This is why all matters eventually pass under their purview. Other agencys are "niche" departments. It doesn't make them lesser anything, they have special concerns. Transit, Housing, Sanitation, Hospital, Courts, all have their place and their duties. It is what it is. The NYPD is the 800 lb gorilla of law enforcement, just as I'm sure the LAPD, Philly and Chicago Pds are in their own right.

[VACOP1]

PO-

Those quotes are not true. As a peace officer in NYS ( was a former CO)
my training was longer then 40 hours. In fact i had 13 weeks. I was allowed to make arrestsoff-duty for crimes committed in my presence. And I was allowed to carry off duty.

[Dinosaur32]

POCheddar............I'm not sure what you are reading, so I will respond with this: I have been a Court Officer for 33 years 10 months and 16 days (45 days left until I pull the pin). I have been carrying my personally owned firearm for all this time. I have been involved in both on duty and off dutay arrests and not all were in a courthouse. our current Academy lasts just about as long as the DJCS standard for Police officers. My geographical area of employment is the entire State (larger by far than the NYPD's). It sounds like you are reading about the title of Special Patrolman.

ChrisF202....each county/city in NYSD has one chief law enforcement agency. The agency might be the Sheriff or if the city is large enough the PD. The FBI also has something to do with this as they are the gathering agency for all crime stats and they demand that info from one locale comes from one agency. So if a Court Officer makes an arrest it gets processed through NYPD for statistical purposes.

I have had NYPD ESU and other of their service areas respond on my call. That is their function. My function as a Court Officer is to protect the Courts (an ever expanding function). We call on the NYPD for investigatory, bomb squad and ESU assistance.

[ColtM4]

Again with no disrespect but from what I Know and have looked into I find this. Please explain with a little more detail if you can because I really would like to know as much as I can on this topic.

Training:
NYS requires the following for basic training:
Police Officer: 510 hours + field training; must do BEFORE working the job!
Full Time Peace Officer: 35 hours and can do anytime within first 12 months of employment
Part Time Peace Officer: 10 hours and can do anytime within first 12 months of employment.
See: http://criminaljustice.state.ny.us/ops/docs/index.htm#bcpomin

Weapons:
Police: On and off-duty
Peace: Can carry on duty-if they attend a 44 hours training course. The agency must own the weapon, and have a locker for it where it must be stored when the peace officers is not working. No off-duty carry or powers after work. They are just Joe Schmoe citizen.


Duties:
Police: Full powers on/off duty. Can arrest for felonies, misdemeanors, etc.... under the power of the badge. Though a police offier has a geographical work area (town/city they work for), they can enforce all laws anywhere in the state!
Peace: can only do such ON-duty. Off-duty, any action taken is done so as a private citizen. On-duty they are limited to their geographical area they work in. So a Peace Officer working at a local college, only has power on the college campus. He can't go to adjacent streets and enforce any laws.

Wrong on some of this stuff.

Example: a NYC Correction Officer can arrest for any felony seen or unseen in NYC and any misdemeanor seen within the city. Outside the city can arrest for felony seen only.

The above applies whether you are on or off duty. Peace Officers dont lose their status when they go off duty.

What you are describing are special patrolmen which have authority only on duty. Off duty they are private citizens.

[aikido kid]

People, PLEASE only answer a question if you KNOW the answer to the question.

Just because someone on here says that something is someway doesn't mean it's so.

All "peace officers" in NYS are different and have different powers and authorities.

Example: A BNIA Fire Fighter may be a peace officer, just as a Syracuse University DPS officer is, but the two have very different powers and authorities. One fights fires the other probably fights crime and the like.

ALL peace officers are listed in the NYS CPL and you can go there and read all about them.



and p.s. there are "peace officers" who do carry off duty (with out a permit) and their weapon is not locked up in a locker when not working. I don't know where that guy got that from...

[ColtM4]

People, PLEASE only answer a question if you KNOW the answer to the question.

Just because someone on here says that something is someway doesn't mean it's so.

All "peace officers" in NYS are different and have different powers and authorities.

Example: A BNIA Fire Fighter may be a peace officer, just as a Syracuse University DPS officer is, but the two have very different powers and authorities. One fights fires the other probably fights crime and the like.

ALL peace officers are listed in the NYS CPL and you can go there and read all about them.



and p.s. there are "peace officers" who do carry off duty (with out a permit) and their weapon is not locked up in a locker when not working. I don't know where that guy got that from...

