M-NCPPC and housing

[JDougal]

Ok a few questions again, so answer any and all that you wish.

I've been looking into M-NCPPC (PG) and was wondering what people thought of the department? Anyone know any officers, know about the equipment, etc. etc.

I've spoken to their recruitment office and so far I'm interested, just wanted to get your guys opinions.

Finanlly with M-NCPPC you can live in either PG or Montgomery County. Does anyone have any suggestions on decent places to live that aren't too expensive. (I know its PG and Montgomery so everythings is expensive but I want something decent and safe for the family).

Again thanks like always for your input.

[irishlad2nv]

Why PG side is what I am going to ask? I do know that they are pretty busy on PG side, but many like the Mont. Co side of the dept as well.

I have done some training with the department as a whole and got very good feedback from both sides, so I would think hard before you decide which county to look at, but at the same time, apply for both.

There are several places in and around PG/Mont to live at, but then you would have to consider where you would be stationed and how far you owuld have to drive everyday, etc. Very important things to think about. I would just call their recruitment and ask them some questions on the residency requirement. Best of luck.

[JDougal]

Thanks for the input. Not really set on PG side just that's who I've spoken with. Do both agencies have take homes? I can't find that on the MC side nor do I see anything about K9 units. Both of these are big selling points for me right now.

More feedback would be greatly appreciated.

[theheights109]

Thanks for the input. Not really set on PG side just that's who I've spoken with. Do both agencies have take homes? I can't find that on the MC side nor do I see anything about K9 units. Both of these are big selling points for me right now.

More feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Check where you posted about them in the Jobs section......i left a reply there. as for K9, the PG side just started a K9 unit less than a year ago.......for now they only have two K9's.

[JDougal]

Yea I saw that post thanks a lot! Do you know anything about the hiring process or the average call load per shift?

Thanks

[theheights109]

Yea I saw that post thanks a lot! Do you know anything about the hiring process or the average call load per shift?

Thanks

from what i know they are VERY VERY selective in their hiring..........as for call load, it seems to me that they tend to self-initiate their work more often than getting calls for service.

[JDougal]

I had no clue they were that selective. The way the Recruiter spoke they were in real need for people. Anything you can tell me specifically about the process? Tips to get through?

Thanks

[AgentFox]

I had no clue they were that selective. The way the Recruiter spoke they were in real need for people. Anything you can tell me specifically about the process? Tips to get through?

Thanks

MD Natl Park are certainly hiring. Start @ 42Gs. 25 yr retirement. Good deal.

[BadBoynMD]

""""MD Natl Park are certainly hiring. Start @ 42Gs. 25 yr retirement. Good deal.

In my academy class that started off at 127, three of them are Maryland-Nat'l Park (They happen to all be female as well.). That 3 of 127 doesn't suggest they are so highly selective, perhaps only small amounts are desiring the job? To my understanding they do have tighter limits on their hiring process, though.

Where to live? It is all expensive here! You can always live in HoCo or AA Co, too. Be careful of school systems if you are a family man.

Concerning calls, you would suprised at what they handle. There's ample acreage and numerous dwellings they are responsible for... they're not just squirrel chasers.

If you are serious about policing, come on down. A great area to be the poh'lice""""

I for one think Maryland Park (Montgomery County) is a awesome department. From what I understand is that you recieve a take-home car, that can be driven in both Montgomery and Prince George's Counties. You don't attend roll call, just walkout side, hop in the cruiser login on the computer and start work from there. They have permenant shifts which is awesome.. no needing to adjust the internal clock. They are a more self generated department rather than a dispatch generated. Although they do recieve calls through dispatch, but not a frequent as the county. They have the ability and authority to run radar/lidar anywhere in Montgomery County, they backup the county police on calls and some are even assigned to specialty units (Alcohol enforcement to name one) with the county police. Some people think park police don't have much to do in Montgomery County, but they realize how false that is when they are issued their tickets, or locked up.

[JDougal]

Thanks again everyone for your input. What is the difference between the two county departments? They our run by seperate chiefs and everything. Are the benefits (take home etc.) the same for these departments?

[johnnyReb]

Thanks again everyone for your input. What is the difference between the two county departments? They our run by seperate chiefs and everything. Are the benefits (take home etc.) the same for these departments?


