CBP officer

[FIU24]

What is your work schedule when you finish FLETC? Is it like police officers, where you work five days and have two days off?

[Orleanian84]

Was raised there all my life and couldn't wait to get the hell out of that city (Miami Coral Park Sr.) took that leap 1st chance I had after high school and joined uncle sam ...Hahaa Told myself I'll never live there once I left! Hope I didn't offend anybody...Lol

The best city to visit though. It also seems to be the best location to choose if you want a quick hiring. Congrats to all the new EODers. Im jealous...

[s0lid snake]

Just got off the phone with the medical unit...they are very nice.

To anyone interested...they want depth perception from 70 arc or less.

Now all I have to wait is for my 3 month post-op date...Jan 6!

[Thor787]

Thanx Yoda for your comment. My cousin and my friend are in the same boat. Their scores are 85 and 90.

[SLC2009]

I have been told that I am waiting for funding for the position in SLC. Does anyone know how long it takes from this point? I am in day 40 of 30-60 days for Scheduling to contact me.

CBPO-Salt Lake City
Tested: 7/07
TO: 7/08
Drug Test: Passed
VBT: Passed
Fitness: Passed
Quals: GS-5
Medical: Completed
BI: Met with Investigator
Sent to Scheduling Unit October 22, 2008

Good news from TSU they said that they have no idea when vacancies come open so I am still waiting.....

[sap123]

For those of us in TSU still, did you get a letter confirming that your application was done? I remember getting one for my USBP app, but I've been in TSU for almost two weeks now and haven't gotten a letter saying so. My 30 days for USBP is tomorrow, so I'll call them up and see what they have to say.

[135i]

i plan on flying, unless i can find someone to share a ride down there.

[Orleanian84]

For those of us in TSU still, did you get a letter confirming that your application was done? I remember getting one for my USBP app, but I've been in TSU for almost two weeks now and haven't gotten a letter saying so. My 30 days for USBP is tomorrow, so I'll call them up and see what they have to say.

I received a letter telling me to be ready and exercise. but nothing saying I'm done.

[sap123]

I received a letter telling me to be ready and exercise. but nothing saying I'm done.

Well not 'done' per se, but more or less that your pre-employment processed was completed (i.e. all things in CASS have been checked off, you're off to TSU). Sorry I didn't clarify further. But yea, since I have to call TSU anyways tomorrow for USBP, I'll ask them to see if they have anything to say about it.

What I can figure at this point is that the January FLETC classes are filled up. So it looks like that those of us in TSU could be looking forwards to calls made later this month to schedule out the February FLETC classes. There's a month of leeway for pre-academy, for the interested.

[mi562]

after the acadamy how hard do you think it is to get in NY....The anoucement last week said FL, DC, TX, and CA...just wondering if there is still a possiblity in getting NY

Your spelling certainly won't get you into the port of your choice!

[yoda]

Your spelling certainly won't get you into the port of your choice!
LOL... Haven't seen you in here in a while MI.... I see you still got the touch:p:cool::D

[mi562]

LOL... Haven't seen you in here in a while MI.... I see you still got the touch:p:cool::D

;)

[Nel223]

Hello All, frist time poster here. I got the call on monday. It was a suprise one because I was expecting my BI to contact me. But instead, it was an offer from Scheduling Unit. I guess I am one of the lucky ones who got push through. Thanks for all the info. I will see some of you in FLETC class.

CBPO- SFO
Tested: Aug '08
TO: Sep '08
Quals: GS-7
Drug Test: Passed
VBT: Passed
Fitness: Passed
BI: completed in CASS...but havn't met my BI yet
EOD: Dec 22nd
FLETC: Jan 14th Class 923

[Orleanian84]

Well not 'done' per se, but more or less that your pre-employment processed was completed (i.e. all things in CASS have been checked off, you're off to TSU). Sorry I didn't clarify further. But yea, since I have to call TSU anyways tomorrow for USBP, I'll ask them to see if they have anything to say about it.

What I can figure at this point is that the January FLETC classes are filled up. So it looks like that those of us in TSU could be looking forwards to calls made later this month to schedule out the February FLETC classes. There's a month of leeway for pre-academy, for the interested.

When I completed everything back in June, I was only given a Cass msg saying I went to TSU and nothing more.

Wow, I think my medical expires sometime in Feb. So for me to eod before Feb. I would have to get a call before the end of this month?

[shopshop]

NEL223, so do I, they called me around 12:30pm at this monday, they will sent me to SFO at 12/22/08, then heading to FLETC around 01/14/09, I guess we will at the same class, Congradulation.

[sap123]

Wow, I think my medical expires sometime in Feb. So for me to eod before Feb. I would have to get a call before the end of this month?

I'm not sure. I mean I think you would have to be at pre-academy before then. But I really don't know to be honest.

Also, congrats to the Bay Area guys!

[E3CSHARP]

whoa! is my eyes deceiving me....... ?

[rbakous1]

Hello All, frist time poster here. I got the call on monday. It was a suprise one because I was expecting my BI to contact me. But instead, it was an offer from Scheduling Unit. I guess I am one of the lucky ones who got push through. Thanks for all the info. I will see some of you in FLETC class.

CBPO- SFO
Tested: Aug '08
TO: Sep '08
Quals: GS-7
Drug Test: Passed
VBT: Passed
Fitness: Passed
BI: completed in CASS...but havn't met my BI yet
EOD: Dec 22nd
FLETC: Jan 14th Class 923

Congratulations. I'm hoping for a very similar outcome myself.

[kc12]

So for me to eod before Feb. I would have to get a call before the end of this month?

They gave me a week and a half notice.

[bulldog777]

This is probably a dumb question seeing how there is not an exact time line on anything within this application process, but....Does anybody have an idea how long it takes for the Med Unit to clear you after they receive your response (test results, med records etc...) to an NMC letter?

[barnaj]

Hello, I am new here and in the process of a cbpo position. I have read through the forums now for about a month and decided to join. I am in the Los Angeles area. I have the following completed...
1) written-passed
2)Qualifications are in and complete
3) Medical-passed
4) fitness-passed
5)Drug Screening-passed
6) vbt-took it about a month ago but I haven't heard the results. I feel confident though.
7)BI-complete. Just waiting for it to clear

Can anyone tell me what the starting salary is at gs-5 for the Long Beach, LAX region? I found it somewhere but it was from a few years ago and want to know what it currently is.

Do I have a choice for the LA port or LAX? Or do they decide where I go? Also, if I get to choose, where has the most overtime? I'd eventually like to work at the port, but with the low starting salary I'd like to have some opportunity for ot. Thanks.

Do you mean that youve done your BI interview and its pending in CASS, or does it say completed in CASS? Here is a link to the pay scale:
https://www.opm.gov/oca/08tables/indexGS.asp;

[Orleanian84]

They gave me a week and a half notice.

I thought two weeks was the min?

[Wrangler81]

Dulles EOD Dec 22nd.. anyone joining me???

[barnaj]

In CASS it says background investigation completed. But, it said that the same day I met with my BI. I don't know how that is so. My BI told me she has a 2 week period to do it and turn it in. So I guess I am waiting for the adjudicator to clear it, right?

Yeah you got the basic idea. You probably never got in much trouble, so you look good on paper so they give you an interim clearance. It basically allows you to get scheduled for a FLETC and all that while they are putting the finishing touches on your BI. It helps them move people along quicker. It'll still have to be adjudicated and all that of course. Its a good thing.

[colinm112]

So currently gs-5 is 40,570 for cbpo in the Los angeles, Long Beach, Riverside Area? Can someone confirm this?

I wish :) thats overshooting by about 12,000

[barnaj]

So currently gs-5 is 40,570 for cbpo in the Los angeles, Long Beach, Riverside Area? Can someone confirm this?

Depends on the locality pay. I know the gs-5 for detroit area last year was $31,000 give or take. Im sure cali gets more but dont know if its that much more. You may have been looking at step 10 or something instead of step 1.

[CTRT]

So currently gs-5 is 40,570 for cbpo in the Los angeles, Long Beach, Riverside Area? Can someone confirm this?

32898

http://www.opm.gov/oca/08tables/html/la.asp

[CTRT]

This is for all locations.


http://www.opm.gov/oca/08tables/indexGS.asp

[USMC3537]

So currently gs-5 is 40,570 for cbpo in the Los angeles, Long Beach, Riverside Area? Can someone confirm this?

You're looking at $32,898 to start from what I see. $40,570 is the pay for step 8, but we will get paid at step 1 only.

[barnaj]

Now the day you start fletc and start getting paid, are you starting to put in your time on gs-5? So one year from your first day at fletc you will be at gs-7? or do you start after you finish fletc?

Actually one year from the day you EOD and start pre-academy. Better yet.

[CTRT]

You can expect at least 15,000$ more in OT,holiday ,evening and night pay and Sunday pay. So dont worry. evenings is an extra 15% ,nights is an extra 20% ,Sundays is an extra 50% and OT is double time!

[sap123]

You can expect at least 15,000$ more in OT,holiday ,evening and night pay and Sunday pay. So dont worry. evenings is an extra 15% ,nights is an extra 20% ,Sundays is an extra 50% and OT is double time!

As many CBPOs have said (namely Merlin), this is all contingent on what location you go to. Not all locations have a ton of overtime to give out.

[CTRT]

As many CBPOs have said (namely Merlin), this is all contingent on what location you go to. Not all locations have a ton of overtime to give out.

He is going to LA. Tons of OT. He will get more then 15k! The night,evening,Sun and holiday pay alone will be more then 5k.

I have worked at 4 ports, I also know a little bit about it.

[sap123]

He is going to LA. Tons of OT. He will get more then 15k! The night,evening,Sun and holiday pay alone will be more then 5k.

I have worked at 4 ports, I also know a little bit about it.

Oops, I thought you were just making a blanket statement cause you didn't quote anyone else's post. My bad.

[verbalkint4]

I'm sure LAX will overtime since it's a big airport, and a lot of action, but I am not counting my chickens before they hatch. Is the overtime forced? I understand it's shift work, so do you get a weekly schedule or how does it work? Now say you have a day off and you make plans that day, appointments, what not etc.., will they tell you the day before your day off and say you need to work for 10 hours on your day off?

Say I work a lot of overtime for like 3 weeks straight and the next week I don't want it, and want like 2 days off to go hunt or something. Is this reasonable within this agency, or do you hardly get anytime to really do much when your off duty? Can you also switch shifts with other cbpo here and there to better accommodate each others schedules?


OT can be forced. Most ports will try to let you know as far in advance as possible. Sometimes that's a couple of days, sometimes it's an hour. At the two ports I have worked at, you can request and OT excusal, or an excusal from being ordered for OT. You getting approved for it though is based on the needs of your port and on how many other people have put in for excusals. As for switching shifts, again, that's dependant on your port. Both ports I have worked at have allowed shift swapping as long as both parties agree.

[verbalkint4]

What is EOD? Is this where you go to your work location before starting the academy for a few weeks? Is it 40 hours a week? What do you do there? How should you dress for this? Do you get paid during this?

EOD is just your employment start date. It's not an actual shift or anything.

[sap123]

Called TSU to see where my app stands. Basically CBPO doesn't have any vacancies of today, but as I'm sure everyone will agree with me, that's only today. Things change. C'est la vie, right?

