CBP officer

[DaBonk112]

I called the hotline and it states that my VBT has been scheduled. I haven't received anything in the mail as of yet. Any of you new applicants received word?

[audi0xpl0de]

I called the hotline and it states that my VBT has been scheduled. I haven't received anything in the mail as of yet. Any of you new applicants received word?

Our timelines are pretty similar. I haven't heard anything yet for the VBT or background. Completed medical and fit test Wednesday.

[cross.sandiego]

Still, I remain highly cynical that this will be an option for the average line officer in the majority of ports, but we shall see.



Tasers? I'd be happy to get my PRD and a radio. Most officers at my port are walking around without either. Actually, I just got an email yesterday to pick up a PRD and rumor has it the port is getting 40 hand-me-down radios from BP, so there is hope.

The tasers will probably be issued to AT-CET (they get to play with all the fun toys) and possibly 12's and 13's. Just like the recently anounced vehicle pursuit training - only available to CET, SRT, Supes and Chiefs.

[MilwaukeeBucks]

Our timelines are pretty similar. I haven't heard anything yet for the VBT or background. Completed medical and fit test Wednesday.

Same timeline as me, too. When you called the hotline did they say you were medically cleared and everything? I've completed mine but CASS doesn't say I've cleared it.

What's the # to the hotline? Do you actually talk to a human, or is it all electronically done?

Thanks

[LAboundCBPO]

Is it possible to get an appointment letter for VBT before doing the fitness test? I have a feeling my co-worker's yanking my chain. He said he got his appointment letter today.

[shawal16]

Is it possible to get an appointment letter for VBT before doing the fitness test? I have a feeling my co-worker's yanking my chain. He said he got his appointment letter today.

Yes you can.

[sap123]

Is it possible to get an appointment letter for VBT before doing the fitness test? I have a feeling my co-worker's yanking my chain. He said he got his appointment letter today.

What's his timeline?

If it sounds like I'm getting desperate to take the VBT...well I am.

EDIT: In all seriousness, at least it sounds like people who are the mid-year/fall testers are getting their VBTs scheduled, so things look like they are moving along. Hopefully next week brings good news to everyone.

[barnaj]

Tasers? I'd be happy to get my PRD and a radio. Most officers at my port are walking around without either. Actually, I just got an email yesterday to pick up a PRD and rumor has it the port is getting 40 hand-me-down radios from BP, so there is hope.

The tasers will probably be issued to AT-CET (they get to play with all the fun toys) and possibly 12's and 13's. Just like the recently anounced vehicle pursuit training - only available to CET, SRT, Supes and Chiefs.

well thats about par for the course, everyone sitting around in the office will have them and the guys on the line wont.

[s0lid snake]

Guys, I had the worst medical/fitness experience ever. So I showed up at this clinic, it was like a 3rd world clinic. The nurse used a traditional instrument of reading blood pressures because there was no monitor or computer to accurately read my blood pressure, at first she said it was way off the chart so I was like how could that be, I am only 22 and I just had my physical last week and the doctor said I am in perfect health for law enforcement. Anyways, it took them 5 tries to finally got my blood pressure but she still wrote it down as a little bit high.

Next, was the audio test, when I was in the room they were fixing something outside and I could hear the drilling and the nurse laughing with her co-workers.

Then, the vision test, I just had PRK down 6 days ago so my vision was still not at its best but during my post-op exam with a real optometrist said my vision is at 20/30 and 20/40, this nurse using this weird machine that doesn't even have any letters or numbers, instead has circles and you have to find the real full circle, said I have 20/50 far and 20/70 near. I was like how could that be, I asked for a re-test and she refused. Now, during the test she was very absent minded, because she was talking to her co-worker who was standing outside the door, the lights were never turned off, and she kept asking me what question answer I was giving her. I really felt that she messed up on my test.

After all that, I had to wait an additional 2 hours until she administered my fitness test.

I wrote an email to MHC Medical Review saying how I believe because of the low medical practice and the way the nurse conducted my medical exam, I believe my results are not accurate.

This was so horrible, what else can I do?

[s0lid snake]

I am also thinking about suing this clinic or reporting them (where can I report them?) because this whole 4 hour exam (!) I only saw a real doctor for like 10 minutes, she came in asked me some questions then signed some papers and left. I was like what the hell is going on, I thought it has to be a real doctor that administers my medical and fitness exam!

[USMC3537]

I called the hotline and it states that my VBT has been scheduled. I haven't received anything in the mail as of yet. Any of you new applicants received word?

The hotline I call says their are only 3 possible options: Pending, Completed, or Not Applicable.
What number are you calling that it says scheduled?

[psychoticnemo]

Got another letter today stating that I am in class 914 MIA anyone else here on the same boat?...

[sap123]

The hotline I call says their are only 3 possible options: Pending, Completed, or Not Applicable.
What number are you calling that it says scheduled?

If you opt for the more detailed response, it might tell someone that they have been scheduled. Most of us as of now are at the "One is required but you are not scheduled at this time etc etc" jargon. If it's anything like the fit test/med, CASS/hotline usually says you're scheduled for one, even though it will still read as 'pending' in the system.

EDIT: To the guys with the long waits at the lest than great clinics: I had a similar experience, but I'm not sure what else can be done. I'd look for the number of the medical review unit and talk to a staffer with them and explain the situation. They might let you re-test, and they might not (I would think they would have to shell out the money again to get re-tested, which I'm sure to them is a pain to do).

[nordy racer]

The hotline I call says their are only 3 possible options: Pending, Completed, or Not Applicable.
What number are you calling that it says scheduled?

i was thinking the same thing.. never heard that line before when i called..

[bronze01]

I am also thinking about suing this clinic or reporting them (where can I report them?) because this whole 4 hour exam (!) I only saw a real doctor for like 10 minutes, she came in asked me some questions then signed some papers and left. I was like what the hell is going on, I thought it has to be a real doctor that administers my medical and fitness exam!


Was a funny read Snake, but, I feel your pain. MHC may send you a letter of unsuitability. You will need to prepare a letter of appeal explaining your situation.

The thing that sucks is that they will tell you that you have to pay for the next physical portions that you failed at a doctor or your choice and your expense.

I'm sure you can submit your actual physicians findings to them along with the your letter, then, you may not have to spend another dime.

That's what happened to me anyways. They responded recinding my unsuitability in a couple weeks. Good luck to you and sorry you had to experience that.

Welcome to the world of Government Low Bids. Don't bother trying for reprimand, it won't work.

[LAboundCBPO]

What's his timeline?

If it sounds like I'm getting desperate to take the VBT...well I am.

EDIT: In all seriousness, at least it sounds like people who are the mid-year/fall testers are getting their VBTs scheduled, so things look like they are moving along. Hopefully next week brings good news to everyone.

I just checked my mail and am happy to report that I also received the VBT app. letter. My co-worker and I took the written test in mid-August for LAX/LB.

[nordy racer]

10/29 at long beach office for the VBT??

[qixfeet]

Tasers? I'd be happy to get my PRD and a radio. Most officers at my port are walking around without either. Actually, I just got an email yesterday to pick up a PRD and rumor has it the port is getting 40 hand-me-down radios from BP, so there is hope.

The tasers will probably be issued to AT-CET (they get to play with all the fun toys) and possibly 12's and 13's. Just like the recently anounced vehicle pursuit training - only available to CET, SRT, Supes and Chiefs.

Why would they give that training to supes and chiefs and not line officers that would actually use those skills? You gotta love CBP's thinking. I am with you on the taser thing. I'll count those chickens when they hatch. Until then I'll consider it a rumor.

[DaBonk112]

Call the hotline at 6124677040. After they state your progress for each category, the automated operator will ask if you want detailed information on any of the categories. Just say "Oral Board" and it will give you a more detailed status check. My status was "Your Oral Board has been scheduled." Thus, I'm assuming that I will be getting a letter soon. LABound seems to be on the same timeline as I so hopefully the rest of us newbies will get a letter soon. I'm all the way out in Hawaii so it may take a few extra days.

[s0lid snake]

Was a funny read Snake, but, I feel your pain. MHC may send you a letter of unsuitability. You will need to prepare a letter of appeal explaining your situation.

The thing that sucks is that they will tell you that you have to pay for the next physical portions that you failed at a doctor or your choice and your expense.

I'm sure you can submit your actual physicians findings to them along with the your letter, then, you may not have to spend another dime.

That's what happened to me anyways. They responded recinding my unsuitability in a couple weeks. Good luck to you and sorry you had to experience that.

Welcome to the world of Government Low Bids. Don't bother trying for reprimand, it won't work.





Yeah, during the fitness test, the nurse didn't even look at me until the step test. I guess this is what happens when the government needs to save money and picks the cheapest medical place.

[s0lid snake]

You guys think I could retake the vision test? I just had PRK surgery like 6 days before the medical test so my eyes were still healing and not at its best yet.