Yeah like correction . parole , probation and court officers. They carry firearms by virtue of their LE status (shield & ID) wereas special patrolmen and some peace officer titles either are not authorized to carry or carry only through a permit issued by their PD

[RomanArts]

Colt you Forgot to mention a couple of peace officer agencies that carry off duty as well without a permit ( your shield and your department ID is your permit) People once again please think before you post if youi have no idea about certain things just dont post you are going to confuse the other person. If you dont know the answer or not sure of the answer dont post at all or specify that its your own opinion!!!!!

[RomanArts]

BY the way this is my opinion I dont believe parole officers carry and also I thought that Correction Officers got heir police status already

[ChrisF202]

BY the way this is my opinion I dont believe parole officers carry and also I thought that Correction Officers got heir police status already
Why do they need police officer status? If they want police officer status then take the deputy sheriff test or push the sheriff to abolish the title of CO and make everyone a deputy like they do in most counties where they have deputy - jail and deputy - police like in the LASD.

[Dinosaur32]

RomanArts.....NYS Parole Officers do carry on their credentials. NYC and NYS Correction Officers are Peace Officers, not Police Officers.

Chris.....really think about what you are going to write before you do so. If you are looking for a successful career in law enforcement, you are going to have to watch what you say. There are numerous reasons why unions look for a change in status.

[ChrisF202]

RomanArts.....NYS Parole Officers do carry on their credentials. NYC and NYS Correction Officers are Peace Officers, not Police Officers.

Chris.....really think about what you are going to write before you do so. If you are looking for a successful career in law enforcement, you are going to have to watch what you say. There are numerous reasons why unions look for a change in status.
All im saying is that the COs have their responsibilities which is the operation of the county jail and the safety and security of visitors, staff and inmates. and at the Suffolk County Jail, the deputy sheriff's man all perimeter guard posts and the gate and handle prisoner transport.

If they want to do police work then they can take the next Suffolk County deputy sheriff or Suffolk County Police officer exam.

[Dinosaur32]

Chris....The point is your 19, not on the job and spouting off about LEOs and their jobs. Not smart. If you do ever start a law enforcement career that attitude may come back to bite you. You will someday be a newbie and no vet likes to hear from a smart mouth newbie.

[ColtM4]

Colt you Forgot to mention a couple of peace officer agencies that carry off duty as well without a permit ( your shield and your department ID is your permit) People once again please think before you post if youi have no idea about certain things just dont post you are going to confuse the other person. If you dont know the answer or not sure of the answer dont post at all or specify that its your own opinion!!!!!

Dude I just gave examples , instead of telling people what to say why dont you put out some good info.

Not everyone on this board is a wanna be keyboard commando. I did this for 20 years and was very , very involved in dept. policy , legal issues etc...

[ColtM4]

BY the way this is my opinion I dont believe parole officers carry and also I thought that Correction Officers got heir police status already


Now I'm gonna use your own words against you. Dont put out info that you dont know. New York City Correction Officers are NOT Police Officers. Dont believe the rumors.

[ColtM4]

All im saying is that the COs have their responsibilities which is the operation of the county jail and the safety and security of visitors, staff and inmates. and at the Suffolk County Jail, the deputy sheriff's man all perimeter guard posts and the gate and handle prisoner transport.

If they want to do police work then they can take the next Suffolk County deputy sheriff or Suffolk County Police officer exam.

Chris , let me tell you a little about what NYC Correction Officers have done and continue to do.

Every single day and night 400+ C.O.'s transport thousands of inmates all around the city , state and country via vans , buses and airplanes.

Every day and night hundreds of NYC C.O.'s transport hundreds of inmates to various hospitals throughout NYC.

We have a dedicated 300 man unit on Rikers who patrol the entire island and act as the police force.

We have over 250 officers assigned to ESU and who every single day and night transport dozens of high risk inmates throughout the city and states armed to the teeth with full auto weapons.

On 9/11 our ENTIRE ESU team deployed and was active in ground zero risking their lives looking for survivors for 6 months.

Our ESU did and continues to be part of the NYC OEM disaster reponse team reacting to airplanes crashes and protecting consulates etc...

Hundreds of other CO's spent weeks in a make shift morgue helping identify victims.

We have full time investigators working with DHS , FBI, Secret Service etc...

I can go on and on. My point is simply that NYC CO's are not like other CO's anywhere and have the most diversivied mission in the title.

No offense but Suffolk Sheriffs Deputies cant touch the depth and variety of missions NYC CO's have.

