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y2kwht150
09-27-2006, 03:23 AM
Like the title say...what is the best one. I'm more interested in compact to sub compact category. Thanks

banastretarlton
09-27-2006, 03:32 AM
We don't carry guns over here, unfortunately. But doesn't Keltec make one of the world's most concealable DAO guns, which carries 10 or 10+1 rds of 9mm?

I think a lot of your colleagues in the states use that as a BUG/ off duty carry. Or a scaled down .45.

biggreen
09-27-2006, 04:06 AM
Try the Paraordinance P-10 (.45 cal & 10+1, I believe).

detsarg
09-27-2006, 10:10 AM
Glock 27. Its like an American Express card, I never leave home without it.

Ok, sometimes I carry the lightweight KelTec .380 instead because I wear shorts and it fits nicely in the front pocket without looking like a gun.

cclawdog
09-27-2006, 10:42 AM
The best is what works for YOU. I wouldn't go any smaller than .380 ACP. Get something that is comfortable and feels good in the hand. That will help with shot placement when you get to practicing with it. Go to a gun shop that has a buch of the populars to rent on the range and try them to get an idea what you want. The rest is up to you. All personal preference there is no right or wrong (unless you go against everything i tell you and you get what "everyone" else says is number one). Don't overlook Khar or Beretta's Cheetah or Sig's PPK look alike, or even revolvers. This is to be YOUR off duty gun, nobody elses!
Good Luck. I'd be interested in your pick and why so let me know Please.

jdlong
09-27-2006, 11:45 AM
Glock 27. Its like an American Express card, I never leave home without it.

Ok, sometimes I carry the lightweight KelTec .380 instead because I wear shorts and it fits nicely in the front pocket without looking like a gun.

G27 as well for me. I used to carry my Kimber Pro Carry 1911, but switched to the G27. I carry a G22 on-duty...wanted to make the switch to keep the weapon platform the same. Keep it simple and familiar. Although, I do strap the 1911 on once in a while. Once a 1911 fan, always a 1911 fan. It really boils down to what you're comfortable with though. There is no "best weapon". Personal preference.

WC145
09-27-2006, 11:48 AM
There is no gun that is going to be the "best one" for everybody. Policies, calibers, fit, size, weight, cost, environment, how you're built, preferred style of clothing, assignments, etc., etc. all have an impact on what you might choose to carry.

I carry a H&K USP Compact on duty and off duty. I carry a Kel-tec P3at as a BUG and occasionally off duty, I have a S&W 642 that I carry of duty fairly often and occasionally as a bug. I have a Charter Arms Bulldog that I just got back from their shop that I am going to be carrying more often. What I carry at any given time depends on where I'm going, what I'm wearing, the weather, and all sorts of other factors.
Personally, if I had to choose just one off duty/BUG it would probably be a small frame revolver like my 642. Compact, powerful, reliable, doesn't matter how you hold it, can't go out of battery - the perfect "OH *****" gun.

y2kwht150
09-27-2006, 12:52 PM
Thanks for all the replies thusfar...I know it is based on personal profile, I simply want to get some feedback as to what everyone out there are carrying simply because I am new to this. Anyways, my 1st choice was Sig but I will continue to check others out.

y2kwht150
09-27-2006, 01:13 PM
I found these three to be very interesting....like some info on them for those who has/use them. PARA Warthog, Walther P99 compact, and H&K P2000SK. Thanks again.

armoredman
09-27-2006, 01:40 PM
Best off duty weapon? Your mind. Best tool to defend it? CZ PCR or PO1, IMHO. :cool:

Naui1974
09-27-2006, 01:44 PM
Springfield XD. Looks and feels like the Glock, Sig, and 1911 rolled up in one.

Big Texan
09-27-2006, 07:58 PM
The best off-duty/back-up gun is the Glock 27. It supplements the Glock 22 you should be carrying as a duty weapon quite nicely.

KenW.
09-27-2006, 09:45 PM
supplements the Glock 22 you should be carrying as a duty weapon quite nicely.

How odd; I was thinking the same except to substitute Glock 22 for Kimber 1911, and Glock 27 should be changed to Colt Defender. Each in .45 ACP naturally.

jdlong
09-28-2006, 11:25 AM
How odd; I was thinking the same except to substitute Glock 22 for Kimber 1911, and Glock 27 should be changed to Colt Defender. Each in .45 ACP naturally.

