WHat ever happened to.......

[alpha1906]

Te Compton Police department? I was loking for their website and found a site that said they were in existance rom 188 to 2000. o what happened? How do you just disband a police department? Especially one in an area ike Compton?

[retired]

In 2000, the city council of Compton voted to disband the PD and contract with LASD.

[exComptonCop]

In 2000, the city council of Compton voted to disband the PD and contract with LASD.

...a movement lead by criminal, ex-Compton Mayor Omar Bradley.

[Fuzz]

Cities disbanding their police department for various reasons and contracting to local Sheriff departments is not a common event, but does happen. Imperial Beach by the Mexican Border used to have a PD but has contracted to SDSO for many years now.

[retired]

...a movement lead by criminal, ex-Compton Mayor Omar Bradley.

And the two Tuckers were not much better. ;)

[Kieth M.]

Te Compton Police department? I was loking for their website and found a site that said they were in existance rom 188 to 2000. o what happened? How do you just disband a police department? Especially one in an area ike Compton?

Wow, last time I clicked on the Compton Police website, two years after LASD had taken over policing that wunnerful little city...it had had been turned into porn website!

[DOAcop38]

Wow, last time I clicked on the Compton Police website, two years after LASD had taken over policing that wunnerful little city...it had had been turned into porn website!

LOLOLOLOL! why waste good website space??? The folks of Compton sure as heck didn't give a DAMN who policed them-and the few that could vote( those who could read and write and NOT on felony probation/parole) chose to believe a street thug and thief ( Omar " pimplife" Bradley)over the cops trying to protect them(imagine L.A. city mayor Tony "vato" hiring active WANTED gangmembers to guard city council meetings )-end result? The Compton PD,which only needed a little $$$ and at least 20 more officers got disbanded and the barebones LASD was brought in-which ,incidentally heralded "secret" invs, and more access to Compton Gov't by the FEDs and the dist Atty's office- leading to the incarceration of Bradley and several other corrupt council persons.When Compton PD disbanded,they had roughly 115 officers,but needed at least 25 more .currently LAPD patrols the city with barely (95) deputies( 20) less than the last version of compton PD-and there is NEVER a day without gunfire,bloodshed or misery-the city makes 77th div,southeast/southwest,and rampart look like paradise in comparison..........

[retired]

LOLOLOLOL! why waste good website space??? The folks of Compton sure as heck didn't give a DAMN who policed them-and the few that could vote( those who could read and write and NOT on felony probation/parole) chose to believe a street thug and thief ( Omar " pimplife" Bradley)over the cops trying to protect them(imagine L.A. city mayor Tony "vato" hiring active WANTED gangmembers to guard city council meetings )-end result? The Compton PD,which only needed a little $$$ and at least 20 more officers got disbanded and the barebones LASD was brought in-which ,incidentally heralded "secret" invs, and more access to Compton Gov't by the FEDs and the dist Atty's office- leading to the incarceration of Bradley and several other corrupt council persons.When Compton PD disbanded,they had roughly 115 officers,but needed at least 25 more .currently LAPD patrols the city with barely (95) deputies( 20) less than the last version of compton PD-and there is NEVER a day without gunfire,bloodshed or misery-the city makes 77th div,southeast/southwest,and rampart look like paradise in comparison..........

First I disagree that the LASD was "bareboned" when they took over LE services for Compton. Secondly, LAPD as you stated does not currently patrol the city, I assume that was a typo, and having worked more than one specilized unit at LASD, what "secret" investigations are you referring? Third, LASD patrols the city of Compton with 150 Deputies, not 95. ;)

[DOAcop38]

First I disagree that the LASD was "bareboned" when they took over LE services for Compton. Secondly, LAPD as you stated does not currently patrol the city, I assume that was a typo, and having worked more than one specilized unit at LASD, what "secret" investigations are you referring? Third, LASD patrols the city of Compton with 150 Deputies, not 95. ;)


"yes" it was a Typo-(meant LASD,not LAPD-LAPD couldn't survive Compton based on its internal dept politics and the sheer obstinence of its citizens) and when the LASD took over CPT- they had barely 95 Deps for several yrs- I know becuase two of my buddies were working there at the time and complained that "t-bone" (OT) was ridiculous,the station was a literally condemned wreck of a bldg for almost 3 yrs,and they complained that fielding 1 man units didn't make any since any time of day in compton-still a regular practice.Plus alot of the invs that got Bradley and several other councilmen out were aided by LASD in conjunction with current mayor,and former compton PD det eric Perrodin and the Dist Attys office.Even today,there may be 150 Deps listed at compton station, but there certainly AREN'T 150 Deps avail to patrol compton - crime would be MUCH lower there..........