[USMC3537]

Call the hotline at 6124677040. After they state your progress for each category, the automated operator will ask if you want detailed information on any of the categories. Just say "Oral Board" and it will give you a more detailed status check. My status was "Your Oral Board has been scheduled." Thus, I'm assuming that I will be getting a letter soon. LABound seems to be on the same timeline as I so hopefully the rest of us newbies will get a letter soon. I'm all the way out in Hawaii so it may take a few extra days.

Got it, Thanks. Still not scheduled...

[DaBonk112]

You guys think I could retake the vision test? I just had PRK surgery like 6 days before the medical test so my eyes were still healing and not at its best yet.

Either way, I believe you have to take another vision test after your one year waiting period is up. For PRK, if I'm not mistaken, there is a one year mandatory waiting period to see if your eyes have healed correctly. I had LASIK done about 3 months ago so my exam was completed two weeks before my 3 month waiting period was up. The CHS informed me that after I hit the three month period (which is in one week) I would have to get reexamined and my optometrist would have to write a letter specifying the conditions of my eyes. Double-check with medical to see how long you have to wait for the PRK.

[merlin436]

Tasers? I'd be happy to get my PRD and a radio. Most officers at my port are walking around without either. Actually, I just got an email yesterday to pick up a PRD and rumor has it the port is getting 40 hand-me-down radios from BP, so there is hope.

The tasers will probably be issued to AT-CET (they get to play with all the fun toys) and possibly 12's and 13's. Just like the recently anounced vehicle pursuit training - only available to CET, SRT, Supes and Chiefs.

I feel for you, bro.

It took me 3+ years to get issued a baton and 4+ years to get a PRD. I won't see a radio(and really don't need one), but I'm still waiting for Uncle Sugar to come through with a flashlight and leatherman.

As far as the tasers go, MY IFI today swore every officer would have the option to carry one or not. I'm not holding my breath though. Like you I think they'll end up on the belts of the show ponies and the race horses at the largest tracks. Tasers that make their way to the common work horses and those working smaller events...I'll believe it when I see it.

[jonesrp]

Hey,
Just wanted to let everyone know they are sending out TO's. I got a huge packet in the mail with dvd, test manual, and TO letter for Michigan today! The letter also says it should only take 3-6 months for processing for the Michigan position. I tested a few months ago (In May I think) and got the TO today!

Hello DDixon, how far along are you in the process. I just took my medical exam and fitness on Oct 14th. I also received my TO on 9/27 for MICHIGAN

[kc12]

Why would they give that training to supes and chiefs and not line officers that would actually use those skills? You gotta love CBP's thinking. I am with you on the taser thing. I'll count those chickens when they hatch. Until then I'll consider it a rumor.

Chiefs-would get them because Tasers are cool. It makes sense to have the supes have them, because they can more easily break away from one incident and go to another. Ideally everyone would get them, but if that is not an option for whatever reason supes only is a good alternative.

[Dfly123]

Got another letter today stating that I am in class 914 MIA anyone else here on the same boat?...



Congrats again man... I told you it wouldnt take long.

As for me... I am exactly at my half way point through FLETC, and personally... I actually still consider it to be fun and exciting. It is all what you make it people. Ive talked to a few people from a couple different new classes, some say they hate the fact they have roomies, some are really enjoying themselves.

But they are starting to have FLETC be somewhat military based, meaning; shine your shoes, press your uniform, stand at attention, etc etc.

You will have roomates if you are in the Taj.... there are about 77-80 classes starting this year alone... they dont have the room to give you your own quarters (I got lucky... one of the last classes to have private rooms)

The run time has been brought down to 15 mins... and just as a side note with PT... start doing pushups now.

[cargo82]

From what I heard through the grapevine is that they opened a new wing at the airport or something of that nature. Just what I heard though, don't know if it's true.
yea there is a brand new concourse with like 40 gates that opened not too long ago and they are remodeling 3 old concourses to accommodate that new double Decker Boeing that is suppose to be flying in sometime next year. Its suppose to hold like 600- 700 passengers or something like that. Anyway they are gonna convert the 3 old concourses to one big one with like 65 new international gates so just that is gonna need a couple hundred extra cbpo's to run. As for the tasers, we were told that supervisors on the floor will get them before anyone. That"s because we are not allowed to use the OC spray inside the airport due to the ventilation systems. I donno if that is that rule at every airport but it is in Miami.

[psychoticnemo]

Thanks a lot Dfly you were the biggest help man. I'll see you up there in Dec.
That is some good news from you Cargo, sounds like we will have plenty of work.

[JRizEJ6]

WAHOOO! i got my pre-employment forms today! im so happy :D got a question though. they only gave me until the 30th to turn everything in which is about two weeks from today. is it normally that short? i was thinking maybe a month or so but less than two weeks?

[audi0xpl0de]

WAHOOO! i got my pre-employment forms today! im so happy :D got a question though. they only gave me until the 30th to turn everything in which is about two weeks from today. is it normally that short? i was thinking maybe a month or so but less than two weeks?

Yep, usually two weeks so if you don't return them they can move on. Really shouldn't take you that long. Just take a day and work on them.

[s0lid snake]

Is the wait time for PRK eye surgery a year or 3 months? I heard people said 3 months and others said 1 year...I hope its 3 months because PRK is safer than Lasik.

[s0lid snake]

Is the wait time for PRK eye surgery a year or 3 months? I heard people said 3 months and others said 1 year...I hope its 3 months because PRK is safer than Lasik.

[DaBonk112]

Got my VBT on Nov. 5th. I realize that it's definitely a different format than a traditional interview. Stressful or no?

[s0lid snake]

Got my VBT on Nov. 5th. I realize that it's definitely a different format than a traditional interview. Stressful or no?

I hope not. From what I have read on this message board, all you need is common sense. I also hope I am getting one soon, I took my test on Aug 21 and got my TO on Sept. 23 and just finished my medical and fitness last week. Anyone with a similar time line got their VBT yet?

[audi0xpl0de]

I hope not. From what I have read on this message board, all you need is common sense. I also hope I am getting one soon, I took my test on Aug 21 and got my TO on Sept. 23 and just finished my medical and fitness last week. Anyone with a similar time line got their VBT yet?

I have same timeline except I tested in July. Expecting sometime soon to be scheduled.

[DACP_BU]

Hey guys, this question has probably been answered already but I could not find the answer on the previous threads. Which pay table does CBPO falls on General or Law enforcement ?

[jwm0516]

Hey guys, this question has probably been answered already but I could not find the answer on the previous threads. Which pay table does CBPO falls on General or Law enforcement ?

We are GS, not GL.

[sap123]

I have same timeline except I tested in July. Expecting sometime soon to be scheduled.

Most of the August testers are basically at this point. I just know of the few posters here (seem to be the guy out of Hawaii and some LA/LB applicants) have gotten their VBT scheduled. I'm scared that I will be the last to be scheduled since I'm somewhat far away from any PoE. The lady at the staffing unit told me no big deal though, I mean that is the advantage with a Video test. You can do it anywhere you can stick a camera on a tripod basically.

[DACP_BU]

Thanks jwm0516!!!

[Barbrady]

What is the policy on facial hair? Only reason I ask I saw a video with a CBPO with a beard. I don't mind it....

[Pawn922]

Is the wait time for PRK eye surgery a year or 3 months? I heard people said 3 months and others said 1 year...I hope its 3 months because PRK is safer than Lasik.

Solid,

I went through that. I took my eye exam with that machine with the circles 10 days after Lasek. I couldn't see very well yet either. I swore that I could see the breaks in the little circles but I was consistantly wrong. Anyway....They were nice enough to let me take a regular exam with a regular chart a few days later after I stressed to them how important this was to my potential employment.

I still have my forms from the Medical Unit so I looked it up for you. You will only have to wait the 3 month period for PRK. RK is the only surgery that has to wait a year.

No stress. If you are like me....you were freaking out just like I did when I thought that I might have to wait another whole year.

[tigersin2009]

I sent my forms in a couple weeks ago and have since passed the fitness test. while cleaning up, i realized i only sent in the gs7 qualification and not the gs5 qualification. should i overnight this? should i call? or am i flat out screwed if the dont give me gs7? thanks a lot in advance.

[s0lid snake]

Solid,

I went through that. I took my eye exam with that machine with the circles 10 days after Lasek. I couldn't see very well yet either. I swore that I could see the breaks in the little circles but I was consistantly wrong. Anyway....They were nice enough to let me take a regular exam with a regular chart a few days later after I stressed to them how important this was to my potential employment.

I still have my forms from the Medical Unit so I looked it up for you. You will only have to wait the 3 month period for PRK. RK is the only surgery that has to wait a year.

No stress. If you are like me....you were freaking out just like I did when I thought that I might have to wait another whole year.