Damn it, you're bringing back old memories. :( My Kimber Pro Carry is no longer on-duty. Our Chief and Firearms Instructor made the G22 mandatory carry three years ago. No more 1911's. They used the ridiculous "cocked and locked" is dangerous argument...and the ability of our Probation Officers to have the same weapon platform during a fire fight (that point makes sense).

My G22 and G27 are great...but I sure miss my Kimber. Once a 1911 fan, always a 1911 fan. She rides with me off-duty once in a while, just to keep her happy. :D

Mitchell_in_CT
09-28-2006, 12:26 PM
Like the title say...what is the best one. I'm more interested in compact to sub compact category. Thanks

The same gun that you would carry if you were not in LE.

The gun that you like.

y2kwht150
09-28-2006, 01:45 PM
"The same gun that you would carry if you were not in LE.

The gun that you like."



...which is none...never had a gun :D

Mitchell_in_CT
09-28-2006, 01:49 PM
Fine.

I'll make the decission for you.

Here, this is your next off duty gun - http://www.wilsoncombat.com/p_supergrade.asp

Happy now?

banastretarlton
09-28-2006, 01:57 PM
"The same gun that you would carry if you were not in LE.

The gun that you like."



...which is none...never had a gun :D


CZ pistols are supposed to be very good quality and competitively priced.

Richard Miller
09-28-2006, 06:17 PM
My preference is a Smith and Wesson Model 66, 2.5 inch barrel, 6 shot revolver. With the Model 66 one can use either .38 or .357 bullets.

detsarg
09-28-2006, 11:34 PM
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/p_supergrade.asp

I know we are not having a beauty contest but DAMN! That is an ugly gun!

I'm sure it has a nice personality and a great sense of humor...

Big Texan
09-28-2006, 11:40 PM
How odd; I was thinking the same except to substitute Glock 22 for Kimber 1911, and Glock 27 should be changed to Colt Defender. Each in .45 ACP naturally.

Its bad enough if one's sidearms has a useless thumb safety, but when your world completely goes to ***** and you have to draw a back-up weapon, that damn "safety" is just something else that can put you in a pine box.

Mitchell_in_CT
09-29-2006, 10:56 AM
I know we are not having a beauty contest but DAMN! That is an ugly gun!

I'm sure it has a nice personality and a great sense of humor...

Nekulturney Swine.

I have it on good authority that the L0RD no longer loves you.

KenW.
09-29-2006, 01:32 PM
useless thumb safety

Hardly useless. It prevents the AD/UD/ND trouble so common with Glocks, since their only safety device is a passive lever mounted on the trigger. (Note my avatar)

Go ahead, I'm ready for the old "the best safety is mounted between my ears" story. Spout yours then go to glocktalk.com's cop talk forum. My agency allowed it's first Glock only a couple of years ago.

My agency is considering a change from the H&K USP40 we've had for 8 years, to the FNP40. That's fine as long I can keep my 1911s.

TPO
09-29-2006, 08:04 PM
My preference is a Smith and Wesson Model 66, 2.5 inch barrel, 6 shot revolver. With the Model 66 one can use either .38 or .357 bullets.

for the last 10 years, i've used a S&W 640-1 in .357 magnum. 5 shots in the gun and a speed strip. i have never felt ill prepared.

Big Texan
09-30-2006, 02:47 PM
the best safety is mounted between my ears.

Well, since you mentioned it, if the safety between your ears is not functioning properly (i. e. an officer does not know how to properly reholster his weapon), there is not a damn thing a thumb safety can do.

