NYC Auxiliary Police Members

[Bkbadboy75]

I was wondering how may NYC Auxiliary Police Officers/Supervisors utilize this website? If so what command you're volunteering out of?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I'm enrolled in the program , My command is the 120 precinct. And furthermore I cannot wait to get my shield, and be instated as an APO.

[Dread_Bk]

Just Got Shielded In Mid February, volunteering out of the 77th Precinct,

[Bkbadboy75]

Hey 75 Pct here A/Deputy Inspector with 15 years on.

[JohnDoe61]

10th week in the class. Cant wait to get on already. In the 61 pct. of Brooklyn.

[JohnDoe61]

btw I heard rumors of everyone getting vests from the city...any truth to this?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

yes there is truth by the end of the year we should all be vested.

[JohnDoe61]

damn passover havent had a class is three weeks im bummed.....

[JohnDoe61]

Took the test last night. I passed. Next week we start out self defense training.

[Zero4749]

Can someone explain how the exams are like?

[sheonb]

I am also an NYPD Auxiliary. I work out of Transit. I have been doing it for 1 year now and I really enjoy it. For me it provides a change of pace from my office HR job and I feel that I can really help the community.

This is from the Auxiliary Wiki site:

Auxiliary Police Officers must pass a 16-week Auxiliary Police Basic training course which is classified as a Part Time Peace Officer training required by the New York State Municipal Police Training Council. This class meets once a week for 16 weeks. This training includes penal law, radio use, unarmed self defense, first aid, use of a police baton and arrest procedures. A written and physical exam in given at the end of training. Upon the completion of the basic training course probationary Auxiliary Police officers are issued their shield and police identification card along with their nightstick and initial uniform. They are classified as Part-Time Peace Officers by the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services-Municipal Police Training Council and are registered as peace officers in the NYS DCJS registry of peace officers.

All Auxiliary Police Officers are required by New York State to pass an annual refresher course in the use of force with the nightstick, arrest procedures, and Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO).

[Zero4749]

What is the written exam about?

Is it about what you learned during the training?

Can you study for the exam?

Also are there any official NYPD Auxiliary website that explains when the classes starts or when do you need to go to get the finger printed.

[sheonb]

What is the written exam about?

Is it about what you learned during the training?

Can you study for the exam?

Also are there any official NYPD Auxiliary website that explains when the classes starts or when do you need to go to get the finger printed.

Yes, the written exam is about material taught during training. You can study for it. You will receive a hard copy of all materials taught in training.

There is no official NYPD website that explains when classes start but your best bet is to walk into the precinct or transit district that you would like to volunteer and the desk officer when the Auxiliary coordinator will be in. The Auxiliary coordinator will be in charge of helping you with your paperwork including fingerprints, background checks and advising you when the next class would be.

Auxiliary coordinators are regular NYPD officers or detectives which are assigned as our commanding officer and department liaison.

If interested please visit this site, it has alot of useful information on the NYPD Auxiliary program:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nypd_Auxiliary

[pekkieboyz]

are the aluxiliary police issued a parking card for parking at or around the precinct?

[PJ06]

I am also an NYPD Auxiliary. I work out of Transit. I have been doing it for 1 year now and I really enjoy it. For me it provides a change of pace from my office HR job and I feel that I can really help the community.

This is from the Auxiliary Wiki site:

Auxiliary Police Officers must pass a 16-week Auxiliary Police Basic training course which is classified as a Part Time Peace Officer training required by the New York State Municipal Police Training Council. This class meets once a week for 16 weeks. This training includes penal law, radio use, unarmed self defense, first aid, use of a police baton and arrest procedures. A written and physical exam in given at the end of training. Upon the completion of the basic training course probationary Auxiliary Police officers are issued their shield and police identification card along with their nightstick and initial uniform. They are classified as Part-Time Peace Officers by the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services-Municipal Police Training Council and are registered as peace officers in the NYS DCJS registry of peace officers.

All Auxiliary Police Officers are required by New York State to pass an annual refresher course in the use of force with the nightstick, arrest procedures, and Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO).


Do you have to go through all that if you are a peace officer ?
I'm with NYSDOCS

[sheonb]

Do you have to go through all that if you are a peace officer ?
I'm with NYSDOCS

Yes, you still have to go through all of this even if you are already a full time NY peace officer.

By the way we do have many NYDOCS, NYC Corrections, NYS Court officers and even NY Parole officers doing NYC Auxiliary.

Most commands do not issue Auxiliary Police officers parking permits or placards but they do have ways of identifying Auxiliary personal cars without permits.

[Pekkier]

Thanks for the info, i just don't want to be ticketed when on duty and my car parked right in front or around the precinct

[PJ06]

Yes, you still have to go through all of this even if you are already a full time NY peace officer.

By the way we do have many NYDOCS, NYC Corrections, NYS Court officers and even NY Parole officers doing NYC Auxiliary.


Thanks for the info :)

[Zero4749]

- I've seen an Auxiliary officer showing off his shield off duty but why would he show it off if it doesn't hold any kind of power?


- After the Auxiliary graduation, how much do you have to pay for equipments and for the shoe?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

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- After the Auxiliary graduation, how much do you have to pay for equipments and for the shoe?




After you graduate the training for Aux. (if you could even call it a graduation) You get a uniform voucher to be used at 1 Police Plaza. This covers your long sleeve shirt, 4 Aux patches, long jacket, tie, tie clip, cap , pen holder, baton holder, cap device, baton, whistle, flashlight holder, memo book cover, collar brass, wool patrol pants, and trouser belt.


Other stuff like your short sleeve shirt , duty belt , handcuffs, handcuff case, other patrol pants, shield backing, shield and ID holder, radio holder, flashlight, boots, and putting the patches on. You have to get yourself . Most of this equipment can be bought at 1PP. Hope that helps.

[sheonb]

- I've seen an Auxiliary officer showing off his shield off duty but why would he show it off if it doesn't hold any kind of power?


- After the Auxiliary graduation, how much do you have to pay for equipments and for the shoe?

Let us keep in mind that all Police Departments whether Auxiliary or regular have their fair share of people that do dumb things. The above being one of them.

[Cockney Corner.]

Very interesting thread. So are Aux. officers paid? Receive expenses? What kind of baton do you/they carry? And finally, what's the deal with not being issued body armour? Heck, there are parts of my green and pleasant land where paramedics and bus drivers are issued body armour ...

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Very interesting thread. So are Aux. officers paid? Receive expenses? What kind of baton do you/they carry? And finally, what's the deal with not being issued body armour? Heck, there are parts of my green and pleasant land where paramedics and bus drivers are issued body armour ...



NYPD Auxiliary do not get paid however at the end of the fiscal year they do receive a check which is for uniform maintenance. We carry a wooden baton 24 to 26 inches in length with a leather strap on it. And we are in the process of being issued body armor, my fitting is next month. For the time being the precinct's Aux. unit has an allotted amount of vests that get signed out when the officer signs the 10 sheet during roll call and then get returned and cleaned/disinfected at the end of the tour.( I make sure I disinfect which ever I get before I take it out too)

Any other questions just ask... I know I'm not the only APO answering here lol. Help me out.:p

[Zero4749]

Other stuff like your short sleeve shirt , duty belt , handcuffs, handcuff case, other patrol pants, shield backing, shield and ID holder, radio holder, flashlight, boots, and putting the patches on. You have to get yourself . Most of this equipment can be bought at 1PP. Hope that helps.


Probably might end up spending Around $200-$250

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Your doing fine. Now I have a question I am interested in joining and saw the website and all, it says if your 17 you can join with your parents permission
is there anybody that young there?

In my command we have a kid whos 17 , well now hes 18 but he's very immature I hate going on patrol with him it's like babysitting.

[Pekkier]

In my command we have a kid whos 17 , well now hes 18 but he's very immature I hate going on patrol with him it's like babysitting.

and how old are you?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I sir, am twenty one.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Well I'm very mature for my age (17).
What is it exactly that aux does except help out in traffic and
look for things going on to report?

"We give the impression of omnipresence,"

Taken right out of the manual.

We patrol thats the jist of it , whether its RMP, bike, or foot we patrol. I personally enjoy foot posts I like to be interactive with people around me.

Eyes and ears, eyes and ears thats the saying you'll hear a lot during training, I mean my class they pounded it in our heads because ours went in right after the tragic deaths of those two APOs in Manhattan. You occasionally do details. The first detail I ever went to was the Gay Pride parade, it was an experience for my first detail, I was positioned a block away from the parade route to secure metal barriers and make sure no one crossed them. It was fun, surprisingly a lot of people want to take pictures of you.


I love being an APO.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Awesome. I heard that at riots they use your help too is that true?


I don't believe so. If they were to mobilize us for something like that it'd have to be biiiiggg . The regular pd has the manpower to handle most medium and large scale riots. It's very doubtful that Auxiliary would be activated to be riot police. In the off chance we did get activated it'd probably be to secure certain perimeters, direct traffic, or give instructions to civilians. There is such a slim chance of any aux. officer seeing action on that scale.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Well thats a good thing....

So what's it like?
How often do you volunteer?
Would you recommend it to someone looking into
a career in Law Enforcement?




I personally love it . It's a great feeling. I used to volunteer almost every other night, but then work started to crank up the hours so that cut into my time. Now I make it a point to go at least eight times a month.
I would most definately recommend it for anyone interested in law enforcement, you'd learn somethings that would ultimately tell you if you really want to do this with your life or not, think of it as an optional prerequisite to a career in law enforcement. I mean this might make or break your will to go in to law enforcement.

I went in with two friends of mine because they were gung-ho to join. They dropped like flies, I'm the only one that went throught with it and is still here. I also got the highest grades for everything out of everyone in my class.

[Zero4749]

Neurotoxinx@hot how much did you spent out of your money for your equipments?

[Zero4749]

I think he said already 200-250

I made an assumption on my previous post that I might spend around $200-$250 for equipments, since some are expensive.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

Neurotoxinx@hot how much did you spent out of your money for your equipments?

Out of my own money, $232.48
that took care of my tactical patrol pants, short sleeve shirt, duty belt, cuffs, cuff holder, shield backing, nameplate,flashlight, turtleneck, etc...

[Pekkier]

People who volunteer with the NYC APO don’t do it for show and tell, I got a gun. I most people do it because they want to help and improve the community.

[dapc131]

To the APO's,
1. How are foot, bike and rmp patrols assigned?
2. Also, the wikipedia site mentions specialized units such as transit, highway and patrol support. How difficult is it to get into one of these special units? And how firm is the program with that "5 year" requirement?
3. What is the public's and regular PO's feeling toward APO's? Are they seen as "buffs" or are APO's respected?

[Pekkier]

That's because your mta po DUH lol

I didn't say they do it for show and that's why they should probably be better
help if they were plainclothes so they can see things without anyone wanting to kill them because they think there cops.

Don't forget, APO's are mostly tagged with a PO at night, but in the morning they're mostly loner or paried with another APO.

[sheonb]

I didn't know that. But they don't go to calls so what if the po is called?

In the Transit Bureau we do respond to calls with or without regular Police. As long as the call doesn't involve weapons or suspicious packages and we have an Aux partner we go over the radio and respond to jobs. We also tend to run into alot of situations since we are constantly around the public patrolling a subway station. You do have to be cleared by the Auxiliary coordinator that you are competent to respond to calls.

[NYPD_AUX_43]

Im an APO at the 43rd pct and been there goin on a year now. We definately get to do respond to calls-in fact the regulars like when we do bc they get ova worked-they'll take any lil help they can get. For that we are respected by them. Just like sheonb said as long no weapons are involved ur gd to go. 4 of us APOs usually go out together-neva paired w/a PO.

[Zero4749]

I'm wondering are there even any NYPD Auxiliary forum that anyone has created?

[Zero4749]

I probably might start one up soon. I think there should be a place where Nypd Auxiliaries are able to communicate with each other, give advices and post any updates.

[Zero4749]

I don't know if each precinct starts at the same date but my precinct (72) is starting on FEB.4 I would visit the precinct if it takes a while. I've done the application and finger printing, all I'm waiting is for the phone call for the interview.

[PAC084]

The classes are being done by borough now. Depending on the borough is when your training begins.

[Pekkier]

i'm just wondering why aren't the Apo's issued baton that are expandable instead of the old fashion one?
are they even allowed to carry OC's?

[sheonb]

i'm just wondering why aren't the Apo's issued baton that are expandable instead of the old fashion one?
are they even allowed to carry OC's?

When we lost two Aux brothers in 3/2007 this was something the dept was looking at. Rumors are we are supposed to be getting ASP's and OC's but we all know how rumors are. We are still waiting for the outcome of our revised patrol guide. We shall see....

[Zero4749]

How long does it take to receive the phone call for the interview?

[JohnDoe61]

got my shield tonite....It shouldnt take long...depends what pct. it is and when and how often they have classes.

[Pekkier]

what is the Min hours you have to volunteer for? just to keep your badge?

[sheonb]

I think one night a week.