BPA is looking at a 45 day lead time in TSU at LEAST for CA locations. It would seem that the resources are shifting a bit from CA to AZ (which makes a lot of sense). So I guess I have a longer wait ahead of me. She also instructed me on how it works for when you have two apps in TSU, and if one calls and you accept, they typically will NOT call you until you're out of the academy. Which I found to be interesting.

Anywho, I'm thankful I get to spend Christmas with the family. Good luck to all of the EODers out there!

[verbalkint4]

So EOD is the date you start? That date you start gs-5 and one year from that exact date you will be gs-7?

Yes, you are correct.

[yoda]

What is EOD? Is this where you go to your work location before starting the academy for a few weeks? Is it 40 hours a week? What do you do there? How should you dress for this? Do you get paid during this?
Dude!
I though you said you had read through the thread... you sure are making lots of already answered 100 times already questions!....
If you're looking to get OT work, try to get LAX when you get the call... you need to understand that this is LE which most of the OT will be mandatory, and being the new guy and all, will get you stuck with all the worst time shifts, and extended time shifts, and not many days off at all... You want a regular 9-5 pick Long Beach, everything runs in a pretty predictable schedule there, and not so much OT work opportunities.
EOD is the day you report to your port for Pre Academy training, you dress business casual, and you get paid for this... As stated previously you will get paid on the first day you EOD and exactly one year later you go from a GS-5 to a GS-7, up until you hit GS-11.

[yoda]

Thank you Yoda. I apologize for not searching the thread first.

No need to apologize Hunter,
It just seems like you're excited and in a frantic search for all the questions that are popping up in your head, about the job and everything to do with it.
Just take a deep breath man...:D...do a bit of searching if you feel like it, or just do a jump of 30-40 pages back and give it a good read... I'm sure you'll find some more answers by skimming through old posts here...
Welcome to O.com and the Forum:cool:

[SevenSixTwo]

So I have tried digging through this thread to figure out how often the Academy starts for CBP. Does anyone know?

[sap123]

So I have tried digging through this thread to figure out how often the Academy starts for CBP. Does anyone know?

Seems to be one class a week. Sometimes 3 a month as far as I can tell.

[SevenSixTwo]

Seems to be one class a week. Sometimes 3 a month as far as I can tell.

TY!

[OVERCBPII]

sap123 sorry I havent got back to you. Will do soon! but to chime in on the money. Dude I've been in 6 years almost and I am already at 97K for YTD. So i will break 100K by Dec 31 I'm sure. I made 37K in OT alone in FY08. Thats doubletime, holiday pay, Sunday pay, and night diff for a part of the year. You can expect OT out the yang at all SW locations and all major airports. I can't speak for Northern Border Ports.

[OVERCBPII]

CBP classes dominate the chow hall, the locker room, the mat rooms at FLETC right now. Although it has slowed down from what it was in 06 and 07. It was crazier then

[OVERCBPII]

Sap123...dude go BP if you can over CBP They are really squared away and lots of opportunities for cooler TDYs and teams. Plus they are really big on merit and performance in the field in order to move up or around.

[OVERCBPII]

Depends on the locality pay. I know the gs-5 for detroit area last year was $31,000 give or take. Im sure cali gets more but dont know if its that much more. You may have been looking at step 10 or something instead of step 1.

OPM has pay tables out on the web where you can find all the GS salaries by locality (cities).

Take that and tack on your 15 or 20 percent night diff if you want to work swings or mids respectively, tack on double time if you want to work all 12 (12?) federal holidays, and tack on 20 some odd Gs of OT you will actually bill the govnt and you went from a GS-5 with a base of 40 to like 70 somthing Gs your first year on the job. (This is all very rough! just a disclaimer)...oh yeah and time and a half for Sunday pay 52 Sundays!

[jflores]

Hello all, first time posting, i just received all greens on cass qual gs-7 and was wondering what is the nest step now?... anyone know?? GEO Newark N.J.

[yoda]

Hello all, first time posting, i just received all greens on cass qual gs-7 and was wondering what is the nest step now?... anyone know?? GEO Newark N.J.

If you have everything checked off then all you have to do is wait for the call... if you would've gone a couple of pages back you would've seen the answer to your question....
Welcome to O.com and the Thread....:cool:

[audi0xpl0de]

If you have everything checked off then all you have to do is wait for the call... if you would've gone a couple of pages back you would've seen the answer to your question....
Welcome to O.com and the Thread....:cool:

A lot of those today.

[yoda]

A lot of those today.

LOL...Indeed:cool::D

[jflores]

Thanks Yoda...do you know how i can contact TSU to check the status on my location?

[yoda]

Thanks Yoda...do you know how i can contact TSU to check the status on my location?

You can call MHC to check up on your status...it's either one of these numbers... 612-467-7043 or 612-467-7027
One of these is for Receruitment/Examining and the other is MHC in general.

[merlin436]

sap123 sorry I havent got back to you. Will do soon! but to chime in on the money. Dude I've been in 6 years almost and I am already at 97K for YTD. So i will break 100K by Dec 31 I'm sure. I made 37K in OT alone in FY08. Thats doubletime, holiday pay, Sunday pay, and night diff for a part of the year. You can expect OT out the yang at all SW locations and all major airports. I can't speak for Northern Border Ports.

I can speak for the NB. There's little chance of capping out at most(read: smaller) NB ports. Theres also little chance of capping out at most of the interior(read: smaller) airports. Most of the seaports as well have limited OT.

In the 5 years I've been in, the most I've see for OT was 7.2K, the least...2.8K. My biggest salary(in a FY) was about 72K...that includes all diffs, holiday pay and the 7.2K in OT.

[sap123]

Thanks Yoda...do you know how i can contact TSU to check the status on my location?

Check your PMs.

Also, OVERCBPII: Don't worry about not getting back to me, I realize you guys are pretty busy. Thanks for your insight!

[kc12]

I thought two weeks was the min?

I received the call on a Monday to report two Mondays later. I do not consider that my offer. I don't believe anything in the government until it is in writing. I requested a written offer and received it the next day. So actually, I was just short of two weeks, by two days, but with rounding a week and a half is closest.

[sap123]

I received the call on a Monday to report two Mondays later. I do not consider that my offer. I don't believe anything in the government until it is in writing. I requested a written offer and received it the next day. So actually, I was just short of two weeks, by two days, but with rounding a week and a half is closest.

:) I like your style; I was planning on doing the exact same thing if/when I was to get called.

[matyoka]

Sap123...dude go BP if you can over CBP They are really squared away and lots of opportunities for cooler TDYs and teams. Plus they are really big on merit and performance in the field in order to move up or around.

You just forgot to tell the poor man about the 18 months required stay on the South border... Cooler TDYs? Like what for instance? Give an example as I cannot come up with one...

[yoda]

I have heard of the living conditions at fletc as either the "taj" or "crack houses". Can someone explain what it's like. do you get your own private room? share a room? How many people to a bathroom? Are females separate from males? Is there a fridge in your room or for you to use? For instance, say you just get done with physical training, and then you need to report to class. Do you go back to your housing and clean up, or go to locker rooms. You don't have to shower naked with other men do you?

The "taj" or "crackhouse" is one in the same (the older residence/dorm building) , from what has been posted here they have been accommodating 2 people per room from a few months back... This is a Federal Training Facility and I'm sure they will provide you with a Female Roommate if you are a Female, and you should have a Female Locker Room as well. As to room amenities, the newer buildings were set up originally as single units, laid out like a college dorm with a bed, tv, desk, bathroom, and I think a little fridge as well ( I was told by a friend who stayed in the new rooms at FLETC)... as to how they have arranged stuff now... I have no idea... someone who's at FLETC right now should answer...

[Agent A-Hop]

I chose San Diego as my location for the CBP....anyone else doing the same??

[sap123]

I chose San Diego as my location for the CBP....anyone else doing the same??

Right here friend. I'm in TSU, how far are you along?

[jflores]

Thanks Sap, i have seen the phrase pre-academy, does anyone know exactly what that is?

[Goosell]

I have heard of the living conditions at fletc as either the "taj" or "crack houses". Can someone explain what it's like. do you get your own private room? share a room? How many people to a bathroom? Are females separate from males? Is there a fridge in your room or for you to use? For instance, say you just get done with physical training, and then you need to report to class. Do you go back to your housing and clean up, or go to locker rooms. You don't have to shower naked with other men do you?

The taj are nicer housing that normally you have a roommate, but there are some people who don't get roomates also. They have a fridge and tv. Here's the catch though they are no where near classrooms, the gym, or the dining hall so you have to bus everywhere.

The crackhouses you will not have a roomate and you share your bathroom with one other person. there are no tvs or fridges but you can rent them from the fletc store.

As for your question bout gym and showering if you are in the crackhouses and have gym in the morning on your lunch break you could eat a quick meal then go to your room and shower. If your in the taj your pretty much sol, unless you want to shower in the locker room, which sucks to be honest. To be honest I'm really happy with the crackhouses, I go to the student center for lunch and take my food to my room and get ready for the second half of the day. Its within 5 mins of the dining hall, student center,gym, classroom. Way better than the taj imo.

[jwm0516]

...........

[sap123]

Thanks Sap, i have seen the phrase pre-academy, does anyone know exactly what that is?

3 weeks of you at your port you'll be working at tying off the loose ends to get employed, on top of boring training modules and pretty much wasting time (don't take my word for it, it's just the consensus around here for people that do it). You're there for that amount of time, and then off to camp! Don't forget your running shoes!

[yoda]

I stand corrected...
The Taj and the Crackhouses are not one in the same!

Taj= Newer Housing
Crackhouse= Older Housing
:D

[Ry greve]

He is going to LA. Tons of OT. He will get more then 15k! The night,evening,Sun and holiday pay alone will be more then 5k.

I have worked at 4 ports, I also know a little bit about it.

Wow, four ports? You get around. How did you manage that? I thought it took an executive order to transfer.

[Ry greve]

So EOD is the date you start? That date you start gs-5 and one year from that exact date you will be gs-7?

Correct. You EOD is also known as your annaversary date.

[merlin436]

Wow, four ports? You get around. How did you manage that? I thought it took an executive order to transfer.

Depending on the circumstances, it really might not be that hard to "work at four ports.

Though officially I've been a member of 2 ports in roughly 5 years, I've worked in (best guess) 10 ports in 4 states and roughly 15 crossings. Many of those have only been for a day or two, but I 'worked' in them.

Edit:

As far as transfers go...for the most part you're right. Expect them to be rare and difficult.

[Ry greve]

Depending on the circumstances, it really might not be that hard to "work at four ports.

Though officially I've been a member of 2 ports in roughly 5 years, I've worked in (best guess) 10 ports in 4 states and roughly 15 crossings. Many of those have only been for a day or two, but I 'worked' in them.

Edit:

As far as transfers go...for the most part you're right. Expect them to be rare and difficult.

Ok, I gotcha. Never a permanent change of duty station.

[merlin436]

Ok, I gotcha. Never a permanent change of duty station.

Come to think of it, there's an official port at the academy. Make it 5 states and 11 ports for me.:D

I can't speak for him, but I made one permanent move, and had one official TDY in there.(outside of training in Glynco)

My situation is probably atypical. Nearly every border crossing in MT, ND and northern MN is it's own port.

Edit: If he's on a CTRT(Counter-Terrorism Response Team), he may have done some moving about for that also.