LASD6833
10-01-2006, 05:09 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/MarcM/ORD_HK_P2000SK_Pistol.jpg IN 9MM
OR
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/MarcM/640swb.jpgIN 38SPL

Rokk
10-02-2006, 12:11 AM
I just bought a cz2075 (.40, 8+1). I love it. A little big for off-duty, but should make a good back-up.

ofcp2
10-09-2006, 08:39 PM
Taurus ultralite titanium .38 Model 85

ofcp2
10-09-2006, 08:46 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k130/ptcb/85MULTI.jpg

bullseye48
10-09-2006, 11:20 PM
You guys that carry Revolvers off duty or as back up get a big Hats Off from me. I LOVE revolvers and always will. I carry a 4 inch Ruger GP100 off duty or my Ruger sp101 in 38 special. They are simple, reliable, and accurate. Could you asked for anything else? I know that some of you guys will say, "A Revolver, that will get you killed" but the old trusty revolver has been getting the job done since before the 1860s.

ofcp2
10-09-2006, 11:34 PM
You guys that carry Revolvers off duty or as back up get a big Hats Off from me. I LOVE revolvers and always will. I carry a 4 inch Ruger GP100 off duty or my Ruger sp101 in 38 special. They are simple, reliable, and accurate. Could you asked for anything else? I know that some of you guys will say, "A Revolver, that will get you killed" but the old trusty revolver has been getting the job done since before the 1860s.
Amen.Very well put, If I was allowed I would carry Ruger GP 100 .357mag on duty.
Carry two sets of speed loaders.

detsarg
10-09-2006, 11:44 PM
Nothing wrong with a revolver. I have had a Rossie 5 shot snub nose in the glove box of my car since 1988. Well, its been through several cars actually and I even wore it on my ankle for a short time. I always fire a few rounds when throught it and give it a good cleaning when I go to the range to practice with my autos. Bought it the day after my 21st birthday.

banastretarlton
10-10-2006, 06:59 AM
Best off duty weapon? Your mind. Best tool to defend it? CZ PCR or PO1, IMHO. :cool:

You love the CZs, don't ya? It's good to see an ambassador for such a fine, tried and tested weapon. We know that there are loads of Glock, H&K, SIG, 1911 fans out there, but no-one besides you praises the CZ range. From what I've read, nobody has anything bad to say about them. In fact it's all very good.

They are apparently very accurate, ergonomic, reliable to combat standard and INEXPENSIVE guns.

banastretarlton
10-10-2006, 07:02 AM
You guys that carry Revolvers off duty or as back up get a big Hats Off from me. I LOVE revolvers and always will. I carry a 4 inch Ruger GP100 off duty or my Ruger sp101 in 38 special. They are simple, reliable, and accurate. Could you asked for anything else? I know that some of you guys will say, "A Revolver, that will get you killed" but the old trusty revolver has been getting the job done since before the 1860s.

They didn't have villains, high on crack, toting Mac 10s in the 1860s.

Mike G from NC
10-11-2006, 02:44 PM
I would love to have a Wilson Combat. I cant see paying $3795.00 for an off duty gun. I carry a few different ones. Way I see it,Tiger doesnt play every hole with a 3 wood.

grey myst
11-22-2006, 09:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/MarcM/ORD_HK_P2000SK_Pistol.jpg IN 9MM
OR
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/MarcM/640swb.jpgIN 38SPL


Where do you carry the sk?

RX-7cop
11-27-2006, 09:11 PM
How about a Kel-Tec P11?

armoredman
11-27-2006, 11:34 PM
You love the CZs, don't ya? It's good to see an ambassador for such a fine, tried and tested weapon. We know that there are loads of Glock, H&K, SIG, 1911 fans out there, but no-one besides you praises the CZ range. From what I've read, nobody has anything bad to say about them. In fact it's all very good.

They are apparently very accurate, ergonomic, reliable to combat standard and INEXPENSIVE guns.
I do believe in CZ. I even put in for the Dept to look into switching to the PO1 from the G-rock, but politics said no.
I carry PO1 or PCR off duty, and my wife carries a 2075 RAMI 9mm or PCR as well.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/choiceschoices.jpg
CZ is, IMHO, the best deal out there. But, there is a reason there are so many choices, as we are all differant. :) My next pistol will be either a CZ SP01, or...wait for it...A Smith Model 10 .38. Hah, gotacha. Just want to reload 38Spl, too. :D
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PCRPO1.jpg

RX-7cop
11-28-2006, 08:21 PM
My next pistol will be either a CZ SP01, or...wait for it...A Smith Model 10 .38. Hah, gotacha. Just want to reload 38Spl, too. :D

Ahh, the 38 special. One of the easies and most versitile cartrides to load. But why not go with somthing in 357 Mag so you can shoot both?