Thank you so much! I feel so much better now. I wish the medical place i went to was that nice. The nurse there refuses to let me retake the vision test and I don't know why. I hope the medical unit understands and let me retake my vision test after my eyes are fully healed. Thanks again!

[s0lid snake]

I sent my forms in a couple weeks ago and have since passed the fitness test. while cleaning up, i realized i only sent in the gs7 qualification and not the gs5 qualification. should i overnight this? should i call? or am i flat out screwed if the dont give me gs7? thanks a lot in advance.


You should definitely call them about it. I am not sure, but I think they don't check qualifications until near the end? My qualifications are still pending but my forms are cleared.

[s0lid snake]

Solid,

I went through that. I took my eye exam with that machine with the circles 10 days after Lasek. I couldn't see very well yet either. I swore that I could see the breaks in the little circles but I was consistantly wrong. Anyway....They were nice enough to let me take a regular exam with a regular chart a few days later after I stressed to them how important this was to my potential employment.

I still have my forms from the Medical Unit so I looked it up for you. You will only have to wait the 3 month period for PRK. RK is the only surgery that has to wait a year.

No stress. If you are like me....you were freaking out just like I did when I thought that I might have to wait another whole year.





Hey, sorry I have another question. While you were waiting for your 3 month for lasik to clear, will they still go on with the VBT and background investigation or is your whole hiring process on hold until your medical is cleared? Thanks!

[sap123]

I sent my forms in a couple weeks ago and have since passed the fitness test. while cleaning up, i realized i only sent in the gs7 qualification and not the gs5 qualification. should i overnight this? should i call? or am i flat out screwed if the dont give me gs7? thanks a lot in advance.

Meh. I didn't send in the GS5 qual sheet because I knew I was qualified for GS-7 under the SAA clause. I wasn't trying to act like it was "all or nothing" for the higher pay grade, I was just under the assumption that if you qualify, you qualify, no if ands or buts. I guess it works differently if you're trying to grab the GS-7 based on experience. Call the hiring unit and let them know what's up.

[Mustang342]

Chiefs-would get them because Tasers are cool. It makes sense to have the supes have them, because they can more easily break away from one incident and go to another. Ideally everyone would get them, but if that is not an option for whatever reason supes only is a good alternative.

So let me get this straight. They'll trust us with a gun but not tasers...go figure!

[tigersin2009]

i appreciate the quick response. whats the number to the hiring unit?

[sap123]

i appreciate the quick response. whats the number to the hiring unit?

check your PMs

[DaBonk112]

So from what I'm gathering from previous posts about the VBT is to use "common sense" which in the area of this kind of interview is to have a "customer service" attitude. I appreciate the advice considering applicants are not allowed to disclose too much information about the VBT. Thanks.

[southwest]

Hi finally i get to post i been trying to get approved forever.
Either way i took my my test on August 20 and received my test results on a week later passed whew. and 2 week later my T.O. package returned it before the oct 8 deadline. I took my physical a week ago and passed it. Just waiting for the vbt hope it wont be to long for the call. I applied for the southwest region of el centro/ yuma.

Does anybody know if you can have your contact number preference changed? i got the physical call on my home number; i wasn't there good thing i have an answering machine, but people i live with sometime pick up and don't pass on the info:eek: I'm just kind of worried this will happen, I gave them my cell phone number when i applied. hope they will call it is case.

One more question at this stage in the application, and if i pass the VBT, my chances of getting pick are good right? I have a completely clean background. But i don't have that many references for Background investigation that I have know for seven year requirement is this that bad? I mean most friends have moved away lost contact stuff like that. I did list my friend that works for the Border patrol hope that help me out.Thanks for the help everybody.

[sap123]

Hi finally i get to post i been trying to get approved forever.
Either way i took my my test on August 20 and received my test results on a week later passed whew. and 2 week later my T.O. package returned it before the oct 8 deadline. I took my physical a week ago and passed it. Just waiting for the vbt hope it wont be to long for the call. I applied for the southwest region of el centro/ yuma.

Does anybody know if you can have your contact number preference changed? i got the physical call on my home number; i wasn't there good thing i have an answering machine, but people i live with sometime pick up and don't pass on the info:eek: I'm just kind of worried this will happen, I gave them my cell phone number when i applied. hope they will call it is case.

One more question at this stage in the application, and if i pass the VBT, my chances of getting pick are good right? I have a completely clean background. But i don't have that many references for Background investigation that I have know for seven year requirement is this that bad? I mean most friends have moved away lost contact stuff like that. I did list my friend that works for the Border patrol hope that help me out.Thanks for the help everybody.

I would just email them about the geo pref thing. It should be noted that I believe if you change your geo pref after receiving a TO, you need to be sent a new TO (someone can correct me on this). The email address is in your TO packet.

Be patient with getting in touch with these people. They deal with hundreds of applicants and their pertinent information on a weekly basis. Emailing them will usually net you a response within the week. Calling is hit or miss on getting a live body.

List as much as you can for your background. A lot of applicants have friends and references sprawled out; it's par for the course really.

[kc12]

What is the policy on facial hair? Only reason I ask I saw a video with a CBPO with a beard. I don't mind it....

No beards and mustaches must be groomed within standards (think military). I heard the union was fighting to allow us to wear facial hair, but I haven't heard anything lately.

[kc12]

So let me get this straight. They'll trust us with a gun but not tasers...go figure!

From what I've seen with this agency, trust isn't the issue. The supplier might not be able to supply enough at one time, or there could be money issues with the agency, or, my favorite, parts could be held up in customs. There are many reasons why the agency wouldn't be able to buy as many Tazers as required with their first order. Just be patient this is government work and not many people are in a big rush.

[merlin436]

So let me get this straight. They'll trust us with a gun but not tasers...go figure!

Well...I don't know if 'trust' is the right word...

You have to understand that there are 327 different ports across the US and in many if not most of them there is little to no practical need to arm officers with tasers.

[Hound77]

You guys think I could retake the vision test? I just had PRK surgery like 6 days before the medical test so my eyes were still healing and not at its best yet.

The damn depth perception machine (thats what the thing with the circles tests) just didn't work on my eyes. I have no idea why that is, but I have a REALLY hard time seeing magic eye type paintings too so that might have something to do with it. Anyways, they sent me a medical letter and I had to get retested. I was sweating bullets, and really confused since I was a pretty good outfielder back in the day and you'd figure that takes depth perception. Anyways I go see this eye doctor, he takes me in, has me look at a card and read things off it. I did fine, my depth perception isn't perfect but it was well within the normal range.

The whole thing took 20 minutes (and $120 with my crappy insurance), he signed off on the form, I sent it back in and a few weeks later they approved me. I think as long as you get a doctor to sign off they'll overrule the findings of most of the clinic tests.

[Hound77]

Meh. I didn't send in the GS5 qual sheet because I knew I was qualified for GS-7 under the SAA clause. I wasn't trying to act like it was "all or nothing" for the higher pay grade, I was just under the assumption that if you qualify, you qualify, no if ands or buts. I guess it works differently if you're trying to grab the GS-7 based on experience. Call the hiring unit and let them know what's up.

Knowing the Feds I was pretty sure that if you said you'd take GS-5 they'd never give you GS-7 no matter what your quals are. I don't have any proof of that but I wasn't taking any chances. I went GS-7 and was approved.

[Pawn922]

Thank you so much! I feel so much better now. I wish the medical place i went to was that nice. The nurse there refuses to let me retake the vision test and I don't know why. I hope the medical unit understands and let me retake my vision test after my eyes are fully healed. Thanks again!

I am not the Medical Unit so I can't say for sure, but when they sent me my forms indicating that I needed to visit my surgeon again 3 months after my Lasek, I needed an extension. I called the MU. They were really understanding and easy to talk to.

According to my original eye exam, I was not able to pass 20/20 uncorrected. So, I bought some cheap drug store glasses and passed with corrected vision. After healing for 3 months and visiting my surgeon, I am now 20/20 uncorrected. I sent in all of my forms and have been medically cleared. There seems to be enough of us getting Lasek, Lasik, PRK etc, for this job, that it is somewhat common place and the MU understands the complications. Hence, the 3 month waiting period.

Did you pass everything else medically?

[Pawn922]

Hey, sorry I have another question. While you were waiting for your 3 month for lasik to clear, will they still go on with the VBT and background investigation or is your whole hiring process on hold until your medical is cleared? Thanks!

I asked the MU that same question. According to the FAQs your background investigation doesn't start until you are medically cleared. The MU told me that my background investigation had already been started and about a week later my credit was pulled. However, I did not meet with my BI until almost 2 months later, so it may have been delayed. My VBT was scheduled normally, and I completed that before being medically cleared too.

Don't feel sorry for asking questions. That's what the forum is for. We've all had the same questions at one point or another.

[Pawn922]

No beards and mustaches must be groomed within standards (think military). I heard the union was fighting to allow us to wear facial hair, but I haven't heard anything lately.