[kc12]

Even the crackhouses are divided, from what I hear. The dorms by the G-bar share a bathroom with your neighbor. Dorms 95 and 96 have bathrooms to themsleves, but no other real improvment over the ones by the G-bar.

[barnaj]

Hey guys, just wanted to chime in on the housing at fletc. Mind you i was there in summer of '07, but the taj is the way to go. Of course i didnt have a roommate which could change everything, but i'll take the luxury with the mile walk to class anyday. I didnt eat breakfast so id get up around 6:15, watch the news while getting ready and be out the door by 10 minutes to 7, which left plenty of time to get some exercise walking the mile to class. I think i would have been much more miserable with a roomie though. If he got up at a different time, or snored, or wanted something in the fridge other than beer and water, or was helping himself to my smokes while i was not in the room. I could see why some trouble would arise. Its a toss up whether id rather have the cheapo crackhouse and my own room or the taj with a roommate. But in single rooms, the taj is the winner, hands down. Its a bad situation because the rooms are plenty big enough for one guy but way too small for two. Hopefully it'll change back to single rooms if and when i ever go back.

[audi0xpl0de]

I'm guessing you know nothing about where you'll be housed or about a roommate until the second you check-in, correct? Be nice to know before you head down there, but I know that's not always possible.

[barnaj]

I'm guessing you know nothing about where you'll be housed or about a roommate until the second you check-in, correct? Be nice to know before you head down there, but I know that's not always possible.

At the welcome center at the main gate where you get your i.d., you'll get your building assignment, but wont know your room or if you have a roomie, till you get to the lodging itself.

[jflores]

At what time does class begin and end at the academy? Is it 7 days a week?

[barnaj]

At what time does class begin and end at the academy? Is it 7 days a week?

Mon-Fri (or Saturday, if back to 6 days a week), never Sunday, starting at 7:30 am. On test days they ask you to be there 20 minutes early.

[jflores]

Approx. how long would it take for my file to go to TSU. I just called the hotline and it says everything is complete, CASS is still not updated. GEO Preference N.J.

[sap123]

Approx. how long would it take for my file to go to TSU. I just called the hotline and it says everything is complete, CASS is still not updated. GEO Preference N.J.

Takes a few days because your file has to be reviewed before it gets sent off. Both of my apps only waited for 2 days between all things completed and then TSU, so by next week you'll probably be good to go. Remember, it's not that it takes awhile for it to happen, it's that the status line/ CASS only updates so often.

[Borderpatrol007]

Has anyone heard when the next cbp officer open announcement will be??

[sap123]

Has anyone heard when the next cbp officer open announcement will be??

My prediction is next year at the earliest. The last announcement wasn't open that long, and I think that means there was something like3 announcements this year (someone correct me on this if I'm wrong, I actually only know of 3). My ballpark is late Februaray '09. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, PREDICTIONS AHOY!

[barnaj]

do you have to have your head shaved at fletc? what are the hair standards?

Like the military (not that strict though) or most police. No beards or goatees, reasonable sideburns and mustaches. No hair over the collar or afros, but anything within reason will not be looked down upon. As far as cbpo hiring openings, it seems they are always ones in the early part of the year (feb-may), then summer (july-august), sometimes fall (october). Usually 2-3 per year.

[jflores]

regarding work, do CBPO's really stay at the airport all day? Does the authority extend the limits of their port?

[barnaj]

regarding work, do CBPO's really stay at the airport all day? Does the authority extend the limits of their port?

Your authority is inspecting people who are applying for admittance to the united states. Unless extenuating circumstances deem otherwise, your not gonna be chasing people through and out of the airport like will smith and martin lawrence in bad boys or something! Catch the movie "the terminal" that'll give you a humorous look at the day to day goings on in an airport enviornment.

[yoda]

regarding work, do CBPO's really stay at the airport all day? Does the authority extend the limits of their port?
If you were looking for an action based job, then CBPO is not for you... You should've gone for BPA, or local PD... CBPO's are placed at POE and that's where you work all day long... be it the airport, border crossing or Seaport, that's where you'll be working... you don't go out on a patrol car, policing the neighborhood, chasing down bad guys... you are protecting the US from illegal aliens, counterfeit products, drugs, terrorist etc. from entering the country.:cool:
If this is not for you, I suggest you drop your TO and go look for a PD spot!:D
I'm sure other applicants are waiting in line to get a spot...
or
You could try ICE...

[Hound77]

No hair over the collar

You sure about that one? The last CBPO who checked my passport could have tried out for Jesus Christ Superstar.

[jflores]

In some threads i have read that CBPO's aren't really considered law enforcement? Is this true?? I wonder then would it be more difficult or less to be considered by the FBI, DEA, ICE,(for employment) or something else federal? any ideas

[qixfeet]

In some threads i have read that CBPO's aren't really considered law enforcement? Is this true?? I wonder then would it be more difficult or less to be considered by the FBI, DEA, ICE,(for employment) or something else federal? any ideas

I've never had that issue especially when executing a warrent for another agency. I've never had one of those people tell me you can't arrest me, you're not law enforcement.

[yoda]

In some threads i have read that CBPO's aren't really considered law enforcement? Is this true?? I wonder then would it be more difficult or less to be considered by the FBI, DEA, ICE,(for employment) or something else federal? any ideas

Dude... Once again, Drop your TO and go look for something else... By the looks of it you didn't even put the time in to research what a CBPO is and does, so you should really consider going for something else...
FYI-- CBPO's are Federal Law Enforcement Officers
It was not considered Law Enforcement for the LE retirement guidelines put forth by congress, NOW it is included as such for LE retirement...
Again...DROP your offer, and Good Luck on your future endeavors...

[Hound77]

That's a bit harsh, between the GS/GL pay issue, the recently changed retirement regs, and general "stamp monkey" trash talk you read other places there are a lot of things that could trip someone up.

I mean the system DOESN'T make sense, CBP has 20 year retirement but Secret Service have 30, while FBI has 20 etc etc. If you start from an assumption that Fed guidelines make any kind of rational sense it's easy to get lost.

[rbakous1]

In some threads i have read that CBPO's aren't really considered law enforcement? Is this true?? I wonder then would it be more difficult or less to be considered by the FBI, DEA, ICE,(for employment) or something else federal? any ideas

CBPO is considered law enforcement in every sense, by the nature of the job and by federal retirement definition (as of July 2008). LE is a diverse field so not every LE job is kicking down doors and roughing up bad guys, some of it is less glamorous. Getting considered for a CBP job is "easier" in terms of CBPO being an entry-level LE job. Therefore, you will not be required to demonstrate any significant job related or competitive work experience as required by FBI, DEA, and many ICE jobs. You fill out the same background forms as those other agencies and they check for the same things in the BI. If you are considering applying then apply, and if you get hired you can look at yourself in the mirror and honestly call yourself a "cop"

[depezhe]

The taj are nicer housing that normally you have a roommate, but there are some people who don't get roomates also. They have a fridge and tv. Here's the catch though they are no where near classrooms, the gym, or the dining hall so you have to bus everywhere.

The crackhouses you will not have a roomate and you share your bathroom with one other person. there are no tvs or fridges but you can rent them from the fletc store.

As for your question bout gym and showering if you are in the crackhouses and have gym in the morning on your lunch break you could eat a quick meal then go to your room and shower. If your in the taj your pretty much sol, unless you want to shower in the locker room, which sucks to be honest. To be honest I'm really happy with the crackhouses, I go to the student center for lunch and take my food to my room and get ready for the second half of the day. Its within 5 mins of the dining hall, student center,gym, classroom. Way better than the taj imo.



Great info thanks man!...

why does it suck to get showered in the locker room? how much is a tv or fridge rent? any HD TV"S available?:D

[Goosell]

Great info thanks man!...

why does it suck to get showered in the locker room? how much is a tv or fridge rent? any HD TV"S available?:D

It sucks showering in the locker room because it is so busy. I mean just getting in and changing sometimes is a pain, getting in the shower just adds hasle to everything.
As far as the tvs I believe they are 25 a month for like a 17 inch. And the fridges are like 15 a month. No hd tvs though.

[jwm0516]

Great info thanks man!...

why does it suck to get showered in the locker room? how much is a tv or fridge rent? any HD TV"S available?:D

The locker room is always really full of people. It's very uncomfrtable trying to get in and out and just get changed. You can rent from the FLETC express for relatively cheap prices or just buy off someone leaving that has a TV or Fridge. You can go out in town and pickup an HDTV but I don't think there are any for rent here.

[barnaj]

You sure about that one? The last CBPO who checked my passport could have tried out for Jesus Christ Superstar.

ahahahahahaha! well im just talkin academy regs. as far as the working poe goes, who knows what you'll see!?

[barnaj]

In some threads i have read that CBPO's aren't really considered law enforcement? Is this true?? I wonder then would it be more difficult or less to be considered by the FBI, DEA, ICE,(for employment) or something else federal? any ideas

Just depends on personal opinion and you have to consider what is said by all the "haters" out there. To me, badge, handcuffs, arrest authority, use of force continuim, etc all add up to law enforcement. I think people hear federal law enforcement and think FBI, ATF, and "customs" that they see in the movies and when they see the day to day workings of CBP, they are a little diappointed. There are many ways to enforce law and make the world a safer place and cbp is definitely one of them in my book.

[Orleanian84]

That's a bit harsh, between the GS/GL pay issue, the recently changed retirement regs, and general "stamp monkey" trash talk you read other places there are a lot of things that could trip someone up.

I mean the system DOESN'T make sense, CBP has 20 year retirement but Secret Service have 30, while FBI has 20 etc etc. If you start from an assumption that Fed guidelines make any kind of rational sense it's easy to get lost.

I thought SA positions at other agencies (FBI, DEA, ATF, etc.) was GS level similar to cbp. GL levels only go up so high and then it transfers to gs (GL-10 is the highest I believe)?

[merlin436]

I thought SA positions at other agencies (FBI, DEA, ATF, etc.) was GS level similar to cbp. GL levels only go up so high and then it transfers to gs (GL-10 is the highest I believe)?

I'm guessing he was referring to new hires/trainees at various agencies or those jobs that top out at or under GL-10, like IEA. You're right though, GL-10 is the upper limit of the GL scale.

[kc12]

The biggest difference in responsibility between CBPO and "traditional LE" is we don't officially do investigations. I'll tell you though I do as much of an investigation in CBPO as most of the cases I worked in local PD. Many street cops don't do extensive investigations if the agency has a detective bureau. I refer to the CBPO position as LE lite. We have most of the functions and abilities of LE and do as much of the job as most local PD street officers, but we don't have to go busting down doors or chasing people as often as the local officers.

Flores--I don't think CBPO helps or hurts much when applying for other jobs any more than local agency experience would, with the exception of ICE, maybe. ICE is a bit different because you will be working with the same laws, but, and its a big but, you won't be able to go in as a GS-7 with ICE from CBPO because you won't have investigative experience.

[Pawn922]

Catch the movie "the terminal" that'll give you a humorous look at the day to day goings on in an airport enviornment.

Check out the movie "Babel". It has a pretty intense CBPO scene.

[Orleanian84]

hey does anyone believe that the agencies will be reorganized the way they were pre 9/11 and the us customs service, ins, and border patrol will all became separate agencies again sometime in the future.
the reason why I'm asking is because I remember my bi (who was a former customs agent) mentioning that there was talk that it may happen and he said it would do great good to the employees? any truth?

