Allutiq/Wackenhut

[Ejohnson]

I presently work at a military base doing perimeter security. We are a private security firm that the military hired. Our contract expired and another company has gotten the contract. Has anyone ever heard of Allutiq Security? I know they're based in Alaska, and Wackenhut has vested interest in them. Other than that, has anyone heard good or bad about them?
All of us are supposed to be interviewed soon to see if we will remain on the base. I hope so, I can't afford to lose a job right now.
I'm still looking for a LE position as well.

[Levine1212]

Well, I don't know much about them myself, but a friend of mine works on a base in MD and he has told me about the Allutiq guards that work there when I previously expressed interest in working there.

From what he says they are pretty squared away, but again, I have no personal interaction with them....

[topgun3131]

I have never heard about that company based out of Alaska but, I have worked for Wakenhut --- conducting Armed Security @ a Nuclear Power Plant here in the Northeast (NY). Wackenhut is pretty interesting, the Union stinks (paper union that just takes your dues) & if you are located in the South you probably will not have a union.

A bunch of us are still going to court fighting for what they promised us in the contract but they have not settled yet......nor have they paid us our gear up / gear down monies.

Needless to say Wackenhut is a bad corperation to work for.....they continously change name and contracts...they lost a Nuclear contract back in 2003 here.....Wakenhut to Group for Faulk and maybe to this new company.......Good luck....

[Bearcat357]

Allutiq Security?

Allutiq runs the LE Contract on Kwajalein Atoll along with a bunch of US GOV contracts all over the US.

They are the primary contractor for some Security Guard positions on US Military bases with Wackenhut as the sub and the one that actually manages most of the stuff.

I know a couple of people that I worked with on Kwaj that work for their Corporate HQ and they like the company a lot......

As for Wackenhut.....Wackenhut (in my experience) can be hit or miss....depending on what the project is and where it's at. They have several high paying contracts out here in the DC area (Justice, Holocaust Museum, DEA HQ) and it's a goatscrew.....management is horrible.....good ole boy system on promtions....and the guys I know that work for them are looking for other stuff because they jack with them when it comes to pay issues and they force them to work a ton of hours because everyone is leaving to go elsewhere......

If you could find out who is actually managing the contract, that would be your best bet......

[johnnyradar]

I have some friends that work for wackenhut. The pay is great but the job is boring, that was enough to deter me from applying. I have to enjoy my job to stay with it, regardless of the pay.

[Dieter122]

random question but...do you need prior LE/military experience to be hired by Wackenhut?

I am straight out of college with an international studies 4 year degree...but im guessing that wont get me anywhere = /

[Bearcat357]

random question but...do you need prior LE/military experience to be hired by Wackenhut?

I am straight out of college with an international studies 4 year degree...but im guessing that wont get me anywhere = /

Depends on the account......

They can hire folks that have nothing at all for some stuff.......or they have to hire folks that have several years of Military/Civilian LE experience for other stuff.......

[Dieter122]

Depends on the account......

They can hire folks that have nothing at all for some stuff.......or they have to hire folks that have several years of Military/Civilian LE experience for other stuff.......


id love to work high end security someday, as an armed guard....not as an unarmed guard...as it seems to be a neutered position.

just need experience first..LE or Mil

[MisterSU]

Guess this is a good spot to ask this

I was looking in to DOE positions - contracted through wackenhut - the other day. They have various different classes it seems, some as just 'guards' while some are 'security police'. Are these the folks that go to the DOE NTC? Whats the training and job like for the DOE contractors? Does that training count for anything anywhere else? I know its 'regulated' by the FLETC, but with the way that goes, who knows. Although the job postings are not local to my area, theres a nuclear power plant Ive visited a few times who has patrol boats that seem to watch over the water the plant is on. Something I wouldnt mind doing from time to time.

[njsurfer]

wackenhut is VERY VERY VERY hit or miss. It depends on what branch office you work for. I also worked for a power plant but we were basically our own security force and the only connection we had to wackenhut was our paychecks and uniforms. We never dealt with anyone from a wackenhut office or their corporation our force was totally self sustained.

As for working for wackenhut as a security guard (non power plant) its totally not regualted, some people make 15 an hour doing the same jb that someone else makes 8 for, they also bully people into overtime and tell them if they refuse to work overtime there fired. Overtime is good and all, but if i just worked 12 hours, theres no way your telling me im staying for another 8 hours or im fired. thats just my opinion on it.