[exComptonCop]

Even today,there may be 150 Deps listed at compton station, but there certainly AREN'T 150 Deps avail to patrol compton - crime would be MUCH lower there..........

The City can have 300 Deps assigned to the Compton station if they wanted. But they either can't, or won't pay for the extra man power. It's always been, and always will be, about the almighty dollar(or the lack of it) in the Hub.

[Five-0fromSoCal]

"yes" it was a Typo-(meant LASD,not LAPD-LAPD couldn't survive Compton based on its internal dept politics and the sheer obstinence of its citizens) and when the LASD took over CPT- they had barely 95 Deps for several yrs- I know becuase two of my buddies were working there at the time and complained that "t-bone" (OT) was ridiculous,the station was a literally condemned wreck of a bldg for almost 3 yrs,and they complained that fielding 1 man units didn't make any since any time of day in compton-still a regular practice.Plus alot of the invs that got Bradley and several other councilmen out were aided by LASD in conjunction with current mayor,and former compton PD det eric Perrodin and the Dist Attys office.Even today,there may be 150 Deps listed at compton station, but there certainly AREN'T 150 Deps avail to patrol compton - crime would be MUCH lower there..........

Thats about right. I was there in the beginning. City of Compton only pays for approx 95 patrol deps. Everybody else, the city gets free service or deps. Such as gang deps, narco, cops teams and every other specialized unit that is needed. It pays for a city to contract with LASD. The community would see alot more uniforms responding, as well as all the free specialized units they would get. Cities with there own depts. have deps going through their cities all the time. It all comes down to control.

[ask80]

hey i read in the news that LASD has a no foot-pursuit policy.. that sucks..

[Five-0fromSoCal]

hey i read in the news that LASD has a no foot-pursuit policy.. that sucks..


No, that is wrong. They reworded it. Everyone is reading it wrong. Wont go into the policy, but they reworded it. Stupid civialian oversight recommendation.

[beachcop05]

No, that is wrong. They reworded it. Everyone is reading it wrong. Wont go into the policy, but they reworded it. Stupid civialian oversight recommendation.


So do they still allow you guys to get into foot pursuits?

[Five-0fromSoCal]

So do they still allow you guys to get into foot pursuits?


Yes....that wont change.

[pkagel]

Isn't the old Compton Chief now in charge of Compton School district PD?

[DOAcop38]

Thats about right. I was there in the beginning. City of Compton only pays for approx 95 patrol deps. Everybody else, the city gets free service or deps. Such as gang deps, narco, cops teams and every other specialized unit that is needed. It pays for a city to contract with LASD. The community would see alot more uniforms responding, as well as all the free specialized units they would get. Cities with there own depts. have deps going through their cities all the time. It all comes down to control.

The all mighty $$$$ -what folks don't realize is that the contract allows for the liability to "spread out" all over the county contracts-lower loss factor. You probably knew dep J. "Wood" and Frank M.busy beavers in a busy town....

[DOAcop38]

No, that is wrong. They reworded it. Everyone is reading it wrong. Wont go into the policy, but they reworded it. Stupid civialian oversight recommendation.
probably safer and less chance of an OIS(but not totally),considering most patrols are still "one man" cars.....

[DOAcop38]

Isn't the old Compton Chief now in charge of Compton School district PD?

"yup",PK- it was a "pay off" (golden hand shake job)- CUSD PD pays about $40K to 52K/yr for officer (Taylor has his CPD retirement + at least $75-80K/yr Chief spot at the school dist)and got filled with the "holdouts" who didn't or wouldn't go LASD-Compton.(I think they have like 20-25 officers) No love lost bwtn CPT LASO and CUSD PD,from the "Few" ride alongs I went on -the Deps will back them but don't respect them.Supposedly Horrie Taylor and Co. didn't think the contract would last long,and that Compton PD would be reformed.Right now,it would cost the city far too much $$$ to do that.Had Compton PD had a better civilian mgm't and stronger economy,they would still be around.But since many went over to LASD,hopefully they can still serve the citizens on a stronger team.............. http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=4812

[Five-0fromSoCal]

The all mighty $$$$ -what folks don't realize is that the contract allows for the liability to "spread out" all over the county contracts-lower loss factor. You probably knew dep J. "Wood" and Frank M.busy beavers in a busy town....

Yes I do know "Wood." Good guy.