[sap123]

hey does anyone believe that the agencies will be reorganized the way they were pre 9/11 and the us customs service, ins, and border patrol will all became separate agencies again sometime in the future.
the reason why I'm asking is because I remember my bi (who was a former customs agent) mentioning that there was talk that it may happen and he said it would do great good to the employees? any truth?

One way or another we'll find out next year I'm sure.

[qixfeet]

hey does anyone believe that the agencies will be reorganized the way they were pre 9/11 and the us customs service, ins, and border patrol will all became separate agencies again sometime in the future.
the reason why I'm asking is because I remember my bi (who was a former customs agent) mentioning that there was talk that it may happen and he said it would do great good to the employees? any truth?


I hear the same thing from union reps, but I'll believe it when I see it. I think it would help stop some of the bleeding from the agency. I think it would make the agency more effective. This one size fits all crap doesn't work.

[Firebug]

hey does anyone believe that the agencies will be reorganized the way they were pre 9/11 and the us customs service, ins, and border patrol will all became separate agencies again sometime in the future.
the reason why I'm asking is because I remember my bi (who was a former customs agent) mentioning that there was talk that it may happen and he said it would do great good to the employees? any truth?

I doubt it. Also, for the sake of being accurate pre 9/11, Border Patrol was under the INS and were not separate agency.

FB

[will0861]

For all you guys wanting to know the duties of a CBPO, there will be a show on ABC, Homeland Security USA. Looks to be a "COPS" style show covering all DHS agencies, CBP, USCG, and so on. On about January 1st I believe. Looks to be pretty cool. From what they showed it was a camera crew following people while they perform their duties.

Also, there was a series on the National Geographic Channel called Americas Port. It was about the daily operations of the LA seaport, but CBP was a major part of the show. I think it was only a limited number of shows, but wouldn't hurt to try to find it in case you want more information.

[fedcopboston]

We had a very bad day here on Friday in Boston. Our beloved Port Director was arrested.:mad: Unfortunately, I was involved with this case. I am on her side because there are circumstances not reported in the paper or that I can state here. We are hoping that all this gets cleared up soon. She had a tremendous showing in support of her outside of the courthouse. Hey Merlin, have you guys heard about this? Here is the article:

Feds: Boston Homeland Security honcho harbored illegal alien
By Richard Weir
Friday, December 5, 2008

A U.S. Homeland Security director charged with keeping illegal aliens from entering New England ports was busted this morning for allegedly employing a Brazilian housekeeper who snuck into the United States unlawfully, federal prosecutors charged.

Lorraine Henderson, 50, who supervised a staff of 220 employees as the Boston Area Port Director since 2003, was caught on tape in May warning her cleaning woman to be “careful” not to get caught by custom agents, according to an affidavit unsealed today. “You have to be careful ’cause they will deport you. Be careful,” Henderson allegedly advised her housekeeper, who cooperated with authorities by wearing a wiretap while working in Henderon’s Salem condo. “If you leave they won’t let you back. You can’t leave, don’t leave ’cause once you leave you will never be back,” she told the woman, who entered the United States illegally through Mexico, according to prosecutors.

Henderson, who surrendered her badge and gun, will be arraigned this afternoon in U.S. District Court. She faces up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine if she is convicted of the charge of harboring an illegal alien.
As Boston area port director for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Henderson is responsible for overseeing the arrival and departure of people and cargo at airports and shipping ports in Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island, including Logan and Bradley international airports.

© Copyright 2008 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[rbakous1]

We had a very bad day here on Friday in Boston. Our beloved Port Director was arrested.:mad: Unfortunately, I was involved with this case. I am on her side because there are circumstances not reported in the paper or that I can state here. We are hoping that all this gets cleared up soon.

That article is pretty compelling. I hope for your Port Director's sake those circumstances you're talking about are pretty extraordinary. :(

[merlin436]

hey does anyone believe that the agencies will be reorganized the way they were pre 9/11 and the us customs service, ins, and border patrol will all became separate agencies again sometime in the future.
the reason why I'm asking is because I remember my bi (who was a former customs agent) mentioning that there was talk that it may happen and he said it would do great good to the employees? any truth?

Put me in as a doubter also.

First, there's little of legacy Customs or legacy INS left, and most(or close to it) officers are legacy CBP. How would they divide people up? Not easily. Even if they divided things internally, who's deciding who goes where? Management? The Officers? Expect to see a huge mess with that and the union going bonkers. Years of hassle.

Second, it would be a huge admission of failure on the part of CBP/DHS; I don't see them swallowing that pill willingly.

Long shot...BP goes off on their own. Very long shot.

[merlin436]

Hey Merlin, have you guys heard about this?

Yes, but really no more than what's in the papers and what's out in the public.

Either a case of titanic stupidity and arrogance or there's a lot more to it than what I've heard.

[madchiken]

I still like the idea/rumor of having a basic immigration academy. Then people would have to put their time in at the ports and doing cap, then go to advanced training for patrol, and then advanced training for investigations.

Somewhat like the locals do with court/detention deputies, before going to the road. Then after a few years on the road you can "specialize".. DO, OI, ASU, etc..

[merlin436]

I like that idea...I'm not so sure how it would work with OFO though. What would they do with the customs side of the house?

[jflores]

i took the written exam in Feb 2007 and just cleared the entire process on the hotline. if i don't get called by Feb of '09 will my written exam expire?

[jflores]

By the way Thank You guys for your input

[audi0xpl0de]

i took the written exam in Feb 2007 and just cleared the entire process on the hotline. if i don't get called by Feb of '09 will my written exam expire?

If you cleared everything and are getting ready to enter TSU then I wouldn't think you'd have to worry about your written test.

[merlin436]

Are the uniforms you wear pretty standard whether you work at airport, seaport? etc.. I will probably be working at the airport so I don't know if I should invest in some nicer Danner boots if I won't be able to wear them.

No. Uniforms change depending on job duty.

Wearing boots at the airport...not likely.

Wait until you're hired and out of the academy before buying anything. (Good advice for every new hire.) Much of what you think you'll need later, you'll probably won't. Or, it'll be given to you...or you'll have it available to get with uniform allowance money.

Save your cash until you know what you'll need.

[Firebug]

No. Uniforms change depending on job duty.

Wearing boots at the airport...not likely.

Wait until you're hired and out of the academy before buying anything. (Good advice for every new hire.) Much of what you think you'll need later, you'll probably won't. Or, it'll be given to you...or you'll have it available to get with uniform allowance money.

Save your cash until you know what you'll need.

I wore boots at the airport everyday for five years. That being said, you are only supposed to wear items purchased thru the uniform vender VFsolutions. You can't do that until after you EOD and an account is set up for you.

FB

[jflores]

Anyone stationed at Newark N.J (EWR) currently? I just wanted some info on how the schedule is there. Is there plenty of O.T.? How soon will they ask for new hires?

[sap123]

Anyone stationed at Newark N.J (EWR) currently? I just wanted some info on how the schedule is there. Is there plenty of O.T.? How soon will they ask for new hires?

Im not an employee or anything, but I do know that there were a handful of applicants that just got the call last week or the week before that. Most of them have been waiting as long as 6 months, so I'm not sure how long it will be depending on when you entered TSU.

[merlin436]

I wore boots at the airport everyday for five years. That being said, you are only supposed to wear items purchased thru the uniform vender VFsolutions. You can't do that until after you EOD and an account is set up for you.

FB

Were you working cargo?

You'd know better than me but I'm thinking class 2's and Danners are a likely mismatch. Since I can't recall that last time I wore class 2's, I could very well be wrong.

[Firebug]

Were you working cargo?

You'd know better than me but I'm thinking class 2's and Danners are a likely mismatch. Since I can't recall that last time I wore class 2's, I could very well be wrong.

Passenger processing in a primary booth and secondary. Boots can be worn with the class 2 uniform.

FB

[kc12]

Anyone stationed at Newark N.J (EWR) currently? I just wanted some info on how the schedule is there. Is there plenty of O.T.? How soon will they ask for new hires?

A buddy of mine works there. He was saying there is a lot of O/T at the airport. He also said in the last 8-9 months they have hired a lot of people.

[jflores]

How long does it take to be sent to TSU? How long does it take TSU to schedule you?

[winnerwinner]

Hi, New here, glad to have found you guys!

I searched but was not able to find an answer....my Geo Pref is WA-all other locations. Hoping for Port Angeles or even Spokane. What are the odds of that vs. Seattle? Big cities are not really my thing!

Thanks!

[audi0xpl0de]

How long does it take to be sent to TSU? How long does it take TSU to schedule you?

They will do a final review to make sure everything is complete and send it over. Should be a week or so. Other part could be a few days, weeks, or months. Depends on slots available.

[jflores]

They will do a final review to make sure everything is complete and send it over. Should be a week or so. Other part could be a few days, weeks, or months. Depends on slots available.

Thanks audi0, anyone know if slots are still available in N.J. i see KC12 said "


A buddy of mine works there. He was saying there is a lot of O/T at the airport. He also said in the last 8-9 months they have hired a lot of people.

[NAL06]

I received a TO for the Buffalo Field Office a few weeks back, then sent in all paperwork last week. Any advice for someone who will be taking the VBT?

[audi0xpl0de]

I received a TO for the Buffalo Field Office a few weeks back, then sent in all paperwork last week. Any advice for someone who will be taking the VBT?

Dress to impress and keep a customer service mindset.

[jflores]

I received a TO for the Buffalo Field Office a few weeks back, then sent in all paperwork last week. Any advice for someone who will be taking the VBT?

Dress in Business attire, meaning suit, tie and jacket.

[NAL06]

Thanks, I'll make sure of it.

[qixfeet]

Passenger processing in a primary booth and secondary. Boots can be worn with the class 2 uniform.

FB

You are 100% correct. I wear boots everyday. The Danners are great.

[gms632]

I got the call today for the Philadelphia POE. Not sure if I want to move 5½ across the state… they told me I have 24 hours to let them know (report Dec 29 to Philly, Jan 22 to FLETC). FYI, they did say there are 4 openings left at that POE. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should wear for my OJT? Thanks in advance for your help.

[NiNGods]

Hello all. Got "THE" call and have an EOD of Dec 22nd for Champlain, NY, with a FLETC date of Jan 15th. Anyone else reporting to this port at this time?

[alutins]

Hi, New here, glad to have found you guys!

I searched but was not able to find an answer....my Geo Pref is WA-all other locations. Hoping for Port Angeles or even Spokane. What are the odds of that vs. Seattle? Big cities are not really my thing!

Thanks!

Good question. I am exactly the opposite of you. I'm also GEO Pref WA-all other locations. I REALLY hope that I do get a Port of Tacoma, Seattle, SeaTac or even Tukwilla DHS position. I really don't want to be in Port Angeles, Longview or Spokane... winnerwinner, maybe we can swap if necessary?:)

Does anyone have experience in WA state as to how many employees each location here has? I would guess that being a large airport, SeaTac has to be the likely destination for someone just having finished FLETC, and a Geo pref of WA state-all other locations.

[alutins]

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/americas-port/all/Overview#tab-Videos/05307_00

under the video are about 10 other vids of the show's preview.

[SevenSixTwo]

Can anyone confirm whether or not broadband access is available in the living quarters?

[tigers2007]

Can anyone confirm whether or not broadband access is available in the living quarters?