[RomanArts]

Colt my POST wasn't directed towards you so dont feel special and dont jump to conclussions please, if you were offended I apologize.

[ftdtetr]

peace officer - police officer is almost irrelevant

because which ever one you are you most likely will only use your powers within your GAOE, within your particular scope, the average officer doesnt go looking for or want to be involved in stuff outside their specified job description or work area
(they dont want the headache)

the key is find a job you like corrections, courts, police, sheriff, county pd whatever and enjoy it.
also alot of people take a job based on the pay not jurisdiction or police power, if nyc corrections started getting $125k base that would be the job every wanted instead of nassau, suffolk, and port authority.

[ford123]

Port Authority.....Some officer made 250,000 last year.....

And the sergeant made 270,000....lol.

[ColtM4]

Colt my POST wasn't directed towards you so dont feel special and dont jump to conclussions please, if you were offended I apologize.


No offense taken :)

[ChrisF202]

Port Authority.....Some officer made 250,000 last year.....

And the sergeant made 270,000....lol.
I remember a certain Suffolk County Sheriff's sergeant who made 200k+ TWO YEARS in a row.

Of the county governments top pay earners almost all of them are deputy sheriffs and the few that arent are either SCCC admin, correction officers or SCPD brass.

[Jayc6018]

OH yeah forgot to add Co-op city police starting salary is about 40,000 and their top pay is 65,000. That doesn't include the unlimited overtime they get.

They own nypd in the pay department.

[DPS55]

OH yeah forgot to add Co-op city police starting salary is about 40,000 and their top pay is 65,000. That doesn't include the unlimited overtime they get.

They own nypd in the pay department.
wow are you serious. Thats alot of money for a private agency. How much does NYPD make starting off?

[Jayc6018]

wow are you serious. Thats alot of money for a private agency. How much does NYPD make starting off?

NYPD = $25,100 to start.

Co-op city pd has a force of 300 officers. They hire about 5 to 10 officers a year.

Its very hard to get into, when they give their test the co-op city residents get first preference then the general public.

[ftdtetr]

NYPD = $25,100 to start.

Co-op city pd has a force of 300 officers. They hire about 5 to 10 officers a year.

Its very hard to get into, when they give their test the co-op city residents get first preference then the general public.

If they have 300 people that must include non-officers and people doing admin. I have been to coop city alot and thier police force is not that visible, especially relative to the size of the place,
maybe if on a given day they had 100 officers working ( alotting for sick etc),and 30 per shift maybe 300 is realistic - just guestimates on my part

Do they hire part timers?

[ColtM4]

OH yeah forgot to add Co-op city police starting salary is about 40,000 and their top pay is 65,000. That doesn't include the unlimited overtime they get.

They own nypd in the pay department.

Not really. Keep in mind the NYPD is way behind on their contracts. Once they settle their contract their top BASE pay will be over 65K , and that does;nt count night differential , holiday pay and uniform allowance.

Also NYPD offers unlimited sick leave ,27 vacation days, a 20 year pension with lifetime health benefits and several types of line of duty 3/4 disability pensions.

I predict that because of the bad press and heat on city hall that NYPD officers are going to top out at around $75K within the next yr or two.

Also I know a few Co-Op city officers who left and went to correction and PD jsut for the benefits

[Jayc6018]

If they have 300 people that must include non-officers and people doing admin. I have been to coop city alot and thier police force is not that visible, especially relative to the size of the place,
maybe if on a given day they had 100 officers working ( alotting for sick etc),and 30 per shift maybe 300 is realistic - just guestimates on my part

Do they hire part timers?

Co-op city consist of 5 sections. Its pretty big

[Jayc6018]

Not really. Keep in mind the NYPD is way behind on their contracts. Once they settle their contract their top BASE pay will be over 65K , and that does;nt count night differential , holiday pay and uniform allowance.

Also NYPD offers unlimited sick leave ,27 vacation days, a 20 year pension with lifetime health benefits and several types of line of duty 3/4 disability pensions.

I predict that because of the bad press and heat on city hall that NYPD officers are going to top out at around $75K within the next yr or two.

Also I know a few Co-Op city officers who left and went to correction and PD jsut for the benefits

Hum thats strange, was this recent? I know a few guys there who literally rape OT. yeah the benefits are left to be desired but the pay in itself is good.