Here this website should answer many
questions:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/careers/auxiliary_police.shtml

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/careers/NYPD_AuxPoliceOverviewBook.pdf

Currently it is 12.5 hrs per month to keep your shield. I personally do about 50 hrs a month because I enjoy it. If you are promoted to Sgt or above you must do about 20 hrs per month min.

[Zero4749]

what kind of questions will be asked at the interview?

[Pekkier]

I'm sorry but i don't understand how can anyone work under such duress without a sidearm? If you were a APO and a shooting took place less then 20foot of your body what would you do?

The NYPD Chief has got to address this problem.

[Zero4749]

I think that by NYS laws they can be armed since they are also part time peace officers but the NYPD aren't allowing them to carry.

[Zero4749]

Anyone else besides me registered for the 2008 Auxiliary class?

[ItIsWhatItIs73]

now heres a good question if u have an aux sgt on scene and a regular p.o. also on the scene whos in charge

[NYPDtoGrey]

now heres a good question if u have an aux sgt on scene and a regular p.o. also on the scene whos in charge

The NYPD PO is in charge. You could have an Aux. Inspector on scene and the NYPD PO would still be in charge.

[NYSJAILER2008]

i'm registered.... start in about a week
How does one that is already employed go about being trained with AuxNYPD when said person has to work his shift? Do they work around you schedule?

[NYCTNT]

AUX PO's are not part time peace officers nor do they hold peace officer status, unless a city emergency existed then their very small and limited status will be put in effect for traffic duty and the likes only.

[NYSJAILER2008]

the class is one day a week in the evening for a couple of hours....so i guess you just need to keep those hours open.
Thanks for the info

[Zero4749]

i'm registered.... start in about a week

I went to an interview in the Brooklyn South 67th precinct and after the Interview they gave everyone that made it a medical document that needed to be signed by a doctor. Only thing is that they never told us when we have to give it in.

[ahsanzafar8788]

I am so sorry to the guys looking to get in to the auxiliary force this Feb. If I had known that this thread existed I would have posted earlier. Ok the best way to get into the auxiliary force is through the Auxiliary headquarters which is located in the courthouse in queens, I believe its 120-55. Well my precinct wasn't taking any more applicants so I got in touch with the big boss who I believe is a captain in rank, although most of the APO's there were Captains. Once you get there, by the way you need an appointment, you do every single step required that same day, including fingerprinting. Only thing different they do is instead of a regular one on one interview that you might do in a precinct they do a board interview. There will also be a regular police Sgt. there that asks most of the questions. If you pass you get fingerprinted and you are given a medical sheet which has to be given in before Feb. 5. And by the way if you are being told that you cannot apply for the force for this February you are being told a lie. ALL precincts are suppose to take you in as long as you come in to apply before Jan. 30. This is coming from the big boss at the headquarters. Any questions let me know, I will be more than happy to answer them.

[Zero4749]

Thanks for the reply. It was confusing at first since I heard that they changed the way the process was. I applied at the 72nd precinct and they sent all of us to the 67th for the interview and we were confused since they sent us back and forth.

[ahsanzafar8788]

Thanks for the reply. It was confusing at first since I heard that they changed the way the process was. I applied at the 72nd precinct and they sent all of us to the 67th for the interview and we were confused since they sent us back and forth.
Hey if you don't mind me asking, what was the process you went through and how was it step by step. Did they send you to different precincts to work there or just for the interview. thanks.

[Zero4749]

When I applied for Auxiliary at the 72nd precinct I applied and finished the application after they had a meeting where everyone else has been finger printing which was before the holidays. They told me to come back to the 72nd precinct for finger printing after the holidays which was on January 7th.

Once I was done with finger printing they said that I would receive a phone call for the interview. I received the phone call on the 15th of January from a lieutenant from the 72nd precinct saying that I need to go to the 67th precinct for the interview on either the 16th, 17th or 18th of January.

I went to the interview on the 16th and I noticed that a lot of people that applied from the 72nd and nearby precincts were also there for the interview. There were about 5 officials interviewing us individually about the program. Whoever passed the interview has received a medical that a doctor had to fill out saying if we are physically well to perform patrol duties as a APO. And they never mentioned a date when we have to return the medical which some of us were confused if we either have to return the medical to the 67th precinct where we been interviewed or give the medical to the Auxiliary coordinator from the 72nd in which our information is located.

Right now I'm thinking of calling them up tomorrow and ask. But I heard that now we will be trained by academy officials instead of being trained in our own precinct.

[Zero4749]

Does anyone know when the classes starts?

And has anyone received a phone call from the Auxiliary official?

[ahsanzafar8788]

I went to headquarters on Friday to hand in the medical forum. The lady there told me to expect a call this Monday. she said whoever calls me will tell me where and when to report for training. Just in case call the precinct you applied to and ask to speak to the coordinator. He/She will know. Remember to call, you never know if they lose your file or forget to call you, so just call them. Keep me updated with your situation as I will of mine. Anyone else joining Auxiliary?

[Zero4749]

Which precinct did you applied to?

I got tired of calling and no one answered the phone so I just waited all day and I received the phone call tonight. I guess that each borough starts at a different day and different location since the classes are separated.

[ahsanzafar8788]

Zero, the fist time I applied it was in December of 2006 for the january 2007 class. They never called me. Then I applied again In 2007 for the Sept class and that was my fault I had too much work and college at the same time so I opted not to go. So I applied again and they called me to come in December but I couldn't make it since I was a Police Cadet candidate and I was going through the process. When I called them in January they said they weren't accepting any more applicants. So I thought I would just go do auxiliary in another preceinct. So I called headquarters and they said I should be able to do auxiliary in any pct as long as all paperwork is done by the 31st. I did the paperwork at headquarter and handed in the doctors note. They told me someone from the 52 pct should call me on Monday to tell me when and where to report. Zero when they called you what did they tell you? Also for the other guy where did you apply and where are they sending you. Sorry I am using my phone to post so I am unable to go back and check who wrote what.

[Zero4749]

When they called they told me that the class will start on Tuesday the 5th in a basement of a high school by church ave at 7PM

[MikeYonkers69]

SHEONB said that there are many NYC COs, State COs, Parole and court officers involved in the program.... Does NYC AUX respect privacy by not contacting your job since people will be calling you a buff (just my opinion) or if AUX does call your job, Does aux just verify employment Like a bank would?

[GoldBadge]

damn passover

Are you referring to the Jewish holiday of Passover? If so, you've got some nerve saying that about a religious holiday, even though it's likely not YOUR holiday. You're bummed because you can't get your shield? Grow up, or at least use your brain before you post something like that.

[MikeYonkers69]

GOLDBADGE, I think you misread my post, My question is simplie, Does AUX identify themselves when verifying employment? I dont know what you are talking about

[GoldBadge]

GOLDBADGE, I think you misread my post, My question is simplie, Does AUX identify themselves when verifying employment? I dont know what you are talking about

I was talking to JohnDoe61, not you.

I guess my post wasn't too clear. :rolleyes:

[ahsanzafar8788]

I got the call today and the person I spoke to told me to report to Fordham university on February 24 at 7pm. This is for the 52pct auxiliary.

[Zero4749]

I got the call today and the person I spoke to told me to report to Fordham university on February 24 at 7pm. This is for the 52pct auxiliary.

I didn't expect to start on a Sunday. I guess each precinct does it different. I start tomorrow.

[MikeYonkers69]

I always thought auxiliary POs train at the local pct, Are the 52 APOs going to train at Fordham University every week? Or is this a one time orientation thing? Also, Does the 52 Pct still have the AUX Rescue truck? I remember the truck years ago, The 52 Aux POs were very active back in the day.

[ahsanzafar8788]

I always thought auxiliary POs train at the local pct, Are the 52 APOs going to train at Fordham University every week? Or is this a one time orientation thing? Also, Does the 52 Pct still have the AUX Rescue truck? I remember the truck years ago, The 52 Aux POs were very active back in the day.
See the problem is that precincts are low on space, espcially the smaller ones so to conserve space auxiliarys are trained elsewhere. And yes you are right back then auxiliary officers really were active and got involved in many calls/jobs that they shouldn't have because they don't carry a firearm. A lot of Auxiliarys lost there life in the line of duty back then when NYC was dangerous as can be. And they don't have those auxiliary emergency trucks anymore because of that. Auxiliarys aren't suppose to respond to threatning situations. They can only report them.

[ahsanzafar8788]

Any new news? Zero have you gone to training? Anyone?

[ahsanzafar8788]

hey pcs did they tell you how many times you have to go to training. When I received the call the guy told me that they only require us to come once a week. Are you guys allowed to go more times a week or are you given a schedule? If so what is it? Thanks.

[Zero4749]

I already started on Tuesday. They only did introductory about what we are expected to do once we are out and what we going to do during training.
The classes are only once a week.

I've received the Auxiliary Police Basic Training Manual Chapters 1-4. I notice that we need to do very well on the academic part which passing grade would be 70% or above and for the self defense you need to get 80% or higher to pass.

[Zero4749]

There was about 100 people in the class which I was very surprised of. Ch.1-4 suppose to last 4 weeks and during the 4th week we will return the manual and receive another one with more chapters.

The class lasts 16 week. 12th week we get the academic exam and the 16th week we get the unarmed self defense exam. Its weird that your class can last up to 5hrs. Our class starts at 7PM and ends at 10:00 (sometimes 10:30 if they giving anything out) because people need to work in the morning.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I've received the Auxiliary Police Basic Training Manual Chapters 1-4. I notice that we need to do very well on the academic part which passing grade would be 70% or above and for the self defense you need to get 80% or higher to pass.

Ok let me just say the tests are easy as pie. I had the highest scores in my class. Just remember what they tell you during class and you'll do fine.

[Zero4749]

of kind of exam is the academic part? Is it multiple choice?

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

of kind of exam is the academic part? Is it multiple choice?

Yes, 50 questions multiple choice.

[Zero4749]

let me guess.. the exam is easy as long you know the roles and purpose of the Auxiliary program.

[NYCAPO]

Exactly Zero. As long as you pay attention during class, review everything you went over, and actually do the work in class, you will pass that exam with flying colors.

[NYCAPO]

I read this forum and thought I would answer some questions.
First, the reason training went from precincts to a centralized place is NOT because the precincts were running out of space. The reason was b/c each precinct was training its recruits differently, and the dept didnt want that. For example, one command may give their recruits more physical training while another gave its recruits more radio training. The department wants all Auxiliary officers to know the exact same thing as one another. I have copies of the official memo from APS(Auxiliary Headquarters) which I am more than happy to share with Auxiliary Officers. Just send me a Private Message asking me for the link.
Second, Auxiliary officers dont have Peace Officer powers while on routine patrol, but if an emergency occurs, which may be ANY kind of crime, a natural disaster or man made disaster, then they are automatically Peace Officers. That is written into NYS law. Anyone who tells you different is lying.

[Neurotoxinx@hot]

I read this forum and thought I would answer some questions.
First, the reason training went from precincts to a centralized place is NOT because the precincts were running out of space. The reason was b/c each precinct was training its recruits differently, and the dept didnt want that. For example, one command may give their recruits more physical training while another gave its recruits more radio training. The department wants all Auxiliary officers to know the exact same thing as one another. I have copies of the official memo from APS(Auxiliary Headquarters) which I am more than happy to share with Auxiliary Officers. Just send me a Private Message asking me for the link.
Second, Auxiliary officers dont have Peace Officer powers while on routine patrol, but if an emergency occurs, which may be ANY kind of crime, a natural disaster or man made disaster, then they are automatically Peace Officers. That is written into NYS law. Anyone who tells you different is lying.

Couldn't have said it any better myself :cool:

[NYCTNT]

PARTIALLY RIGHT..

They are considered LIMITED PEACE OFFICERS and are basically adhered to traffic enforcement in an emergency situation.

[NYCAPO]

True. If it is just a crime, then they are Part Time Peace Officers. That is what allows them to arrest and detain people, and handle the situation. However if there is a disaster, man made or natural, the NYPD could bump them up to Full Time Peace Officers. But that option is up to them.

[Zero4749]

NYCAPO how much have you spent out of your own pocket for equipment and clothing?

[NYCAPO]

Altogether, out of my pocket, I spent a little over $800. This is including a Class A, which isnt mandatory, and I got decent quality equipment at a good buff shop. Obviously if I wanted to, I could have saved a few hundred bucks and bought cheap stuff that would have made me look like crap. But the extra investment was well worth it.

[Zero4749]

Thats a lot. I'm trying to spend less since my budget is low right now.

[NYPDtoGrey]

True. If it is just a crime, then they are Part Time Peace Officers. That is what allows them to arrest and detain people, and handle the situation. However if there is a disaster, man made or natural, the NYPD could bump them up to Full Time Peace Officers. But that option is up to them.

Negative K. NYCTNT was right on the mark with the limited peace officer post. Auxiliaries are covered in the CPL under section 2.10 sub. 26.

[NYCAPO]

Thanks for the info. I misunderstood the law. Good catch NYPDtoGrey.