No broadband in any of the quarters. The taj was once wired for broadband but it was stripped out when Marriott sold them. I peaked into a LAN room and the only thing left were the 19" racks lol.

You can find free, but crappy, wireless internet at the G-Bar/Student Center. I personally used a Sprint card in my room with a 5dBi gain external antenna. At first I was using bluetooth teathering from my cellphone but that got old quick. Some rooms don't get any service and some get great service (near the top of the building). I think Verizon has a tower very close to FLETC as I would have to fight my wireless devices to utilize roaming over the Sprint towers (which have a weak EVDO signal).

[tigers2007]

Anyone have ANY information on when VF Solutions will open again? Must be nice to own a business that just stops working for two and a half months a year.

[merlin436]

Anyone have ANY information on when VF Solutions will open again? Must be nice to own a business that just stops working for two and a half months a year.

I heard the 15th.

I'm not holding my breath.

[Wrangler81]

I got the call today for the Philadelphia POE. Not sure if I want to move 5½ across the state… they told me I have 24 hours to let them know (report Dec 29 to Philly, Jan 22 to FLETC). FYI, they did say there are 4 openings left at that POE. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should wear for my OJT? Thanks in advance for your help.

Congrats! sEE YA @ FLETC.. i don't know about you... but the next 2 weeks are alreadying flying by trying to make all these arrangements n such

[jman26]

can anyone tell me what the dress code for eod? thank you... congrats to all people going in january see you there!

[135i]

can anyone tell me what the dress code for eod? thank you... congrats to all people going in january see you there!

i was told by my port (newark) to dress in business attire.

[NiNGods]

can anyone tell me what the dress code for eod? thank you... congrats to all people going in january see you there!


Business casual which is a pair of slacks (like khakis) , not jeans, dress shirt (like a polo shirt) and colored socks with dress shoes. Formal informal if you get me. See you in January.

[kc12]

Anyone have ANY information on when VF Solutions will open again? Must be nice to own a business that just stops working for two and a half months a year.

The last thing I heard was they were waiting for funding. Kind of like we're working on funding levels from last year. Those funds will last until early spring or late winter.

[Wrangler81]

Anyone Out There Dulles Eod 12/22???

Also... Any1 Wanna Carpool To Fletc On Jan 15th Outta Dulles Or Somewhere Closeby?????

[qixfeet]

Anyone Out There Dulles Eod 12/22???

Also... Any1 Wanna Carpool To Fletc On Jan 15th Outta Dulles Or Somewhere Closeby?????

My advise would be to drive yourself, get the travel money and you will have your own vehicle while at Fletc. You don't want to have to depend on the fletc shuttle or someone else when you want to get off base.

[Don951]

Has anyone taken the BP exam, did you think it was more difficult than the cbpo test?

[GeM168]

Hello all. Got "THE" call and have an EOD of Dec 22nd for Champlain, NY, with a FLETC date of Jan 15th. Anyone else reporting to this port at this time?

Congrats, see you there at FLETC.

[sap123]

Has anyone taken the BP exam, did you think it was more difficult than the cbpo test?

I'd say the level of difficulty really depends on your deficiencies in any particular subject. If you're decent with languages, you'll be fine for the USBP test. If you're good with math, you'll be alright with the CBPO test. As it turns out, I'm a language/writing guy; I'm not a math guy. It showed in my score.

[OVERCBPII]

Congrats! sEE YA @ FLETC.. i don't know about you... but the next 2 weeks are alreadying flying by trying to make all these arrangements n such

check with the local admin people at the POE. But you can't go wrong with dockers or slacks and a button down collared shirt or pullover three button polo. NO tennis shoes that looks tacky. the shoes don't have to be shineable but they should be nice shoes. Suit would be overkill. They might have you move boxes shred paper assemble office furniture etc etc so be flexible.

good luck!

[jflores]

I just want to be clear, after i'm referred to TSU it means i have the job? i only ask because it looks like the company i work for will be going out of business soon.

[audi0xpl0de]

I just want to be clear, after i'm referred to TSU it means i have the job? i only ask because it looks like the company i work for will be going out of business soon.

Not until you have an EOD date. You could be in TSU for months if a spot isn't there.

[C-BPO]

I chose San Diego as my location for the CBP....anyone else doing the same??

Same here...just got my letter stating I qualify for gs-7. Just have the BI to get through, I'm hoping they set up a meeting this week! Process has been moving fast for me, seems to go in approx. 2 week cycles. Very excited, hope to see you in San Diego :)

[sap123]

Same here...just got my letter stating I qualify for gs-7. Just have the BI to get through, I'm hoping they set up a meeting this week! Process has been moving fast for me, seems to go in approx. 2 week cycles. Very excited, hope to see you in San Diego :)

Not sure if you're following the thread that close, but you're not missing much, as TSU told me last week that there weren't any vacancies for CA- SW border. Hoping that changes soon though. Good luck!

[C-BPO]

Not sure if you're following the thread that close, but you're not missing much, as TSU told me last week that there weren't any vacancies for CA- SW border. Hoping that changes soon though. Good luck!

Well, in any case I'm excited to eventually be referred to TSU so I can hurry up & wait with the rest of you....and I'm sure more spots will open up soon enough. Also, even though this is many years in the works there is another POE opening up in San Diego, east of the current Otay Mesa crossing.... http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20081208-0657-governor.html So, just a guess, but CBP will most likely be hiring like crazy over the next couple of years....just a guess. Thanks BTW, take care!

[CTRT]

Anyone have ANY information on when VF Solutions will open again? Must be nice to own a business that just stops working for two and a half months a year.


THE CBP UNIFORM VENDOR, VF SOLUTIONS WEBSITE IS SCHEDULED TO RE-OPEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2009 ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 15TH.
FULL TIME UNIFORMED FIELD OPERATIONS EMPLOYEES IN THE FOLLOWING SERIES (GS-1895 0401, 1801, 0340, 0343, 0301) WILL RECEIVE AN ON-GOING ALLOWANCE OF $800.00
THE FIRST YEAR ALLOWANCE FOR FULL TIME UNIFORMED EMPLOYEES IN THE ABOVE SERIES IS $1,000.00.
FULL TIME UNIFORMED FIELD OPERATIONS EMPLOYEES IN THE GS-1802 SERIES WILL RECEIVE AN ONGOING ALLOWANCE OF $640.00.
THE FIRST YEAR ALLOWANCE FOR FULL TIME UNIFORMED EMPLOYEES IN THE ABOVE SERIES IS $800.00.

[yoda]

Well, in any case I'm excited to eventually be referred to TSU so I can hurry up & wait with the rest of you....and I'm sure more spots will open up soon enough. Also, even though this is many years in the works there is another POE opening up in San Diego, east of the current Otay Mesa crossing.... http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20081208-0657-governor.html So, just a guess, but CBP will most likely be hiring like crazy over the next couple of years....just a guess. Thanks BTW, take care!

You don't need to be referred to TSU to "Hurry Up and Wait!"... you already are... and unless you are granted an "interim" clearance you won't be in TSU until you meet with your investigator and your BI gets cleared...
Good Luck and Welcome to the waiting game...:cool:

[CTRT]

Come to think of it, there's an official port at the academy. Make it 5 states and 11 ports for me.:D

I can't speak for him, but I made one permanent move, and had one official TDY in there.(outside of training in Glynco)

My situation is probably atypical. Nearly every border crossing in MT, ND and northern MN is it's own port.

Edit: If he's on a CTRT(Counter-Terrorism Response Team), he may have done some moving about for that also.

4 PCS moves, 3 in the USA 1 out of the USA(2 airports 2 seaports. I am a CTR Instructor , so yes you are right that helps moving around. I am Legacy-C so I trained at the old port. But no I am not counting that as one of my 4.

[Barbrady]

Reference CASS, my fitness, drug screening, and VBT, have been completed for awhile. Forms completed today. That leaves medical and qualifications. I am surprised qualifications have not cleared since forms finally did...as you all know it is first things you turn in. Oh well, I know you guys have said there is no rhyme or reason to the madness. But, I am anxious like the next guy. The first of the new year would be nice.

[sap123]

Reference CASS, my fitness, drug screening, and VBT, have been completed for awhile. Forms completed today. That leaves medical and qualifications. I am surprised qualifications have not cleared since forms finally did...as you all know it is first things you turn in. Oh well, I know you guys have said there is no rhyme or reason to the madness. But, I am anxious like the next guy. The first of the new year would be nice.

What's your timeline our of curiosity?

[USMC3537]

Has anyone taken the BP exam, did you think it was more difficult than the cbpo test?

I took both and personally I think the BP was easier. I can't remember exactly why I think that, but I remember after taking the BP test that I was thinking "that was pretty easy," then after the CBP my brain was fried. Maybe it was just the math...

[Goosell]

You don't need to be referred to TSU to "Hurry Up and Wait!"... you already are... and unless you are granted an "interim" clearance you won't be in TSU until you meet with your investigator and your BI gets cleared...
Good Luck and Welcome to the waiting game...:cool:

Do you ever stop talking crap to everyone that posts here? Your attitude is why you're not a CBPO.

[sap123]

I have seen pictures and stuff of people at fletc that are boozing it up pretty hard. I hear they sell alcohol on fletc and have a bar, but what is the attitude of all the instructors that the students/recruits are partying and getting wasted? I am not planning on partying there, I just didn't know it would be so lax. Can anyone confirm what the attitudes are like at fletc regarding all the boozing? I am just very surprised by this.

I don't think anyone who works at FLETC gives two craps about what you do outside of the time you are with them in their classroom, or on their gym floor, or whatever. You're here for the job, so you're treated like a responsible adult. That being said, there's bound to be a that minority that will treat it like it's college again (I asked my local ICE SAIC one time what FLETC was like and he just replied "well, it's a lot like college...with guns"). That's to be somewhat expected I guess. Also you'll find guys on here that talk about winding down in between weeks and trying to get away, as well as finding posts about older guys getting ****y that there are younger guys that they are rooming with who stay out late or something. Honestly, I just don't give it that much thought. If I'm on salary to do a job, I'm going to do it and give it my best. I'm young, but I'm not a party animal or cause for creating ruckus or anything. Anything beyond that is my business, but I don't think it warrants a lot of worry. You are the company you keep. Keep your head down, don't be 'THAT GUY' in your class, and things will work out.

Just my 0.02USD

[Barbrady]

What's your timeline our of curiosity?

Miami
TO: Sep
Fitness/Medical: Oct
VBT, BI: Nov

I know I have nothing to complain about. It does seem that Miami is accelerated. My medical delay is no surprise since they made me see a Psychiatrist because I was prescribed Ambien once. Crossing my fingers.

[Bizzy930]

Glad I found this thread! I got the "call" yesterday, about 5 months since I first submitted my application. I am to report to my assigned location (San Francisco) on the 29th and off to Georgia in mid Jan. for academy. Anybody here joining me?

[barnaj]

I have seen pictures and stuff of people at fletc that are boozing it up pretty hard. I hear they sell alcohol on fletc and have a bar, but what is the attitude of all the instructors that the students/recruits are partying and getting wasted? I am not planning on partying there, I just didn't know it would be so lax. Can anyone confirm what the attitudes are like at fletc regarding all the boozing? I am just very surprised by this.

If you could collect all the beer cans that will be emptied at FLETC during your 4 months there and bring them to Michigan for the deposit, you'd be rich enough not to need the job...