I don't know about PD topping out at 75 anytime soon, honestly especially with the way bloomberg is going. Maybe the next Mayor will approve them new contract but as of now. NYPD has a tough time retaining officers through the Academy. Thats where most of them quit

but if and when the top pay does go up the NYPD will get alot more retention and their BI process will be more stringent

[Hazard989]

Does anyone know how to get hired by co op city or if they are or will be hiring
?

[ftdtetr]

Co-op city consist of 5 sections. Its pretty big

It is a decent size but section 5 is the only real seperate section, I do see COOP city police when I go thier but not as much as you would think.
THey gave a test last spring(06) no idea when the next one is for the guy who asked.

[carlgotti]

Hey Guys I Live in Co-Op City, They have a Police force of 97 officers, within that they have about 5 Detectives, about 15 officers in the ESU unit. Which has the same truck as the NYPD and preforms similar duties. About 7 Marked patrol units with CCPD on the side. Some Marked scooters and some unmarked cars. About 75% of the dept. carries a weapon. They have done allot of hiring so about 30 of their officers are pretty new and do not carry. They have high turn around, and hire officers quick. It is a good test to take the list goes fast. Also The Salary quoted was a touch high. They Start in the 30's and top out at around 50 or so. They do have allot of overtime. And they rank like NYPD From Cheif to Captain Lou Sarg Detective and officer.

They carry themselfs for the most part pretty professional and look like NYPD guys. THe NYPD Precient for CO-OP is the 45. A really slow preceint so I would say CO op cops see a little more action. Sometimes You Laugh though when 2 grade school kids are fighting and Co op city cops are driving on the sidewalks with the lights as if its a 10-13.

[DPS55]

Hey Guys I Live in Co-Op City, They have a Police force of 97 officers, within that they have about 5 Detectives, about 15 officers in the ESU unit. Which has the same truck as the NYPD and preforms simular duties. About 7 Marked patrol units with CCPD on the side. Some Marked scooters and some unmarked cars. About 75% of the dept. carries a weapon. They have done allot of hiring so about 30 of their officers are pretty new and do not carry. They have high turn around, and hire officers quick. It is a good test to take the list goes fast. Also The Salary quoted was a touch high. They Start in the 30's and top out at around 50 or so. They do have allot of overtime. And they rank like NYPD From Cheif to Captain Lou Sarg Detective and officer.

They carry themselfs for the most part pretty professional and look like NYPD guys. THe NYPD Precient for CO-OP is the 45. A really slow preceint so I would say CO op cops see a little more action. Sometimes You Laugh though when 2 grade school kids are fighting and Co op city cops are driving on the sidewalks with the lights as if its a 10-13.
Im not from New York so can someone explain to me what the CoOp is.

[Jayc6018]

Im not from New York so can someone explain to me what the CoOp is.

Co-op = Cooperative apartments. Co-op city or basically a really huge complex of apartments divided up into 5 sections.

[DPS55]

Co-op = Cooperative apartments. Co-op city or basically a really huge complex of apartments divided up into 5 sections.
ok thanks for the info

[ftdtetr]

Hey Guys I Live in Co-Op City, They have a Police force of 97 officers, within that they have about 5 Detectives, about 15 officers in the ESU unit. Which has the same truck as the NYPD and preforms similar duties. About 7 Marked patrol units with CCPD on the side. Some Marked scooters and some unmarked cars. About 75% of the dept. carries a weapon. They have done allot of hiring so about 30 of their officers are pretty new and do not carry. They have high turn around, and hire officers quick. It is a good test to take the list goes fast. Also The Salary quoted was a touch high. They Start in the 30's and top out at around 50 or so. They do have allot of overtime. And they rank like NYPD From Cheif to Captain Lou Sarg Detective and officer.
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I am VERY familiar with Coop like I said b4 300 cops sounded like alot of officers for them to not be more visible than they are. THanks for the info.

[bxhousing]

DOAcop38 said it right on the first page. Apply for jobs that you think you'd be happy in. I worked in Co-Op City for several years and loved it. The money was decent, benefits were good, retirement sucks. The job is what it is... you deal with street crime and you provide physcal security for the huge complex of residential and commercial buildings there. Years ago NYPD cops used to call city housing cops "security" (before the merge). Who cares... true, CCPD cops are not sworn under CPL 1.20 which defines a police officer, but they are sworn (CPL2.10), do carry firearms, and do handle all kinds of criminal and non-criminal incidents. I don't know that you'd want to make a career out of it which is sad because it has the potential to be a great career, but if you're looking to break into law enforcement this is a good place to start.