[NYPDtoGrey]

Thanks for the info. I misunderstood the law. Good catch NYPDtoGrey.

No problem, there's a lot of misinformation out there regaurding the auxiliary program. I don't want to see anyone get jammed up because they got some bad info. Auxiliary's don't get any kind of arrest powers through the peace officer status. The arrest powers of an auxiliary are the same as they are for any citizens arrest in NY.

[NYCAPO]

Thats a lot. I'm trying to spend less since my budget is low right now.

Thats fine. Just make sure you get the things that are required. Then worry about the extras. I'll show you the list of things I bought.

My Equipment List:
12.50 - Recruit Bag
21.25 - Wooden Baton
4.00 - 4 Belt Keepers
37.00 - Duty Belt
15.00 - Cap
12.00 - Neck Chain
8.00 - Memobook Binder
3.00 - Auxiliary Insignia
18.00 - Glove Pouch
22.00 - 2 Handcuff Cases
41.00 - 2 Handcuffs
10.50 - Auxiliary Patch
6.00 - Pen/Pencil Holder
57.90 - 2 Long Sleeve Shirts
28.00 - 2 Turtlenecks
46.00 - 2 Short Sleeve Shirts
1.70 - 2 Baton Thongs
25.00 - Auxiliary Safety Vest
55.00 - 2 Trousers
1.50 - Whistle Holder
3.00 - Command Insignia
65.00 - Duty Jacket
72.50 - Multi Season Jacket
18.00 Wind Breaker
1.00 - White Gloves
5.00 - Commendations
18.00 - 2 Shield Backings
10.00 - Nameplate
10.00 - Leather Phone Case
1.00 - Auxiliary Shield
25.00 - Search Gloves
5.95 - Signal Codes
165.00 - Police Dress Uniform(Class A)
65.95 - Police Dress Uniform(Class A) Trousers

All this equals $885.75. :eek:

[NYCAPO]

No problem, there's a lot of misinformation out there regaurding the auxiliary program. I don't want to see anyone get jammed up because they got some bad info. Auxiliary's don't get any kind of arrest powers through the peace officer status. The arrest powers of an auxiliary are the same as they are for any citizens arrest in NY.

Right. A Auxiliary Officer can arrest a perp who committed a crime in their presence. And the only arrest they can do is put the perp in handcuffs and call for a regular unit to respond to transport the perp back to the stationhouse.

[NYCTNT]

Auxiliaries CANNOT arrest/detain on PROBABLE CAUSE like Police/Peace Officers.

An AUX MUST have FULL KNOWLEDGE that the crime did in fact happen. There is no in between.

Just because you see a guy running down the block with a VCR in his hands and you did see a broken window a couple houses away, you cannot DETAIN that individual unless you did in fact see him enter and exit that residence and know for a FACT he commited said crime.

This goes for Aux and Citizen Arrests.

The only time you may use physical force is for Criminal Mischief, Assaults and Larcenies.

[NYCAPO]

Auxiliaries CANNOT arrest/detain on PROBABLE CAUSE like Police/Peace Officers.

An AUX MUST have FULL KNOWLEDGE that the crime did in fact happen. There is no in between.

Just because you see a guy running down the block with a VCR in his hands and you did see a broken window a couple houses away, you cannot DETAIN that individual unless you did in fact see him enter and exit that residence and know for a FACT he commited said crime.

This goes for Aux and Citizen Arrests.

The only time you may use physical force is for Criminal Mischief, Assaults and Larcenies.

Completely right. You cant detain someone b/c of probable cause. You can however detain or arrest someone for a crime which was not committed in your presence based information from a dispatcher or Police Officer heard over a police radio or from a Police Officer in person. It is b/c Auxiliary Officers are under the "fellow officer rule".

The case can be read at: http://www.law.cornell.edu/nyctap/I91_0186.htm

[ESU CO]

Section 2.10 #26 states that "Peace officers designated pursuant to the provisions of the New York State defense emergency act' (Aux Police) must be acting pursuant to their special duties during a period of attack or imminent attack by enemy forces, or during official drills called to combat natural or man made disasters or during official drills in preparation for an attack by enemy forces or in preparation for a natural or man made disaster.
Other than this the NYC Aux. Police have the same authority as a regular citizen to make arrests. I was an Aux. years ago and the Department made sure that this was understood.

[NYCTNT]

The department also drills the fact that they will be specifically put into place for TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. No other ENFORCEMENT is to be done.

[NYCAPO]

And I was reading a older post asking if there were any Auxiliary groups or forums. There arent alot, but I know a few that are great. The links are below.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MetroNYNJVolunteerUniformedLEO/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UnOfficialNYPDAuxiliaryGroup/

www.myspace.com/nypdauxiliary

Enjoy everyone.

[NYCAPO]

In a recent newspaper, it was announced that the City will be taking parking plaques away from the entire Auxiliary force. A Auxiliary Sgt called Bloombergs radio show to confront him on it, and it has been a huge topic on the NYPD Rant as well Auxiliary groups and forums. Recently, a Auxiliary officer posted the audio of that call and I thought I would share it with you.

http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh4/werdy1234567/?action=view&current=bloomturd.flv

[MostDeaf]

Thats fine. Just make sure you get the things that are required. Then worry about the extras. I'll show you the list of things I bought.

My Equipment List:
12.50 - Recruit Bag
21.25 - Wooden Baton
4.00 - 4 Belt Keepers
37.00 - Duty Belt
15.00 - Cap
12.00 - Neck Chain
8.00 - Memobook Binder
3.00 - Auxiliary Insignia
18.00 - Glove Pouch
22.00 - 2 Handcuff Cases
41.00 - 2 Handcuffs
10.50 - Auxiliary Patch
6.00 - Pen/Pencil Holder
57.90 - 2 Long Sleeve Shirts
28.00 - 2 Turtlenecks
46.00 - 2 Short Sleeve Shirts
1.70 - 2 Baton Thongs
25.00 - Auxiliary Safety Vest
55.00 - 2 Trousers
1.50 - Whistle Holder
3.00 - Command Insignia
65.00 - Duty Jacket
72.50 - Multi Season Jacket
18.00 Wind Breaker
1.00 - White Gloves
5.00 - Commendations
18.00 - 2 Shield Backings
10.00 - Nameplate
10.00 - Leather Phone Case
1.00 - Auxiliary Shield
25.00 - Search Gloves
5.95 - Signal Codes
165.00 - Police Dress Uniform(Class A)
65.95 - Police Dress Uniform(Class A) Trousers

All this equals $885.75. :eek:

Back in 2000 when I was in the program we got a few things from 1PP for free.

[NYCAPO]

Back in 2000 when I was in the program we got a few things from 1PP for free.

We still do. When you get your shield, you recieve a uniform voucher which gives you 1 pair of pants, 1 shirt, 1 hat, 1 whistle, 1 tie, 1 traffic vest, 1 sweater, 1 bulletproof vest, 1 duty jacket and 1 wood nightstick. The rest you have to buy out of pocket. Also remember that if you do the minimum hours, you get a $250 check in December. And I have a A/PO telling me that the PC has raised the check to $350 for fiscal year 2008. :D Has anyone heard the same thing?

[PAC084]

I heard about that as well

[NYCAPO]

I heard about that as well

Thanks for posting.

[NYCAPO]

so now that im in the class/training...i never really thought about it but i was just curious as to if there were any "perks" to being an APO. I am doing this purely for community service and for the interest factor but i was just curious anyway....

There are a few perks to the job. For one, if you do the minimum hours each year(I believe it is 144 for the year) you get a check in December for $250(Possibly $350 for fiscal year 2008). Also, if you are in uniform, you get to ride ANY NYC MTA bus or train for free. But the real perk is getting to work with the best cops in the world. Nothing beats that.

[NYCAPO]

This is a question for anyone who is in the Auxiliary Program. I have a friend who resigned from the Program in 1994 as A/Sgt. He is currently re-joining and is in the training class going on now. He thinks that his prior time counts now, and when he gets back in, he will be A/Sgt as soon as he is back in. I told him that I dont think his prior time counts at all since he has been out for 14 years, but he doesnt believe me. My question is "Does his prior time count now?"

[MostDeaf]

I think that can best be answered by his Aux Coordinator as they are the ones that put in the request to promote their APO's.

[NYCAPO]

I think that can best be answered by his Aux Coordinator as they are the ones that put in the request to promote their APO's.

Completely true. Thanks for the info.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

This is a question for anyone who is in the Auxiliary Program. I have a friend who resigned from the Program in 1994 as A/Sgt. He is currently re-joining and is in the training class going on now. He thinks that his prior time counts now, and when he gets back in, he will be A/Sgt as soon as he is back in. I told him that I dont think his prior time counts at all since he has been out for 14 years, but he doesnt believe me. My question is "Does his prior time count now?"

His prior time would count and he would be considered a "reinstatement". However, he would have to start off as an APO once again and work his way back up. I know a female APO who had 15 years as an APO and was an Auxiliary Police Deputy Inspector. She left the program and came back after 3 years at which she had to go through the training again and work her way back up. She is currently an Auxiliary Police Sergeant.

If an APO quits and comes back within a year, he/she will come back with the rank that he/she left with. If a year has elapsed, one will have to redo the entire course.

This works the same way for regular PO's. If they leave and come back after a year, they have to go through the entire NYPD academy.

[NYCAPO]

His prior time would count and he would be considered a "reinstatement". However, he would have to start off as an APO once again and work his way back up. I know a female APO who had 15 years as an APO and was an Auxiliary Police Deputy Inspector. She left the program and came back after 3 years at which she had to go through the training again and work her way back up. She is currently an Auxiliary Police Sergeant.

If an APO quits and comes back within a year, he/she will come back with the rank that he/she left with. If a year has elapsed, one will have to redo the entire course.

This works the same way for regular PO's. If they leave and come back after a year, they have to go through the entire NYPD academy.

Thank you very much. I'm gonna tell him that.

[NYCTNT]

One word...

POLITICS.

Its not allowed to have a car that looks almost identical to NYPD with a light package/siren setup, but its done anyway.

[GhostJ]

Hey has any heard about Auxiliary going to be issue expandable baton and mace?
My Auxiliary Coordinator is teaching the whole Queens North Auxiliary, and she said it's possible that Auxiliary Officers will be issue expandable baton and mace, but she said she doesn't have the whole class material yet, but she said it's possible Auxiliary Officers will be allow to carry expandable baton and mace.

[Pekkier]

I'm pretty sure that aint going to happen!

[NYCAPO]

Hey has any heard about Auxiliary going to be issue expandable baton and mace?
My Auxiliary Coordinator is teaching the whole Queens North Auxiliary, and she said it's possible that Auxiliary Officers will be issue expandable baton and mace, but she said she doesn't have the whole class material yet, but she said it's possible Auxiliary Officers will be allow to carry expandable baton and mace.

I talked to a Coordinator in Queens North and he said that A/PO's who go on bicycle patrol will be trained with the expandable baton for the safety issue of the regular straight baton going into the spikes of the rear tire, causing a crash. All other A/PO's will keep the regular straight baton. He also said that the dept. will start training all A/PO's with mace. I asked a friend of mine out of Queens South and he told me he heard the same thing. Hopefully it will definitately happen, and fast.

[Pekkier]

I would ratter have a old fashion pistal then mace

[PAC084]

We will see what happens though. It is especially hard for those like myself who are sworn LEO's in the program having to obey dept guidelines.

[NYSJAILER2008]

We will see what happens though. It is especially hard for those like myself who are sworn LEO's in the program having to obey dept guidelines.
Hey PAC084

What LEO agency do you work for? Does your Peace Officer status carry over into NYPD AUX when on partrol?:confused: Or are you a regular citizen? I know if you are a peace officer you have that status 24/7 (well in most agengies), how does it work out with assults on a officer and/or arrests or seeing a crime being committed?

[BklynsFinest347]

Don't forget, APO's are mostly tagged with a PO at night, but in the morning they're mostly loner or paried with another APO.

Not necessarily. In my command, we once had a summer robbery condition in the vicinity of a hospital. My partner & I were placed on a robbery post (we were still in FTU at the time) on the north side of the hospital & they placed 2 APO's together on the south end. They were doing the same shift that we were doing, which was 6pm-2am.

[BklynsFinest347]

Thanks for the reply. It was confusing at first since I heard that they changed the way the process was. I applied at the 72nd precinct and they sent all of us to the 67th for the interview and we were confused since they sent us back and forth.

The Bklyn South boro is upstairs from the 67.

[GhostJ]

Hey PAC084

What LEO agency do you work for? Does your Peace Officer status carry over into NYPD AUX when on partrol?:confused: Or are you a regular citizen? I know if you are a peace officer you have that status 24/7 (well in most agengies), how does it work out with assults on a officer and/or arrests or seeing a crime being committed?

I don't think Peace Officer status will carry over into NYPD AUX when on patrol, one of the APO in my command is a NYC Correction Officer, but my coordinator said not only he will not be allow to carry his personal firearm, when he makes arrest as an APO he will be making citizen arrest.

