60 Credits..NYPD

[JayMan2006]

I know the stie says you need 60 credits but i heard that some guys went through all the processing and if i remember right even went through the academy without having all the credits... its this possible? im not sure how many they had but would the NYPD let you proceed on without having the credits?

[Mystikal]

from the NYPD site..

On or before the day of hire, candidates must have successfully completed either:
Sixty (60) college credits with a 2.0 G.P.A. from an accredited college or university, or
Two (2) years of full-time, active military service in the United States Armed Forces with an honorable discharge and have a high school's diploma or its equivalent.

so if these guys were ex military and did at least 2 years with an honorable theoretically they shouldn't have needed the credits.

edit: and i just realized this was the new york section. damn "new posts" link. sorry if I stepped on anyones toes.

[JayMan2006]

i know that .. but they werent ex military

[karn101]

You are able to proceed up until the day before the academy without the 60 credits.

In order to actually get thru the process you must have your 60 credits with at least a 2.0 GPA before they allow you to begin the academy. I've been thru it before in 05 and this is how it was and to the best of my knowledge, still is.

So basically, you can do your physical, medical, psych, background, interview, and all the other testing and paperwork before you have your 60 credits, but you wont be able to go beyond that without them.

You're friends could not have entered the academy without the 60 credits.

[Kafziel]

I'm in the process right now, and they seem to be pretty strict. I'm not 100% on what's required because I have more than 60 credits and 4 years military so it hasn't been an issue for me, but I think they're pretty serious about it. They do offer ways to get the credits you need, though.

[JayMan2006]

thanks for the input.. maybe they did something with NYPD to get the credits like you said.. idk.. i only have 43 right now.. im taking the test in June and if all goes well i should have all the credits by the end of July.. so i guess ill have to see if i can get in touch with these guys to see exactly how it went for them.. again thanks for the input..

[Kafziel]

When you take the test, they'll let you know about programs they have to get the rest of the credits you need. Also, as far as I know, you only need around 45 credits to start the process (physical, JST, psych eval, interview, etc) and you just need to have 60 credits by the time you actually go to the academy. So I think you're on the right track.

[Jayc6018]

I wouldn't be surprised, the job is dead

[karn101]

I only had 34 credits when I started the process. My investigator allowed me to take courses on the FEMA website to achieve the other 26 credits. This is called "Credit by exam".

Each credit is $60. So I ended up taking 26 exams, all online, and that is how I recieved my full 60 credits.


Here is the list of courses.
http://www.training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/IS/crslist.asp

Here is where you can receive your credits as college credit.
http://www.emergencymanagementstudy.com/content/FCC.asp

This is all accepted by the NYPD.

[JohnDoe61]

will they bust ur balls if u did fall below a gpa of 2.0 f0r a semester but got it back up? i fell below last semester due to injuries. hope this will not effect me. btw u dont necessarily need a degree just 60 credits of watever? sorry to threadjack =)

[Kafziel]

No degree needed, just the credits. I don't know about the GPA thing, but from what I've seen so far, they bust your balls about everything.

[karn101]

will they bust ur balls if u did fall below a gpa of 2.0 f0r a semester but got it back up? i fell below last semester due to injuries. hope this will not effect me. btw u dont necessarily need a degree just 60 credits of watever? sorry to threadjack =)

Its your cumulative GPA of all your credits. Not a GPA of just one semester. And yes, you just need the credits, not a degree.

[SDC1983]

It's just amazing to me that a job that's hurting so much for new recruits even has a 60 credit requirement to begin with. Especially when their much higher paying long island neighbors don't. Nassau requires 32 while Suffolk doesn't require any. I would take the NYPD test tomorrow if it wasn't for the college requirements.

[JohnDoe61]

it doesnt take much to get 60 college credits. Nowadays you need atleast an associates to get a decent job.

[RomanArts]

JOHN DOE its not the point of whether it takes much to get 60 credits its the point of why do u actually need the 60 credits. I mean if you look at suffolk pd or whiteplains pd or even the west coast midwest, etc. about 80% of those departments do not require anything but high school diploma or a GED. What is the actual reason behind this and most of the parts of the country I just listed are actually paying double of what NYPD starts you of with. That their biggest mistake. I am sure that you can be a good cop without the 60 credits there are a lot of people out there who can be good candidates and become great cops without the credits.

[DOAcop38]

its simple ...so they can say they have cops with college education. Its all political publicity bullsheet.