[DOAcop38]

Yes I do know "Wood." Good guy.

Dudes thinking of coming back ( as a "reserve" only- his last assignment was T/O at STARS) right now he's making $$$ in real estate ( I should start listening to him as "patrol" ain't bringin in the $$$)

[exComptonCop]

No love lost bwtn CPT LASO and CUSD PD,from the "Few" ride alongs I went on -the Deps will back them but don't respect them.

That's funny. I'm not looking to get into a ******ing match, but the Deps. assigned to Lynwood, Paramont, and Carson stations, didn't respect US either...and we were the real PO-lice. The feeling was quite mutual ;)

[Five-0fromSoCal]

That's funny. I'm not looking to get into a ******ing match, but the Deps. assigned to Lynwood, Paramont, and Carson stations, didn't respect US either...and we were the real PO-lice. The feeling was quite mutual ;)

I hear ya. Everyone has something bad to say about each agency. Comes down to backing each other when it counts. Most Ex-Cpt guys are happy of the take over. Alot of o/t and guys have moved around to different units with a shorter drive.

[retired]

That's funny. I'm not looking to get into a ******ing match, but the Deps. assigned to Lynwood, Paramont, and Carson stations, didn't respect US either...and we were the real PO-lice. The feeling was quite mutual ;)

Buddy, I worked all of those stations and DOA doesn't have a clue of how well we got alone. He never worked any of those stations let alone having worked LASD. I even worked Firestone in addition to those stations and the relationship was great. We never had a problem with Compton PD. Where he gets his experience and opinions about LASD is beyond me. :rolleyes:

[DOAcop38]

Buddy, I worked all of those stations and DOA doesn't have a clue of how well we got alone. He never worked any of those stations let alone having worked LASD. I even worked Firestone in addition to those stations and the relationship was great. We never had a problem with Compton PD. Where he gets his experience and opinions about LASD is beyond me. :rolleyes:


ahh,"retired" - the last post was from an EX compton copper as well as from a current Dep (five oh from socal) and nobodies making an issue of who likes who,.and so on. As I posted I have "friends" and numerous contacts that have been involved with the compton policing (Deps and former coppers)-both have had good and bad things to say about it-both rationally and irrationally.and having been a RESIDENT of compton in my "formulative" yrs( "ex comptoncop" remembers the "thug" Mc Donalds-"Country Al and his ilk-they unfortunatley were my nieghbors on McMillan) Compton PD didn't really like the "poaching" the Deps from Lynwood would do back in the day.and when I came on the job- in the early '90s,quite a few deps who worked gangs would pass on the "info" that intell to Compton Cops would end up in the wrong places-never saw it personally,but when you know folks and keep hearing the same thing,eh?? ( where there smoke ,theres fire).when the take over was starting ,my agency had at least 10 compton cops come over to "feel it out",but typical of inter agency bad mouthing-LAPD types laid it on about what we(my crew) are and AREN'T-once again alot of it B.S. but some real(if you believe LAPD B.S. they walk on water and do everything,while the rest of us in the city/county just stand by and "pick our noses").The good thing about where I am is that you will ultimately work with almost all of the local and county agencies(on calls,cases,follow ups, in court)- you get to meet and rub elbows,as well as get dirty from time to time with everybody-so I can and DO get the "411" on alot of stuff going on elsewhere.the issue over the compton take over by LASD was about pride.guys at Compton PD gave it their best and often more than NOT ,did a damn good job,despite "political" handicaps.If you were still on the job and ,say the county said that LAPD or CHP,or even the lowly county OPS PD were going to take a station from you becuase the board of supvs thought that THEY could do the job better", you'd be insulted too-every copper I've known-even the burn outs- still have "pride" in their badge and dept.( I remember LAPD buddies "M.Fng" the SO for taking over the MTA rail and bus patrols-to this day LAPD issued citywide orders for LAPD/LAXPD/PORTPD/LAUSDPD/LAGSDPD that makes the LASD responsible for ALL crimes/arrests/invs aboard buses in the city,NO matter what!)

One thing we can all agree on- I have NEVER seen a time when LASD will NOT respond to back anyone-not once,not ever.but I have SEEN quite a few times of LASD uniforms/supvs dissing other Depts(Monterey Park PD,Hawthorne PD,long Beach -big time,forgot that one?county Cops-"jr varsity","park guards" isn't a polite thing to call a fellow LEO ,especially in earshot,and not seriously,and Compton PD)but some of the dissing is just macho steam rolling,ego,and joking, and yes everybody does it-it only becomes a "problem" when it effects working professional relationships.......