There goes my handlebar mustache;)

[Pawn922]

Knowing the Feds I was pretty sure that if you said you'd take GS-5 they'd never give you GS-7 no matter what your quals are. I don't have any proof of that but I wasn't taking any chances. I went GS-7 and was approved.

I sent in the stuff for the GS-5 because I was unsure of my qualifications. I'm not currently in law enforcement and only have a bachelor’s degree. That sounded like text book GS-5 to me.....But, I have worked as a professional for over 14 years so, in my mind, I'd like to think that my life experience is worth more than that of a 21 year old (no offence if your 21). Of course I was approved for GS-5, but if there was a chance that a determination could have been made to get GS-7, I'd really prefer that. Has anyone been given GS-7 with similar qualifications? And if so, can you request a reconsideration?

[Borderpatrol007]

I have been with border patrol for about 6 months and I dont like where im stationed at , Laredo Texas. I have been thinking of switching to a cbp officer so i can try to go back to the rio grande valley in south texas but i really dont know the process to go into customs can some one please help me with this and how does the duty location work will i be able to get something in south texas there are plenty of ports of entries there. Does anyone know a recruiter for south texas. Please help me out guys and let me know what i should do to get into customs. my email is johnnyr2000@yahoo.com if you prefer to email me i would really appreciate the help. thanks alot

[merlin436]

I have been with border patrol for about 6 months and I dont like where im stationed at , Laredo Texas. I have been thinking of switching to a cbp officer so i can try to go back to the rio grande valley in south texas but i really dont know the process to go into customs can some one please help me with this and how does the duty location work will i be able to get something in south texas there are plenty of ports of entries there. Does anyone know a recruiter for south texas. Please help me out guys and let me know what i should do to get into customs. my email is johnnyr2000@yahoo.com if you prefer to email me i would really appreciate the help. thanks alot

BP,
First, you'll have to wait for the next anouncement and test like anyone else. Supposedly there's a new limited announcement coming out in early Nov., I have no idea where or if any Texas locations are on it.

[Borderpatrol007]

okay cool when do the anouncements usually come out and how can i check what duty locations will be on them. Is there a good chance i could get something down south were i wanna be at?

[audi0xpl0de]

okay cool when do the anouncements usually come out and how can i check what duty locations will be on them. Is there a good chance i could get something down south were i wanna be at?

If it's a limited announcement then they will have a list of potential locations you could apply for on the announcement. As he stated there is a rumor that an announcement will open next month. No one can tell you an exact date.

[Borderpatrol007]

does the job announcement come out on usa jobs.com along with the list of locations? And if the location i want is there i take the test and pass and go through the hiring process and then i can get that spot??

[merlin436]

okay cool when do the anouncements usually come out and how can i check what duty locations will be on them. Is there a good chance i could get something down south were i wanna be at?

Check out USAJOBS.gov. Run a search for series 1895. When the new annoucement opens it'll be there, along with duty locations.

As far as you getting to where you want in Texas, unknown. Generally speaking though, limited announcements usually include many if not most of the SB locations, plus the hard to fill NB ones such as Montana, Alaska, Maine, etc.

[Borderpatrol007]

so how many people do they usually take to each duty station? Is there any way i could find a cbp officer recruieter to talk to ? So when in the hiring process do you get to pick your duty station or do you have one assigned to you? thanks for your help

[merlin436]

does the job announcement come out on usa jobs.com along with the list of locations? And if the location i want is there i take the test and pass and go through the hiring process and then i can get that spot??

Yes...if you test high enough on the test and make it through the process, you'll get offered a job. Much like the BP, OFO doesn't test for specific ports, but for all the ports within a specific area. You could get offered a job at the Larado PoE, depending on how the announcement was worded in regards to locations.

[merlin436]

so how many people do they usually take to each duty station? Is there any way i could find a cbp officer recruieter to talk to ? So when in the hiring process do you get to pick your duty station or do you have one assigned to you? thanks for your help


It's a port, not a station. They take as many officers to each port as they take. It all depends. Generally, applicants are offered a port(or 2 or 3) from the geographical preference area they've chosen.

As far as a CBPO recruiter goes...I have no idea of one in Texas. Your best bet is to stop in at one of the larger ports and ask about it there.

[Borderpatrol007]

okay sounds like a process very similar to bp. I just really wanna get any port in the rio grande valley and get out of laredo. So all i gotta do is get a good score on the test and complete the hiring process then i get offered a port. Hows the pay compared to bp and is the job fun or is it boring. thanks

[imlikeaninja]

Just got another NOR via e-mail. I tested in july and got my original NOR in August. Anyone know why I would get a duplicate now and if this means anything?

[merlin436]

okay sounds like a process very similar to bp. I just really wanna get any port in the rio grande valley and get out of laredo. So all i gotta do is get a good score on the test and complete the hiring process then i get offered a port. Hows the pay compared to bp and is the job fun or is it boring. thanks

The pay is GS vrs GL. How that works out in real life mostly dpends on how much OT you see in the port. 2X COPRA OT for any work over 8 hours in a day or 40 hours a week. 50 percent Sunday diff. 20 percent midnight diff, 15 percent evening diff.

As far as fun or boring, it depends on you. How well do you like chasing toncs through the desert?

[audi0xpl0de]

Just got another NOR via e-mail. I tested in july and got my original NOR in August. Anyone know why I would get a duplicate now and if this means anything?

It's a glitch in the system. I received 6 NORs I think over 3 months.

[Borderpatrol007]

well the pay doesnt sound to bad.. As far as chasing illegals it is fun but cbp sounds like a good job as well. I will have to lookout for that announcement.

[sap123]

Just got another NOR via e-mail. I tested in july and got my original NOR in August. Anyone know why I would get a duplicate now and if this means anything?

Did you change your geo pref or contact them about qualifying for a higher pay grade? That could be a reason why they sent it to you again.

[irishlad2nv]

okay sounds like a process very similar to bp. I just really wanna get any port in the rio grande valley and get out of laredo. So all i gotta do is get a good score on the test and complete the hiring process then i get offered a port. Hows the pay compared to bp and is the job fun or is it boring. thanks

It will not be GL pay and you will not receive AUO. From there, figure the math out. However if you are that un-happy after 6 months, not counting how long it took you to get hired, the academy and knowing going in where you would work and how long you would have to stay there...decision is up to you. I know of several ex BP's that are now with ICE as DO and love every paycheck:rolleyes: and the job itself.

[s0lid snake]

Alright this might be a silly question to you guys, but I have no law enforcement experiences and little knowledge of the jurisdictions and such.

If you are chasing after a suspect, how do you identify yourself?

Do you say federal officer, customs and border protection officer, or police?

[sap123]

Alright this might be a silly question to you guys, but I have no law enforcement experiences and little knowledge of the jurisdictions and such.

If you are chasing after a suspect, how do you identify yourself?

Do you say federal officer, customs and border protection officer, or police?

I don't think CBPOs do too much chasing of subjects. I think they leave that to the guys in green. Then again, I suppose it might happen at a port now and again.

disclosure: not a CBPO, talking out of my butt, etc etc...

[merlin436]

Alright this might be a silly question to you guys, but I have no law enforcement experiences and little knowledge of the jurisdictions and such.

If you are chasing after a suspect, how do you identify yourself?

Do you say federal officer, customs and border protection officer, or police?

This will be covered in training, use whatever the training officers tell you to use.

In the real world, it's probably a bit of all three.

[juststartedthis]

Anyone else get another random NOR today? This is the 4th time I have received a copy of my original NORs. Also I tested in July and still haven't received a TO for VT, does anyone know anything about upcoming T.O.s or vacancies? Specifically VT.

Thank you for all the help guys and girls.

[sap123]

Anyone else get another random NOR today? This is the 4th time I have received a copy of my original NORs. Also I tested in July and still haven't received a TO for VT, does anyone know anything about upcoming T.O.s or vacancies? Specifically VT.

Thank you for all the help guys and girls.

Sounds like a glitch then. This just happened to someone one page back in this thread, so I'd not worry about it. Heck, it might even mean they're working on your app!

[erikb]

I received an email from MHS today:
"You have been requested to begin rescheduling your medical and fitness exams for your application with U. S. Customs and Border Protection."

This seemed odd since I just did them on Septemper 4th. I emailed her back and she said that comprehensive health said I was a no show. I was wondering what was taking so long to update Med and FIT in CASS.

I called the clinic that I went to and they said that they sent the packet the same day.

MHS said they have requested the documents from CHS.

My fun for the day.

Erik

[juststartedthis]

Sounds like a glitch then. This just happened to someone one page back in this thread, so I'd not worry about it. Heck, it might even mean they're working on your app!

Thanks for the optimism. I know we all have to wait; but 3-4 months seems longer than most have waited for a TO. I just want to get started so I can hurry and wait. :D

[bronze01]

...an SCO just got his first shirt with the new left side patch. :eek:

IMHO (and his): It's huge (bigger than the CBP Patch, much bigger).