[NYSJAILER2008]

I don't think Peace Officer status will carry over into NYPD AUX when on patrol, one of the APO in my command is a NYC Correction Officer, but my coordinator said not only he will not be allow to carry his personal firearm, when he makes arrest as an APO he will be making citizen arrest.
WooooW now that is something that I find to be unacceptable. I could be on AUX patrol and see a perp I arrested when I patroled the streets or a inmate that was in my custody behind the walls on the streets and I am in uniform with no defense weapons and if I survive the confrontation I will only be able to make a citizens arrest, when by law that is immpossible because NYS/NYC Correction Officers have 24/7 P.O. status. The NYPD amazes me more and more everyday. I take my 8 point hat off to AUX/PO, you all definately go above and beyond the call of duty and put your life on the line more than regular police officers

[Dinosaur32]

I imagine that the relationship of your Peace Officer status to the NYPD Auxiliary is similar that of the Coast Guard Auxiliary. With the USCG AUX as soon as you are under CG orders you have to put aside your State LEO status until your orders are finished. I assume that for liability purposes the NYPD expects the same of its Auxiliaries. Of course, if necessary, you could always take of your Aux shirt and badge, call in to the command and quit your tour. Then you could take action as a State Peace Officer.

[NYCTNT]

Well...

Lets see how this holds up from a courts point of view.

They APO's arrest for whatever probable cause crime he arrested the perp for will hold way more water once it is discovered that the arrest was in ACTUALITY made under his 24/7 PEACE OFFICER status... eventhough he is a NYPD AUX.

Would there be much of a problem here? probably with NYPD, but I dont see a hassle with the courts.

The whole caper will be fixed by the responding units who will conduct an initial investigation and make things work by the books anyway.

This is a procedural guidline, not a LAW OUTLINE.

[Dinosaur32]

NUCTNT......Of course the arrest would stand.....but from the perspective of the NYPD, they do not want officers from other agencies operating under the color of authority from the City................the City faces enough lawsuits over the actions of its NYPD Officers, I doubt they want the added burden of defending suits brought by persons arrested by State Court Officers or City Correction Officers while under orders as Auxiliaries.

[NYCTNT]

Yea that is without a doubt 100% correct and true to the tee.

I believe the original question from a poster was if the arrest will stand.. which it surely will.

[NYSJAILER2008]

Yea that is without a doubt 100% correct and true to the tee.

I believe the original question from a poster was if the arrest will stand.. which it surely will.
Well what I really wanted to know is was if you did take P.O. status action while on patrol to something serious. Will the NYPD/AUX dept. burn you or jam you up?

[NYCTNT]

HELL YEA!

Not much they can REALLY DO to you as you are a volunteer, but you will probably get booted!.

[GoldBadge]

WooooW now that is something that I find to be unacceptable. I could be on AUX patrol and see a perp I arrested when I patroled the streets or a inmate that was in my custody behind the walls on the streets and I am in uniform with no defense weapons and if I survive the confrontation I will only be able to make a citizens arrest

All the more reason why full time LEO's/peace officers should not become auxiliaries. For NYPD purposes, when you are wearing that aux uniform you are an aux and no more, despite the authority you may possess based on that tin in your pocket.

I'm not quite sure why someone who deals with mutts 40 hours a week would want to volunteer for more time - unpaid and unarmed.

[Dinosaur32]

You also should check with your agency. The agency may not want you to volunteer as an Auxiliary....even though you are acting under the authority of the NYPD, your agency could get dragged into any lawsuit arising out of your activity. And then you will really be sucking wind. NYPD will not indemnify you, they told you not to take police action. And your agemncy would likely take the position that they are free from indemnifying you for any actions taken while wearing a City PD uniform.

[NYSJAILER2008]

You also should check with your agency. The agency may not want you to volunteer as an Auxiliary....even though you are acting under the authority of the NYPD, your agency could get dragged into any lawsuit arising out of your activity. And then you will really be sucking wind. NYPD will not indemnify you, they told you not to take police action. And your agemncy would likely take the position that they are free from indemnifying you for any actions taken while wearing a City PD uniform.
Yeah me I would never ever ever ever ever join NYPD/AUX force. I just wanted to know how would that work for certain situations that could and has probabbly arised before. The APO is good for NYPD hopefuls to see what the streets are about or nys security guards looking for some partol action. I dont think its good for sworn officers looking to do a lil community service on the side. I could never go from an armed officer with the odds still not in my favor to a complete helpless sheep in one of the baddest cities in the world!!!! Insane, madness, NEW YORK BABY!!!!!

[NYSJAILER2008]

All the more reason why full time LEO's/peace officers should not become auxiliaries. For NYPD purposes, when you are wearing that aux uniform you are an aux and no more, despite the authority you may possess based on that tin in your pocket.

I'm not quite sure why someone who deals with mutts 40 hours a week would want to volunteer for more time - unpaid and unarmed.
I concur with you fine sir.

[NYCAPO]

I'm not quite sure why someone who deals with mutts 40 hours a week would want to volunteer for more time - unpaid and unarmed.

I completely agree. Why not do overtime with your department. You will get paid, and get to carry your gun, taser, and/or pepper spray.

[2971511]

I am a former Aux. officer 1982-1987, and when i left, any NYS Peace Officer who was authorized to carry a firearm in connection with their duties, were allowed to carry concealed while on APO duty. Has this changed.?? Ive been out for some time now.

Also I think that in this day and age, and with the trgic death of 2 APO's last year, you guys should push to be armed, at least while on duty. I cant believe APBA Pres. John Hyland and other senior APO's in leadership positions told the media they are not in favor of arming you guys. In this day and age it is crazy to be doing any type of enforcement action or wearing any type of uniform without having a weapon to protect yourself.

If they were concerned about you carrying guns off duty, they could get the aux coordinator to have station house guns, and sign them in and out during each tour.

Stay safe out there.

[PAC084]

Peace Officers are no longer allowed to carry their off duty weapons concealed while on duty as an Aux. This happenned a while ago. There is a bill being pushed in the state legislature that would allow ALL aux. officers in the state to have peace officer status while on duty,etc. People join the program for a variety of reasons not for pay obviously. Things will get better eventually. Stay Safe

[GoldBadge]

There is a bill being pushed in the state legislature that would allow ALL aux. officers in the state to have peace officer status while on duty

But what good is that going to do? An unarmed aux taking peace officer actions, like making an arrest? For liability (and aux safety) reasons I can't see the NYPD allowing that to happen.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

Peace Officers are no longer allowed to carry their off duty weapons concealed while on duty as an Aux. This happenned a while ago. There is a bill being pushed in the state legislature that would allow ALL aux. officers in the state to have peace officer status while on duty,etc. People join the program for a variety of reasons not for pay obviously. Things will get better eventually. Stay Safe

This is true. However, the new A.P. patrol guide has not been fully updated, and APO's are still operating under the current or "old" patrol guide. The Peace Officers no longer being allowed to carry has been word-of-mouth by the NYPD Auxiliary Police Section and NYPD. There has not been any official writing on the fact of "Full-Blown" Peace Officers not being able to carry while on duty as a ("Part-Time" Peace Officer) NYPD APO. Since the A.P. is still operating under the old A.P. Patrol Guide, any armed Peace Officer would still be covered by the writing in the current guide. I would rather not take the risk.

The NYPD Auxiliary P.O.'s currently have "limited" powers of a Peace Officer as per the NYPD and have "private citizen" powers of arrest unless "activated" by the NYPD. Basically, A.P. Officers are reserve citizens on stand-by of a disaster. The current Volunteer Peace Officer bill would give them full-blown Peace Officer status while on duty and would be an addendum to the "State Defense Emergency Act".

[2971511]

Auxilaries some called Reserve Officers in ALMOST every other jurisdiction in the Country carry handguns, some have full police power and can write tickets, etc, I dont see why you all are not afforded this protection. In DC they have a reserve program, and officers are allowed to carry on duty, they go thru the same police academy as full time officerrs just on nights and weekends. It is obvious that the dangers you face are the same, you should have the ability to defend yourselves.

If they were serious about the program they would give you firearms training, and let you get a carry permit and carry while on APO duty. This is the ONLY thing that makes sense in this day and age.

It is carzy that some campus police, public safety, and security are not armed in this country. NUTS NUTS NUTS.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

But what good is that going to do? An unarmed aux taking peace officer actions, like making an arrest? For liability (and aux safety) reasons I can't see the NYPD allowing that to happen.

This would be beneficial to NYPD Auxiliary Cops. Auxiliary Police Officers are trained to make arrests, and they currently do so. Although an arrest may be a "private citizen" arrest for now, when they are activated as Peace Officers during a state of emergency, they are already trained to make an arrest as a Peace Officer. The Volunteer Peace Officer Bill will give A.P. credibility to do so and give them stronger legal protection just as New York City Special Patrolman or NYC Parks Enforcement. If you want to think about liability, it is already a liability to train volunteer cops who put on a uniform and conduct police patrol on the streets. It is a risk the city has been taking for more than half a century.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

Auxilaries some called Reserve Officers in ALMOST every other jurisdiction in the Country carry handguns, some have full police power and can write tickets, etc, I dont see why you all are not afforded this protection. In DC they have a reserve program, and officers are allowed to carry on duty, they go thru the same police academy as full time officerrs just on nights and weekends. It is obvious that the dangers you face are the same, you should have the ability to defend yourselves.

If they were serious about the program they would give you firearms training, and let you get a carry permit and carry while on APO duty. This is the ONLY thing that makes sense in this day and age.

It is carzy that some campus police, public safety, and security are not armed in this country. NUTS NUTS NUTS.

You are right. It is extremely NUTS. That is why NYPD APO's need to have GUTS. As per the New York State Criminal Procedure Law, the NYPD can actually train and authorize Auxiliary Police Officers to carry a firearm. From what I hear, the NYPD will not allow this due to the simple fact that the department has to worry about 32,000 regular cops. Adding an additional 3,400 auxiliary/reserve cops to the list of officers with guns will be too much for them to bare.

The surrounding Yonkers and Suffolk Counties allow their Auxiliary Police Officers to carry a firearm and they have full Peace Officer status.

What the NYPD should develop is a Tier System (similar to the LAPD reserves) in which certain APO's can carry a firearm depending on the psychological and physical capabilities and after proper training by the NYPD.

[GoldBadge]

it is already a liability to train volunteer cops who put on a uniform and conduct police patrol on the streets. It is a risk the city has been taking for more than half a century.

I always thought their primary mission was to be the eyes and ears of the dept., not to take law enforcement action but instead call a regular if the need arose.

I was right, this is from the NYPD website:

Auxiliary Police provide extra "eyes and ears" for the Police Department by performing uniformed foot, vehicle and bicycle patrols. They are trained to observe and report conditions requiring the services of the regular police. Whenever possible, they assist in non-enforcement and non-hazardous duties.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/careers/auxiliary_police.shtml

[ShRiGaWiGa]

I always thought their primary mission was to be the eyes and ears of the dept., not to take law enforcement action but instead call a regular if the need arose.

I was right, this is from the NYPD website:

Auxiliary Police provide extra "eyes and ears" for the Police Department by performing uniformed foot, vehicle and bicycle patrols. They are trained to observe and report conditions requiring the services of the regular police. Whenever possible, they assist in non-enforcement and non-hazardous duties.



You are right and I do not dispute you. Auxiliary Police Officers are primarily Eyes and Ears for the department. If you look at the wording of their quote from the NYPD website it states "Whenever possible, they assist in non-enforcement and non-hazardous duties." This displays the fact that at times it may not be possible to be confined to non-enforcement and non-hazardous conditions. Being in a police uniform in New York City, there is always a target on one's back and there are possibilities at which an APO may face danger and may need to enforce the law.

For example, if an Auxiliary Police Officer Unit is walking the beat and comes upon a violent assault in progress, they will certainly call for an additional unit, but be aware that they have the authority and authorization to conduct enforcement on that visible crime and make an arrest.

In the event of an emergency, a law enforcement agency cannot give Peace Officer status to any persons unless they are trained. Auxiliary Police Officers are trained as Peace Officers, but are given limited authority while on duty.

As per the NYPD website:

In the event of an emergency, legislation exists which enables the Police Commissioner, Mayor, and/or New York State Legislature to confer Peace Officer status upon Auxiliary Police.

Pursuant to section 2.20 of the Criminal Procedure Law, Auxiliary Officers may be given Peace Officer status. This limited authority is only valid during a period of imminent or actual enemy attack by enemy forces, or during official duties.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/careers/NYPD_AuxPoliceOverviewBook.pdf

[GoldBadge]

You are right and I do not dispute you. Auxiliary Police Officers are primarily Eyes and Ears for the department. If you look at the wording of their quote from the NYPD website it states "Whenever possible, they assist in non-enforcement and non-hazardous duties." This displays the fact that at times it may not be possible to be confined to non-enforcement and non-hazardous conditions.

I don't interpret it the same way you do. I see it as meaning that when they are not on patrol being the "eyes and ears," they can assist with non-enforcement and non-hazardous duties.