[LCSD703]

Guess this is a good spot to ask this

I was looking in to DOE positions - contracted through wackenhut - the other day. They have various different classes it seems, some as just 'guards' while some are 'security police'. Are these the folks that go to the DOE NTC? Whats the training and job like for the DOE contractors? Does that training count for anything anywhere else? I know its 'regulated' by the FLETC, but with the way that goes, who knows. Although the job postings are not local to my area, theres a nuclear power plant Ive visited a few times who has patrol boats that seem to watch over the water the plant is on. Something I wouldnt mind doing from time to time.

Training for Wackenhut is held in various places. Oak Ridge, TN has its own training facility for example. The training is in no way related to FLETC as I know of. The experience may count if you stay in the security line of work. It cake walk if you are from LE or Military. Some people dont mind working for the company and some hate it. Job is boring but the money is good. I know a few people who left it to go back to LE and took the 30,000 dollar a year paycut.

[MisterSU]

Oh, alright then. I was wondering who went here then: http://www.ntc.doe.gov/BSPOT/ I always was under the impression the contractors hired for DOE Security Police positions attended the academy there. Rooting around that site, it mentions an affiliation, in one regard or another, to FLETC.

[DOEProForce]

Oh, alright then. I was wondering who went here then: http://www.ntc.doe.gov/BSPOT/ I always was under the impression the contractors hired for DOE Security Police positions attended the academy there. Rooting around that site, it mentions an affiliation, in one regard or another, to FLETC.

The DOE Protective Force Security Police Officer's attend BSPOT at NTC in New Mexico. It's a 10-12 week academy that mainly focuses on tactical training and shooting.
Depending on the DOE site, depends on what training the officer receives. Some DOE sites have SRT teams that obviously get more training. Other Security Police Officers get the 10-12 week academy. Sites also have their own training straffs that help for refresher trainings.
As far as the FLETC part...the training is NOT transferable to any other Gov't agency, however it is very good training, great shooting, and a overall good experience. I can answer a lot of questions about the Protective Force for DOE so shoot anyway if anyone has anymore

[LCSD703]

The DOE Protective Force Security Police Officer's attend BSPOT at NTC in New Mexico. It's a 10-12 week academy that mainly focuses on tactical training and shooting.
Depending on the DOE site, depends on what training the officer receives. Some DOE sites have SRT teams that obviously get more training. Other Security Police Officers get the 10-12 week academy. Sites also have their own training straffs that help for refresher trainings.
As far as the FLETC part...the training is transferable to any other Gov't agency, however it is very good training. I can answer a lot of questions about the Protective Force for DOE so shoot anyway if anyone has anymore

Someone neglected to tell me that it has anything to do with FLETC..guess I should check out the site. Just to clarify, the way I read you say it is transferable but then you say however which leads me to think typo. So it is or is not transferable? Some of the training is the same as others that I have had but some is way different than anything I have experienced. Thanks for sharing.

[DOEProForce]

It was a typo...NOT transferable...sorry about that. The NTC is only used for DOE officers for the BSPOT and SRT academies, it is not FLETC nor have FLETC certifications. Overall, DOE Protective Force is a good security gig for being non sworn police. As I said before, many of the Nuc sites have SRT teams, and the Savanah River Site has SRT, a helicopter, boat patrol, and even sworn police that work for the DOE ProForce there. I work at DOE Headquarters in DC and in Maryland. It's boring work but it's great money and good training for non sworn officers. For DOE HQ officer's they start at approx. $41,000 and once you get your TS clearance and complete NTC your at approx. $46,000-50,000 . There is usually a good amount of OT as well so plenty of money can be made.

[Tazer101]

DOE,

What locations have protective units? Any in Mississippi you know of? And do you have a link for your agency?

[topgun3131]

Well the Nuc. Site I am at providing Armed Security is "in-house" with a Teamster union.....like it was said before great $$ boring job.

[Ejohnson]

Well, I have to interview with Allutiq next week. I work at the facility already, but for the company that lost the contract. I hear the regional boss is a real jerk. We'll see how it goes with my interview. I only work part-time, so overtime won't be much of an issue with me. If they tell me to work extra or be fired, fire me baby! I'll go straight to the labor board. Hopefully, I'll work for them only a short time, just till I get my LE position.

[DOEProForce]

DOE,

What locations have protective units? Any in Mississippi you know of? And do you have a link for your agency?

All Department of Energy sites have a Protective Force...most of which are under Wackenhut and other smaller contractors...there is info on the web about Protective Forces and the Nation Training Center on the web, however the Protective Force does not have its own web site. All Protective Force officers work under the same authority which is granted from the Department of Energy and have the same training at NTC in New Mexico, just some sites get more training then others (depending on what their site has). You would have to look up if their is a DOE facility in Mississippi because I'm not sure if there is.