Would be interesting to hear other CBPOs chime in on their opinion.

I guess we'll get used to it.

[Firebug]

...an SCO just got his first shirt with the new left side patch. :eek:

IMHO (and his): It's huge (bigger than the CBP Patch, much bigger).

Would be interesting to hear other CBPOs chime in on their opinion.

I guess we'll get used to it.


The agency worrys way too much about the uniform and what it looks like and not enough about how this job should actually be done.

FB

[mi562]

...an SCO just got his first shirt with the new left side patch. :eek:

IMHO (and his): It's huge (bigger than the CBP Patch, much bigger).

Would be interesting to hear other CBPOs chime in on their opinion.

I guess we'll get used to it.

Waste of money!!!!!!!!

[Peteylaw06]

Anyone else get another random NOR today? This is the 4th time I have received a copy of my original NORs. Also I tested in July and still haven't received a TO for VT, does anyone know anything about upcoming T.O.s or vacancies? Specifically VT.

Thank you for all the help guys and girls.

I actually had this happen to me today as well. I almost was going to use it as an excuse to call MHC to check the status of my application. lol.

Anyway, my geo was originally Vt. so maybe there is a connection...

[Hound77]

This will be covered in training, use whatever the training officers tell you to use.

In the real world, it's probably a bit of all three.

So no "Federal Agent show me your hands!"? Whelp there goes my Fox Mulder fantasies. :p I'd better be able to meet aliens, the ads specifically said I got to meet aliens.

[sap123]

So no "Federal Agent show me your hands!"? Whelp there goes my Fox Mulder fantasies. :p I'd better be able to meet aliens, the ads specifically said I got to meet aliens.

Hey man, ET has to cross the border like everyone else.

[docguy]

Got the call last week. And i know everyone was wondering about the time line so here is mine.
Test in March of 08 with a 95.
Medical/PT July
VBT August
met with investigator in Sept.
I was called on Oct. 16 with the offer.
My process was a little delayed because i had to reschedule my physical by a month.
Good luck to all

[erikb]

Congrats on your offer

Got the call last week. And i know everyone was wondering about the time line so here is mine.
Test in March of 08 with a 95.
Medical/PT July
VBT August
met with investigator in Sept.
I was called on Oct. 16 with the offer.
My process was a little delayed because i had to reschedule my physical by a month.
Good luck to all

[barnaj]

Hey man, ET has to cross the border like everyone else.

Q: Did you know E.T. had has a brother with 3 balls?


Punchline: They call him the Extra Testicle.

[FutureTrooper1]

Anyone in NJ get a to? What was your score? I got a 92 and haven't heard anything, am I still far away?

[mi562]

So no "Federal Agent show me your hands!"? Whelp there goes my Fox Mulder fantasies. :p I'd better be able to meet aliens, the ads specifically said I got to meet aliens.


Actually, "police" will do.

[Hound77]

Got the call last week. And i know everyone was wondering about the time line so here is mine.
Test in March of 08 with a 95.
Medical/PT July
VBT August
met with investigator in Sept.
I was called on Oct. 16 with the offer.
My process was a little delayed because i had to reschedule my physical by a month.
Good luck to all

Congrats, what port did they offer you?

[qixfeet]

Actually, "police" will do.


+1

As for the OFO patch, No one notices and the public don't care. I agree 100% waste of money. But I'll be honest, they don't look that bad.

[rjdispatch]

I sent in the stuff for the GS-5 because I was unsure of my qualifications. I'm not currently in law enforcement and only have a bachelor’s degree. That sounded like text book GS-5 to me.....But, I have worked as a professional for over 14 years so, in my mind, I'd like to think that my life experience is worth more than that of a 21 year old (no offence if your 21). Of course I was approved for GS-5, but if there was a chance that a determination could have been made to get GS-7, I'd really prefer that. Has anyone been given GS-7 with similar qualifications? And if so, can you request a reconsideration?

Yeah Im in the same situation as you. I only had a bachelor's degree and my job has been in aviation for the past 9 years and they gave me GS7. I think that I qualified because of my grade point average but I still would have tried for the 7 if I were you.

[rbakous1]

+1

As for the OFO patch, No one notices and the public don't care. I agree 100% waste of money. But I'll be honest, they don't look that bad.

Can you tell me where to find this? I would like to see it.

Thanks

[imlikeaninja]

..........

[tigers2007]

Yeah Im in the same situation as you. I only had a bachelor's degree and my job has been in aviation for the past 9 years and they gave me GS7. I think that I qualified because of my grade point average but I still would have tried for the 7 if I were you.

Go for the GS7. I am loosing my ***** at FLETC not being able to work my two side jobs. With GS5 I am making $788 after taxes,retirement,etc. every two weeks. That covers about 2/3 of my mortgage. Apparently, I did fully qual for GS7 and I was a fool to jump the gun and take the GS5. I did put in for the GS5 and GS7 but I should have ripped up the GS5 offer and waited a week or two for the GS7. The pay difference is like $230 less per paycheck per pay period.

I seriously considered getting a part-time job at the local Wal-Mart to cover my other bills because I'm scraping along here at the flea-tech. The bright side is that I only have a few more weeks here and then I can resume my other side jobs that will help out with the bills. Plan ahead. I saw this coming before coming here so I made sure I had a fat emergency fund stockpiled with every available penny.

[Flyer13]

Well, I'm a East Texas guy who tested in late November of 2007. I had some stuff to clear up, so it took me a while longer than 'average'. Well, I finally got referred to schedule E.O.D. early this month, and now there's no openings in the East Texas ports. I'm specifically wanting to be based in Houston, because that's where I live, but who knows. Anyone else waiting for Houston? Seems just a few months ago there was a plethura of Houston recruits going off to training. Seems like I might have missed the boat.

I really hope I get in soon, I am so anxious to get in there and experience this Customs and Border Protection position. I hope it's right for me, I've only experienced the 'client' side of Customs. But I've always wanted to do something to serve my country again, having been honorably discharged from the military since '92. And how better to do that than protecting the American people at the entry points and ports.

And one last point I'd like to share: For those of you considering LASIK surgery, let me tell you. It's one of the best things I've ever spent money on. My vision is great, and I never have to fart around with those crappy contacts or glasses again. I really wish I would have done it sooner.

Well, good luck to everyone. I know it can be frustrating. I've been waiting a long time, and now, I just have to wait a little longer. Well, at this point, I can wait, because I want this. Sorry for the long read. Take care.

[tigers2007]

What is the policy on facial hair? Only reason I ask I saw a video with a CBPO with a beard. I don't mind it....

At fletc you can have a Mustacho if its trimmed neatly and doesn't go below where the upper and lower lips meet. Apparently you can have a neatly trimmed beard if you get a medical waiver for skin problems. I thought I read somewhere that at the actual port men can have a beard for religious reasons? Hell, women can wear skirts with pumps due to religious reasons. I'm not sure if women can wear a vail.

[will0861]

So here's a question. I sent in my NOPA response about 4 months ago. About 2 months ago, the lady told me I won't have any problems, and I just need to get my file singed off. So, it's been 4 months total, and no end in sight. Can those of you who dealt with a NOPA tell me how long it took from the time you sent the letter until you were finally cleared.

Thanks

[nordy racer]

Go for the GS7. I am loosing my ***** at FLETC not being able to work my two side jobs. With GS5 I am making $788 after taxes,retirement,etc. every two weeks. That covers about 2/3 of my mortgage. Apparently, I did fully qual for GS7 and I was a fool to jump the gun and take the GS5. I did put in for the GS5 and GS7 but I should have ripped up the GS5 offer and waited a week or two for the GS7. The pay difference is like $230 less per paycheck per pay period.

I seriously considered getting a part-time job at the local Wal-Mart to cover my other bills because I'm scraping along here at the flea-tech. The bright side is that I only have a few more weeks here and then I can resume my other side jobs that will help out with the bills. Plan ahead. I saw this coming before coming here so I made sure I had a fat emergency fund stockpiled with every available penny.

i'm in the same boat man.. i'm working my part time job, at full time hours just to try to pay some bills off (on top of my reg full time job). i'm also going to be WAY off my mortgage, dont know how.. thankfully we have a savings account to fall back on for a bit ( but i would hate too) and thankfully the wife works.. i do not know how familys deal with the low pay for the first couple years...

[merlin436]

...an SCO just got his first shirt with the new left side patch. :eek:

IMHO (and his): It's huge (bigger than the CBP Patch, much bigger).

Would be interesting to hear other CBPOs chime in on their opinion.

I guess we'll get used to it.

You must not work with anybody with the old-style patches then. Back in 2005 or so they changed patches to the current ones. The old ones were as large as the new OFO patch, and maybe a bit larger.

[s0lid snake]

Has anyone from the San Francisco and Oakland area received words for the VBT?