[retired]

I have SEEN quite a few times of LASD uniforms/supvs dissing other Depts(Monterey Park PD,Hawthorne PD,long Beach -big time,forgot that one?county Cops-"jr varsity","park guards" isn't a polite thing to call a fellow LEO ,especially in earshot,and not seriously,and Compton PD)but some of the dissing is just macho steam rolling,ego,and joking, and yes everybody does it-it only becomes a "problem" when it effects working professional relationships.......


Interesting since I also worked Lynwood station, and relations with Compton PD were great! You certainly have had more contact with my department then I did. :eek: I'll agree about the occasional dissing, all agencies do that, but certainly not to the degree you speak. When and where did you have the opportunity to see and hear all the deps and supervisors dissing other agencies? And why would the supervisors do this in front of you? You also have had more contact and knowledge about other agencies in L A County than any other cop I ever knew. ;) ;) And all that contact by working at LAX. ;) :) ;)

[exComptonCop]

Buddy, I worked all of those stations and DOA doesn't have a clue of how well we got alone. He never worked any of those stations let alone having worked LASD. I even worked Firestone in addition to those stations and the relationship was great. We never had a problem with Compton PD. Where he gets his experience and opinions about LASD is beyond me. :rolleyes:

Buddy?

The DOA's assessment of the relationship between CPD and the surrounding LASO sub-stations are more accurate than you either care to admit, or are aware of. I don't know exactly how retired you are, but during the mid and late eighties, the working relationship between our respective officers/deps was strained at best. Perhaps things were different back in the day when you worked Lynwood station, but things certainly changed.

After leaving CPD, I went to work for a medium sized PD, few miles away, flanked by Norwalk, and Santa Fe Springs. And Buddy, it was like night and day. The relationship between officers of my new dept, and the surrounding sub-station deps was awesome.

I suppose the bottom line is, your Deps were there when we needed them, (always in foaming at the mouth fashion) and we were there when they needed us ;)

[retired]

Buddy?

The DOA's assessment of the relationship between CPD and the surrounding LASO sub-stations are more accurate than you either care to admit, or are aware of. I don't know exactly how retired you are, but during the mid and late eighties, the working relationship between our respective officers/deps was strained at best. Perhaps things were different back in the day when you worked Lynwood station, but things certainly changed.
)

I was at Lynwood in the late eighties and at Firestone before that. During my tenure at both stations I personally never experienced any friction with the two agencies, and I have asked a few other Deps who were there at the time, and they don't remember a problem either. In any event, it's water over the bridge and if you feel there was a problem, that's okay with me, it doesn't change my retirement. :) :)

[ElDiabloJoe]

I was at Lynwood in the late eighties and at Firestone before that. During my tenure at both stations I personally never experienced any friction with the two agencies, and I have asked a few other Deps who were there at the time, and they don't remember a problem either. In any event, it's water over the bridge and if you feel there was a problem, that's okay with me, it doesn't change my retirement. :) :)Awesome to have an old FPK dawg who was in the Triangle too. Great experience we have contributing to this forum.

EDJ

[DOAcop38]

I was at Lynwood in the late eighties and at Firestone before that. During my tenure at both stations I personally never experienced any friction with the two agencies, and I have asked a few other Deps who were there at the time, and they don't remember a problem either. In any event, it's water over the bridge and if you feel there was a problem, that's okay with me, it doesn't change my retirement. :) :)

..and you probably know alot of Deps that spurred me into L.E. when I was a kid too(Torres,Magana,Reid,and so on).and I'm not making it out like there was some kind of street brawl between depts,but when you hear verbal bashing its just that-not saying it was systematic,but we all listen to gssip and innuendo,no matter where we are( had a young Dep ask me during a drop off of an arrestee at LCMC 13th flr if we -Airport cops-went to a "full" academy,becuase she "heard" from an LAPD officer that we DON'T and that we can ONLY make Misd arrests( LOLOLOL, as if)-she ws surprised that one of our "Alt" authorized academys-in addition to LAPDs- was LASO along with Port PD.