Like anywhere else, you can go there and be a do nothing, collect your check on Thursday, and go home. You can also go there, get good with the penal law, be active, and do the work of a cop. If you have a choice between NYPD and Co-Op take NYPD despite the pay, but I would never look down on an active Co-Op City cop... many of them are doing as much police work if not more than a lot of "real cops" out there.

[Khadafi310]

Are they currently hiring? what is the starting pay

[kablaam]

Not really. Keep in mind the NYPD is way behind on their contracts. Once they settle their contract their top BASE pay will be over 65K , and that does;nt count night differential , holiday pay and uniform allowance.

Also NYPD offers unlimited sick leave ,27 vacation days, a 20 year pension with lifetime health benefits and several types of line of duty 3/4 disability pensions.

I predict that because of the bad press and heat on city hall that NYPD officers are going to top out at around $75K within the next yr or two.

Also I know a few Co-Op city officers who left and went to correction and PD jsut for the benefits

While they deserve 6 figure salaries for what they do, the most recent Sergeants Contract bumped base SGT's pay to 72,000(starting). So unless the city bumps that up as well(which they will def. not do) I can't see an Officer making more than a Sergeant base. The last few years, SGT's starting salary was 2000 more than top base officer pay. So you can figure 70k tops for an officer.

Not saying it's right, just reality.

[kablaam]

DOAcop38 said it right on the first page. Apply for jobs that you think you'd be happy in. I worked in Co-Op City for several years and loved it. The money was decent, benefits were good, retirement sucks. The job is what it is... you deal with street crime and you provide physcal security for the huge complex of residential and commercial buildings there. Years ago NYPD cops used to call city housing cops "security" (before the merge). Who cares... true, CCPD cops are not sworn under CPL 1.20 which defines a police officer, but they are sworn (CPL2.10), do carry firearms, and do handle all kinds of criminal and non-criminal incidents. I don't know that you'd want to make a career out of it which is sad because it has the potential to be a great career, but if you're looking to break into law enforcement this is a good place to start.

Like anywhere else, you can go there and be a do nothing, collect your check on Thursday, and go home. You can also go there, get good with the penal law, be active, and do the work of a cop. If you have a choice between NYPD and Co-Op take NYPD despite the pay, but I would never look down on an active Co-Op City cop... many of them are doing as much police work if not more than a lot of "real cops" out there.


If you are rolling around with a mope that is trying to take your firearm, police officer, peace officer or mr. security officer, you will be glad to see him/her. We are all on the same side.

Be safe out there.

[ChrisF202]

Very true, if I was an officer that would be exactly how I feel. Unfortunately the larger agencies dont feel that way and feel that they should be the only "real cops" in that particular area.

Ex. NYPD and NYC, SCPD and Suffolk County, etc.

A few years ago, the village constables in Patchogue, NYstarted to make traffic stops (well within their right as the village code includes the NYS V&T laws) and the Suffolk County Police blew a gasket and threated to withdraw their firearms permits mainly because they were afraid that if they let one village see how cheap and effective it was to have their own force then the rest of the police district might <gasp how dare they!> question the need for the overpaid, overpirced and nowhere to be found county police department.

[Dinosaur32]

Chris.....Patchogue is in the Suffolk County Police District. Therefore, "policing" is under the jurisdiction of the SCPD. I'm quite sure that the dispute went beyond traffic stops. There cannot be two agencies exercising general police authority in the same area. When the SCPD was formed, the poce departments in the five western towns were disbanded and their officers absorbed into the SCPD. The western towns ceded their poling authority to the county. The downs do not have the authority to put any officers on patrol for general polcing purposes. If an incorporated village wishes to form their own PD there is an involved process. The village cannot simply send out the code enforcement officers as cops.

[Khadafi310]

thought this was about co-op city police.

[SOON2BCO]

I am gettint ready to apply for CO-OP City Public Safety. I hear that they make a great salary. Rumor has it that they start at $42,000, Full Benifits through the Corporation, Paid Vacation,and ETC.The only thing i dont like is that they dont have Peace Officer Status on and off duty. They are only Special Patrolmen. Which means they are Peace Officers on duty and Civilians off duty. However as i said they pay a good buck. I am also intrested in Roosevelt Island Department of Public Safety, and Hunts Point Department of Public Safety.Anybody know anything about those agencies?