[merlin436]

Can you tell me where to find this? I would like to see it.

Thanks

http://i22.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/0c/68/25af_1_b.JPG


That's not it exactly, but it's a fairly good knockoff.

[merlin436]

Actually, "police" will do.

That'll work. I have seen management that have taken issue with that though.
It might not be the best option for a new hire.

[merlin436]

One thing about the GS-05/GS-07 applications...

They only issue a certain number of GS-07 slots. Once used up, that's it. Only GS-05's are offered after that point regardless of your qualifications.

If you really want the job, it's best to fill out both quals.

Depending on your port and what it has for OT, it's possible a GS-05 could well pass a GS-07 end-of-the-year money-wise.

[Flyer13]

Go for the GS7. I am loosing my ***** at FLETC not being able to work my two side jobs. With GS5 I am making $788 after taxes,retirement,etc. every two weeks. That covers about 2/3 of my mortgage. Apparently, I did fully qual for GS7 and I was a fool to jump the gun and take the GS5. I did put in for the GS5 and GS7 but I should have ripped up the GS5 offer and waited a week or two for the GS7. The pay difference is like $230 less per paycheck per pay period.

I seriously considered getting a part-time job at the local Wal-Mart to cover my other bills because I'm scraping along here at the flea-tech. The bright side is that I only have a few more weeks here and then I can resume my other side jobs that will help out with the bills. Plan ahead. I saw this coming before coming here so I made sure I had a fat emergency fund stockpiled with every available penny.

Keep your head up. You may be working some overtime depending on your port's needs, that will boost you right on up there. I know it sucks, but in the long run, years down the road, you'll be happy. Hang in there.
Of course you already know this....

[JRizEJ6]

So here's a question. I sent in my NOPA response about 4 months ago. About 2 months ago, the lady told me I won't have any problems, and I just need to get my file singed off. So, it's been 4 months total, and no end in sight. Can those of you who dealt with a NOPA tell me how long it took from the time you sent the letter until you were finally cleared.

Thanks

i posted some pages back about me receiving a NOPA and sent in my response before the deadline which was oct 8th. i just got my pre-employment packet this past saturday on the 18th. try getting a hold of IA.

[jrq16]

i posted some pages back about me receiving a NOPA and sent in my response before the deadline which was oct 8th. i just got my pre-employment packet this past saturday on the 18th. try getting a hold of IA.

You received your NOPA before you got your T.O.?

jrq16

[mi562]

That'll work. I have seen management that have taken issue with that though.
It might not be the best option for a new hire.

Not unless they've changed it, that's what we say. Who in the world is going to say, "Customs and Border Protection Officer, drop your weapon," or CBP Officer, drop your weapon." You have to identify yourself, and everyone knows "police." Not everyone knows what CBP is. :o

[barnaj]

Not unless they've changed it, that's what we say. Who in the world is going to say, "Customs and Border Protection Officer, drop your weapon," or CBP Officer, drop your weapon." You have to identify yourself, and everyone knows "police." Not everyone knows what CBP is. :o

At FLETC the arrest techniques instructor taught us to say "federal officer" or "police". The idea is just to identify yourself as law enforcement. The rest is just semantics.

[irishlad2nv]

The key is to Identify yourself as clearly as possible. With most agencies such as local, state or feds, just saying "police" will get the point across to the citizen ( or illegal).

[will0861]

i posted some pages back about me receiving a NOPA and sent in my response before the deadline which was oct 8th. i just got my pre-employment packet this past saturday on the 18th. try getting a hold of IA.


I call IA every two weeks like the lady suggested.

[sap123]

anyone else have issues with the job status line? I called this morning and it was being pretty loopy, and hung up on me both times I tried. I guess I'll try it again this afternoon.

[wmcgalrd]

To schedule the VBT is it a phone call like the medical or is it a letter in the mail?

[sap123]

To schedule the VBT is it a phone call like the medical or is it a letter in the mail?

The official scheduling notice comes in the mail. That being said, CASS and the job status line will let you know when you have been scheduled. When it does, then you know that the letter is on the way to you.

[wmcgalrd]

anyone else have issues with the job status line? I called this morning and it was being pretty loopy, and hung up on me both times I tried. I guess I'll try it again this afternoon.

Yeah it did the same thing to me yesterday. I thought maybe it was because I was driving and the background noise.

[wmcgalrd]

The official scheduling notice comes in the mail. That being said, CASS or the job status will let you know when you have been scheduled. When it does, then you know that the letter is on the way to you.

Thanks

[Hound77]

The official scheduling notice comes in the mail. That being said, CASS and the job status line will let you know when you have been scheduled. When it does, then you know that the letter is on the way to you.

Things don't always happen in that order. I got a phone call (they needed one sheet that had been misplaced somehow, so I fax it to them) the lady on the phone told me I was being sent to TSU, then I got a letter in the mail, then almost a week later CASS finally updated.

[sap123]

Things don't always happen in that order. I got a phone call (they needed one sheet that had been misplaced somehow, so I fax it to them) the lady on the phone told me I was being sent to TSU, then I got a letter in the mail, then almost a week later CASS finally updated.

I was strictly speaking about the VBT, and I've never heard of people getting called to get scheduled for a VBT. Since they have to have it scheduled on their end before letting you know, it just makes sense that you will probably be informed via CASS/status line that you have been scheduled before you get the letter. TSU is a whole other ball game.

[Hound77]

I was strictly speaking about the VBT, and I've never heard of people getting called to get scheduled for a VBT. Since they have to have it scheduled on their end before letting you know, it just makes sense that you will probably be informed via CASS/status line that you have been scheduled before you get the letter. TSU is a whole other ball game.

Ack, sorry, RIF and all that. My bad.

[sap123]

No harm no foul. Hope you get out of the TSU hotel soon!

[colinm112]

sorry what does NOPA stand for? are they the letters they send whenever you arent cleared for something, like medical/background/etc.?

[DaBonk112]

How long after the BI begins does the investigator contact you?

[wmcgalrd]

The official scheduling notice comes in the mail. That being said, CASS and the job status line will let you know when you have been scheduled. When it does, then you know that the letter is on the way to you.

You are correct. I called the status line and it says oral board has been scheduled. I guess a letter will be coming soon.

[audi0xpl0de]

A lot of VBTs are getting scheduled this week. Hopefully mine will as well!

[Pawn922]

One thing about the GS-05/GS-07 applications...

They only issue a certain number of GS-07 slots. Once used up, that's it. Only GS-05's are offered after that point regardless of your qualifications.

If you really want the job, it's best to fill out both quals.

Depending on your port and what it has for OT, it's possible a GS-05 could well pass a GS-07 end-of-the-year money-wise.

Well, this was the concern that I had when I filled out my form. I was affraid that if I didn't qualify for GS-7 that I would either lose my opportunity altogether or at very least be delayed in my processing. As much as I'd like to re-apply for the GS-7; at this point, I have already been determined a GS-5 and I'm affraid that to re-apply for GS-7 would only hurt my chances at getting in sooner than later.

[Pawn922]

I have heard that the Gubb'a'ment will offer tuition assistance. Does anyone know anything about that?

[sap123]

You are correct. I called the status line and it says oral board has been scheduled. I guess a letter will be coming soon.

Rats, well the hotline still isn't working for me, so I guess I get to be surprised the old fashioned way. Snail mail it is.

Forgot to add that I'm jealous of everyone getting their VBTs ready to go.

[s0lid snake]

Rats, well the hotline still isn't working for me, so I guess I get to be surprised the old fashioned way. Snail mail it is.



Same here. It keeps repeating itself and then hangs up on me. :mad:

[yoda]

sorry what does NOPA stand for? are they the letters they send whenever you arent cleared for something, like medical/background/etc.?

NOPA = Notice of Proposed Action

You get a NOPA for issues pertaining you BI, if it's something that can be explained or demonstrated as a non-issue. If something comes up that is a definite DQ then you just get a call asking you to withdraw your application.

I am finishing up my response letter this week, and hopefully everything will clear up, WISH ME LUCK GUYS!...:)

[JRizEJ6]

You received your NOPA before you got your T.O.?

jrq16
yep. in my NOPA it said based on answers you provided for the following questions on your online application, we found you unsuitable blah blah blah. then it continued to list seven or eight questions that i dont ever remember answering before. now that i think about it the questions they listed were straight from the online e-qip application that you fill out when you get your TO. weird because i couldnt have answered those questions when i havent even received my TO or instructions to complete the e-qip application. probably just some slip up on their end but its all good now. im actually filling out all my forms right now. going out tomorrow to get my prints taken care of and should be sending out all my forms the day after.

[Mustang342]

Can anyone at FLETC tell me if there's any more room for the on campus dorms? Is it a single or shared dorm?

[merlin436]

Not unless they've changed it, that's what we say. Who in the world is going to say, "Customs and Border Protection Officer, drop your weapon," or CBP Officer, drop your weapon." You have to identify yourself, and everyone knows "police." Not everyone knows what CBP is. :o


I'm not disagreeing with you.