Look I agree with your contention that aux's are in harm's way when they wear that uniform, but I don't see the NYPD allowing aux's to act as peace officers (armed or unarmed), barring a huge catastrophe.

[2971511]

2 NYC APO's were killed last year because they stumbled upon a crazed gunman and felt the need to take action because they were in uniform, whether or not the APOs are peace officers or not, being in a uniform that says police compels them to take action. they should not be in a police uniform and on patrol if they are not armed, plain and simple. The uniform is too much like an NYPD uniform. It is obvious from this tragedy that a bad guy didnt notice the difference.

the NYPD wants to look like they are "everywhere" by using stand ins that appear to be cops, but in fact are not. And the end result is a tragedy

[NYCAPO]

http://www.auxiliary-police.org/proposed.htm

I think thats the proposed law that everyone is talking about. It looks like a great proposal, and definitately has my support.

[SCPS PO]

http://www.auxiliary-police.org/proposed.htm

I think thats the proposed law that everyone is talking about. It looks like a great proposal, and definitately has my support.

That proposal has been around for a long time now. In fact I attended the first seminar at Yeshiva College in the Bronx when they revealed it. From personal experience, the PD needs to revamp the whole system in which Auxiliaries are screened. Maybe incorporate a psych paid for by the proposed volunteer and have them pay for the training out of their own pockets. There is such a high turnover rate, and I suspect that some people who apply for the program do so for the shield and ID. What killed me was I was at the local hardware supply store last week and I see a guy with a shield out around his neck. I'm thinking store security or loss prevention...but it was an Aux buffing out at the Home Depot. Not a good idea to invite attention like that to yourself, especially when you are unarmed.

[NYCAPO]

That proposal has been around for a long time now. In fact I attended the first seminar at Yeshiva College in the Bronx when they revealed it. From personal experience, the PD needs to revamp the whole system in which Auxiliaries are screened.

The department revamped the hiring process and training course in late 2007.

The Command's hiring process is the same with the addition that all new applicants must sign an affidavit acknowledging compliance with the departments Zero-Tolerance drug policy, and pass a drug/alcohol screening. If they pass the Command's hiring process they go to a specific Command and go in front of a "review panel". This panel is made up of approximately 12 high ranking AMOS and a few MOS. They review your application, ask you questions, and then individually decide if you go to training or are taken out of the Program. Each member of the panel says yes or no to you. You must recieve a certain number of yes's to go to training. If you dont that number, your out. The panel in Queens actually removed 2 applicants from 1 Command alone.

Training is now centralized at 1 location per borough. Classes are taught by NYS Certified trainers. You must go through 3 months of field training after you hit the streets. There will be random drug testing, and some of the recruits in the training class going on now already went through 1 drug test so far. All recruits now go through training in CPR(Courtesy, Professionalism, Respect), Domestic Violence, Counter Terrorism, Escape Hoods, Multi Cultural Diversity, Radio Usage, Backround of Cims, and Care and Maintenance of Bulletproof Vests, in addition to the classroom training and physical training.

Hiring standards and training is much better than before, but they need to make alot more changes. They need to give Auxiliary officers Peace Officer status while they are on patrol. This isnt just for them to take action. Its for harsher penalties if you assault or kill an Auxiliary officer. They also need to arm Auxiliary officers with better protection weapons. Change the batons from the straight wood one to the expandable ones that regular officers carry, and train and arm Auxiliary officers with pepper spray and either a low voltage or civilian model taser or a pepperball gun, both of which are non lethal and are very effective in officer safety.

http://www.pepperball.com/le/products.aspx (I like the SA-10nx model)

http://www.taser.com/products/consumers/Pages/TASERM18L.aspx

[ShRiGaWiGa]

All in All, NYPD Auxiliary Police Officers provide a very noble and generous service to the people of New York. They provide assistance to regular police officers by picking up jobs when they are busy and backing them up in needed situations. Their service is often unrecognized and unappreciated by everyone. They risk their lives just as regular officers and for no pay--just due to their self-less devotion to humanity. In the end, the majority of Auxiliary/Reserve Police Officers want to lend a hand and make a difference. We should all be grateful for the service of these volunteer cops. May they return from patrol safe and sound to their families. After all we are all human beings and we should take care of one another. That is what I feel being an NYPD Auxiliary Police Officer is really about: helping others rather than being selfish.:D

[JohnDoe61]

All in All, NYPD Auxiliary Police Officers provide a very noble and generous service to the people of New York. They provide assistance to regular police officers by picking up jobs when they are busy and backing them up in needed situations. Their service is often unrecognized and unappreciated by everyone. They risk their lives just as regular officers and for no pay--just due to their self-less devotion to humanity. In the end, the majority of Auxiliary/Reserve Police Officers want to lend a hand and make a difference. We should all be grateful for the service of these volunteer cops. May they return from patrol safe and sound to their families. After all we are all human beings and we should take care of one another. That is what I feel being an NYPD Auxiliary Police Officer is really about: helping others rather than being selfish.:D

right on.. Anyone here go to the detail at the 70 in Brooklyn, about two weeks ago?

[NYCAPO]

And now all brand new Auxiliary RMP's are going to be white(just like regular officers). The dept. is short on hiring numbers and they need as many white RMP's as possible so the public thinks there are more cops. School Safety RMP's will be white too and possibly Traffic Enforcement's as well.

[NYCTNT]

where did you hear this nonsense?

School Safety just got new RMP's and they are the usual dark blue(with the exception of the PD lightbar installed), as well as traffic.

I highly doubt this will happen.

Whatever you hear, do not believe.. and believe half of what you see.

[NYCAPO]

where did you hear this nonsense?

School Safety just got new RMP's and they are the usual dark blue(with the exception of the PD lightbar installed), as well as traffic.

I highly doubt this will happen.

Whatever you hear, do not believe.. and believe half of what you see.

I got it off a Auxiliary Yahoo group. A guy from Fleet Services(the unit that handles dept. vehicles) says the dept. wants this for more presence. This was also mentioned in the last Coordinator meeting a few days ago.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MetroNYNJVolunteerUniformedLEO/

[NYCTNT]

im gonna have to ask around and see whats up.

there is no official intrim order or anything, so who knows,

[MostDeaf]

Well if they are only the NEW RMP's many commands will have the blue RMP's for years and years to come.

[NYCAPO]

Well if they are only the NEW RMP's many commands will have the blue RMP's for years and years to come.

Exactly. Some commands just got 2007 Impalas, so they wont see a white RMP for some time.

[MostDeaf]

when i was in a BX command about 8 years ago we had 1 RMP and it had 230,000 miles on it before they trashed it and got a another car. I think they got a mini van or something soccer mom'ish like that.

[NYCAPO]

when i was in a BX command about 8 years ago we had 1 RMP and it had 230,000 miles on it before they trashed it and got a another car. I think they got a mini van or something soccer mom'ish like that.

The NYPD used to run the Auxiliary RMP's until they died. This has changed over the years, and now they condemn them usually before 100,000 miles if not earlier. One command currently uses a Ford Windstar as a RMP. From what I heard it was donated to the Command and the department painted it and put on lightbars and sirens. I personally think its stupid to use a minivan as a patrol car. A Crown Victoria Police Interceptor or Impala is what should be used.

[MostDeaf]

The NYPD used to run the Auxiliary RMP's until they died. This has changed over the years, and now they condemn them usually before 100,000 miles if not earlier. One command currently uses a Ford Windstar as a RMP. From what I heard it was donated to the Command and the dept. painted it and put on lightbars and sirens. I personally think its stupid to use a minivan as a patrol car. A Crown Victoria Police Interceptor or Impala is what should be used.

NYCAPO, Yes I think we are probably speaking of the same command. Probably the ONLY command in NYC with a mini van as an Aux RMP.

[2971511]

I'm SOOOOOOO old, I remember when Aux. RMPs' were all white, and regular RMP's were white and light blue...

Heck scratch that, I remember when RMPs were Green and black ....

[NYCAPO]

NYCAPO, Yes I think we are probably speaking of the same command. Probably the ONLY command in NYC with a mini van as an Aux RMP.

There's a photo of it on Flickr. It looks funny as a marked RMP. The dept. should have either politely refused it, or made it into a replacement vehicle.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronnyg/2183820317/

[NYCAPO]

I'm SOOOOOOO old, I remember when Aux. RMPs' were all white, and regular RMP's were white and light blue...

Heck scratch that, I remember when RMPs were Green and black ....


LOL The good old days. I miss the light blue RMP's.

[JohnDoe61]

Ive seen white rmp's used, but they have a magnetic auxiliary badge that they add to it...and I've seen this done more then twice. maybe my pct. is just lucky.

[NYCAPO]

Ive seen white rmp's used, but they have a magnetic auxiliary badge that they add to it...and I've seen this done more then twice. maybe my pct. is just lucky.

Auxiliary Officers in the Highway Patrol dont have dark blue Auxiliary vehicles anymore. They use regular officers white RMP's with 'Auxiliary' decals affixed to the rear of the car.

Auxiliary Officers in the Transit Unit also dont have blue Auxiliary vehicles. They too use regular officers white RMP's with 'Auxiliary' decals affixed to the rear of the car.

All Precinct's have atleast 1 blue or black Auxiliary RMP. Usually that RMP is used by a A/Supervisor to check posts and perform RMP patrol. If a Precinct wants to put more Auxiliary officers on patrol in RMP's, then, assuming there are extra vehicles, they put them in regular officers white RMP's. However not all Commands allow Auxiliary officers to drive the white RMP's.

[Pekkier]

APO's shouldn't be in RMP car at all regardless of the APO's rank. They're not trained to be driving in such vehcles regardless of the car's color.

[zeroryde]

lol at the Windstar RMP

[NYCAPO]

APO's shouldn't be in RMP car at all regardless of the APO's rank. They're not trained to be driving in such vehcles regardless of the car's color.

Completely false. NYPD Auxiliary Officers who drive department vehicles go through the same EVOC training as regular MOS at Floyd Bennett Field. And until they go through and pass the EVOC course, they cant drive department vehicles. If the department catches ANY AMOS driving a department vehicle without passing the EVOC course, that AMOS will be reprimanded if not thrown out of the Auxiliary Program.

Do you really think the NYPD would allow untrained Auxiliary officers to drive marked RMP's with lights and sirens?

[NYCAPO]

lol at the Windstar RMP

LOL It is funny.

[GhostJ]

Do you really think the NYPD would allow untrained Auxiliary officers to drive marked RMP's with lights and sirens?

To tell the truth Aux. RMP shouldn't have sirens, some APOs just connect the sirens back on when they receive the RMP. My command has a ex-highway RMP as our Aux. RMP and the only APO who knows about these electronics stuff said highway RMPs are different from regular RMPs, they are hard to connect the sirens back once they are disconnect.

[NYCAPO]

To tell the truth Aux. RMP shouldn't have sirens, some APOs just connect the sirens back on when they receive the RMP. My command has a ex-highway RMP as our Aux. RMP and the only APO who knows about these electronics stuff said highway RMPs are different from regular RMPs, they are hard to connect the sirens back once they are disconnect.

I completely disagree. Sirens are a necessary piece of equipment for ANY police vehicle. What if your responding to a call and you drive through a red light with no sirens on? You are put at a very high risk of getting involved in a accident. Not all drivers will see you. As far as A/PO's re-connecting the sirens, some Commands do but most dont. Either they dont want to get in trouble, they dont know how, or FSD makes it impossible for the siren system to ever work again.

And let me ask you a question - If you think Auxiliary RMP's dont need sirens, then what are your thoughts on School Safety or Traffic Enforcement RMP's having sirens?

[NYPDtoGrey]

I completely disagree. Sirens are a necessary piece of equipment for ANY police vehicle. What if your responding to a call and you drive through a red light with no sirens on? You are put at a very high risk of getting involved in a accident. Not all drivers will see you. As far as A/PO's re-connecting the sirens, some Commands do but most dont. Either they dont want to get in trouble, they dont know how, or FSD makes it impossible for the siren system to ever work again.

And let me ask you a question - If you think Auxiliary RMP's dont need sirens, then what are your thoughts on School Safety or Traffic Enforcement RMP's having sirens?

Yes, sirens are a necessary piece of equipment for a police vehicle. The truth of the matter is that Auxiliary Police, while doing a valuable service to the community, are not the police. An Aux. RMP is not a police vehicle and should not be running with lights and sirens to any call. Aux. Police are not supposed to be answering jobs. They have no business going to any job that would require the use of lights and sirens. The only jobs an Aux. car should go to is if it requested to assist with traffic control. Other than that the Aux. car is used to transport AMOS to and from posts or training.