[DOAcop38]

Interesting since I also worked Lynwood station, and relations with Compton PD were great! You certainly have had more contact with my department then I did. :eek: I'll agree about the occasional dissing, all agencies do that, but certainly not to the degree you speak. When and where did you have the opportunity to see and hear all the deps and supervisors dissing other agencies? And why would the supervisors do this in front of you? You also have had more contact and knowledge about other agencies in L A County than any other cop I ever knew. ;) ;) And all that contact by working at LAX. ;) :) ;)

give dates and times? why? suffice to say ,like I said earlier that it goes on and YOU know it( just maybe,you ,like me and others,rarely involve yourself in it).and after nearly 20 yrs at LAX,I-like alot of my co-workers-do tend to get around(just like you were not stuck in one location,we aren't exactly "stuck" ciricling that mile 1/2 circular rdwy-unless of course you actually BELIEVE that our LAPD counterparts do everything in the city(but they are way too overworked as it is,and UNFAIRLY so)-I'd expect a "retired" deputy ,once empowered to protect the citizens of the City and County,to KNOW better about that.
Add'lly-we have to play "nice" with everyone who comes thru) :rolleyes:

[DOAcop38]

having heard from BOTH sides of the coin- what does everyone think ( positively and negatively) about LASD patrolling Compton compared to say,a return of a whole "new" Compton PD by 2011?

[pkagel]

Seems LASD is doing a decent job. I've heard a lot less about Compton in the news since they took over. Now, this doesn't mean that anything has changed as I haven't ran the numbers but it's just an observation. As long as you have the same guys hitting the same streets every night then I really don't know what difference it would make except for the mayor probably has a lot less influence on how his town is policed w/ the Sheriff than he would with a Chief.

[hbliam]

Seems LASD is doing a decent job. I've heard a lot less about Compton in the news since they took over.


Get alot of Compton coverage in Texas lately? LOL...

Highest murder rate in LA County in 2005.

[retired]

give dates and times? why? suffice to say ,like I said earlier that it goes on and YOU know it( just maybe,you ,like me and others,rarely involve yourself in it).and after nearly 20 yrs at LAX,I-like alot of my co-workers-do tend to get around(just like you were not stuck in one location,we aren't exactly "stuck" ciricling that mile 1/2 circular rdwy-unless of course you actually BELIEVE that our LAPD counterparts do everything in the city(but they are way too overworked as it is,and UNFAIRLY so)-I'd expect a "retired" deputy ,once empowered to protect the citizens of the City and County,to KNOW better about that.
Add'lly-we have to play "nice" with everyone who comes thru) :rolleyes:

Suffice to say that I will make this my last comment with you. Working at LAX has provided you with more experience and LE knowledge than any cop I knew in 31 years. Crime must be awesome at LAX? :rolleyes: Especially in 2006 when you had no 187's, no 207's, and no 261's. Six 211's in 2006, and seventeen 459's. How did you manage? :rolleyes: Those cops who live out of state probably think you actually patrol the "mean streets" of Los Angeles as you said in one of your earlier posts. I wonder how much more you would talk about if you ever worked an area like 77th, Southeast, Firestone, Lynwood or Compton. Quite frankly I think you have a tendency to exaggerate your experience, which way too much for an airport cop. :rolleyes:

In any event, I have nothing else to say to you. ;)

[exComptonCop]

Suffice to say that I will make this my last comment with you. Working at LAX has provided you with more experience and LE knowledge than any cop I knew in 31 years. Crime must be awesome at LAX? :rolleyes: Especially in 2006 when you had no 187's, no 207's, and no 261's. Six 211's in 2006, and seventeen 459's. How did you manage? :rolleyes: Those cops who live out of state probably think you actually patrol the "mean streets" of Los Angeles as you said in one of your earlier posts. I wonder how much more you would talk about if you ever worked an area like 77th, Southeast, Firestone, Lynwood or Compton. Quite frankly I think you have a tendency to exaggerate your experience, which way too much for an airport cop. :rolleyes:

In any event, I have nothing else to say to you. ;)


If I did know any better retired, I'd say you were speaking to the DOAcop, in a condescending..."I've got more experience than you do" manner. Aren't we all brothers, no matter how our resume reads? This is exactly the type of thing I was talking about... :(

I rest my case Your Honor...

[pkagel]

No, but I read the hometown newspaper every day on line. I didn't say I would want to live there. I just said the news coverage of Compton hadn't been near as much since LASD took over. I just did a search for some comparable statistics but they are a bit elusive. I understand their has been quite an up tick in the murder rate but don't know if their is a corresponding up tick in other indicators to indicate something beyond some lucky shooting by gang members.

We have our own little version of Compton out here in Dallas. Problem is the whole cities crime rate gets drug down by it and gives the appearance that all of Dallas is a hole.

Get alot of Compton coverage in Texas lately? LOL...

Highest murder rate in LA County in 2005.