Ditto that- Politicians( people voted into office to fix crap) have concluded that American workers with only H.S. degrees are dummies -even though the vast majority have H.S. degrees and perform a myriad of jobs to keep this country running,and tend to vote for those very same politicians.Several job finder websites,like Monster.com ,classify police work and security in one lump and often describe it as "not requiring" alot of intelligence or skill- funny that ,huh???? funny but the City I work for is busting its chops to get the ideal candidate- not a tough ,quick thinking ,and brave individual,but a book WORM- and many of those book worms "don't like touching nasty bums" or fighting anyone for that matter......(WTF does someone with a chemical engineering degree have in common with making a felony veh.stop at 2am in the morning on some rollin' 60s crips???)

[Back to NYC]

Agreed...way too much emphasis is placed on having a college degree, and the result has been college being watered down so more people can get a degree. In the end, the degree you get is worth less than it used to be. Today's BA/BS is yesterday's high school diploma, and a lot of people look at trade school as a sign of failure. As for apprenticeships (like the way my dad - a high school dropout at age 16 - learned how to be a chef and run restaurants), forget about it. No such thing anymore, it seems like. People equate degrees with brains, sadly.

There just aren't many "self-made men" out there anymore, because employers won't look at you if you haven't spent four years in that overblown extension to adolescence we call college. People pass tests instead of getting real-life experience, and so we end up with people with advanced degrees who can't change a tire.

Asking for 60 credits is a little bit silly. I have a BA and an MS, but I don't think that's going to help me much as a member of the NYPD.

[SDC1983]

Im taking some of those right now and there pretty good. Just a little bit of a pain in the asss to finish up. I did like 20 or so and need like 10 more. I need to hurry it up!:eek:

How long does it take? There's a walk in NYPD test tomorrow afternoon in Nassau I'm thinking about taking but when this semester is over I'll only have something like 22 credits. Sorta seems like a waste of time as it'll take awhile to get all those other credits cause' I'm just a part-time student.

I still stand on the opinion that the credit requirement is a complete joke to begin with, but no use in cryin' over spilt milk since it appears to be here to stay.

[Kycop28]

I cant believe the expect someone to waste their time on 60 hours when they don't pay crap.

[dont h8 dre]

My question is can i get 44 credits from FEMA to go along with my 16 credits i have currently.

[dont h8 dre]

Thanks for the fast response. I guess i will be in one academy next year. I am taking the test for the Suffolk County PD. If things gooo wrong with that i will use the NYPD as my fall back.

[Marxdaman29]

I don't think Fema has 44 credits on there. I did them all and it's 41.

[b1lov]

Im having a hard time.

[danperez]

I've counted more than 41 on their website. Close to 60 if you take part I and II's.

[DOAcop38]

I know the stie says you need 60 credits but i heard that some guys went through all the processing and if i remember right even went through the academy without having all the credits... its this possible? im not sure how many they had but would the NYPD let you proceed on without having the credits?

Come west,young man,come west- the Difference? You only get in with 60 college units /credits at NYPD (pay scale of $26K to $59k in five yrs) compared to LAPD and its other sub depts,where the pay scale is #$55K to $78K/in 5 yrs (current top is $89K/yr before longevity pay,special assignment pay,promotional pay) plus with an AA/AS degree you can get a pay step advancement= to 5% above starting pay. check it out www.lacity.org

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[Marxdaman29]

I've counted more than 41 on their website. Close to 60 if you take part I and II's.

Where did you count more than 41? Paste the Link to those exams that you speak of.

[Vincent]

I know the stie says you need 60 credits but i heard that some guys went through all the processing and if i remember right even went through the academy without having all the credits... its this possible? im not sure how many they had but would the NYPD let you proceed on without having the credits?
I have all my 60 credits but my GPA was below a 2.0 because of a few F's. I had to go through excelisiors college to take care of it. They combine all of ur credits on to their transcript and take away any F's and W's that are on your original transcrpts that will lower your GPA. If you dont have any F's but you have any D's they will take away the grade plus the credit to increase your GPA. I havent gotten the final transcript back but I am hoping they dont need to touch my credits because my investigator told me a day before all my paper work needed to be handed in to take care of this. The fee is over $300 to complete. I hope this doesnt hold me from starting July 9th which is the start date for the July 07 Academy. Anyone have questions just hit me up and I will explain what I know about the program. Its called the credit bank program.

