Iea Newark Vs. Nyc

[bigblue8081]

I applied for IEA 2005 and again early this year and playing the waiting game. I applied for both locality and wanted to know the pros and cons of them to help making a choice. Anyone w/ info let me know.

Thanks

[MidnightHeat]

I work at the NYC office, so I can comment on this office. The NYC office is a larger, much busier office with more agents than Newark. Newark is more laid back with less opportunities than NYC. There is unlimited overtime right now in NYC. Almost every IEA will meet or exceed the OT cap this year. They had to request a waiver from the OT cap from Washington, it is so out of control there. There are numerous opportunities at the NYC office, here is a breakdown:

Processing unit: this is the team responsible for receiving aliens in ICE custody which are picked up and delivered by other IEA's from the street, correctional facilities, airport, etc. They fingerprint, photograph, serve charging documents and make arrangements to transfer the detainees to other facilities. Generally 8AM-4PM with regular overtime required.

Jail unit: This team travels to Federal, state, and local correctional facilities, and accepts custody of inmates who are about to be released and have Immigration holds on them. They pedigree the individuals, inventory their property and money, and transport them to Varick St. and turn them over to Processing. This is currently 6PM-2PM, however you rarely just work 8 hours due to the unpredictible nature of dealing with other agencies and the discharging of inmates from them.

Airport unit: These IEA's pick up detainees from jails contracted out by ICE who are being deported. They escort them to the airport and turn them over to other IEA's who will be waiting for them at the airport to escort them back to their country on the airplane. Sometimes, if the alien is granted voluntary departure, they will just escort them to the gate and watch them take off. They are also responsible for executing I-200's so that the alien may be criminally prosecuted if he reenters the country. The hours vary with this duty depending on flights.

Court unit: This is very similar to the work of a court officer or bailiff. These IEA's basically watch detainees in the court penn and bring them before the Immigration Judge/Court. They also supervise the aliens attorney/consular visits and are responsible for picking up detainees from correctional facilities and transporting them to court. This is generally 4AM-12PM.

Criminal Alien Program: IEA's in this team are stationed at Rikers Island, Nassau County jail, and Sufoilk county jail. They are responsible for interviewing the inmates at the jail while they are incarcerated to determinal alienage and place Immigration detainers on Criminal Aliens incarcerated so that the jail unite may pick them up upon the expiration of their sentence. They are plain clothes and generally work 8AM-4PM Mon-Fri.

Fugitive Operations: This is the team who will go after Criminal Aliens who have been ordered deported from the United States and have absconded or failed to comply with the Order of Removal. They also go after those who have failed to appear in court for their scheduled appearence. They execute administrative and/or Criminal warrants at homes, bussinesses, etc.They will also round up any other Immigration Violators who they encounter during the course of their operations. This unit requires you to work long hours but is very good experience.

Prosecutions unit. These IEA's are reponsible for initiating Federal Criminal Charges against individuals who have illegally re-entered the United States after being deported. They work very closly with Deportation Officers and the US Attorney.

Most IEA's in NYC fly both domestically and internationally 2-3 times per month. Also Varick street is scheduled to open up as a fully functioning Immigration Detention Center in the near future and all of the detention/transport duties will be handed over to private contractors.

[bigblue8081]

Thanks for the info.
Is it possible to request any of these teams or is it assigned?
I was not aware they had a ot cap is it the same as cbp $35000.00?
How does the leap pay work i have 2 freinds who just started there bout a month or so ago they told me u can have the 25% or ot, is that true?
Also 1 of them was sent on a tdy to alabama for 45 days w/ 4 days notice does that happen often?
NYC is mostly in uniform from what i hear and no parking... or is there a parking facility for ieas
Is the Criminal Alien Program ACAP i heard that that was ieas in local police Precincts to run criminals immigration status?
Thanks

[GB0610]

MidnightHeat- Great info!

Orgianal poster-

IEA's do not get LEAP. They get AUO. The difference being, you actually have to work AUO to get paid for it. Each quarter they average your AUO worked to get the percentage of how much will be on your pay checks (ie 10% or 20%, etc.) With LEAP, its an automatic 25% that is on every pay check. As an 1811, you could work much less than 25% extra or much more, depending on the week.