[PAC084]

I STRONGLY disagree with that statement for the following reasons:
1) What if it's a 10-13 and the AUX rmp is the ONLY rmp available at the s/h, how would a MOS respond to that condition? ( It has happenned)
2) What if a MOS is getting it handed to him by a perp and an AUX rmp on patrol is the closest back up? (I've personally been involved in many of those)
3)What if the AUX rmp has to be utilized by the REG MOS for patrol b/c the REG rmp is not available?
These are just some of the reason though there are tons more

[MostDeaf]

I think we can go back and forth on the subject of an Aux. RMP having sirens or not. I believe it would be to the discretion of the Aux Coordinator in each command.
Especially if the aux coordinator is a buff.
I have personally seen coordinators respond to jobs with a Aux RMP with lights and sirens in full swing. I've seen regular MOS take an Aux RMP and pull people over and give summonses to people that thought they would'nt get a ticket.

Also, if there is let say a 10-13 or an 85 forth-with. EVERYBODY would go there as quickly and safely as possible. Including Auxiliaries. Even if they just have to go there to keep traffic flowing and/or keep traffic AWAY, while the regular cops take care of the situation.
Say there was an "armed EDP" call. Auxiliaries would go and stay maybe a block or 2 away and divert traffic away to keep other civilians safe so that the cops with side-arms can focus on taking down the perp and not worry about innocent people getting hurt.



Edit: haha, I think PAC084 and I posted this at the exact same time ^

[PAC084]

I think we did. Hahaha. At least we are on the same page on this topic. What people forget as well is that most AMOS are sworn F/T Peace Officers( ex: Corrections, Courts, TBTA, T&LC, Racing & Wagering, School Safety, etc.)

[NYCAPO]

What people forget as well is that most AMOS are sworn F/T Peace Officers

NYPD Auxiliary Police officers are not Full Time Peace officers. They have Part Time Peace Officer Status.

[NYCAPO]

Yes, sirens are a necessary piece of equipment for a police vehicle. The truth of the matter is that Auxiliary Police, while doing a valuable service to the community, are not the police. An Aux. RMP is not a police vehicle and should not be running with lights and sirens to any call. Aux. Police are not supposed to be answering jobs. They have no business going to any job that would require the use of lights and sirens. The only jobs an Aux. car should go to is if it requested to assist with traffic control. Other than that the Aux. car is used to transport AMOS to and from posts or training.

I consider the Auxiliary Police the "assistance" police. If a Command gets backlogged with calls, Auxiliary Police officers can pick up no crime calls, like 53's. That relieves full time officers and lets them focus on crime calls. Auxiliary RMP's are police cars. Thats why they are fully marked, have lights and sirens(most of the RMP's sirens work), and full time officers can take them out if they need extra RMP's. Although Auxiliary Police officers arent told to pick up calls, they do. You know it, and I know it. They most certainly do have business responding to a job that requires Code 3 response. 53's with injuries, RMP 53's, person struck, and person injured calls to name a few. If on scene of a call and regular MOS are on scene, then Auxiliary officers should focus on taffic control. If the AMOS are the only cops on scene, then they need to focus on the call, and not traffic control. Auxiliary RMP's are used for numerous reasons. Patrol, Transport, and Supervisors to check posts are the 3 main reasons.

And I'll ask you the same question I asked Ghost J - If you think Auxiliary RMP's dont need sirens, then what are your thoughts on School Safety or Traffic Enforcement RMP's having sirens?

[GhostJ]

Sirens are a necessary piece of equipment for ANY police vehicle. What if your responding to a call and you drive through a red light with no sirens on? And let me ask you a question - If you think Auxiliary RMP's dont need sirens, then what are your thoughts on School Safety or Traffic Enforcement RMP's having sirens?

I have been an APO for 2 years, I am not saying we don't need sirens I am saying NYPD don't give us sirens, and we are not allow to respond to any calls, the only people who are allow to respond to any calls are cops. Besides I really don't think School Safety or Traffic Enforcement should have sirens, I don't even know why School Safety even have RMPs.

[NYCAPO]

I urge ALL members of the NYPD Auxiliary to attend this demonstration. Hopefully this will get it through the City's head that major changes need to be made to the Auxiliary Police Program.


Auxiliary Police Supervisors Benevolent Association
City of New York, INC.
243 Fifth Avenue, Suite 314
New York, NY 10016
www.apsba.org


MEDIA ADVISORY

PRESS CONFERENCE


DATE: Sunday March 30, 2008

TIME: 11 A.M. SHARP

LOCATION: STEPS OF CITY HALL

Guests attending or invited:

Councilmember Peter F. Vallone Jr.

Councilmember David I. Weprin

Many other Elected Officials

Auxiliary Members throughout the City

Family Members of our Fallen Brothers

All are invited to support our cause.

It has been one year since our Auxiliary Brothers were killed in the Line of Duty and we deserve better! How many more have to die before change is considered? What will be the public's reaction when Auxiliary Officers no longer walk the beat!

INFO: WILLIAM - jpaskoff@apsba.org / 646-533-5228

**This is NOT an official NYPD event and therefore do NOT sign a APS-10 and DO NOT under any circumstances come in uniform or wear/display your ID/Shield.

You want to display professionalism, so wear a SUIT.
No Baggy Jeans, Not hats, etc...
Remember, there is no second chance to make a first impression. Remain professional, and you will make us look good.

[PAC084]

What was meant by my quote of AMOS being F/T Peace Officers is that in our "day jobs" that's what we are and that is why I gave examples of the different agencies many work for

[NYCTNT]

because as silly as it may sound.. school safety are peace officers with powers to arrest.

THEY NEEDDDDDD SIRENS!

They are essentially... cops without guns with a crappy job title.

Yes, there are kids out there that carry guns.

and little Anthony that you use to pinch his cheeks as a baby.. yeaaaa.. he has grown up to be a gangbanger at his local high school.

Never had a problem with a SSA job wise, personally or anything.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

because as silly as it may sound.. school safety are peace officers with powers to arrest.

THEY NEEDDDDDD SIRENS!

They are essentially... cops without guns with a crappy job title.

Yes, there are kids out there that carry guns.

and little Anthony that you use to pinch his cheeks as a baby.. yeaaaa.. he has grown up to be a gangbanger at his local high school.

Never had a problem with a SSA job wise, personally or anything.

Well in regards to School Safety Agents and Traffic Agents - not all of them are Peace Officers. The SSA's and TA's can be identified as Peace Officers by an 'obtuse angle' stripe on the bottom of their patches which reads "Special Patrolman". Not all School Safety and Traffic Agents are "Special Patrolman" unless they go through an additional peace officer training course - therefore, not all of them are Peace Officers.

NYPD Auxiliary Police Officers are trained as "Peace Officers" in their training course but are allowed limited function status unless activated by the NY State, Mayor, and/or Police Commissioner. In the meantime, NYPD Aux. Police Officers are allowed to respond to non-hazardous jobs if cleared by their command's regular C.O., Borough HQ Coordinator, or their Command's Coordinator.

[NYCAPO]

What was meant by my quote of AMOS being F/T Peace Officers is that in our "day jobs" that's what we are and that is why I gave examples of the different agencies many work for

Oh. I misunderstood you. Sorry.

[NYCAPO]

THEY NEEDDDDDD SIRENS! They are essentially... cops without guns with a crappy job title.

I completely agree. School Safety Agents need sirens in their RMP's. They need vehicles that can give them a fast response to various points throughout the city if something big happened in a school.

Well in regards to School Safety Agents and Traffic Agents - not all of them are Peace Officers. The SSA's and TA's can be identified as Peace Officers by an 'obtuse angle' stripe on the bottom of their patches which reads "Special Patrolman". Not all School Safety and Traffic Agents are "Special Patrolman" unless they go through an additional peace officer training course - therefore, not all of them are Peace Officers.

NYPD Auxiliary Police Officers are trained as "Peace Officers" in their training course but are allowed limited function status unless activated by the NY State, Mayor, and/or Police Commissioner. In the meantime, NYPD Aux. Police Officers are allowed to respond to non-hazardous jobs if cleared by their command's regular C.O., Borough HQ Coordinator, or their Command's Coordinator.

You are right, and I would like to explain it a little bit. The only Traffic Agents that can have Special Patrolman status are Level 4's. Level 4 Agents who have Special Patrolman status can carry handcuffs and make arrests, but carry no defense weapons. I am not to familiar with the SSA's with Peace Officer status, but I would guess that they too carry no defense weapon.

NYPD Auxiliary Police Officers, as said by ShRiGaWiGa, are trained as "Peace Officers" since part of what Auxiliary Police Officers do requires Peace Officer training and Peace Officer status. Auxiliary Police Officers have Part Time Peace Officer status, and are certified by NYS DCJS as Part Time Peace Officers Without Firearms training. I personally have never heard of the rule about getting clearance from your Command's Regular C.O., Borough HQ Coordinator, or Command's Coordinator in order to handle non-hazardous jobs. I know many AMOS who handle all kinds of calls, from car accidents to disputes to fights to aided's.

[PAC084]

NYPD Auxiliary are used on a command by command basis. Some commands use Auxiliary as "assistant" police. Some wish that they would fade away. It all depends where you are assigned.

[NYCTNT]

umm.. are you a cop?

I doubt it. If you were you would know that SSA's do attend some PA acadamics and whatnot(seperate from recruits).

They are ALL peace officers with special patrolman designation.

As far as TEA's. I can care less.

Know what you are speaking about, prior to speaking.

The only reason I am replying to you is because of bad information.

[ImportInvasion]

Just to confirm what NYCTNT said above. ALL NYPD SSA‘s are full time peace officers both on and off duty. Not only do we respond to radio calls occuring in our schools, but can also take action on pickup jobs throughout the five boroughs. Our sirens are a neccessity and come into play almost everyday. Also be aware that we have real v style lightbars and transport our perps daily in these vehicles. As for auxiliary, be advised that prior to becoming an ssa, I was an auxiliary for two years. You guys do an incredible service to the city and do arrive or get caught up in jobs. Lights and sirens is a must for you too. Its a shame if they take that from you. I feel that if you are in a police title you need a police car, simple as that. Now traffic on the other hand does not arrest nor respond to jobs, which is why they all get the slimline lightbars. Trust me its not accident that they do not get real lights. Just my two cents.

[NYCAPO]

Just to confirm what NYCTNT said above. ALL NYPD SSA‘s are full time peace officers both on and off duty. Not only do we respond to radio calls occuring in our schools, but can also take action on pickup jobs throughout the five boroughs. Our sirens are a neccessity and come into play almost everyday. Also be aware that we have real v style lightbars and transport our perps daily in these vehicles. As for auxiliary, be advised that prior to becoming an ssa, I was an auxiliary for two years. You guys do an incredible service to the city and do arrive or get caught up in jobs. Lights and sirens is a must for you too. Its a shame if they take that from you. I feel that if you are in a police title you need a police car, simple as that. Now traffic on the other hand does not arrest nor respond to jobs, which is why they all get the slimline lightbars. Trust me its not accident that they do not get real lights. Just my two cents.

Thank you for clarifying that. The SSA's I have met are absolutely great. They are very friendly and extremly professional. I am glad to hear that you are now getting the V shaped lightbars. I absolutely love them. As for Auxiliary RMP's, FSD already has removed the sirens from numerous RMP's from different Commands. Traffic Enforcement does nothing as far as enforcing or upholding the law, and they dont have Peace or Police status. They should have amber lightbars with the directionals. Thats it. Now the slimline lightbars they have now arent as good as the V shaped lightbars. I remember when they used to use the same lightbars School Safety RMP's had, and it was nearly impossible to distinguish themselves from you guys. I think thats why the department switched the lightbars.

[bladez718]

all i can say is,, APO is a good volunteer job to do. U get experience, and if u want to join some arm guard job or corporate security security job, u can use that in your resume or reference. As far as the 10-13 and 10-85. THE RADiO will save you. In which Im sure all APO got. If i had a choice bet my gun and radio, i would choose the radio. With the radio, you got the biggest gang in new york comming your way. AND THEY COME fast.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

School Safety Agents are awesome. 2 cops that I have worked with were X-School Safety. It is a much better job than Traffic. Traffic Level 1 is being a "ticket giver" while level 2 is "traffic director". One other cop that I work with is an X-Traffic Enforcement Agent. He bangs out summons' like nothing... He was the one that informed me that Special Patrolman designation required additional training.

All uniformed Police members (ie. Auxiliary PO's, School Safety, Traffic) need sirens. It only makes their duties more effective. The only thing that would screw it up for everyone are "BUFF's" that abuse the sirens.

[NYCTNT]

traffic does NOT need sirens.

What traffic condition do you know about that requires lights and sirens to direct?

If I was the boss.. I would just give them the vans to drop the TEA's off and pick them up. There is no real legitimate purpose for all of the RMP's they have.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

traffic does NOT need sirens.

What traffic condition do you know about that requires lights and sirens to direct?

If I was the boss.. I would just give them the vans to drop the TEA's off and pick them up. There is no real legitimate purpose for all of the RMP's they have.

I see what you mean but if you live in Manhattan, and see the rush hour traffic made worse by double/illegally parked cars - the siren will certainly ensure traffic movement. Traffic's (TEA) job is to keep all NYC vehicle traffic as smooth as possible. Hearing a siren to move you from parking illegally will keep you alert and aware not to do so. In regards to Traffic's job, sometimes they can be a bit rough with the summonsing and towing but in the end we should remember that the NYPD is a family and we should learn to cope with one another.