[DOAcop38]

Suffice to say that I will make this my last comment with you. Working at LAX has provided you with more experience and LE knowledge than any cop I knew in 31 years. Crime must be awesome at LAX? :rolleyes: Especially in 2006 when you had no 187's, no 207's, and no 261's. Six 211's in 2006, and seventeen 459's. How did you manage? :rolleyes: Those cops who live out of state probably think you actually patrol the "mean streets" of Los Angeles as you said in one of your earlier posts. I wonder how much more you would talk about if you ever worked an area like 77th, Southeast, Firestone, Lynwood or Compton. Quite frankly I think you have a tendency to exaggerate your experience, which way too much for an airport cop. :rolleyes:

In any event, I have nothing else to say to you. ;)

LOLOLOLOLOL!!! thanks for pointing out that I 1) work in a VERY safe place- love it 2) work for a very functional agency ,albiet a transportation or transit agency-yup 61 MILLION people passed through my area and NO 187s in 2006( wonder WHY the City council keeps us around and are offering to pay us 11% more soon,rather than let our LAPD brethren take over???), and the mean streets of L.A. are visible to anyone ,"retired"- citizen,visitor ,or cop( even a h.s. school buddy ,who now works Simi Valley PD laughs at the "misery" of policing "certain areas" in L.A. county)- but not ALL areas.I posted in another section about the experiences of coppers from one area to another- and usually they are different.some of us have a harder "row to hoe" and thats always the truth-but that doesnt' make you a superior cop! you can yap about all your great dope arrests ,and would probably choke if you saw a 2 yr rookie at LAX make one measley arrest that encompasses the largest amounts you took a career to get(including getting dirty and bruised up)-does that make him( or me ) less cop??? i have always been proud to work in a suburban area of the city with a higher per capita income of residents ,higher level of education,and higher accessibility to resources-people in Weschester and Playa del rey wave with ALL fingers to us ,LAPD, and any other copper that drive around or thru- including LASD.Maybe it has never sunk into your ubercop brain that if the citizens in areas like 77th div,lynwood and Compton( of which once I've lived and grew up in 2/3) had the SAME living conditions as folks where I now work, your past job would have ALSO been easier and crime stats alot lower??????

My "experience" was hard fought for and long in coming- it has taken nearly 20 yrs to see what so called "ghetto coppers" have seen in 5-10,but it has been seen none the less.(and despite what you think Westchester unfortunately has its share of shootings,211s,rapes,and ADWS- not as many thankfully as say the besieged ctzns of Compton) and from the "low" opinion you have of me,you'd think that you were the end all be all to L.E. when you were here-far from it.Like I've said,I been almost everywhere on my job in this county,San Berdoo,and OC-arrests,invs, agency assists- we are not just that 1 1/2 mile rdwy.just doing my job has allowed me to book suspects an LNX,Mens central, bouchet st,La Crescenta, lomita,carson stations for LASO,as well as nearly 10/19 geographical stations for LAPD.Wow? impossible??? think about it-what coppers in nearly all of the 88 PDs and agencies in L.A. county have NOT come across nearly or worked with nearly every other Dept?????Arrested GTA/211/459 suspects-yup-maybe not as many as "YOU"- but probably far more than say another officer with similar time a Hermosa Bch PD ( maybe).wanted felons? plenty- who doesn't?( even unarmed L.A.city park rangers bring them into city jail every Nite by the dozens),rape suspects and sex offenders-maybe not in the hundreds,but far more than I'll ever want my wife or kids to know-homicide scenes- can count at least 15 off hand-(there have been more)-I've talk to guys in Manhattan Bch and even hard hittin' torrance PD who have NEVER been to one,and eat lunch with Inglewood Coppers who see them ever other day-so who is the "super copper" in that equation-does it even matter? Makes me wonder- if the people I have come to arrest in my "experience" have come out of areas you patrolled, were you actually doing your job,backing your fellow Deps- or just showing up for OT,and sandbagging as much as you could?

