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willowdared
12-21-2006, 04:40 PM
Study: Benefits for San Diego police not competitive



By Joe Hughes
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
1:01 p.m. December 21, 2006

SAN DIEGO – A study released Thursday by San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders shows the city police department's pay and benefits are at the bottom of take-home compensation compared with those of 19 other law enforcement agencies.

The study was commissioned by Sanders in response to cuts that have led to severe police staffing shortages and an exodus of officers.

It found that while some of San Diego's salary and benefits for police are on a par with other agencies, the cost of health care and pension contributions cuts deeply into officers' take-home pay.
“The survey is brutally honest,” Sanders said at a morning news conference at downtown police headquarters. “San Diego police are at the bottom of the list.”

The study conducted by Buck Consultants of San Francisco compared how the city's police salaries, health and pension benefits compare with other competing agencies.

Officers at 75 per cent of those agencies have higher take-home pay than that of San Diego police, the study said.

Sanders said he intended to push for police to be fairly compensated despite the city's financial straits and a recovery plan that calls for keeping a lid on pay increases for most city employees.

He said any salary increase for police does not mean there would be a tax increase for San Diegans, but he did not detail how such a raise would be financed. He said public safety is and continues to be his No. 1 priority.

“In order to stem the tide of losing officers, and also recruit qualified officers, I believe officers should be compensated fairly,” Sanders said.

He said his goal will be to correct take-home pay deficiencies and get police pay to a competitive level when city officials begin negotiations with the San Diego Police Officers Association next month.

Police have not had a pay raise in two years. The force is 214 officers short of what has been authorized and has a mandated strength of 2,108, which has resulted in staff shortages and longer response times to some calls.

The cuts have also prompted police marches and informational picketing. One recent demonstration had signs that said “Don't Visit San Diego; It's Not Safe.” Others said “911 Please Hold.”

Overall, however, crime has not increased measurably as a result of the shortages.

The survey said San Diego remains the fourth-safest large city in America and that crime has decreased by 2.3 percent during the first 10 months of the year compared to same period last year.

Bill Nemec, president of the San Diego Police Officers Association, said the survey points to two dangerous trends.

“Well-trained officers are leaving for better paying jobs in neighboring communities and the lowest starting salaries is making it extremely difficult to replace them,” Nemec said.

“The survey is the first step in a long journey towards a fair and competitive contract that will make San Diego shine as a community where police are happy in their jobs and proud to serve.”

Police Chief William Lansdowne said upcoming negotiations would be “pivotal to the history of the department” and stressed the need for a competitive salary benefit package to keep more officers from leaving and halt further reductions in service and response times.

A San Diego police officer, according to the survey, makes $10,000 a year less than 75 percent of the agencies surveyed. Officers married with children have an additional $7,200 deducted from their annual pay for their health benefits.

Nemec said to make matters worse San Diego police took pay cuts of 6.6 per cent – an average of more than $3,000 each year – the last two years.

The study showed that a San Diego police entry level officer 1 position has a take-home pay of $43,752. The median pay of the agencies surveyed is $51,587.

Riverside had the highest median pay, with $56,460. Phoenix had the lowest at $38,875. Escondido had the highest median pay – $52,728 – of the San Diego County agencies surveyed.

The survey covered police departments in San Diego, Carlsbad, Chula Vista, El Cajon, Escondido, National City, Oceanside, Anaheim, Fresno, Long Beach, Los Angeles, Murrieta, Riverside, Sacramento, Santa Ana and Phoenix; and sheriff's departments in San Diego, Riverside and San Bernardino counties.

rookie2812
12-22-2006, 02:11 AM
They needed a study to figure that out? I thought it was painfully obvious. I think that deep down, Sanders wants to increase salary/benefits for the department, but since fire and police are connected as "public safety" he isn't able to to it. If they could seperate the two the cops would get their salary and benefits, but the fire department has a very strong union (IAFF) and the pd essentially doesn't even have a union. (the POA has good intentions but has no weight as proven in your last contract negotiation). I fell bad for you guys who are riding it out, I hope you get paid what you deserve soon.

1970k10
12-31-2006, 02:47 PM
I don't want to hear them complaining I have a friend who was over qualified and they did a half *** BI on him and cut him from the process. About 5 months later he was picked up by a better department with better benefits and 40% more pay.

He loved san diego and was willing to work there even with the crappy pay.

1970k10
12-31-2006, 03:21 PM
whoops double tap

beachcop05
12-31-2006, 08:52 PM
I don't want to hear them complaining I have a friend who was over qualified and they did a half *** BI on him and cut him from the process. About 5 months later he was picked up by a better department with better benefits and 40% more pay.

He loved san diego and was willing to work there even with the crappy pay.


They have some very good background investigators (some of whom I know personally) and a good background section who do a thorough job, they obviously just didn't like him for some reason or another.

1970k10
01-02-2007, 12:34 PM
They have some very good background investigators (some of whom I know personally) and a good background section who do a thorough job, they obviously just didn't like him for some reason or another.

Yes I understand he was young and very gung ho, right out of Spec Op Community, possibly too aggressive for SDPD??

From what he told me they really didnt check up, no house call, no talking to friends, no seeing his work. They even thought he lived in a different city.

I understand they are understaffed but hey you would think they would at least try to get their hands dirty a little bit.

willowdared
01-02-2007, 06:32 PM
From what he told me they really didnt check up, no house call, no talking to friends, no seeing his work. They even thought he lived in a different city.

Sounds like there were some inconsistencies with his packet then.

This is still a job you are applying for...it's not like joining the military, where you only have to pass the drug tests/physicals and get thru boot camp. And it's not like most civilian jobs that you can BS your way through an interview.

While a military background can be beneficial as a cop, there are other skills that come into play. Cops have to deal with "citizens" as often as they do "dirtbags." They may be first on scene for the child that drowned, and have to start CPR. They may be the one trying to talk someone off the bridge. They may have to spend their full shift sitting alone in a house with a murder victim to maintain "custody" of the scene.

It's not the kind of job that falls in your lap, it's the kind of job that you have to prove you want but persevering through every step.

hbliam
01-02-2007, 06:53 PM
It's not the kind of job that falls in your lap, it's the kind of job that you have to prove you want but persevering through every step.

Exactly.

I still get surprised by the posts from applicants that somehow seem to think they are owed a job or that they are doing someone a favor by applying. I'm a reserve and get paid nothing but still had to go through the same hiring process. By far the hardest hiring process that I ever been through. Now that I (today!) am finally on the lateral list for my department I still have to re-go through the entire process again.

1970k10
01-02-2007, 07:19 PM
Sounds like there were some inconsistencies with his packet then.

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I wasn't there so I couldn't tell you, thats probably a possibility. The issue he had was he thought if the detective took the time to research his background talk to his leaders in the military they could have found out that the polygraph was way off.

He did get picked up by another department, and he is a pretty straight shooting guy so I am thinking it was a fluke.

willowdared
01-02-2007, 10:14 PM
I wasn't there so I couldn't tell you, thats probably a possibility. The issue he had was he thought if the detective took the time to research his background talk to his leaders in the military they could have found out that the polygraph was way off.

He did get picked up by another department, and he is a pretty straight shooting guy so I am thinking it was a fluke.

It happens.

I forgot to put one of my credit cards on my BI packet, all I had on it was my monthy premium for accidental death insurance, so I forgot.

Close call.