[NYCTNT]

ok. hook up a ferry horn to their rmp's. not sirens.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

There's a photo of it on Flickr. It looks funny as a marked RMP. The dept. should have either politely refused it, or made it into a replacement vehicle.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronnyg/2183820317/

I think the uniform guys that are getting in the car are regulars PO's. Check out the side-arm.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

NYPD Auxiliary are used on a command by command basis. Some commands use Auxiliary as "assistant" police. Some wish that they would fade away. It all depends where you are assigned.

Exactly!

[NYPDtoGrey]

Well in regards to School Safety Agents and Traffic Agents - not all of them are Peace Officers. The SSA's and TA's can be identified as Peace Officers by an 'obtuse angle' stripe on the bottom of their patches which reads "Special Patrolman". Not all School Safety and Traffic Agents are "Special Patrolman" unless they go through an additional peace officer training course - therefore, not all of them are Peace Officers.

NYPD Auxiliary Police Officers are trained as "Peace Officers" in their training course but are allowed limited function status unless activated by the NY State, Mayor, and/or Police Commissioner. In the meantime, NYPD Aux. Police Officers are allowed to respond to non-hazardous jobs if cleared by their command's regular C.O., Borough HQ Coordinator, or their Command's Coordinator.

Completely wrong. NYPD Aux are not trained as "peace officers." According to the CPL 2.10 sub 26 they are very limited in status.

26. Peace officers designated pursuant to the provisions of the New
York state defense emergency act, as set forth in chapter seven hundred
eighty-four of the laws of nineteen hundred fifty-one, as amended, when
acting pursuant to their special duties during a period of attack or
imminent attack by enemy forces, or during official drills called to
combat natural or man-made disasters, or during official drills in prep-
aration for an attack by enemy forces or in preparation for a natural or
man-made disaster; provided, however, that nothing in this subdivision
shall be deemed to authorize such officer to carry, possess, repair or
dispose of a firearm unless the appropriate license therefor has been
issued pursuant to section 400.00 of the penal law; and provided
further, that such officer shall have the powers set forth in section
2.20 of this article only during a period of imminent or actual attack
by enemy forces and during drills authorized under section twenty-nine-b
of article two-B of the executive law, providing for the use of civil
defense forces in disasters. Notwithstanding any other provision of law,
such officers shall have the power to direct and control traffic during
official drills in preparation for an attack by enemy forces or in prep-
aration for combating natural or man-made disasters; however, this grant
does not include any of the other powers set forth in section 2.20 of
this article.

[NYCTNT]

just to clarify.. section 2.10 is the whole list of peace officers/agencies in nys.

[NYCAPO]

just to clarify.. section 2.10 is the whole list of peace officers/agencies in nys.

I found a link to it for anyone to read.

http://ypdcrime.com/cpl/article2.htm

[NYCAPO]

all i can say is,, APO is a good volunteer job to do. U get experience, and if u want to join some arm guard job or corporate security security job, u can use that in your resume or reference. As far as the 10-13 and 10-85. THE RADiO will save you. In which Im sure all APO got. If i had a choice bet my gun and radio, i would choose the radio. With the radio, you got the biggest gang in new york comming your way. AND THEY COME fast.

I agree with your post. Being a A/PO is a great way to volunteer your time. You get to help out the citizens of your city, and you get to work with NYC's finest. Thats a true honor. I personally know a few AMOS who applied to various security jobs in NYC and they got hired over other applicants b/c of their experience as a A/PO. The radio definitately is a A/PO's most powerful weapon on the streets. The problem is not all A/PO's know how to use the radio, and in some Commands, they are told to stay off the radio and use a cellphone/payphone to contact dispatch and the Command. Even the APBA President knows this, as he has said this in a Daily News article. "Hyland said most auxiliary cops are discouraged from using their radios and are told by supervisors to use cell or pay phones. "It's really scary when you think about it, and the radio is their lifeline there, no doubt about it," he said."

Obviously if I had to choose between a gun and a radio, I would choose the radio, HOWEVER A/PO's need the option of the gun to protect themselves in the situation that the need it. Thats why I say improve training, toughen backround checks, and give them the same weapons training as regular cops. What would be the best is a tiered system which is what the LAPD Reserve's Program has.

[NYCTNT]

The thing is..

In LA(LAPD) reserve officer program, their reserves are trained at different levels and eventually get full police status. They have reserves with no guns, reserves with guns and some reserves with security clearance working in the property rooms...etc.

Personally, I wont bitch if they made the AUX program like the LAPD with a strict set of rules.

Many will call you guys scabs, taking money away from the cops that take home a check and do not have the luxury to have a full time job as a Dentist, attorney or some other $$$ job.

Its bad enough cops already to that to you guys at details.

I make my money and know how to make it. Others rely on parade details.

[NYCAPO]

The thing is..

In LA(LAPD) reserve officer program, their reserves are trained at different levels and eventually get full police status. They have reserves with no guns, reserves with guns and some reserves with security clearance working in the property rooms...etc.

Personally, I wont bitch if they made the AUX program like the LAPD with a strict set of rules.

Many will call you guys scabs, taking money away from the cops that take home a check and do not have the luxury to have a full time job as a Dentist, attorney or some other $$$ job.

Its bad enough cops already to that to you guys at details.

I make my money and know how to make it. Others rely on parade details.

Correct. The LAPD Reserves has 3 tier levels for uniformed officers and a level for Specialist Officers, who are non-uniformed, unarmed, and dont do any patrol work whatsoever. Level 3 officers are the least trained, and do "limited support duties", such as working at the front desk, YET these officers go through over 200 hours of classroom and physical training(more than 4 times as much training as NYPD Auxiliaries go through).

You can read about the different tier level officers at the following links:
LEVEL 3 - http://www.joinlapdreserves.com/reserve_levels_3.html
LEVEL 2 - http://www.joinlapdreserves.com/reserve_levels_2.html
LEVEL 1 - http://www.joinlapdreserves.com/reserve_levels_1.html
SPECIALISTS - http://www.joinlapdreserves.com/reserve_levels_special.html

There are also a few requirements to join the LAPD Reserves that we dont have, including the requirement that you must have a high school diploma or its equivalent. If the NYPD Auxiliary had that requirement, I would expect alot of AMOS to be weeded out. They also have very tough backround checks.

QUALIFICATIONS - http://www.joinlapdreserves.com/join_qualifications.html

The armed Reserves in the LAPD must go through the same firearms training as full time officers, and use the same weapons as full time officers, including the shotguns.

Their RMP's are the same RMP's used by regular officers. They are the same color, and dont have ANY decals saying 'RESERVE' or 'VOLUNTEER'.

They also have numerous Specialized Units:
• Bomb Squad
• Metropolitan Division
• Fugitives
• Air Support
• Recruitment
• Motorcycle Detail
• Bicycle Detail
• Vice Details
• Narcotics
• Traffic
• Detective Operations
• Scientific Investigation Division
• Firearms
• Academy Training

NYPD Auxiliary Officers can only dream of being members of half of those Specialized Units.

Many will call you guys scabs, taking money away from the cops that take home a check and do not have the luxury to have a full time job as a Dentist, attorney or some other $$$ job.

Believe me, Auxiliaries dont want to take away money or overtime opportunities from MOS. During the 1975 Fiscal Crisis, when the City was laying off cops, most AMOS didnt patrol. They refused to patrol until the city rehired the officers they laid off. In addition, if memory serves me correctly, a bill was put forward at that time to arm A/PO's. The APBA, the PBA, and most AMOS attacked the bill, and it wasnt passed or was dropped. If that bill had passed, A/PO's very possibly could still be armed today.


The fact is the NYPD Auxiliary Police has horrible management, minimal standards, training, and equipment, and Auxiliary officers want a decent Program to be members of. Major changes must be made in order to better the Program.

You can see a video on the LAPD Reserves at the following link. Its a great video.
http://www.joinlapdreserves.com/webisode2_qt_lg.html

[Zero4749]

The radio definitately is a A/PO's most powerful weapon on the streets. The problem is not all A/PO's know how to use the radio, and in some Commands, they are told to stay off the radio and use a cellphone/payphone to contact dispatch and the Command. Even the APBA President knows this, as he has said this in a Daily News article. "Hyland said most auxiliary cops are discouraged from using their radios and are told by supervisors to use cell or pay phones. "It's really scary when you think about it, and the radio is their lifeline there, no doubt about it," he said."

I agree. I'm a APO recruit and I was taught to use a cell phone or have change for a pay phone. Its kind of stupid to waste time dialing the precinct if you already have an instant radio that is connected with them.

[NYCTNT]

Well...

SO MUCH FOR A CENTRALIZED and ORGANIZED training unit!

[NYCAPO]

I agree. I'm a APO recruit and I was taught to use a cell phone or have change for a pay phone. Its kind of stupid to waste time dialing the precinct if you already have an instant radio that is connected with them.

I really hope you dont listen to them and use the radio if you know how. They have some nerve telling their recruits not to use the radio.

But its not only the waste of time that you use dialing the precinct. Its also an officer safety issue. What if your walking on patrol and all of a sudden a EDP attacks you. How are you going to call for help if you dont know how to use the radio? Tell the EDP to hold on while you run to a payphone to tell dispatch you have a 85 forthwith? These instructors keep forgeting that A/PO's wear identical uniforms to regular MOS, and that makes them targets out there.

[NYCAPO]

I'm a APO recruit and they told us in the academy that the daily news article is crap and we should ALWAYS use our radios, and that it is our lifeline.

Unfortunately, the Daily News article isnt crap because some Commands really do tell their A/PO's to stay off the radio. Your instructors are doing the right thing by telling you to use the radios, but not all instructors are as smart as yours are.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

Unfortunately, the NYPD doesn't care so much for its regular PO's, so why would they make it a priority to care for Auxiliary PO's.

For the federal Gov't to deny Nicholas' and Eugene's family federal financial aid is a slap in the face to all Auxiliary PO's. An Auxiliary Police Officer's sense of DUTY comes from the heart. I mean come one now... these brave souls threw on a POLICE Uniform, NOT a sanitation uniform, NOT a postal uniform, BUT a POLICE Uniform. They perform a Police Duty, to selflessly serve humanity as volunteer NYPD Officials (YES, having an NYPD Shield and ID and conducting police patrol - volunteer or not, makes you an OFFICIAL no matter what anybody says). It is VERY thankless on the government's part to not give anything to their families who are now without their sons. They are basically saying "You Are Not That Important or Special--We just used you."

Although much more can be done, I would like to commend NYPD Commish. Ray Kelly and NY Sen., Chuck Schumer for their efforts in getting fed. aid for the families. It is the least they can do.

Let us give our support to their families who have gone through so much this passed year.

GOD BLESS ALL POLICE OFFICERS AND AUXILIARY/RESERVE POLICE OFFICERS!

[NYCTNT]

If you guys havent figured out that everything is a contradiction.. you guys are in deep deep deeeeeep trouble.

Do you think some of these instructors really care?

This is probably from past experiences, like myself, having to run to a 85 because an AUX came screaming over the radio he was chasing someone.

He was chasing someone during a gun-run job, but had nothing to do with the gun-run. This caused all cops to drop the real gun-run(where the perp really was) and go where the AUX was yelling at/in pursuit or unk perp which we all believed was the gun-run job due to the AUX not answering back on his radio after central kept asking if this is one in the same. Oh well.

This is not saying some cops dont do stupid things as above, as they do. Its like telling cops in the academy that when they graduate, they should use a pay phone as well.

Train them more on the radio and teach them how to use it properly. You will not have a problem then.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

If you guys havent figured out that everything is a contradiction.. you guys are in deep deep deeeeeep trouble.

Do you think some of these instructors really care?

This is probably from past experiences, like myself, having to run to a 85 because an AUX came screaming over the radio he was chasing someone.

He was chasing someone during a gun-run job, but had nothing to do with the gun-run. This caused all cops to drop the real gun-run(where the perp really was) and go where the AUX was yelling at/in pursuit or unk perp which we all believed was the gun-run job due to the AUX not answering back on his radio after central kept asking if this is one in the same. Oh well.

This is not saying some cops dont do stupid things as above, as they do. Its like telling cops in the academy that when they graduate, they should use a pay phone as well.

Train them more on the radio and teach them how to use it properly. You will not have a problem then.

Agreed! And get rid of the EDP's!

[WM40]

DC has a tiered reserve program as well. It's a good idea, but once you get into the more in depth screening and then training, very few volunteers stick around. I understand there are very few armed reserve officers in DC, but quite a few unarmed ones. Part of the problem with the armed reserve officers is they have no continuity. They are not around every day to know what's going on and they aren't around often enough to build rapport with other officers, unless they really volunteer on a near full time basis. They are also required to accompany officers who normally would patrol alone and for some full time officers that might be undesirable.

