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clawdad
08-12-2006, 12:56 AM
Just wondering-What do you all use for logging security checks in your facilities/housing units? We are moving from a linear facility (using the old watchman clocks and keys) to a new direct supervision facility (using "the Pipe" and coded buttons) very soon. The new system seems to be a lot simpler, plus we won't have to carry the big clock around. Anyone else using "the Pipe" have any pros/cons or things to watch for? Thanks
Every joint I have worked, state and fed, just documents it on paper.
DefendDade
08-12-2006, 08:04 AM
Every joint I have worked, state and fed, just documents it on paper.
Same here.
Bowles
08-12-2006, 08:06 AM
Every joint I have worked, state and fed, just documents it on paper.
Ditto.........
BigBen4181
08-12-2006, 09:15 AM
The new system seems to be a lot simpler, plus we won't have to carry the big clock around. Thanks
A big clock???? What the **** are you carrying a big clock around for , unless youre flava flav
drn151
08-12-2006, 05:02 PM
We document on 2 different forms, use our test feature on man down alarms at the back of each range, plus were are recorded 24 7 . :eek:
RdSqdCO
08-12-2006, 07:27 PM
Every joint I have worked, state and fed, just documents it on paper.
Ditto... Master Control shift narrative, and a couple other log books...
PRIME EVIL
08-13-2006, 08:57 AM
We document the majority of our checks on paper. In the hardlocks we use the "pipe" to do bar and window checks daily. Believe it or not, a couple of dumbasses escaped from out 4th floor hardlock by sawing through the bars, kicking out the window and crawling down sheets to the ground. One made it, the other didn't use enough sheets and fell 2 floors to the sidewalk breaking EVERYTHING on one side of his body. The one who got away got caught in Nevada and is now back with us. :D
I hear the "pipe" is going to be used in all three of our facilities soon, at least until they get broken.... ;)
armoredman
08-13-2006, 11:10 AM
Interesting - never heard of the "clock" or the "pipe".
Revelation
08-14-2006, 03:47 AM
I know this has nothing to do with prison security, but we used the Pipe at the Embassy. It can be connected to a computer and all patrols the officers conducted are registered. Ensured that they were conducting their patrols.
co_leo
08-14-2006, 06:16 AM
Here in Miami we document on paper and use the pipe once at the beginning of the shift. We had the same thing happen in our jail with a hacksaw blade inmates tried to escape. Don't know what the clock is.... :confused:
However our other 3 jails are third generation. Meaning they look like damn hotels!!!
sdurkin
08-14-2006, 10:51 PM
Interesting - never heard of the "clock" or the "pipe".
Me neither. Anyone care to explain what these are?
I think we need something in our jail to make sure our midnight shift is doing their checks. One particular CO feels they are not necessary, and he only does 1 or 2 per night. The others are just lazy and sometimes don't do any checks at all!!
Revelation
08-15-2006, 03:23 AM
Me neither. Anyone care to explain what these are?
I think we need something in our jail to make sure our midnight shift is doing their checks. One particular CO feels they are not necessary, and he only does 1 or 2 per night. The others are just lazy and sometimes don't do any checks at all!!
The Pipe resembles a pipe, but on the end is a sensor. You can place small chips, about the size of a 5 cent piece, at different locations. When an officer does his checks, he places the end of the Pipe on the chip, this will then register with a beep, now the check has been logged into the Pipe. At the end of a shift or month, the Pipe can be connected to a computer and all checks can be viewed; time, date, and control point, and even printed out.
Also, each chip can be programmed with exact location or names. You can also use the chip to log in and off from work. Nice way to have control.
clawdad
08-15-2006, 05:44 AM
http://www.discountclocks.com/scstore/p-DETEKGUARD.html
this is a link to a site that sell the "clocks".
Basically numbered keys are placed at different locations in the facility. You carry the clock with you on your rounds and turn the key, which imprints the keys # onto a strip of paper. It is to ensure that checks are being done. It is something that the NYS comission of corrections requires us to do.
armoredman
08-15-2006, 10:04 AM
What a PITA. I prefer to trust my staff, and they do get the job done.
clawdad
08-16-2006, 12:11 AM
I feel the same way, but that's the way it's been since I started working. Sometimes the brass is a little uptight around here.
snkbyt1
08-16-2006, 08:12 PM
for us it's PAPER/ honor system, if by your not doing your job and an inmate makes a dash then its your ash
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