[qixfeet]

If you could collect all the beer cans that will be emptied at FLETC during your 4 months there and bring them to Michigan for the deposit, you'd be rich enough not to need the job...

:D I should've thought of that when I was there!

[Nel223]

Glad I found this thread! I got the "call" yesterday, about 5 months since I first submitted my application. I am to report to my assigned location (San Francisco) on the 29th and off to Georgia in mid Jan. for academy. Anybody here joining me?

Congrads Bizzy, look like we will be in the same FLECT class. I will start my pre-Academy on Dec 22. See you at
SFO

[merlin436]

I have seen pictures and stuff of people at FLETC that are boozing it up pretty hard. I hear they sell alcohol on FLETC and have a bar, but what is the attitude of all the instructors that the students/recruits are partying and getting wasted? I am not planning on partying there, I just didn't know it would be so lax. Can anyone confirm what the attitudes are like at FLETC regarding all the boozing? I am just very surprised by this.


FLETC is often a very stressful place.

People take up drinking, smoking, and other crutches in order to unwind and relax. As long as people use common sense and a bit of moderation there's little harm to it.
Those who treat it like "Spring Break/ Animal House" probably won't make it through the program.

[yoda]

Goosell & Kiddie
PM's sent!...
Both of you guys are acting like little kids....How about you guys grow up for a change!...

[Bizzy930]

Goosell & Kiddie
PM's sent!...
Both of you guys are acting like little kids....How about you guys grow up for a change!...
Yoda, I can see how you come across a little harsh. Everybody here on this board is entitled to have their questions answered without being bashed on....;)

[kc12]

That's amazing. I really am shocked. I heard you run anywhere from 1.5-7 miles a day at fletc, and all the other things like push ups and stuff. How do all these people stay in shape slamming down beers like that

The only physical fitness you're evaluated on is the run. If you pass it at the beginning then you don't need to pass it at the end. The rest just do your best. If you are in a class like mine, where we had it together, a bad day every once in a while won't hurt. If you're in a class like some I've heard of, you'll be pushed harder, but do what you can do.

[barnaj]

That's amazing. I really am shocked. I heard you run anywhere from 1.5-7 miles a day at fletc, and all the other things like push ups and stuff. How do all these people stay in shape slamming down beers like that

Haha, 7 miles a day. Sounds like someone youve been talking to has sensationalized the p.t. program! But, even if that was the case, like was stated earlier, its participation only except for the PEB run so as long as youre trying you'll be fine. You'd be suprised, i was there in the summer, humid and 90-100 degrees all the time and i walked everywhere. Between that and the fitness programs and d.t., i dropped about 25 pounds without even trying and drinking everyday basically.

[jflores]

The only physical fitness you're evaluated on is the run. If you pass it at the beginning then you don't need to pass it at the end. The rest just do your best. If you are in a class like mine, where we had it together, a bad day every once in a while won't hurt. If you're in a class like some I've heard of, you'll be pushed harder, but do what you can do.

So how soon in the begining do you take the 1.5 mile run test? And if you fail it you could make it up in the end??

[merlin436]

That's amazing. I really am shocked. I heard you run anywhere from 1.5-7 miles a day at fletc, and all the other things like push ups and stuff. How do all these people stay in shape slamming down beers like that

I ran well over 6 miles with one instructor.

FLETC has people there from dozens of different agencies and different programs, including advanced training. A lot of the 'party people' will not be CBP and a lot will not be new trainees.

This 'party reputation' thing is getting out of hand, IMO. Yes, there is plenty of alcohol on the base, and yes, you'll find people to drink with...if you go looking, but by far the majority of people are looking and working towards graduating, not partying.

[cby]

I asked to chg my location they told me I will have to re-apply do I have to re-test?


I chose Washington State

[LSevilla]

I have research every thread and finally decided to write. I decided last month to join CBP after a long conversation from my brother which happens to be a Field Operations Supervisor in BP (New Mexico). Anyway, I took the written on December 1st and passed with a 88. My Geo Location is Florida. I am a little nervous cause In the past like alot of young man, I had some legal problems. Nothing which relates to Violence, drugs or felonies of no sort. Just wondering how hard are they? I really want this for myself and family and believe that I an ready for a positon with CBP just still worried on how hard they will be. Anyway, thanks for all the great threads cause it definitely has helped me understand more of whats to come. Good luck to everyone who is waiting and to those that are already heading out Congrats and do your best

[barnaj]

I asked to chg my location they told me I will have to re-apply do I have to re-test?


I chose Washington State

When you apply online it will know by your ssn that youve tested and should ask you "would you like to reuse this test score?" If it was a decent passing score just use it again. Because if you wake up on the wrong side of the bed and fail or score lower they will use that score.

[dam1ewr]

Im new on here and got the call last week to start on December 15th at Newark and January 22 for FLETC Class 923. Anyone else have that start date for newark?

[barnaj]

I have research every thread and finally decided to write. I decided last month to join CBP after a long conversation from my brother which happens to be a Field Operations Supervisor in BP (New Mexico). Anyway, I took the written on December 1st and passed with a 88. My Geo Location is Florida. I am a little nervous cause In the past like alot of young man, I had some legal problems. Nothing which relates to Violence, drugs or felonies of no sort. Just wondering how hard are they? I really want this for myself and family and believe that I an ready for a positon with CBP just still worried on how hard they will be. Anyway, thanks for all the great threads cause it definitely has helped me understand more of whats to come. Good luck to everyone who is waiting and to those that are already heading out Congrats and do your best

Well there is no set in stone answer that i can give you. It seems to all be a case by case, adjudicator by adjudicator type thing. Some people may be found suitable and have the same offense in their background that another may be found unsuitable for. I guess it all depends on how your file is written up and how you presented yourself and who makes the final decision on your case.

[barnaj]

Im new on here and got the call last week to start on December 15th at Newark and January 22 for FLETC Class 923. Anyone else have that start date for newark?

Damn, you're in pre-academy for a lifetime. Maybe because of all the holidays. That sucks, but congrats on getting the job though.

[NAL06]

After taking the VBT, do they inform you if you pass, or do you have to wait a week or 2?...I can't seem to find a def. answer on this

[dam1ewr]

Sorry I got my dates mixed up. I go to Fletc January 14th. So it isn't too long but seems to be a week longer than everyone else in 923. It is probably from the holidays and also because the classes were filled already for that start date.

[barnaj]

After taking the VBT, do they inform you if you pass, or do you have to wait a week or 2?...I can't seem to find a def. answer on this

You'll get a pass/fail notice of results in the mail in a couple weeks.

[audi0xpl0de]

After taking the VBT, do they inform you if you pass, or do you have to wait a week or 2?...I can't seem to find a def. answer on this

You'll usually get a letter in the mail in 2-3 weeks. CASS also updates and lets you know if you passed. First it has to be reviewed by a panel.

[USMC3537]

After taking the VBT, do they inform you if you pass, or do you have to wait a week or 2?...I can't seem to find a def. answer on this

Took a month for me.

[merlin436]

I have research every thread and finally decided to write. I decided last month to join CBP after a long conversation from my brother which happens to be a Field Operations Supervisor in BP (New Mexico). Anyway, I took the written on December 1st and passed with a 88. My Geo Location is Florida. I am a little nervous cause In the past like alot of young man, I had some legal problems. Nothing which relates to Violence, drugs or felonies of no sort. Just wondering how hard are they? I really want this for myself and family and believe that I an ready for a positon with CBP just still worried on how hard they will be. Anyway, thanks for all the great threads cause it definitely has helped me understand more of whats to come. Good luck to everyone who is waiting and to those that are already heading out Congrats and do your best


What did you do?
When did you do it?
How old were you at the time?
How was it finally resolved?

Depending on the answers to those and other questions, things could go 'hard' or things could go 'not so hard'. With out knowing the particulars there's not much guidance I can give you.

Be truthful. Lots of folks get hung out to dry over lying about minor stuff that at worst would have only cost them the time and effort needed to work their way past it.

[Bizzy930]

Sorry I got my dates mixed up. I go to Fletc January 14th. So it isn't too long but seems to be a week longer than everyone else in 923. It is probably from the holidays and also because the classes were filled already for that start date.
CONGRATS! Good Luck in the academy!

[cby]

Thanks Barnaj you've been a great help, I got 86 and I'm waiting for my B.I , medical and Qualifications. Anyone in Washington State???

[barnaj]

Thanks Barnaj you've been a great help, I got 86 and I'm waiting for my B.I , medical and Qualifications. Anyone in Washington State???

Not a problem, thats the whole idea of the forum i think.
Good luck with the process.

[NiNGods]

I have research every thread and finally decided to write. I decided last month to join CBP after a long conversation from my brother which happens to be a Field Operations Supervisor in BP (New Mexico). Anyway, I took the written on December 1st and passed with a 88. My Geo Location is Florida. I am a little nervous cause In the past like alot of young man, I had some legal problems. Nothing which relates to Violence, drugs or felonies of no sort. Just wondering how hard are they? I really want this for myself and family and believe that I an ready for a positon with CBP just still worried on how hard they will be. Anyway, thanks for all the great threads cause it definitely has helped me understand more of whats to come. Good luck to everyone who is waiting and to those that are already heading out Congrats and do your best

I asked this question when I first came to the forums and no one responded. I can tell you this much. Last week I received my call and I am starting at FLETC January 15th. When I was younger, I also had some legal issues of my own including a DWI. When I met my BI I told him EVERYTHING about my past. He was impressed at how honest I was and even flat out told me that he probably wouldn't have found out some of that information. I think that as long as you don't have a felony or a drug/violent offense ridden past and you can prove that you have changed, you stand a good chance of getting in. Good luck to you with your process.

Sorry I got my dates mixed up. I go to Fletc January 14th. So it isn't too long but seems to be a week longer than everyone else in 923. It is probably from the holidays and also because the classes were filled already for that start date.

There are about 6 of us in 923 over the last few pages if you scan the thread. I'll see you there. Good luck.

[barnaj]

Hey all, if anyone has been to FLETC recently, i was just wondering if the CBPO classroom training is still done behind the chow hall? I remember while i was there they were talking about renovating that building (cant remember the number) and gonna do the classroom training in some kind of trailers. Any truth to that?

[triplejump]

Does anyone know what the work hours are for Blaine, WA? EOD is jan. 12.
4X10hr shifts, 5X8hr shifts, 3X16hr shifts?

[s0lid snake]

Hey anyone recently or have EOD for SFO...can you please tell me how it is like there?

[kc12]

So how soon in the begining do you take the 1.5 mile run test? And if you fail it you could make it up in the end??

I think my class took it the first or second week in, although that changes from class to class. You will take the PEB two times while at FLETC. If you pass the first one you don't have to worry about the second one, it's for fun. If you fail the first one then you have to pass the second or you will be fired.

Merlin--The academy has changed a bit since you were there. While I was in CBP came down with a directive no pull ups (that can change though). I guess someone got hurt so they forbade them. They also limit the distance or time you can run in PT.

[barnaj]

I think my class took it the first or second week in, although that changes from class to class. You will take the PEB two times while at FLETC. If you pass the first one you don't have to worry about the second one, it's for fun. If you fail the first one then you have to pass the second or you will be fired.

Merlin--The academy has changed a bit since you were there. While I was in CBP came down with a directive no pull ups (that can change though). I guess someone got hurt so they forbade them. They also limit the distance or time you can run in PT.