I'm just saying that I have worked in a place or two where management goes into 'conniptions and fits' whenever "police" is used by a CBPO. If no one has issues with it at where you're at, all the better for you.

[rbakous1]

http://i22.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/0c/68/25af_1_b.JPG


That's not it exactly, but it's a fairly good knockoff.

Thanks, that was very cool.

[MAVERIK]

Question to current CBP or Federal Officers. Does DHS hire from within? After doing your time as a CBPO does DHS offer advancement in other positions ie) mission support, intelligence, IT etc. Will they allow you to apply or transfer if you wish. The reason why I am asking is many of these positions require GS11 experience to be considered.

Thanks

[jrq16]

Question to current CBP or Federal Officers. Does DHS hire from within? After doing your time as a CBPO does DHS offer advancement in other positions ie) mission support, intelligence, IT etc. Will they allow you to apply or transfer if you wish. The reason why I am asking is many of these positions require GS11 experience to be considered.

Thanks

Very Good Question.

jrq16

[kc12]

I have heard that the Gubb'a'ment will offer tuition assistance. Does anyone know anything about that?


As far as I have been able to determine you have to be off probation and submit the paperwork through the chain. It looks like most of the money goes unclaimed. I don't recall how much they actually give, but it isn't a whole lot.

[colinm112]

Question to current CBP or Federal Officers. Does DHS hire from within? After doing your time as a CBPO does DHS offer advancement in other positions ie) mission support, intelligence, IT etc. Will they allow you to apply or transfer if you wish. The reason why I am asking is many of these positions require GS11 experience to be considered.

Thanks

+1 for this question. I am very interested to hear some details about this. Do they give pref to internal hires on any level? how easy is it to transfer? do they frown upon this sort of thing?

[barnaj]

+1 for this question. I am very interested to hear some details about this. Do they give pref to internal hires on any level? how easy is it to transfer? do they frown upon this sort of thing?

Well one way is to look for the acronym VEOA (if you are a veteran). This act allows veterans of the armed forces with 3 or more years of continuous active duty with an honorable discharge to compete for these gs-11 slots. Not saying that any of them ever get hired, but at least they give you a chance to apply. I applied for a gs-9 slot as a cbpo with no experience at the time under this act. My app went through but the position vacancy was removed for some reason before i heard anything.

[kc12]

Question to current CBP or Federal Officers. Does DHS hire from within? After doing your time as a CBPO does DHS offer advancement in other positions ie) mission support, intelligence, IT etc. Will they allow you to apply or transfer if you wish. The reason why I am asking is many of these positions require GS11 experience to be considered.

Thanks

The answer is sort of. Some positions are only for career conditional applicants. In those situations you have to meet the eligibility requirements, which is to be off probation and be a federal employee. These slots can be available to vets. The problem with the vets are the announcement normally requires at least one year of specialized experience at the next lower grade. When you get to the 11 grade and higher it is very difficult to obtain any specialized experience outside of government service, so unless the vet can qualify by doing the job in the military then they typically are not very competitive. Just because you have experience at the GS-11 level does not mean it is specialized. You can be a GS-11 at the BOP, but you will only qualify as a GS-7 for CBPO.

[Pawn922]

As far as I have been able to determine you have to be off probation and submit the paperwork through the chain. It looks like most of the money goes unclaimed. I don't recall how much they actually give, but it isn't a whole lot.

Thanks for the info KC,

A question for any current CBPOs.....

It is my understanding that after GS-11 promotions become competitive. Does, education pay off when applying for supervisor and other positions, or would I better off not investing my time and money into a master’s degree or second bachelor’s degree?

Additionally, if I was going to further my education, what areas of study would be most advantageous?

[bronze01]

Starting next Monday, San Francisco and Oakland will be conducting 144 VBTs within a 3 week period. Good luck to those taking it. I'd say relax, but, I tried and it's rather nerve racking. 2cents: It's an experience like no other. Results usually get to you via mail within 2 weeks after taking here.

[sap123]

Starting next Monday, San Francisco and Oakland will be conducting 144 VBTs within a 3 week period. Good luck to those taking it. I'd say relax, but, I tried and it's rather nerve racking. 2cents: It's an experience like no other. Results usually get to you via mail within 2 weeks after taking here.

Do you mean just at those locations or for those people who have SF/Oakland as their geo pref?

[bronze01]

Do you mean just at those locations or for those people who have SF/Oakland as their geo pref?

Don't think so because I took mine here and geo pref is Washington State - All Other Locations.

Good question!

[sap123]

Don't think so because I took mine here and geo pref is Washington State - All Other Locations.

Good question!

Well I'm in Sacramento and my geo pref is San Diego. I took my written test in SF too, so here's hoping.

Then again, I guess I should be scheduled by now if it's coming up in the next three weeks?

[colinm112]

The VBT is not a difficult thing to pass, there is no prep for it and its very straightforward. Use common sense and you will pass without a hitch. Its actually one of the more entertaining steps of this whole process. Enjoy it, learn from it, and dont be nervous. Above all, BE PROFESSIONAL. I cannot stress that enough.

[MilwaukeeBucks]

Just got my VBT scheduled at Ft. Snelling for Nov. 3rd.

[sap123]

I was just notified that my VBT scheduling letter was sent TODAY. Nov 13th at SFO. Good luck to everyone on the VBT!

[s0lid snake]

Should I be worried that I haven't been scheduled for the VBT yet because some of you guys have a similar time line. I tested on Aug 21, TO on Sept 23, Medical/Fitness Oct. 14.

[sap123]

Should I be worried that I haven't been scheduled for the VBT yet because some of you guys have a similar time line. I tested on Aug 21, TO on Sept 23, Medical/Fitness Oct. 14.

It seems to me that the VBT rounds are really just starting more than anything. You have similar timeline to all of the other August testers. I'd say you're closer than you think at this point. Don't take my word for it though, all you can do is prep yourself for academy and bide your time.

[barnaj]

Should I be worried that I haven't been scheduled for the VBT yet because some of you guys have a similar time line. I tested on Aug 21, TO on Sept 23, Medical/Fitness Oct. 14.

Not to worry there seems to be no particular order for these things. All though i will say that it was my understanding that you cant contiue the process if you dont pass the VBT. For me it was the first step after my t.o.

[Hound77]

I remember reading that a good number of CBPO's jumped over to ICE when the agencies split b/c ICE pays more/has a high journeyman pay cap. Then when CBPO's got LEO status a bunch of ICE staff were trying to switch to CBP to take advantage of the retirement status.

Based on that I always assumed that agency hopping is possible once you finish your probation period. I realize that using logic to assume things about how the Feds work can be dangerous. But at least in the case of ICE and BP there seems to be a decent amount of opportunity to change agency.

[gms632]

Is there any comparison (as far as difficulty, types of questions) between the CBPO test and the Treasury Enforcement Test?

[Ry greve]

After almost a year of being in the processing phase for CBPO and daily reading of this forum, I have enjoyed the many informative conversations, learned from inciteful answers to questions, and gremaced at the sophomoric bickerings of some. I write now to offer any helpful information I can. All that I ask is that questions whose answers may contain what is to be considered confidential information and not discussed in an open public forum be directed to me at my email address.

I started in law enforcemnent at the age of 21 with the Denver police department. After five years I left to join the Marine Corps (not an MP). I am a Gulf War/Somalia veteran. After my full contract was up I was recruited by the Border Patrol and was an agent for a short amount of time before leaving to work for the then Federal Emergency Agency/pre 911 and currently FEMA under DHS. Helping a friend with no LE background apply for a a CBP aouncement in October of 07, I found myself caught up in the application process as well.

I applied on line in Montana for a Montana GEO in October 07. Took the written test in November of 07. Received a TO for GS7 Montana with a score of 104 (with veteran's preference) in December 07. Passed the VBT in January 08. Took the physical/fittness test in March of 08. Met with by BI in April 08. I received 5 medical NOPAs; vision, hearing, abnormal ECG, neurology, and otrhopedics. I was able to be seen by specialists within the VA system as well as the private sector within 60 days. I was cleared by all and my medical has been pending for three months.

The friend I applied and tested with is now in her 9th week at FLETC. I have a good friend who is now picking up his third class at the BP FLETC as a PT instructor GS11, and another very close friend, we were in the same BP academy class, who is now a GS12 ICE agent.

This is an outstanding forum for those starting out in the process and I have found the monitoring of discussions and the topics by current CBPOs to be exemplary. If I might offer any insight from my experiences or close relationships with other FLEOs and students please feel free to write me.

For those of you with no prior military or LE experience, come ino this with an open mind. For those of you claiming such backgrounds and the related traits remember to be patient and flexible.

Good luck to all of you. I keep up with postings on a daily basis.