The answers to those questions interest me as well.

A couple questions I would like to add is, why are the departments split? Can you transfer to the other division?

[irishlad2nv]

The answers to those questions interest me as well.

A couple questions I would like to add is, why are the departments split? Can you transfer to the other division?
They are not two seperate Departments. They are considered One Agency with 2 Divisions.

[JDougal]

The answers to those questions interest me as well.

A couple questions I would like to add is, why are the departments split? Can you transfer to the other division?

I believe from what I've read you can transfer from what county to the other. I'm not 100% sure on this and have not heard back from PG's recruiter. Anyone else have any input?

[BadBoynMD]

Park police is one department, and as stated by our fellow member they have two divisions. If you are hired on the Mont. Co. side you attend the Mont. Co. Police Academy in Rockville, and if you're hired on the PG County side you attend the PG County Academy in Upper Marlboro. Recently Mont. Co's. division decided (for whatever reason) to change the cars from the tan and black to white with blue and yellow decals. PG still has the tan and black cars.

I will also add that being on the park police you basically have the whole county to play with (specially on midnights). You're usually assigned a pretty big area and just hit some parks, run traffic or some run calls with the county police. So in my opinion if you want to be busy you can, if you don't you don't (sometimes not always the case).

As far as take home cars I believe its unlimited use within Mont. Co and PG County, but it depends on the divisions policy (even though it's the same department each division has seperate general orders on certain issues. Majority of all park cruisers have cages by the way for those that like or hate them.

As far as transferring from one county to the other I believe this can be done, and if I am not mistaken i've heard of someone doing that from PG over to Mont. Co.

[John from Maryland]

Officers can transfer from one division to another. These seems to happen primarily when people are promoted.

Montgomery Park is a good outfit, but even more consumed by political correctness than many other Maryland suburban departments. You won't see tasers or rifles on Montgomery Park officers. I doubt you will with this chief.

That said, the officers are professional and the job is what you make of it.

[JDougal]

I've been told that you basically get your takehome right out of FTO. Can anyone here verifty that information? Once again thanks for everyones input its awesome being able to come here and talk to people who know and care!

[theheights109]

They have the ability and authority to run radar/lidar anywhere in Montgomery County, they backup the county police on calls and some are even assigned to specialty units (Alcohol enforcement to name one) with the county police. Some people think park police don't have much to do in Montgomery County, but they realize how false that is when they are issued their tickets, or locked up.

where did you hear that they can shoot radar anywhere in the county? that is absolutely not true........if it is related to a park, they can do it......that means in the parks or on roads adjacent to the parks. their authority relating to traffic offenses is restricted to their jurisdiction just like any other officer in the state.

[JDougal]

I was told from a recruiter that they have county wide jurisdiction and not just within the parks. Not sure if this is the case or not, but just what I was told.

[irishlad2nv]

I was told from a recruiter that they have county wide jurisdiction and not just within the parks. Not sure if this is the case or not, but just what I was told.
Negative. They are only allowed to operate with-in their Jurisdiction. They are not the County Police. Their Primary duties are what is inside their Jurisdiction. If another agency needs their Assistance, then they can be there.

[P.I.Davis]

I beleve its a contract issue with them that its mandatory that they receive their takehome as soon as FTO is finished.

[JDougal]

I beleve its a contract issue with them that its mandatory that they receive their takehome as soon as FTO is finished.

Is this the case for the entire department or just the PG division?

[John from Maryland]

While Park Police have pretty wide traffic jurisdiction, it is not absolute. They have authority in the parks and on roads leading to or adjacent to the parks. As Montgomery (and, I believe, PG) has a large park system with numerous small neighborhood and school-parks, that gives Park Police a pretty wide bailiwick. If you're interested in doing traffic enforcement, you'll have plenty of opportunity to do so in a variety of areas.

As far as criminal jurisdiction, Maryland law gives officers out-of-jurisdiction authority in emergencies, at the request of an allied agency, when serving on task forces, and so forth. This allows Park Police to respond to a variety of calls and to serve on the Alcohol Enforcement Unit, but it likewise is not absolute authority.

[P.I.Davis]

Is this the case for the entire department or just the PG division?