I attended in the summer of '07 and we did pull ups as part of a running/bodyweight exercise circuit. I didnt mind because i could do 10+ then although now i could do without it since i cant hardly do them anymore! We never ran more than 2 maybe 3 miles, probably because it was 95 degrees out everyday.

[barnaj]

So If I can do the mile and a half in less than 15 minutes already, do like 25-35 push ups, like 7-10 pull ups, then am I pretty on schedule for the pt going into fletc?

You are well ahead of the average.

[NAL06]

How long does it take for CASS to update, considering I sent in the initial paperwork last week? It also says that a place has been chosen for my fitness test, will they likely wait until after the VBT to contact me on that?

[sap123]

How long does it take for CASS to update, considering I sent in the initial paperwork last week?

Sometimes a few days, sometimes a few weeks. It usually likes to update on Tuesdays and Thursdays I have found. Try the status line, it usually updates quicker.

612-467-7040 is the phone number.

Also did anyone else notice that the last 30 posts seemed to have disappeared from the thread? Kinda weird. I guess a server or software malfunction or something.

[Don951]

I just finished taking my cbpo exam today. The math portion was the most difficult for me. I also wish more time was provided for the logical reasoning section. Well, see in a few weeks if I passed....this exam was a lot more difficult than any police or sheriff exam I have taken thus far.

[merlin436]

So If I can do the mile and a half in less than 15 minutes already, do like 25-35 push ups, like 7-10 pull ups, then am I pretty on schedule for the pt going into fletc?


That's good, but I'd still work on bringing down your run time and raising the numbers of push ups. Add in sit ups too. To be really prepare...I'd say 50-60 push ups, 50-60 sit ups, and 10-12 pull ups and a 13.5 or less 1.5 mile puts you likely in a 'safe zone'.

As an applicant, there's little you can do to prepare yourself for the academics at the academy. There is a lot you can do to prepare yourself for the physical challenges though.

Ideally, you should hit the ground at FLETC fit enough to handle everything thrown at you. PT should be a welcome relief from the stresses of the classroom. If PT isn't a chore, but instead it's 2 hours of working out your frustrations in the mat room or the track, you've solved a great deal of your likely problems long before reaching FLETC.

[barnaj]

That's good, but I'd still work on bringing down your run time and raising the numbers of push ups. Add in sit ups too. To be really prepare...I'd say 50-60 push ups, 50-60 sit ups, and 10-12 pull ups and a 13.5 or less 1.5 mile puts you likely in a 'safe zone'.

As an applicant, there's little you can do to prepare yourself for the academics at the academy. There is a lot you can do to prepare yourself for the physical challenges though.

Ideally, you should hit the ground at FLETC fit enough to handle everything thrown at you. PT should be a welcome relief from the stresses of the classroom. If PT isn't a chore, but instead it's 2 hours of working out your frustrations in the mat room or the track, you've solved a great deal of your likely problems long before reaching FLETC.

Yeah i see what youre saying, better to be over prepared than under. But thats a little too high of a standard, as least as far as i saw in '07. I doubt things changed that much. Like if you came in at your PEB at 16:28 people still applauded and high fived you because youve made it to the next stage. Same as qualifying firearms at 240. Might as well be 300, because the whole goal is for everyone to make it graduation. Im not saying to settle for average, but first make the minimum, then worry about being super trainee.

[rbakous1]

Took a month for me.

Took about a month for me too.

[merlin436]

Yeah i see what youre saying, better to be over prepared than under. But thats a little too high of a standard, as least as far as i saw in '07. I doubt things changed that much. Like if you came in at your PEB at 16:28 people still applauded and high fived you because youve made it to the next stage. Same as qualifying firearms at 240. Might as well be 300, because the whole goal is for everyone to make it graduation. Im not saying to settle for average, but first make the minimum, then worry about being super trainee.


Average is average. Sure, one can get by with it, but they end up averaged with most everyone else. That works if one is happy with average.

Hit FLETC in the top 10-15% of the class and you pretty much hit the port in the top 10-15% as well. That likely means earlier moves into IFI, FI, CTRT, AT-CET and the other speciality teams, and earlier chances to promote, IMO.

[sap123]

Thanks for the info. Do you get training with rifle/carbine at fletc for cbpo positions? Are they still using the steyr aug, or is that just for srt?

What? They use a Steyr AUG? You have to be joking me.

[sap123]

I thought US customs uses the steyr aug, or they use to. Maybe it's just for special response teams. Anyways, is there any rifle/carbine training for cbpo at fletc?

MAYBE legacy customs guys did, but I honestly doubt it. I'll ask someone I know who's a port FI about it though.

Couldn't answer the question about rifle/shotgun training though. I know BPAs get the training, but I don't see why CPBOs would need it unless they were put on a certain detail.

[sap123]

I thought US customs uses the steyr aug, or they use to. Maybe it's just for special response teams. Anyways, is there any rifle/carbine training for cbpo at fletc?

Slap my ***** and call me Charlie, you were right. According to him, there are a handful of ports that still have them in lockers.

Also, no carbine/shotgun training for CBPOs.

[kc12]

At the academy all you get is what you need to be a basic officer. That means the only firearms training you'll receive is on the pistol.

[cby]

Hi, New here, glad to have found you guys!

I searched but was not able to find an answer....my Geo Pref is WA-all other locations. Hoping for Port Angeles or even Spokane. What are the odds of that vs. Seattle? Big cities are not really my thing!

Thanks!

Hey what are your stats?

[Barbrady]

I had to provide additional info for my medical. Does the medical review by the specialist take all of the 2-4 weeks they suggest? I am hoping some got it completed sooner.

[C45P312]

Man .... just got my NOR of 85. Thought I would be at least into the 90s. Nonetheless, this has me worrying. Hopefully the pool isn't big for Virginia.

[Drew23]

Score Reactivation

I took the CBPO exam in March 2008 and scored 98. I received a TO for Buffalo about a month later. I was scheduled for the VBT; however, I had to withdraw because I was out of state for training for my current position.

I reactivated my score in mid-November and was wondering if Buffalo generally hires a good amount of CBPO's and if I have a chance of getting another TO for Buffalo with that score.

Also, just wanted to say thanks to all for the great info on this thread.

[barnaj]

At the academy all you get is what you need to be a basic officer. That means the only firearms training you'll receive is on the pistol.

Extensive training on the H&K and a short couple hour familiarization with a revolver towards the end of training. Just to bascially learn how to make it safe in case you ever come across one. I heard talk of them adding shotgun training, but no clarification on that.

[jflores]

WHAT THE HECK.........The hotline has been cleared for a week for me but cass has not updated yet! The hotline states " you are currently in process for the position of CBPO" , so i don't think i'm even in TSU yet, but everything is cleared. it's just so frustrating i took the written back in FEB 07, and i'm still waiting, i dont understand why either never had any problems with my background never a felony or a misdemeanor and a good driving record, sorry just had to vent, any advice??

[barnaj]

WHAT THE HECK.........The hotline has been cleared for a week for me but cass has not updated yet! The hotline states " you are currently in process for the position of CBPO" , so i don't think i'm even in TSU yet, but everything is cleared. it's just so frustrating i took the written back in FEB 07, and i'm still waiting, i dont understand why either never had any problems with my background never a felony or a misdemeanor and a good driving record, sorry just had to vent, any advice??

well the phone line is just a voice network version of CASS, so dont worry about the online updates as they normally are behind the hotline. Hey take comfort in the fact that everything is complete (i think thats what you meant). Alot of people are in "pending" limbo. You'll have to do some research and see if NJ is well staffed or not.

[jwm0516]

I my Geo Pref is WA-all other locations. Hoping for Port Angeles or even Spokane. What are the odds of that vs. Seattle?



Seattle has it's own geopref so it isn't at all likely that you would go there unless you change. It seems that as of late most everyone with your geopref (myself included) has been offered the Northern Border ports of Blaine and Sumas. There may also be Oroville if that hasn't filled up. PM me if you have any further ?s

[bulldog777]

Quick question...
...When or if you get the call about an offer and you have a geo preference that has multiple duty locations within it. Is there any choice awarded to the applicant? Can you get on a waiting list for a specific POE? Or is it a "here is your offer and location" take it or leave it situation?

[wmcgalrd]

Quick question...
...When or if you get the call about an offer and you have a geo preference that has multiple duty locations within it. Is there any choice awarded to the applicant? Can you get on a waiting list for a specific POE? Or is it a "here is your offer and location" take it or leave it situation?

Good question, I was hoping for Bush Intercontinental.

[audi0xpl0de]

Quick question...
...When or if you get the call about an offer and you have a geo preference that has multiple duty locations within it. Is there any choice awarded to the applicant? Can you get on a waiting list for a specific POE? Or is it a "here is your offer and location" take it or leave it situation?

Usually you will get a couple of choices to choose from depending on your location. You basically have 24 hours to make a decision. There is no waiting list that I'm aware of, it's take it or leave it. There are plenty of people that they can go to the next guy on the list and he'll take the offer you rejected. They don't have the time or the resources to keep a waiting list.

[barnaj]

Quick question...
...When or if you get the call about an offer and you have a geo preference that has multiple duty locations within it. Is there any choice awarded to the applicant? Can you get on a waiting list for a specific POE? Or is it a "here is your offer and location" take it or leave it situation?

For example:
You chose Michigan for you geo location. You get called for a job offer on Monday. They may say you can choose between the Detroit land border or Detroit Metro airport. Even though you wanted a different port, those are your choices. And they give you the 24 hours to talk to your wife or whoever. If you cant or wont go to any of your choices, thats the end of the line and your tossed out of the pool of applicants.

[jflores]

well the phone line is just a voice network version of CASS, so dont worry about the online updates as they normally are behind the hotline. Hey take comfort in the fact that everything is complete (i think thats what you meant). Alot of people are in "pending" limbo. You'll have to do some research and see if NJ is well staffed or not.

Thanks Barnaj, just checked cass for the billionth time and it has been updated, everything is complete. Would it say on there that my file is in TSU? just curious because it doesn't. i'm just so happy to be one step closer and see a little more progress.

[sap123]

Thanks Barnaj, just checked cass for the billionth time and it has been updated, everything is complete. Would it say on there that my file is in TSU? just curious because it doesn't. i'm just so happy to be one step closer and see a little more progress.

This is what it looks like when CASS is showing that you're in TSU. (click for big)

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If CASS is showing that all steps are completed and have the check mark next to them, it will be a matter of days until you get referred to TSU. Don't forget that CASS, as usual, takes a bit to update, so you will be in TSU before CASS reflects it. Depending on your geo pref you might even get the call before it updates.

[merlin436]

What is more accurate, cass, or the hotline? The hotline says I have completed everything. Cass for background says completed, the hotline for security says cleared. You would think they would use the same words. Does this mean I have been cleared by the adjudicator?

CASS is well known for being unreliable. Many Officers have been weeks into the academy before CASS finally clears for them. The hotline is far more accurate...although it has its problems as well.
As far as your background goes I'm guessing that you've either received a full(cleared by the adjudicator) or interim(not clear...but looks good at the moment) clearance. Either way, expect a call soon.

[Barbrady]

Thanks for the info. Just wondering if anyone else has called the hotline and for security it said completed as opposed to cleared. I met with bi a little more than 2 weeks ago and can't really see how I would be fully cleared this soon.