[DAL]

Rather amusing.
Years ago, California tried to standardize and simply peace officer definitions. Within a few years, the legislature once again started adding specialized classifications with minor variations, and putting them in a bunch of different codes, so that the status and powers of anything but the most common officers are very difficult to figure out. Of course, no one really cares until a problem arises.

[NYCAPO]

I am gettint ready to apply for CO-OP City Public Safety. I hear that they make a great salary. Rumor has it that they start at $42,000, Full Benifits through the Corporation, Paid Vacation,and ETC.The only thing i dont like is that they dont have Peace Officer Status on and off duty. They are only Special Patrolmen. Which means they are Peace Officers on duty and Civilians off duty. However as i said they pay a good buck. I am also intrested in Roosevelt Island Department of Public Safety, and Hunts Point Department of Public Safety.Anybody know anything about those agencies?

This topic has a lot of info on Coop City:
http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82894&highlight=coop+city

You can submit an application for Roosevelt Island, and Hunts Point put out a Notice of Employment a few weeks ago. Good luck.

Roosevelt Island:
http://www.rioc.com/jobs.htm

Hunts Point:
http://www.policeone.com/careers/1861022-Hunts-Point-Public-Safety-Officer-Hunts-Point-Dept-of-Public-Safety-Bronx-NY/

[NYCTNT]

Well the whole peace officer thing is in limbo.. they might be special patrolmen while on duty, but they still took a standardized peace officer course and examination from DCJS and passed it, therefor allowing them to be peace officers while not working as well.

[PAPD 8-2]

Are Co-Op City Police real police? Some of my friends that are NYPD officers claim that they are security guards who call themselves police yet I did some research and found that they have a ESU, detectives, etc.

What gives? Im thinking that like the SCPD, the NYPD thinks they are the only agency in the land and refuses to admit that anyone else has police officer status?

Just look in the NYS CPL and it will tell you specifically what classify each and every police agecy in the state of NY and their jurisdiction relating to their geographical area of employment.

Co op city police are special patrolmen in the city of NY. Once they are off duty they have to lock up their firearms at work

[orlandofed5-0]

I love the fact people cant look at the previous date and start a new thread rather than dig a thread up from 2 years ago..

Also Hunts Point put up a job announcement on officer.com

[PAPD 8-2]

I love the fact people cant look at the previous date and start a new thread rather than dig a thread up from 2 years ago..

Also Hunts Point put up a job announcement on officer.com

Wow he actually used the search feature like its a bad thing lol

[orlandofed5-0]

Wow he actually used the search feature like its a bad thing lol

Its not bad but when the info is 2 years old, things change. You as well as I know things change in hiring etc..use the search function, refrence the post in a new thread.

[M1garand]

NYS CPL 2.10 and it lists 80 + agencies that employees Peace Officers and specifically talks about which agencies are authorized to carry on their ID/Shield VS Pistol license (NYS Penal code Sec. 400).

For instance, SPCA agents, Parole/Probation (and several others) do not require to have pistol license to carry off duty as park rangers and bay constables of township (exception of Town of OysterBay), county/town fire marshalls, agents of SPCC and so on are required to have pistol license.

I am a NYS registered Peace Officer and my training was done through a local sheriff's department. By the time I was done with all my training (OC Spray, expandable baton, firearms and defensive tactics) it was well over 100 hours.

Police academy tends to be longer as their training covers a lot more areas, such as vehicle operation (Evoc), first aid/cpr training, physical fitness activities and so on.

As for Co-Op City police department, I believe they fall under NYS peace officer status and their firearm status is based on the agency's policy, not the state or the city. This department is very active in making collars and from what I know, they have good working relationship with NYPD.

[M1garand]

Sorry guys, I didn't realize this was an old thread that just resurrected.

[NYCTNT]

No, they fall under peace officer status under the subdivision for special patrolman. Their firearms status hangs in the line of the NYPD who issues them the permits for their firearm status.

[alc31180]

I am gettint ready to apply for CO-OP City Public Safety. I hear that they make a great salary. Rumor has it that they start at $42,000, Full Benifits through the Corporation, Paid Vacation,and ETC.The only thing i dont like is that they dont have Peace Officer Status on and off duty. They are only Special Patrolmen. Which means they are Peace Officers on duty and Civilians off duty. However as i said they pay a good buck. I am also intrested in Roosevelt Island Department of Public Safety, and Hunts Point Department of Public Safety.Anybody know anything about those agencies?

I work for Roosevelt Island. Things are changing at the department for the better.