And ya, ACAP is the Alien Criminal App. Program.

[CO1259]

Where did you apply to? I don't see a listing on usajobs?

[MidnightHeat]

Thanks for the info.
Is it possible to request any of these teams or is it assigned?
I was not aware they had a ot cap is it the same as cbp $35000.00?
How does the leap pay work i have 2 freinds who just started there bout a month or so ago they told me u can have the 25% or ot, is that true?
Also 1 of them was sent on a tdy to alabama for 45 days w/ 4 days notice does that happen often?
NYC is mostly in uniform from what i hear and no parking... or is there a parking facility for ieas
Is the Criminal Alien Program ACAP i heard that that was ieas in local police Precincts to run criminals immigration status?
Thanks
Generally, you are assigned to a specific team. Movement to different teams in NYC is currently being done on one year rotations for everyone. However if you want to get on to a different team you can can talk to the supervisor of that unit you want and if he likes you and your supervisor doesn't mind loosing you then they will move you. There is a $35,000 OT cap. It doesn't include per diem money from trips. Most IEA's in NYC are on 45 act OT, the CAP people and Fug Ops guys are on AUO. I know exactly the guy you are talking about who went to Alabama. I know him. There is currently a wheel for the 45 day detail to Alabama. Everyone is required to go at some point.
There is no parking available at Varick St. or 26 Federal Plaza for any low level ICE employees. Most of the IEA's and DO's take public transportation to avoid the headaches of the city.There is parking at Rikers Island, and Nassau. The ACAP/CAP people are staioned at the jails(Rikers Island, Nassau County jail, etc.)

[Bearcat357]

Where did you apply to? I don't see a listing on usajobs?

The annoucement was done well over 4-5 months ago.....

[bigblue8081]

I am currently a CBPO at JFK and I might take the IEA job I was curious what I can make a year because as a GS-11 I can make 90,000 a yr at the airport. What is the rumor about you guys getting GS-11?

[What?]

depend on your grade level but you can make more...even if u dont it wont be that big a difference.....but if youre worried about the $$$, then dont take the job..there are enough people here that are here for the $$$ and do not belong at Varick... i know i sound like a d-i-c-k but its just that Varick sucks enough as it is and we n eed officers that want to work in law enforcement and not just collect a paycheck

[What?]

i forgot to mention that II's and CBPO's arent liked by alot of the legacy DEO's, except for the upper, upper management....and if youre a CBPO, then you really will not be liked (dont worry, I like you R.D.)...and we dont like JFK CBP because they can never deliver a complete and correct A-file.....not even from the CBPO(e)'s......ive only seen one complete, correct case performed that was outstanding... his reputation is well deserved...why is your IDENT/ENFORCE always down by the way? and why cant you ink print them?....lazyness is why JFK CBP is hated at Varick....cant wait until the day i get to go to JFK to pick up a body and not take the body because of an incomplete file.....thats when im gonna make a CBPO print the body!....and if they say they have no ink pad, not to worry, i carry my own in my bag and ill bring a couple of FD-249's for good measure....cant wait

[What?]

forgot to answer the question...MidHeat is on the money.....be glad if you get NYC because we run circles around Newark......been there a few times and i can say that im not impressed...lazyness is what i saw....and a few years ago when we were detailed to Newark, we made them look so bad because management wasnt accustomed to seeing their officers come to work....as i say, work comes first, then you can chill.....NYC is a better experience...though Newark officers fly more often...to all the IEA's at Newark, sorry but its the truth, except for my bros at CCA

[floridaboy954]

Just wanted to know, do all IEA have to learn spanish and is it pretty hard to get through in FLETC. I went to FLETC for Capitol Police and now I am a deputy in FL. I am looing to get into either USMS or IEA. I am trying to get to GA can anyone give me insight? Also do you have to take a test and what is it like

[GB0610]

Just wanted to know, do all IEA have to learn spanish and is it pretty hard to get through in FLETC. I went to FLETC for Capitol Police and now I am a deputy in FL. I am looing to get into either USMS or IEA. I am trying to get to GA can anyone give me insight? Also do you have to take a test and what is it like

Test is easy. Yes, there is now a spanish add on you must pass. But it won't be the hardest thing in the world, I mean come on, you've been to FLETC before. You know that the tests there aren't rocket science. Right now there is an IEA announcement open for specific locations. Go for it.......but in my opinion, an IEA is a step down/back from being a local SO Deupty. But to each there own...