I cant imagine their represented by different unions/contracts so I would assume both but I am not 100%.

[theheights109]

I was told from a recruiter that they have county wide jurisdiction and not just within the parks. Not sure if this is the case or not, but just what I was told.

unfortunately, they are hurting for people just like every other department.....they will say things to keep people interested!!!!!

[MisterSU]

MNCPP is probably one of the only departments, besides UMCP PD, in the central part of MD that Ive looked in to. I was wondering what their academy process is like. They go to either PG or MG depending on which county - but do they ever get sent to one or the other? Ive heard a story of someone who applied for MG but ended up getting assigned to PG. Im sure it is relative to need, and thats understandable. I was also wondering though, do they accept self-sponsored academy training, like fromt Frederick or Wor-Wic? I wasnt sure, since although all the academys are MD Certified, some have more training and some dont.

[P.I.Davis]

Well each department has their own standards when it comes to previous training. As long as your academy even if it was self sponsored was MPTC certified and meets all their criteria for certification than you should be a few step ahead of other applicants. However some places have enough of a budget that they don't care what you have because they got omoney to put you thorugh an academy. Like everywhere else if you can pass the background and psych you basicly guarenteed a job.

[MisterSU]

alrighty then. Ive still got sometime before Im close to applying to departments (2 more semesters of college to go) - but I was fooling with the idea of self-sponsoring myself through the academy and applying afterward. Many of the MD departments Ive looked at are the type that only hire pre-certified, like the smaller ones. But if I wanted to add a department like this one to the list, I want to make sure they would be cool with it. I know places like BC and alike have their own academy and want you to go through it.

[JDougal]

Did you say that you were interested in University of Maryland College Park PD?

[MisterSU]

Yeah. Ive talked with some of the officers from down there in the past and most of them seemed like they like(d) it. Especially since its a unique place and situation. University policing with a small town kick. Any insights or information would are always greatly appreciated!

[johnnyReb]

I don't think there really is a need to self sponser yourself in Maryland. SO MANY departments are hiring here and need people, just go through the process. I'm in the process with Charles County and they are really pushing me through! I have been nothing short of very impressed with how everyone there has treated me. Almost as if I was the only one there! They have been very willing to work with me, and answer and questions I have had.

I just can't say enough about how good the people are with Charles County. Consider applying there.

Montgomery, Prince George's, Charles, St.Mary's, Cecil, Fredrick, and Carroll are all hiring now.

Many, Many options in Maryland currently.

[irishlad2nv]

Carroll County only accepts Certified LEO's for the Road.

[BadBoynMD]

Carroll County only accepts Certified LEO's for the Road.


Isn't this because Maryland State Police will no longer be assisting with patrol functions. I was told they are hiring big time because of this.

[irishlad2nv]

Carroll County only accepts Certified LEO's for the Road.


Isn't this because Maryland State Police will no longer be assisting with patrol functions. I was told they are hiring big time because of this.
MSP is still the Primary LE agency in Carroll County. CCSO is rapidly attempting to change this. They are not hiring big time, but at the same time their turn over rate is very rapid.

[theheights109]

MSP is still the Primary LE agency in Carroll County. CCSO is rapidly attempting to change this. They are not hiring big time, but at the same time their turn over rate is very rapid.

last i heard carroll had either no or terrible retirement........that probably has something to do with turnover!!!

[irishlad2nv]

Crappy retirement. It's through the County and it is the 401K Retirement Plan. You would be better off working for a small town in Maryland going through the states retirement.

[msptrooper]

Carroll County only accepts Certified LEO's for the Road.


Isn't this because Maryland State Police will no longer be assisting with patrol functions. I was told they are hiring big time because of this.

CCSO's turnover rate is very high. I doubt they will ever take over the county unless they overhaul their pay/benefits/retirement. In Carroll County, MSP has the most Troopers at that one barrack compared to the rest across the state.

[BadBoynMD]

A friend of mine was looking to lateral over to CCSO, but was quickly turned off by the fact they would only pay $38K for his 28 years of experience. He also stated the retirement plan sucked. This is also where I was told that MSP is not going to be helping out with patrol operations in the county, and that the county would be responsible for patrol functions.