Unfortunately ,when you strap on a gun and badge ,you are going to run into the worst of things-NO matter where you are-and you are going to have to handle it,'cuase nobody else is going to come and babysit you.I think you took offense to me calling it as I have "seen it" in terms of a "Few" negative" things some deputies did-LASD is a fine Dept in my opinon ,and always has been- but like every organization it has its cracks,issues, and screw ups(other than seeing Chief Parks Boo'ed by his people at Baker to Vegas in '99,I watched Deps BOO Baca at the 2004 annual boxing match-the ultimate disrespect of a leader) -the worst shooting I ever saw up close was a Compton PD pursuit in 1995 near central and Rosecrans with the thugs literally hanging out the van shooting at comptons "hub city rollers",they fired back and the van violently T/C'd-suspects were taken into custody without much incident afterward(no media event,no calls for police oversight,no community activists jumping around).but only a few yrs back Deps in Compton group shoot at a slow moving vehicle in the worst multiple fire incident ever seen in local L.E. - on a suspect that didn't even present a VISIBLE threat-sloppy police work ,no matter who it was!!!! As I said and you have "just" pointed out- theres a lot of ego(better than thou attitude) in this job-something that we all should be aware of so as to stay HUMBLE and focussed,regardless of whether we are walking a footbeat at 400 worldway,or on a ped stop on compton blvd and Long beach blvd-you never know when the crap will hit the fan and you'll be up against it,as this next line shows http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=17743

[DOAcop38]

Oh,and "Retired" FWIW-when you mentioned areas like Firestone,lynwood,- the local residents FEARED the SO more than the thugs-many a day Deps would practice flashlight therapy on a less than "obedient" FX13 gangmembers at the "privacy" of the handball courts in roosevelt park,,show the local Crips how to "hood bounce or slide" off Mona near Alameda,or deliver a few Santana Blocks ( via LASD "Taxi" to the warm embraces of the nickerson gardens and the waiting fists and feet of the bounty hunters Bloods) prety sure that would count today as one of those viols. of civil rights and prison/jail terms for the involved Deps-but back then it was part of the "job"-never once did I ever see a Dep.scared or nervous,( and those stations would "poach" in the jursidictions of huntington Pk PD, Maywood, Southgate,even 77th and southeast div LAPD )and crime -as I remember it was far less than it is today...

[hbliam]

You two know there is a "PM" feature here right?

[Stugotz]

You two know there is a "PM" feature here right?

No, No. No!!! This is when DOA is at his best. Keep the info comin' MG!

[hbliam]

No, No. No!!! This is when DOA is at his best. Keep the info comin' MG!

While much of what he has to say is true I put more stock in info from guys that actually work at the paticular agency in question. When he is talking about LAXPD there is no one better to go to.

[DOAcop38]

While much of what he has to say is true I put more stock in info from guys that actually work at the paticular agency in question. When he is talking about LAXPD there is no one better to go to.


true enough, an so do I( I'd rather listen then check it out for my self than just "assume " that its right) I have no problem with any questioning what I know or don't know, but to dismiss me as being "clueless" on something I've seen for myself or done , is equally wrong.remember back when "we" had a heated debate on the issues of reserves???? turned out you were right and I was wrong on alot of issues,including what the esperience and issues ( good and bad were).its funny,but after having been nearly state wide in training courses,even invs and court cases,I can tell you that we(my Dept) still gets this blank stare from others who think we are merely fence straddlers in Ca. L.E.Granted that we are not chasing down gang bangers everyday-but taking guns off people on T/stops and booking felons is a regular event,like anywhere else in the county-even quiet Palos Verdes Est PD gets hot calls,but you don't see a media blitz about it.Like I said ,everybody comes to LAX,everyone at some time or another runs ops thru ,near or around LAX.My folks get involved in alot more than we are ever given credit for,and are better trained and alot more focussed than alot of folks know.we have a very low turn over or burnout rate,and the few officers that leave tend to be very successful in terms of promoting or adapting with their new depts(including LASD,LAPD,Santa monica PD,Glendale,Simi Valley,Orange Count SD,Ventura,riverside,San Bernardino SD.Santa Ana,Whittier,Inglewood PDS).


We had a recent LAPD lateral do an intercity transfer to LAXPD(kept her time payskill,vacation,.etc) She originally wanted to go to a local beach city ,where her cousin worked,and when asked if she was applying for any other area agency-she said "LAX" and got the reply that "they"(LAX) aren't even real police".Funny now after 2 yrs ,she makes MORE arrests regularly than her cousin does in his "real" beach city PD(yawnnnn),and makes $20K more than her cousin does top step for top step( and thats NOT including OT) bottom line- never discount anybodies "experience"

[Five-0fromSoCal]

having heard from BOTH sides of the coin- what does everyone think ( positively and negatively) about LASD patrolling Compton compared to say,a return of a whole "new" Compton PD by 2011?

