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noname
02-25-2007, 10:23 AM
This press release was announced on San Diego Fire Dept Web Page. Pretty scary, but it appears that SD Mayor Jerry Sanders plans on doing away with 3@50 for new hires in SD for police and fire. Any thoughts on how that will impact one of the lowest paid departments in socal. Here is the info.

Mayor Sanders Proposes Worst Public Safety Retirement System in County of San Diego

The City of San Diego’s initial contract offer to both Police and Firefighters contains significant changes in retirement benefits that would make San Diego’s public safety retirement system the worst in the County.

All other public safety employees at the city and county level participate in either the County’s retirement system or the PERS system. Both programs provide for public safety retirement payments to be based on an employee’s highest year of earnings. Mayor Sanders’ plan, by contrast, proposes that retirement benefits of new police officers and firefighters hired after July 1, 2007 be based on the employee’s highest three years of earnings.

In another blow to police and firefighters, Sanders has also proposed capping an employee’s maximum retirement benefit at 75%, when all other public safety employees in the county participate in a system that has, at worst, a 90% cap and at best, no cap at all.

These reductions, along with two years of no salary or health benefit increases, set up an environment for recruitment and retention problems to continue to grow in both the police and fire departments.

San Diego City Firefighters are disappointed in the proposal brought to their membership. “The math is pretty simple,” said Ron Saathoff, President of the San Diego City Firefighters. “The proposal offered by the Mayor’s office further degrades the compensation of the City’s public safety employees. This will lead to increased recruitment and retention problems as employees vote with their feet and leave for agencies that provide a competitive compensation package.”

ElDiabloJoe
02-25-2007, 11:43 AM
I fear this is the wave of the future. There will be new "Tiers" established in the coming few years wherein new hires will not receive the benefits of those currently on the job, just as there were new tiers established in the 70s and 80s that most of us currently employed missed out on.

Sandy Eggo's hiring will initially be hurt pretty badly, but as other agencies follow suit, they will once again be just as competitive (or not) as they are currently.

YMMV,

EDJ

DOAcop38
02-26-2007, 02:46 PM
Like i always say- the Democrats will pay you,but put you on a "leash", while the Republicans let you think you're "free" and take away "chow dish"- typical conservative thinking, go after those "FAT" and over paid civil servants,instead of taxing local (big) business.............

nobody33
02-26-2007, 10:48 PM
It's not going to happen. We are in negoations, they have to suggest crap like that. They also said they are going to take away our DROP which they can't legally do. They also want to make it so when we go to court we have to work the full 4 hours call back pay. hahaha whatever.

3 at 50 is the standard. The fire department may get switched to 3 at 55 though. I see that happening before the cops lose 3 at 50. It's not so much the standard in the FD's, and they can't lateral away as easy as we can.

noname
02-27-2007, 09:56 AM
nobody 33,
drop and 3@50 for currrent employees is a vested benefit and will not be taken away from them. But, new hires can no longer purchase service credits, they do not have DROP and they are no longer eligible for lifetime health benefits. Are you really sure that a new retirement plan will not be imposed on them as well? San Diego does not care about their employees and in fact blame them for all of their financial problems. I don't work for SDPD, but I follow their problems closely since any changes they make may impact the rest of the region. I will make a prediction. SDPD will get a garbage contract that will be imposed on them for the 3rd year in a row and another 200 officers will quit. Best of luck nobody 33. By the way you can get a 30% take home pay increase by transferring to nearby Chula Vista. Hahaha whatever!

hbliam
02-27-2007, 12:10 PM
I don't work for SDPD, but I follow their problems closely since any changes they make may impact the rest of the region.

A month ago you said you did. You just lateral out?