[bigblue8081]

Fugitive Operations: This is the team who will go after Criminal Aliens who have been ordered deported from the United States and have absconded or failed to comply with the Order of Removal. They also go after those who have failed to appear in court for their scheduled appearence. They execute administrative and/or Criminal warrants at homes, bussinesses, etc.They will also round up any other Immigration Violators who they encounter during the course of their operations. This unit requires you to work long hours but is very good experience.

What kind of additional training do you need to get on this team? Is it possible to be assigned to this team right out of FLETC? CBP is good money and all but I find it a little stale. I’m tired of people that live here 30 years and cant say hello in English. And the ones that tell me they live some place else and I send them in thinking they will be deferred and watch them leave 2 steps behind me with a smile. ****es me off. The agency I work for is to busy trying not to make ripples in the pond and it’s frustrating. I would like to get the ones we are trying to get rid of and get them out.

[karn101]

If you are GS-11 with CBP as a CBPO and transfer to ICE as an IEA, whose highest pay grade is GS-9, would you take a reduction in pay, or keep your salary?

Also, BigBlue, could you respond to the PM I sent you? Thanks.

[floridaboy954]

What is the process like for IEA? From the time you get interview to hire date. What does in intel? Is there an agility test? Also just for clarity. Is it spanish only in certain areas of the US you have to take it or is it for everyone? Do you have to recert like Border Patrol throughout course of career? Also I am trying to get to GA area is it possible?

Oh as a deputy sheriff, its not what all think it is. Its nice but I just tired of the bull-----. I want to get back to the feds that is where my heart is. Also are they trying to start up an Oct FLETC class?

[What?]

you can make this team after only a year on, no experience in any of the law enforcement databases, how to put a file together, or have any knowledge of imm law.... it has just happened.... point is, if you're liked then anything is possible

[MidnightHeat]

What kind of additional training do you need to get on this team? Is it possible to be assigned to this team right out of FLETC? CBP is good money and all but I find it a little stale. I’m tired of people that live here 30 years and cant say hello in English. And the ones that tell me they live some place else and I send them in thinking they will be deferred and watch them leave 2 steps behind me with a smile. ****es me off. The agency I work for is to busy trying not to make ripples in the pond and it’s frustrating. I would like to get the ones we are trying to get rid of and get them out.

All IEA's assigned to this team must complete three weeks of Fugitive Operations training at FLETC. It is possible to get on this team while you are still on probation, however most of the IEA's on this team are at least GS-9 journeymen.

[MidnightHeat]

If you are GS-11 with CBP as a CBPO and transfer to ICE as an IEA, whose highest pay grade is GS-9, would you take a reduction in pay, or keep your salary?
You will keep your salary, but not your grade.

[MidnightHeat]

What is the process like for IEA? From the time you get interview to hire date. What does in intel? Is there an agility test? Also just for clarity. Is it spanish only in certain areas of the US you have to take it or is it for everyone? Do you have to recert like Border Patrol throughout course of career? Also I am trying to get to GA area is it possible?
After the interview, you must complete a physical agility test, a medical, drug test, and background investigation. The Spanish is currently mandatory for ALL new hires. You can apply for GA, so yes it is possible.

[floridaboy954]

Is there anyone on here that is an IEA at this time? And does anyone know when they are doing the test in the south Florida area?

[manstown]

Is there anyone on here that is an IEA at this time? And does anyone know when they are doing the test in the south Florida area?