[RodFarva]

I am taking the FEMA tests now but the cost associated with translating them into credits is a concern especially considering the beginning pay I'm looking forward to. Not to mention having to pay for your own equipment and my existing bills... Anyway, I was really hoping that the 29 credits you are eligable for when you complete the academy can be used toward the 60 credit minimum.

Receive up to 29 college credits for your police academy training toward your degree. Several colleges in the metropolitan area accept the full amount.

And a note to anyone who is going to acquire your credits via FEMA, not all of their IS courses will earn you a credit from FCC. Check the list of accepted tests first because I already wasted my time on one thats no good.

[danperez]

Where did you count more than 41? Paste the Link to those exams that you speak of.

Marxdaman29, sorry I miss read the FEMA website. You are correct, the max credits are 41 through FEMA.
I stand corrected :)

[Ant61683]

Be carefull , not all of the tests transfer over to college credits when you go through FEMA... If you download the application to get the transcript it tells you on that page which of the tests is actually worth college credit .. I was going to do it through FEMA but when i caught on before it was to late , i stopped !!

[RodFarva]

Actually 60 bucks a credit is a bargain compared to the few hundred you would spend in a Community college including the cost of books.

I agree, $60/credit is a bargain compared to community college costs. HOWEVER in a community college you are able to apply for financial aid, grants, scholarships, etc. and as a last resort student loans. The FEMA credits must be paid in full via credit card without any of those other options. The last thing I need is more credit card bills! Maybe a minor difference, but I'm broke at the moment and doing it on my own.

[RodFarva]

Actually 60 bucks a credit is a bargain compared to the few hundred you would spend in a Community college including the cost of books.

Also, these FEMA tests are only good for acquiring "credits" to satisfy a minimum credit requirement. To apply these credits to a degree at FCC (the college which grants the credits who happen to have a degree in Emergency Management, half of which is covered by FEMA tests) you must retest on the material which I am sure (this is an assumption, I don't remember for sure) has additional costs associated. I'm not sure if any other college would accept these credits toward a degree either. An actual degree might not matter today, but it's something to consider going forward.


AAS Degree in Emergency Management (http://www.frederick.edu/programCourses/ems/index.cfm?documentid=411) consists of the following basic requirements:
37-39 General education and elective credit hours
23 FEMA/EMI IS course conversion credit hours

[dont h8 dre]

Well now there is over 50 test and all are worth 1 credit.

[JohnDoe61]

where does one get info on Fema credits? I have 62 credits but Im below the 2.0 mark, will I be able to raise the GPA through them?

[jmoy]

Does anyone know if any other police agency besides NYPD accept these fema credits to satisfy the 60 college credit requirements? Like the port authority, mta police, park police, NYSP, NCPD etc? Thanks.

[RodFarva]

Does anyone know if any other police agency besides NYPD accept these fema credits to satisfy the 60 college credit requirements? Like the port authority, mta police, park police, NYSP, NCPD etc? Thanks.

Once you turn them into real "college credits" through Fredrick Community College, I don't see why anyone wouldn't accept them. The courses FEMA offers are part of Fredrick's Emergency Management degree program.

[Justice71]

Personally i prefer the route of getting a degree at my CC. Why only get 60 when you can get 65 (my degree req), and have an actual degree. I also have no intentions of applying at NYC, as the pay is much too low for the cost of living down there. I know the job isnt about money, but money is required to eat and live.

[RodFarva]

Personally i prefer the route of getting a degree at my CC. Why only get 60 when you can get 65 (my degree req), and have an actual degree. I also have no intentions of applying at NYC, as the pay is much too low for the cost of living down there. I know the job isnt about money, but money is required to eat and live.

If you can get 60 fast credits and get on the job faster you will be earning money sooner. Plus once you are on the job they will help pay for you to finish your degree.

Undergraduate Studies:
71 scholarships to schools in New York City, SUNY Albany and Harvard
7 Colleges offer tuition reduction programs

http://www.nypd2.org/html/recruit/educational.html

Also like I said, if you pair these FEMA tests with general classes FCC will give you a degree as well.

[jmoy]

Once you turn them into real "college credits" through Fredrick Community College, I don't see why anyone wouldn't accept them. The courses FEMA offers are part of Fredrick's Emergency Management degree program.

Thanks for your reply Rod. Now I hope to do well on the port authority and the nyspp exams.