Crime jumps up and down. We all know that. Compton Station gets more resources than any other station. That station is deep with deps. (i.e. cops teams, gangs, narco). Not to mention the deps that work the unincorporated areas that respond to Compton Sta. calls. Its nice to have Century Sta., Carson Sta. and Lakewood Sta. surrounding Compton Station if it jumps off.

[DOAcop38]

Crime jumps up and down. We all know that. Compton Station gets more resources than any other station. That station is deep with deps. (i.e. cops teams, gangs, narco). Not to mention the deps that work the unincorporated areas that respond to Compton Sta. calls. Its nice to have Century Sta., Carson Sta. and Lakewood Sta. surrounding Compton Station if it jumps off.

Now with that info-what would you consider the most pressing issue to the crime problem right now-gangs( usual) drug trade,property crime or crime against persons,juvenile crime?Do you consider some of the problems beyond the span of policing (lack of community involvement) or within the capabilities of LASD-CPT?Also,has the higher presence of LASD service in compton been a visible drain on services elsewhere-like neighboring Carson station or Century sta?

[hbliam]

true enough, an so do I( I'd rather listen then check it out for my self than just "assume " that its right) I have no problem with any questioning what I know or don't know, but to dismiss me as being "clueless" on something I've seen for myself or done , is equally wrong.remember back when "we" had a heated debate on the issues of reserves???? ....snip..... bottom line- never discount anybodies "experience"

I'm not discounting any of your experiance or training. My point is in my case you made some statements about my dept that were either completely wrong or about a year out of date. Sure you may talk to a guy or two here or there but you can't tell me you know more about what's going on where I work just like I can't tell you what's going on at LAX. Just like a deputy more then likely knows more about how the sheriffs department works.

So..I put more value on guys opinions of a department that actually work there. That doesn't mean I don't put any value in what you have to say ...just less unless you are talking about LAXPD.

[DOAcop38]

So..I put more value on guys opinions of a department that actually work there. That doesn't mean I don't put any value in what you have to say ...just less unless you are talking about LAXPD.

fair enough and true-and as stated earlier,It was never meant as anything to insult current or former Deps( never once had to ever beg or plead for help from any SO station/deps that I came in contact with).working in a Dept that is constantly being "unnecessarily" reviewed with politicos trying to make a name for themselves by throwing out ideas such as take over and "disband",I still find the situation of the compton PD disbandment interesting as a case of corrupt and inept politicians and vindictive personal vendettas.I was troubled that ALADS supported the usually selfish and self absorbed LAPPL by joining in on the bandwagon against my dept on AB 1882 (2005) and AB 2513(2002) -state bills that never would effect the the rank and file,nor operation of LASD-and particularly over FALSE info regarding both bills.This still leaves the place I work in a situation in which we can expect ANOTHER "takeover" attempt in the next 2-4 yrs,specifically from an agency that -despite Ca.POST,the city council,and independent studies,continues to make the claim that we are "inferior".The only difference is that while a take over of my Dept isn't a priority or even necessary, The Sheriff is responsible for providing Police services to unincorporated areas and incorporated cities without a L.E. agency.The idea of a disbanding of compton - a full service Municipal agency vs a district agency(LAX) has some similar attributes,but luckily not many (LASD wasn't rabidly craving the downfall of Compton PD whereas LAPD helped dismantle MTAPD to a disasterous effect,and continually tinkers at the same for PORT and LAXPDs).The only set backs in contract service-if you can call them that ,was the temporary operations in North Long Beach(early to mid 90s) and Santa Fe Springs by Whittier PD.Having lived in both county (contract and unincroporated areas) as well as the city of L.A.( never again)-I'd always perfer the LASD.Even though its a moot issue,I think that Compton PD didn't have to be disbanded, and that it would still be alive and active today ,if there had been honest and capable city mgm't......

[lovesocal]

so what happened to the compton police officers? they were left with no job?

[hbliam]

The only set backs in contract service-if you can call them that ,was the temporary operations in North Long Beach(early to mid 90s) .


A direct result of attrition brought on by the then Cheif (ex lapd). The LASD brought in tons of deps at first and NLB thought it was great. After the media blitz slowed down the number of deps dropped and the response time and service went with it.

[Five-0fromSoCal]

so what happened to the compton police officers? they were left with no job?


I cant remember the exact number, but most became deps. There were a few that went to other depts.

[DOAcop38]

I cant remember the exact number, but most became deps. There were a few that went to other depts.

nearly all of them-( the Dept had something like 110 officers and command staff ) only a few went elsewhere or they just retired.They had to go thru another backgrounds check ,but LASD wasn't into "chopping heads" and I heard they all got fair shakes.