California P.D. Agencies Reserve Ofiicers Transporting

[CALIRESERVE]

I was wondering if any other California departments let their Level 2 reserves do transports?

Our agency is considering letting our Level 2's transport prisoners. I was curious how many other agencies allow this and what their policies are regarding transport.

I work in a fairly small department (39 sworn) and we are having trouble convincing the admin to allow Level 2 reserves to transport.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

[Rogerthump]

Oxnard Police Department has the reserve units transport to county or city holding solo all the time.

Call the Oxnard Police Department at (805) 385-7600 and ask to be transfered to Sergeant Cliff Troy. He runs the reserve program and can answer all of your questions and if you ask him nice, he may fax you the policies regarding reserve officer duties in relation to prisoner transport. :)

I do not work for the Oxnard Police Department but I know people who do. Cliff is a great guy and is a very active instructor at the reserve academy. Oxnard Police Reserve Program is a model for many other departments in California and Cliff helped shape it to it's current form.

[hbliam]

http://post.ca.gov/training/rpop/pdf/RPOP-summary.pdf

Level III's can transport prisoners solo so I don't see what the problem with Level II's would be. Jailers do transport with just a PC832.

On the other hand I wouldn't be begging to do transport. I have done that as a Level II and Level I and it's boring for the most part.

[Rogerthump]

I know what they are and what training they require but I have never seen a level III reserve before. In every department I have worked for the desk spots for level IIIs were always paid civilian jobs. Any other volunteer jobs other than the level I and II reserve police officers were citizen patrol which consisted of retired persons who drive an echo as a patrol vehicle.

I have a great deal of respect for reserves. They do what we do for free. Sure they want to wear a badge and gun and they earn it. And they learn quickly that they earn their keep too so if they last, I consider them the same as a full time officer. I only wish that we could pay our reserves like Sacramento does. Maybe 90% of our reserves end up with some department full time within a few years.

[nobody33]

I know what they are and what training they require but I have never seen a level III reserve before. In every department I have worked for the desk spots for level IIIs were always paid civilian jobs. Any other volunteer jobs other than the level I and II reserve police officers were citizen patrol which consisted of retired persons who drive an echo as a patrol vehicle.

I have a great deal of respect for reserves. They do what we do for free. Sure they want to wear a badge and gun and they earn it. And they learn quickly that they earn their keep too so if they last, I consider them the same as a full time officer. I only wish that we could pay our reserves like Sacramento does. Maybe 90% of our reserves end up with some department full time within a few years.


San Bernardino PD was the only agency that was "hiring" level III's about 2 years ago. I'm not sure if they still are or not.

[Conallron]

CoCo Sheriff hires level 3's and even has a level 4 if you don't have your level 3 training yet. Once you get your level 3 your promoted to level 3 Reserve.

[Conallron]

http://www.cocosheriff.org/support/emergency_services/volunteer_services/deputy_sheriff_reserves.htm


Training

Once accepted to the Sheriff's Reserve Program, Reserves who have not yet completed training will be identified as Level 4 Reserves. Level 4 Reserves will be expected to attend training meetings until they begin the Reserve Training Course. Once the Training Course begins, those Level 4 Reserves who complete the 162 hours of training will be appointed as Sheriff's Level 3 Reserve Deputies. These Level 3 Reserves will then be provided the same uniform and equipment as is provided to regular Deputy Sheriff's.

[hbliam]

I know what they are and what training they require but I have never seen a level III reserve before.

I didn't say you didn't. I was answering the original post question.

We have Level III's, they are mostly Dr.'s. They aren't allowed to work any patrol related details.

[Rogerthump]

I didn't say you didn't. I was answering the original post question.

We have Level III's, they are mostly Dr.'s. They aren't allowed to work any patrol related details.

I think you misunderstood my first sentence. I only wanted to avoid a post about the duties of a level three.

Is there a ' :o snicker :o ' a level three academy? Is that like a 832 class or something? j/k

Really though, any help is good help in my book. I salute any volunteer in law enforcement. God bless them all.

[hbliam]

I think you misunderstood my first sentence. I only wanted to avoid a post about the duties of a level three.

Is there a ' :o snicker :o ' a level three academy? Is that like a 832 class or something? j/k

Really though, any help is good help in my book. I salute any volunteer in law enforcement. God bless them all.


Gotcha.

My point in bringing up the fact that POST says a Level III can transport alone was to show how dumb it would be to deny a Level II.

Yes there is a Level III academy. It's PC 832 and then a Level III specfic class which is about 162 hours.

[DOAcop38]

Gotcha.

My point in bringing up the fact that POST says a Level III can transport alone was to show how dumb it would be to deny a Level II.

Yes there is a Level III academy. It's PC 832 and then a Level III specfic class which is about 162 hours.

..The Ca. Dept.of Mental Health services employees "Hospital police officers",who are uniformed ,patrol and conduct invs,make arrests,etc,and their min training to qualify for that FULL time job is PC 832+ the addit'l weapons course;most agencies have only level II officers and many are often on patrol( without a partner,despite what the law or POST sez) and they make arrests as well as transport.Are you sure its a dept policy issue or the union expressed some issue behind it? Cali reserve,some Depts are small and see the use of reserves as "union breaking". i have personally been trying to get my Dept to start a reserve (paid) program in order to kick out a larger "sister" dept that eats into our OT budget,by placing their officers in our area to work OT slots( but do nothing)

[nobody33]

You don't have to even be sworn at all to transport in custodies. Riverside sheriff has a CSO II position that can transport. There are some sheriff departments that also have non sworn jailers that have to transport.