I do get the sense that in New York APOs are more tolerated as "buffies" as a sort of a community relations effort rather than seen by the NYPD as an actual resource. That could be a mistake, but I've also met a few APOs who were sort of like "buffies."

[NYCAPO]

If you guys havent figured out that everything is a contradiction.. you guys are in deep deep deeeeeep trouble.

Do you think some of these instructors really care?

This is probably from past experiences, like myself, having to run to a 85 because an AUX came screaming over the radio he was chasing someone.

He was chasing someone during a gun-run job, but had nothing to do with the gun-run. This caused all cops to drop the real gun-run(where the perp really was) and go where the AUX was yelling at/in pursuit or unk perp which we all believed was the gun-run job due to the AUX not answering back on his radio after central kept asking if this is one in the same. Oh well.

This is not saying some cops dont do stupid things as above, as they do. Its like telling cops in the academy that when they graduate, they should use a pay phone as well.

Train them more on the radio and teach them how to use it properly. You will not have a problem then.

I have a HUGE feeling that if no major changes are made now, that most if not all AMOS will go on strike and not patrol.

[zeroryde]

Did anyone see what was in the Daily News today about the feds not wanting to give the death benefits.... it makes me sick to my stomach.....

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/03/26/2008-03-26_nypd_commissioner_ray_kelly_hopes_video_.html

[NYCAPO]

Did anyone see what was in the Daily News today about the feds not wanting to give the death benefits.... it makes me sick to my stomach.....

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/03/26/2008-03-26_nypd_commissioner_ray_kelly_hopes_video_.html

Absolutely ridiculous. They should have been awarded those benefits when they first applied.

[NYCAPO]

About a week ago, I posted info on a demonstration that was being held for Auxiliary Officers by the APSBA. There is a video on Youtube of the NY1 coverage of it. Its a great video and its 100% true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FI_68fTL4Q

[MostDeaf]

So on a more mature note...

What other additions/upgrades are they allowing APO's to have besides giving vests?

[NYCAPO]

First of all, don't call me dude, dude is for someone who work in the ranch.
Yes, this is what I'm saying.
Yes, I'm a NYPD police sgt.
Yes!!!!!!
Ok, All School safety agent and traffic emforcement agents are civilian workers of NYC. They have no peace officer power at all, period. double check the nypd website to verify.
And they are not reserved for emergency, they are not the back up for the NYPD regulars.
All auxiliary police officers will be activated if there is a civil defense emergency.
Yes, I said Auxiliary Police Officers.
"In 1950, the 81st Congress of the United States of America passed the Public Law #920, entitled “The Civil Defense Act of 1950” authorizing a Federal Civil Defense Program. In 1951, the New York State Legislature enacted the “Defense Emergency Act” requiring New York City to recruit, train, and equip volunteer Auxiliary Police Officers, who would assist the police department in the event of a natural or manmade disaster or other civil defense emergency."

I double checked the NYPD site just to make sure I am giving good info. On the OFFICIAL NYPD site, for SSA's, it says "Candidates must be eligible to obtain NYC Special Patrolman status upon appointment and become certified as a NYC Special Patrolman within three (3) months of appointment. Special Patrolman certification must be maintained for the duration of employment in this title." SSA's have Special Patrolman status, which gives them Peace Officer powers. And BTW, School Safety is a Civil Service job now, and all applicants are required to take a Civil Service exam.

Traffic Enforcement Agents from Level 1-3 have no status at all(Police, Peace, Special Patrolman, etc). Level 4 Agents have Special Patrolman status, which allows them to carry handcuffs and make arrests, but they still cant carry any defense weapons(firearm, pepper spray, baton, etc).

[GhostJ]

So do SSA's carry any defense weapons? When I was in HS I remember they carry handcuffs, but I don't remember seeing they carry weapons.

[NYCAPO]

So on a more mature note...

What other additions/upgrades are they allowing APO's to have besides giving vests?

In addition to vests, the following changes have been implemented into the Auxiliary Program:

[1]Tougher Backround Checks
[2]Random Drug Testing
[3]Improved Training
[4]They Are Talking About Training All AMOS With Pepper Spray

[NYCAPO]

So do SSA's carry any defense weapons? When I was in HS I remember they carry handcuffs, but I don't remember seeing they carry weapons.

No defense weapons. They just carry cuffs.

[NYCAPO]

Just a quick update on a previous message I posted here a few weeks ago:
I had said that the department has decided to change the color of Auxiliary RMP's from dark blue with white decals to the same color as full time officer's RMP's, white with light blue decals because of the shortage of number of full time MOS.

I have an update for everyone. A very good friend of mine who is a MOS just called me and told me that he was just at FSD, and saw 3 fully marked white Auxiliary RMP's for the 100, 109, and HWY 1 Commands. It is still unknown when these RMP's will be delievered to the Commands, or if this is just a pilot program or will be done from now on in all Commands.

[Zero4749]

Next week is the Written Exam! I'm just nervous because we must get a score of 70 or higher to pass.. Theres so many materials to look at in the book they gave us. Would have been nice knowing which category the exam will focus on

[AuxWheelCop]

The exam will be on EVERYTHING. If you paid attention in class, and studied, you should have no problem passing. My goal is not to just pass--I want to ACE this exam!

[NYCAPO]

Next week is the Written Exam! I'm just nervous because we must get a score of 70 or higher to pass.. Theres so many materials to look at in the book they gave us. Would have been nice knowing which category the exam will focus on

The exam will be on EVERYTHING. If you paid attention in class, and studied, you should have no problem passing. My goal is not to just pass--I want to ACE this exam!

Good luck to the both of you, and to anyone else taking their exam next week. I cant wait to see the A/PO's graduating out of this class on the streets since they are going through a tougher training course with additional training.

[Zero4749]

I need to read the book over and over again until the materials stays in my head.

[NYCAPO]

I need to read the book over and over again until the materials stays in my head.

Study alot this week and early next week. If you have any free time, use it to study. Alot of A/Recruits come to take the exam with very little to no studying done, and they fail.

[MostDeaf]

Just a quick update on a previous message I posted here a few weeks ago:
I had said that the department has decided to change the color of Auxiliary RMP's from dark blue with white decals to the same color as full time officer's RMP's, white with light blue decals because of the shortage of number of full time MOS.

I have an update for everyone. A very good friend of mine who is a MOS just called me and told me that he was just at FSD, and saw 3 fully marked white Auxiliary RMP's for the 100, 109, and HWY 1 Commands. It is still unknown when these RMP's will be delievered to the Commands, or if this is just a pilot program or will be done from now on in all Commands.

Thats cool. I belive all Highway Aux RMPS are already white.

[PAC084]

The test is nothing to sweat at all. All you have to do is READ the question before answering and you will be fine

[NYCAPO]

Thats cool. I belive all Highway Aux RMPS are already white.

Yes, they are. Auxiliary officers in Highway Patrol currently use regular officers RMP's with a Auxiliary decal affixed to the sides of the vehicle. The problem with AMOS using regular officers vehicles is that there are never enough vehicles.

[NYCAPO]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s315/MOOOOOPS/NYPDWhiteARMP.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s315/MOOOOOPS/NYPDWhiteAuxiRMP.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s315/MOOOOOPS/NYPDWhiteAuxRMP.jpg

**Photos ARE NOT mine. They belong to jim1235: http://profiles.yahoo.com/jim1235

[GhostJ]

NYCAPO thank you for posting these photos. But I think these new Aux RMPs look really strange. :)

[NYCAPO]

NYCAPO thank you for posting these photos. But I think these new Aux RMPs look really strange. :)

I admit that they do look strange now, but once there are alot more of them on patrol, and they have been used for a few months, then they wont seem strange anymore.

[NYCAPO]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s315/MOOOOOPS/NYPDAuxiliaryPatrolRMP.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s315/MOOOOOPS/NYPDAuxiliaryWhiteRMP.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s315/MOOOOOPS/NYPDAuxiliaryWhiteCar.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s315/MOOOOOPS/NYPDAuxiliaryWhitePatrolCar.jpg

[NYSUPBK]

They Look Great

[NYCTNT]

damn, they even make it a point to underline AUXILIARY in red and make it the biggest damn decal on the car!

Looks nice tho.

[ShRiGaWiGa]

The all new NYPD Aux. RMP looks good. It looks modernized. Its perfect for the Auxiliary Police Force. With the LED Bar, it has the look of a jersey trooper car. Its about time the RMP mirrored the Regular RMP just like every other Police Department in the NY state.

[GhostJ]

The all new NYPD Aux. RMP looks good. It looks modernized. Its perfect for the Auxiliary Police Force. With the LED Bar, it has the look of a jersey trooper car. Its about time the RMP mirrored the Regular RMP just like every other Police Department in the NY state.

But doesn't traffic have these LED bar already?:confused:

[NYCAPO]

But doesn't traffic have these LED bar already?:confused:

Correct. NYPD Traffic Enforcement has these Arjent lightbars on their RMP's.

Right now, there are 3 possibilities that I can think of for why the new A/RMP's have these lightbars instead of the regular Vector lightbars:

[1]They accidentally put this one on instead of the Vector
[2]They think this lightbar will distinguish the car more from regular officers RMP's
[3]They didnt have any Vectors available for this car

I personally like both lightbars, and they both will get the job done.

[ahsanzafar8788]

Hey, Pcs when did you start the classes? And for what borough? I started in I believe end of February and we only reached chapter 10. We had two classes in which we had reviews of the previous chapters. I wish we could do two chapters a day, especially the short ones since we always leave early. Did they give you a review before the test date? And what kind of questions were on the test? Thanks in advance.

[NYCAPO]

yay i passed the written test.

physical training starts next week for us, what about you guys?

Congratulations on passing your written exam. My good friend who is currently in training actually started physical training yesterday.

[Zero4749]

I'm on my 14th week already. The physical training for brooklyn south started tuesday already

[ahsanzafar8788]

I have two questions. One, who has already started the physical training part and how is it? And two, does anyone know if auxiliaries can play on Pct. teams. I know my Pct. has a softball team. Can I join?

[AuxWheelCop]

I have two questions. One, who has already started the physical training part and how is it? And two, does anyone know if auxiliaries can play on Pct. teams. I know my Pct. has a softball team. Can I join?

My PT & T final will be this coming Wednesday. It will be administered NOT by APS, but by two regular PO's and a regular SGT. from the Police Academy Physical Training and Tactics section. We've been told to expect the full Academy(read USMC boot camp) treatment.

As far as softball, ask whomever is in charge of the team. The worst thing they can say is no.

[PTLovesMe81]

My PT & T final will be this coming Wednesday. It will be administered NOT by APS, but by two regular PO's and a regular SGT. from the Police Academy Physical Training and Tactics section. We've been told to expect the full Academy(read USMC boot camp) treatment.

As far as softball, ask whomever is in charge of the team. The worst thing they can say is no.

Don't sweat having the "full academy treatment" it's not that bad. Don't act like a complete idiot and you will be fine.

Oh, and if you wind up acting like a complete idiot despite my advice, just stand at attention, say yes sir and no sir, sorry sir where appropriate. Don't try to make up excuses for being an idiot, just apologize. :)

Good luck.

[ahsanzafar8788]

Does anyone know when we get our scores. I took the test on Thursday and it was easy. Do they call us or do we get it next class? Thanks.

[ahsanzafar8788]

Sorry double post

[NYCAPO]

Does anyone know when we get our scores. I took the test on Thursday and it was easy. Do they call us or do we get it next class? Thanks.

You probably will get your score back at next class.

[jayd87]

hey guys i got 1 more class left of my self defense training and i was wondering upon graduation what do u acquire ?
(cuffs, vests, etc..)
is the vests gonna be ours or do we just have to only use them on patrol?

[PAC084]

You will receive a uniform voucher when you take your photo for your ID card at HQ to p/u your items at 1 PP. You will have to buy additional items such as flashlight, handcuffs, cuff holder, etc.

[jayd87]

You will receive a uniform voucher when you take your photo for your ID card at HQ to p/u your items at 1 PP. You will have to buy additional items such as flashlight, handcuffs, cuff holder, etc.

ooo i see i guess its gonna be expensive i guess i gotta save that extra money now hahah

[GhostJ]

hey guys i got 1 more class left of my self defense training and i was wondering upon graduation what do u acquire ?
(cuffs, vests, etc..)
is the vests gonna be ours or do we just have to only use them on patrol?

The vests are not gonna be yours until you finish your first year, then you will receive your own vests which you can take home, and when you leave the program they will take the vest back.

By the way how does the self defense training works? Who is actually training you guys? What kind of baton do you guys train with? The wooden ones?

[ahsanzafar8788]

Has anyone finished the program yet. If not how many more classes do you guys have? And ghost our instructor is Officer G******z from the 44, two guys from HQ, and an officer from my precinct (the 52). We are being trained with the wooden baton. We just finished learning the proper way to cuff someone and frisk them.

[ahsanzafar8788]

One of the guys in my command received it in 2 weeks. The others i believe said no more than 3 week. So I'm guessing 2-3 weeks.