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radar
09-27-2000, 10:30 PM
Without doing a thesis (keep it simple) how do other depts qualify with handgun. My current small dept does a 30 round day and nite at 3, 7, 15 and 25 yards. Currently we do it once a year.

Don
09-27-2000, 11:53 PM
Quarterly.

tcsd1236
09-28-2000, 12:32 AM
Semi-annual out to 25 yds.

JKT
09-28-2000, 02:07 PM
Twice per year, 1 day, 1 night. 3,5,7,15,25 yd lines. 50 rounds.

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Good luck and be safe

Jack

Don
09-28-2000, 04:41 PM
Radar,

Hope these answers are simple enough for you. http://www.officer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

radar
09-29-2000, 09:59 PM
Yes Don I think I stepped in it. Just did not want anyone getting writers cramp and I sure accomplished that.

Dukeboy01
09-30-2000, 07:24 PM
We qualify four times a year, from the 3, 7, 15, and 20 yard lines. One of the qualification courses is a night qualification. One is an off-duty weapon and shotgun qualification. One of 'em is a "duty ammo qualification" in which we shoot up all our old duty ammo and get new boxes. The last one is done during yearly 40 hour in-service.

Do I get extra points for being giving a thesis? http://www.officer.com/ubb/smile.gif

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JKT
10-01-2000, 03:21 AM
Oops, forgot off-duty and long gun qualifications annually. http://www.officer.com/ubb/redface.gif

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Good luck and be safe

Jack

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radar
10-01-2000, 09:27 PM
Yes Dukeboy you get extra credit, by the way do you work near Duke?

joepicar
10-02-2000, 01:27 PM
In Massachusetts it is recommended that you qualify 3 times per year (once under dim light conditions). We shoot quarterly with one done under dim light conditions. Distances are 3-5-710-15 yards.

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Joe Picariello
Princeton (MA) PD
MLEFI&AA manual editor

Dukeboy01
10-02-2000, 02:17 PM
No, "Dukeboy" is a reference to my collection of Dukes of Hazzard memorabelia. And also to the numerous crashes I had driving the county's police cars my first year on the street. After one of my more spectacular wrecks, a supervisor suggested I should drive "more like the Duke boys, less like Roscoe."

Don
10-02-2000, 05:27 PM
Radar,

The last department I worked for did quarterly qualification, but the range was available monthly and we were encouraged to shoot as often as possible. Standard police range, ie: punching holes in paper from 7, 15, 25 & 50. 50 rounds. We did use DUTY ammo at all practices.

We did long gun, shotgun, off duty, and night shoots twice a year.

There were no provisions for any variation from the standard form. In other words, no

Glockarmorer
10-02-2000, 11:20 PM
My department has firearms training quarterly. We only shoot a "qualification" once a year. This is a typical KD course firing a fixed number of rounds from known distances and prescribed positions. Not exactly real world training, but we have to put something in the training jacket that shows a score to determine you can hit with a pistol.

The other three times a year are dedicated to actual training. We just completed quarterly training last week which consisted of a tactical shotgun course in the morning and a tactical pistol course in the afternoon. The course utilized moving paper targets as well as steel targets. Shooting on the move, reloading from cover, and firing from various positions of cover were all emphasized. Its a lot more fun than "With a fully loaded magazine, lock and load. Is the line ready on the right, is the line ready on the left? etc etc" And will be of much more value if/when the **** hits the fan!

G.A.

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No cops, know anarchy.

G30man
10-02-2000, 11:46 PM
Anually with garbage ammo. Makes ya feel good, dont it http://www.officer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
50 round qual, 3,5,7,15 and 25 yards.

radar
10-03-2000, 10:05 PM
I read 1 mention of low light shooting, we have to qualify day and nite. The nite stuff is total dark from 3 and 7 yards with bluelites at 15 and headlights at 25. Do most of you do a similar nite drill.

Sparky
10-07-2000, 06:03 PM
Around my neck of the woods, we only train in the rain.

Any similar experiences out there??

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-Sparky

Goodform
10-08-2000, 12:04 PM
3 times a year at least.
Sig Pro 9mm - on timed exposures at 7,10,15 and 20 metres.
MP5 9mm at 15,20,25 metres
H&K G36 at 100metres.

awf
10-10-2000, 10:37 AM
We qualify twice a year. 3ft. 5yds. 7yds. 15yds. 25yds. and 50 yds. We shoot center mass and head shots both. It is a 20 rd. course with time limits of as short as 3 seconds to 8 seconds depending on the distance. We shoot standing, high kneeling, and low kneeling from cover support and cover only positions. Unfortunately my dept. does not require night qualifications. They do have training shoots at night with, without lights but always a flashlight. By the way a trend has developed. Night shift guys who have been on nights for a while shoot better in the dark than in the daylight.

MSchelling
10-10-2000, 04:23 PM
Finally, I get to actually brag about my department. (Doesn't happen often! http://www.officer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif )

We have monthly ranges, with at least one attendance/qualification mandated quarterly. We run the whole gammut of cover, shoot-or-don't, failure drills, Hogan's Alley, and set distances at day and nite, with pistols (duty, off-duty, and back-up), rifle, and shotgun, and transition. Those who are lucky enough have to also qualify with their MP5s, M14s, M16s, and AR15s. (Not me! http://www.officer.com/ubb/frown.gif )

Thanks to our range officers, especially the junior one, we've got great training. Somehow, they've got a tremendous budget for a *****load of ammo (we also burn up duty ammo fairly regularly).

It's beautiful, man!!! (from Taps) http://www.officer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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tcsd1236
10-10-2000, 11:37 PM
Hey MS, where you work again, and any chance of grabbing some of your range scenarios from your firearms guys?