Did you read any of the posts in this thread? I could be wrong, but I think MidnightHeat said he was an IEA. And as far as the testing. Word is that on April 13, a new vacancy will come out. Keep checking USAJOBS.

[RCS]

Did you read any of the posts in this thread? I could be wrong, but I think MidnightHeat said he was an IEA. And as far as the testing. Word is that on April 13, a new vacancy will come out. Keep checking USAJOBS.



A new vacancy for the public or for status candidates?

[manstown]

Not sure. Just keep an eye out for it.

[MidnightHeat]

I just heard from a reliable source that there will be a public announcement for IEA opening on April 13. Good Luck to all.

[k9james]

I'm currently a probation officer in georgia trying to get into the immigration career field. I applied as a deportation officer status candidate but was regected due to no time in grade. I have a masters degree in Public Adminstration/Justice Adminstration. I have worked as a correctional officer and my current job as a probation officer I work with the local ICE SA out of Atl on myspace investigations of illegal gang members. my only federal experience was as a park ranger gs-0025-03/05 with the army corps of engineers can some one please help me.

[bigblue8081]

I just received a letter telling me that I will have to re-apply b/c they are killing my list as of April 6 th and i would have to re-apply April 13-23 that Bl*ws. In other news CBP may be getting coverage FY 2008
http://www.federaltimes.com/index.php?S=2656303
At least i can start my coverage now then put in for IEA again.

[qixfeet]

Got the same letter bigblue. Are you going to take the test again or reapply under your current score?

[bigblue8081]

Got the same letter bigblue. Are you going to take the test again or reapply under your current score?
Undecided leaning toward taking it again getting a better score

[JamaicanLP]

MidnightHeat, It sounds like NY is the place to be.when i applied i put down Miami as my preference.Have you heard anything about the office down there? ...from what i read in your post I want to change my geo preference to NY.There's an urgent need there correct?

[aftermath]

I know this is listed as Newark vs NYC, but was curious if anyone has any info on the Chicago office? I'm testing for Chicago in a week and was curious as to need and anything else that can be shared.

In general, how in depth is the spanish exam? I've had high school and some college spanish, but not fluent. I think that's my main concern. :D How about the physical test? Details? Thanks for any info!

:cool:

[tua]

Any info on Philly while were at it???:)

[POCHEDDAR]

Took the test again this morning and it was a cake walk. There was an AM class and a PM class figure a total of about 120. I wonder how long this time till we get our scores. Also does anyone know if the personality portion on any of these tests count as points or is it just for them to canvass candidates .

[manstown]

If you took it the first time, the same applies. 4-8 weeks for the results. And just like the first time, the last portion, the self evaluation portion, doesn't count towards the score.

[Tarchus]

I took my test in Newark for the NYC office on 5/9, got my results on 5/21. 89.9. Not sure if thats a good score for the NYC office. Also I have a question regarding credit. A few years ago I had some rough patches in my credit history due to some risky real estate ventures I had gotten into. Long story short I was able to get out the real estate ventures but not before my credit was impacted very negativley. I have since been working on it to repair it. I dont have any current deliquencies, however my score is not where it should be. Does anyone know if this would result in an automatic DQ also would I get a chance to explain my credit history to any one during the interviews or BI if I am selected?

[shawal16]

Bump bc I think this is a good read.

[ifineed2]

I'm with aftermath, any idea about the Chicago office?

[ask80]

I'm currently a probation officer in georgia trying to get into the immigration career field. I applied as a deportation officer status candidate but was regected due to no time in grade. I have a masters degree in Public Adminstration/Justice Adminstration. I have worked as a correctional officer and my current job as a probation officer I work with the local ICE SA out of Atl on myspace investigations of illegal gang members. my only federal experience was as a park ranger gs-0025-03/05 with the army corps of engineers can some one please help me.

hate to break it to you, but most DOs are former BP/IEA folks. so if you want the job you should be trying for IEA or BP. put in couple years and apply for a DO spot. you have a good resume but no immigration enforcement experience.

[emerlad]

Don't forget, this is an 07 thread..

[jhmc6922]

Any newcomers at the NYC or Newark office?