Schweet. Mine updated too and my security says "completed" but when I request detailed info it says, "you have cleared the background......" I think "cleared" sounds better. Waiting on medical, I hope it does not take the full 2-4 weeks.

[barnaj]

Thanks Barnaj, just checked cass for the billionth time and it has been updated, everything is complete. Would it say on there that my file is in TSU? just curious because it doesn't. i'm just so happy to be one step closer and see a little more progress.

That entire checklist will disappear and it will just say that your file has been sent to TSU nad it'll have a date or timeframe or something.

[merlin436]

Thanks for the info. Just wondering if anyone else has called the hotline and for security it said completed as opposed to cleared. I met with bi a little more than 2 weeks ago and can't really see how I would be fully cleared this soon.


I'll take a stab and say if you're only looking at 2-3 weeks after meeting with your BI, you most likely have been granted an interim clearance.

[jflores]

My GEO pref is N.J. i hope i go to Newark but whats the difference between airport and seaport? I have seen in previous posts that there is in fact a difference but not many specifics.

[wmcgalrd]

I'll take a stab and say if you're only looking at 2-3 weeks after meeting with your BI, you most likely have been granted an interim clearance.

I agree, its been almost a month for me with no word.

[verbalkint4]

Anybody work as a cbpo at the Los angeles/Long Beach Sea port??? I really want to go to the sea port over the airport. I understand the airport will have much more ot, but the LA seaport is one of the biggest in the country, how is the ot there? I just feel that if I am at the sea port I will be doing more related work to what I want to do in the future.

I spent a few years there. There is still plenty of OT to be had there. It always seemed like it was there if you wanted it and there even if you didn't. Although, keep in mind, OT is never constant so you shouldn't ever count on it always being there.

[rbakous1]

Thanks for the info. Just wondering if anyone else has called the hotline and for security it said completed as opposed to cleared. I met with bi a little more than 2 weeks ago and can't really see how I would be fully cleared this soon.

I guess anything is possible when it comes to the BI. My BI has been in the security office for about 4 weeks now. Haven't met with my BI but credit was pulled 3 weeks ago. I've cleared everything else.

[grullj]

Does anyone know what the pros and cons between the Miami seaport and the Miami Airport are?

[bulldog777]

Thanks for the info. Just wondering if anyone else has called the hotline and for security it said completed as opposed to cleared. I met with bi a little more than 2 weeks ago and can't really see how I would be fully cleared this soon.

Mine cleared that quick as well, but now I am receiving calls from the same investigators that I originally met with in early NOV asking for more information and references even though everything is completed or cleared in CASS and the hotline.:confused:

[Rolygsx]

Anyone recieved a TO for PA yet? I tested back in early August this summer and i'm curious to see if anyone has heard anything..

[SevenSixTwo]

I'm wondering if there is anyone from the San Francisco, Bay Area that is waiting for that magic phone call?

[jman26]

Can anyone tell me if I will get to choose airport or seaport? I applied for LAX/Long Beach, so that is the airport and seaport. I really prefer the seaport. Will I have a choice or do they tell you where you go?

I got the call for long beach 3 weeks ago and they gave me long beach port but i asked them if LAX had a open spot and they switched me over...so aske them when you get the call...

[Bizzy930]

I'm wondering if there is anyone from the San Francisco, Bay Area that is waiting for that magic phone call?
I got the call this past Monday and acceptance papers Wednesday for San Francisco. From what I was told, I filled up the very last slot for SFO. :confused:

[girly]

I just wanted to let everyone know that my medical cleared now I am waiting for my backgound to clear met with my BI mm awhile ago but I am confident I wont have a problem there. Anyone know how michigan is looking for the magic phone calls

[cby]

Hey is there only 1 training facility?

[barnaj]

Hey is there only 1 training facility?

Well there are more than one, depending what agency you are going to training for. But for the purposes of entry level CBPO, you'll be going to FLETC in Glynco, GA.

[ifoCBP]

I got the call this past Monday and acceptance papers Wednesday for San Francisco. From what I was told, I filled up the very last slot for SFO. :confused:

You might be the last slot for your FLETC date. My buddy just got the call yesterday for San Francisco, EOD date Jan 5th, FLETC date, Jan 27th. According to another friend who already works at San Francisco, San Francisco hires 3-5 a week. It never stops. Out of that 3-5 one or two usually quit before they even get to FLETC because the realize the job is not as law enforcement as they thought, and another one will quit, fail, get injured or have family issues while in FLETC. If you graduate, the numbers don't get any better. A large percent of those who graduate FLETC and become CBPO's quit or move on to another agency. I believe he said around 80-100 officers quit a week across the nation. Crazy. Maybe that will change with the economy so bad. My friend also said most everyone for San Francisco goes to the airport. You spend 3-5 years rubber stamping there and if a slot opens up you can try to jump over to the port side. However, getting over to the port is tough.

[bulldog777]

You might be the last slot for your FLETC date. My buddy just got the call yesterday for San Francisco, EOD date Jan 5th, FLETC date, Jan 27th. According to another friend who already works at San Francisco, San Francisco hires 3-5 a week. It never stops. Out of that 3-5 one or two usually quit before they even get to FLETC because the realize the job is not as law enforcement as they thought, and another one will quit, fail, get injured or have family issues while in FLETC. If you graduate, the numbers don't get any better. A large percent of those who graduate FLETC and become CBPO's quit or move on to another agency. I believe he said around 80-100 officers quit a week across the nation. Crazy. Maybe that will change with the economy so bad. My friend also said most everyone for San Francisco goes to the airport. You spend 3-5 years rubber stamping there and if a slot opens up you can try to jump over to the port side. However, getting over to the port is tough.

Is that a general rule of thumb in most areas... That entry level CBPOs are sent to airports over ports?

[barnaj]

Is that a general rule of thumb in most areas... That entry level CBPOs are sent to airports over ports?

No, i dont think that is the case. Its all based on staffing needs.

[ifoCBP]

Is that a general rule of thumb in most areas... That entry level CBPOs are sent to airports over ports?

I don't know. My friend works at San Francisco and that's how they do it. I had my VBT at San Francisco port office and no one was under 40 years old. I didn't get to see the airport, but I have been told that's where most people get sent to.

[FreeAgent]

I'm wondering if there is anyone from the San Francisco, Bay Area that is waiting for that magic phone call?
Right Here! I'm just going about my daily buisness and hopeing to get that call myself. I'm hopeing to get Oakland over San Fran. My BI sent my paperwork the day before Thanksgiving.

[Bizzy930]

You might be the last slot for your FLETC date. My buddy just got the call yesterday for San Francisco, EOD date Jan 5th, FLETC date, Jan 27th. According to another friend who already works at San Francisco, San Francisco hires 3-5 a week. It never stops. Out of that 3-5 one or two usually quit before they even get to FLETC because the realize the job is not as law enforcement as they thought, and another one will quit, fail, get injured or have family issues while in FLETC. If you graduate, the numbers don't get any better. A large percent of those who graduate FLETC and become CBPO's quit or move on to another agency. I believe he said around 80-100 officers quit a week across the nation. Crazy. Maybe that will change with the economy so bad. My friend also said most everyone for San Francisco goes to the airport. You spend 3-5 years rubber stamping there and if a slot opens up you can try to jump over to the port side. However, getting over to the port is tough.
Ah, I see. When TSU called me, they were going to place me in Los Angeles. That was until I asked them to double check any vacancy in the Bay Area. I don't feel so lucky anymore now that you told me this, haha.

[SevenSixTwo]

I got the call this past Monday and acceptance papers Wednesday for San Francisco. From what I was told, I filled up the very last slot for SFO. :confused:

WOW!!! Grats!!!

Hmmm...I'm hoping I still get a slot. I applied for this slot almost a year ago. It's also been almost 2 months since I've started BI.

[SD619]

Hey everyone, I just got the "call" today and was offered andrade, calexico.. I was hoping for something closer to san diego (san ysidro, otay mesa, tecate). the person at scheduling said he had nothing for san diego right now and that i could defer the offer.

my question is if i was to defer, what are the chances if any that they would call me back and offer me something closer to where i live. the trip to calexico would be 120 miles one way. would i be ruining my chances by defering?

thanks you guys and good luck to everyone.

[sap123]

Hey everyone, I just got the "call" today and was offered andrade, calexico.. I was hoping for something closer to san diego (san ysidro, otay mesa, tecate). the person at scheduling said he had nothing for san diego right now and that i could defer the offer.

my question is if i was to defer, what are the chances if any that they would call me back and offer me something closer to where i live. the trip to calexico would be 120 miles one way. would i be ruining my chances by defering?

thanks you guys and good luck to everyone.

Which vacancy did you test under?

The July/August one (not the newest one) should have split the geo preferences into two CA-SW border preferences. One is the Calexico/Andrade, the other was the typical Otay Mesa/San Ysidro/Tecate/Winterhaven preference. I chose the latter thinking I wanted to be closer to San Diego as well.

Also, what is your timeline? I went into TSU Nov. 21st. How long have you been there?

EDIT: Actually I re-checked that it said El Centro as part of my geo preference. El Centro is close to Calexico isn't it? That could explain things.

EDIT 2: Just checked your post history. The fact that you tested so long ago would explain my theory about when you tested; You chose a geo pref that lumped all of the SW border locations all together.

As far as deferring, I'm under the impression that once you decline the offer, you're out of the applicant pool and you're done. But if they're giving you an option to defer or wait, perhaps you should ask them about changing into the newer Geo pref that ONLY includes the ports near San Diego, and not Calexico (but does include ports like Winterhaven, which is just as far as Calexico). The problem with this is is that the newest announcement didn't have this listed; it just said 'SW border locations' and didn't split them up, so I dunno if they will let you do that. Either way, good luck.

[rbakous1]

Does anyone know if CBP offers student loan repayment for eligible federal student loans?

[merlin436]

Hey everyone, I just got the "call" today and was offered andrade, calexico.. I was hoping for something closer to san diego (san ysidro, otay mesa, tecate). the person at scheduling said he had nothing for san diego right now and that i could defer the offer.

my question is if i was to defer, what are the chances if any that they would call me back and offer me something closer to where i live. the trip to calexico would be 120 miles one way. would i be ruining my chances by defering?

thanks you guys and good luck to everyone.


Well...

First let me say I'd be very wary of taking serious career advice from anyone posting on this board, that includes me.

Here goes though...

If you take the job in Calexico you'll likely lock yourself into Calexico for the next 2-4 years...maybe longer. Can you live with that?

SYS and OTM are huge ports which are likely always understaffed. It's not a question of if a training slot opens up for them but when. Most likely we're talking of days and weeks rather than months, too.

Do you have a decent job now where you have no need of making a hasty decision?
Are you far enough under the age of 37 that you can wait the 2-6-12 months to get pulled for a new offer?

Me? I'd likely defer. You're looking to get into one of two major ports that bleed officers nearly every day. Chances are almost certain that training slots will open for one or both of them soon.

[NAL06]

Got back from the VBT today..definitely an interesting experience...I think all went well...hopefully...The lady who moderated, said that CBP hopes to have all those currently processing done within the next month or so, as the end of the year is when all those eligible for retirement will do so..I understand it is a different time with the economy the way it is, but the fact that I've already done the VBT and have already been scheduled for the med/fitness within just the last week, makes me optimistic