RY

[sap123]

I applied on line in Montana for a Montana GEO in October 07. Took the written test in November of 07. Received a TO for GS7 Montana with a score of 104 (with veteran's preference) in December 07. Passed the VBT in January 08. Took the physical/fittness test in March of 08. Met with by BI in April 08. I received 5 medical NOPAs; vision, hearing, abnormal ECG, neurology, and otrhopedics. I was able to be seen by specialists within the VA system as well as the private sector within 60 days. I was cleared by all and my medical has been pending for three months.


:eek: 5 NOPAs? Yowza! I think you got us all beat in that department my friend!

So you're still waiting to become cleared with medical? Have you talked to the medical unit and are they still just waiting on a final determination?

[Ry greve]

:eek: 5 NOPAs? Yowza! I think you got us all beat in that department my friend!

So you're still waiting to become cleared with medical? Have you talked to the medical unit and are they still just waiting on a final determination?

Afirm. I am a 70% disabled vet, no different than when I went into BP. The difference this time is age. I was 37 then, I am 47 now.

As was the case with many posters here, the physical exam was not administered by specialists in the field. I was told I was going deaf in one ear, blind in one eye, the abnormal ECG was due to improper placement of electrodes. The neuro and ortho where the only legitimate claims. I broke my back in the Corps and have minor nerve issues from it but nothing preventing me from completing training and working the job as evidenced by being a BPA.

[s0lid snake]

Afirm. I am a 70% disabled vet, no different than when I went into BP. The difference this time is age. I was 37 then, I am 47 now.

As was the case with many posters here, the physical exam was not administered by specialists in the field. I was told I was going deaf in one ear, blind in one eye, the abnormal ECG was due to improper placement of electrodes. The neuro and ortho where the only legitimate claims. I broke my back in the Corps and have minor nerve issues from it but nothing preventing me from completing training and working the job as evidenced by being a BPA.

I feel you man, its funny how they send us to like the cheapest clinic they could find. Read my other post if you want to know how horrible my physical exam experience was. I knew right after the exam that there would be problems with my blood pressure and vision (had prk a week before the exam so eyes weren't healed all the way) and so I emailed the medical unit and they emailed back saying they will check into it and get back to me asap. Do you know what would happen next, should I be expecting a letter soon saying I need to go see a specialist?

[rbakous1]

I feel you man, its funny how they send us to like the cheapest clinic they could find. Read my other post if you want to know how horrible my physical exam experience was. I knew right after the exam that there would be problems with my blood pressure and vision (had prk a week before the exam so eyes weren't healed all the way) and so I emailed the medical unit and they emailed back saying they will check into it and get back to me asap. Do you know what would happen next, should I be expecting a letter soon saying I need to go see a specialist?

I was reading your post and I am concerned now with my medical, which I took back on Oct 12. Everything was normal but I have a very low resting heart rate, roughly 40-45 bpm. I workout 6 days a week and watch my diet. The doctor noted that "abnormality" on my chart and sent it in to medical. I'm worried I might get one of those NOPA's everyone is discussing. I've never had any health problems in my life and I train for endurance as well as strength. I just took another physical for my current job (armed guard) and the doctor noted the same thing, although he didn't seem as taken back by it as the doctor for my CBPO medical. I was asked if I was a runner, which I am, but now I'm concerned this might hold me back or delay things, and I really don't want to fork over x amount of dollars to see a specialist just to tell me that nothing is wrong with me, especially in our current economic state. Anyone else have an abnormal EKG? How does DHS handle this, assuming the applicant is in otherwise sound health.

Thanks!

[kc12]

Based on that I always assumed that agency hopping is possible once you finish your probation period. I realize that using logic to assume things about how the Feds work can be dangerous. But at least in the case of ICE and BP there seems to be a decent amount of opportunity to change agency.

You don't need to be off probation to change agencies. You don't sign a contract or anything so there is no way for the government to hold onto you. It makes sense if you think about it, the G doesn't want people protecting the country who don't want to be with that particular agency.

[Ry greve]

I feel you man, its funny how they send us to like the cheapest clinic they could find. Read my other post if you want to know how horrible my physical exam experience was. I knew right after the exam that there would be problems with my blood pressure and vision (had prk a week before the exam so eyes weren't healed all the way) and so I emailed the medical unit and they emailed back saying they will check into it and get back to me asap. Do you know what would happen next, should I be expecting a letter soon saying I need to go see a specialist?

I cannot say exactly what will happen with your case. Judging from the responses of a large number of applicants that have had vission issues and subsequently had corrective surgery, you should receive a Notice Of Personnel Action (NOPA). In it is explained a detailed process to complete, records and doctors reports, as well as further required testing. It is my belief that those having corrective surgery for an optomitry NOPA will be retested by a specialist at their own expense 90 days following the surgery. NOPAs are not uncommon and as long as you follow the simple instructions there is usually no reson to be found not medically cleared because of corrective eye surgery.

[DDixon1000]

Hey guys I got my TO for Michigan about a month ago. I was immediatly contacted for my Medical which was done the week of Oct 10. I received a letter today to begin my background stating an agent will be at my residence on 11/07. I have never taken the VBT. So, for those of you who are under the impression you can't start the process until a VBT is done your wrong. I'm sure thats my next step but I haven't been sceduled for it yet.

[sap123]

Hey guys I got my TO for Michigan about a month ago. I was immediatly contacted for my Medical which was done the week of Oct 10. I received a letter today to begin my background stating an agent will be at my residence on 11/07. I have never taken the VBT. So, for those of you who are under the impression you can't start the process until a VBT is done your wrong. I'm sure thats my next step but I haven't been sceduled for it yet.

You got a letter that a BI was coming to your house but not a phone call from him or anything?

[DDixon1000]

Yeah,
It's a letter stating we will be meeting on 11/07 and to contact him to finalize details. I found that strange too considering most others say the investigator calls. The other thing I find strange is that everything is getting done so fast. I've had the TO, medical, and background now all within a month.

[sap123]

Yeah,
It's a letter stating we will be meeting on 11/07 and to contact him to finalize details. I found that strange too considering most others say the investigator calls. The other thing I find strange is that everything is getting done so fast. I've had the TO, medical, and background now all within a month.

Interesting.

To be fair, I'd say that what it looks like from all of the applicants that post here, the movement has been on the quicker side, generally speaking. The bulk of the August testers have gotten their TOs within a month plus, and have completed at least some other portion of pre-employment (whether it's med/fit or some other thing). Maybe this is on par, I don't really know how to gauge the speed of movement in these apps because it seems like one month can see a ton of movement and another can be dead slow.

[juststartedthis]

Interesting.

To be fair, I'd say that what it looks like from all of the applicants that post here, the movement has been on the quicker side, generally speaking. The bulk of the August testers have gotten their TOs within a month plus, and have completed at least some other portion of pre-employment (whether it's med/fit or some other thing). Maybe this is on par, I don't really know how to gauge the speed of movement in these apps because it seems like one month can see a ton of movement and another can be dead slow.

I wish I fit into that category. I tested in late July (practically August) and still have not hear anything other than several NORs. I figured since VT was listed as a "Critical Need Location" there would be quicker movement; I guess I was wrong.

[rbakous1]

I wish I fit into that category. I tested in late July (practically August) and still have not hear anything other than several NORs. I figured since VT was listed as a "Critical Need Location" there would be quicker movement; I guess I was wrong.

From what I've been reading it seems like more West Coast applicants, myself included, are getting processed expeditiously. I have my VBT for NOV 12, I tested 08/18/08, here in AZ. I've completed my MED & FIT test on the same day about 2 weeks ago.

[juststartedthis]

From what I've been reading it seems like more West Coast applicants, myself included, are getting processed expeditiously. I have my VBT for NOV 12, I tested 08/18/08, here in AZ. I've completed my MED & FIT test on the same day about 2 weeks ago.

I think that is good for you guys and I hope the progress keeps up:); I just hope they don't forget about us Northeastern applicants.

[rbakous1]

I think that is good for you guys and I hope the progress keeps up:); I just hope they don't forget about us Northeastern applicants.
:cool:
Good Luck to you. :cool:

[depezhe]

Today I got a call from a lady phone number 202-326-0414. She told me that I had to provide a statement saying that my family is not longer in touch with my father in law. she told me to send the statement by fax.
I tried to call back to fallow up, but the number does not work. do you guys know the number to call and check if she got my fax?
thanks in advance

[madchiken]

They do that with the phone number because some people feel the need to post things like phone numbers on the internet... and others see it and think that it is ok to start cold calling looking for info on their file...

[audi0xpl0de]

Just got a call for my VBT as well. Pace is picking up, I just completed medical and fit test last week.

[Pawn922]

Today I got a call from a lady phone number 202-326-0414. She told me that I had to provide a statement saying that my family is not longer in touch with my father in law. she told me to send the statement by fax.
I tried to call back to fallow up, but the number does not work. do you guys know the number to call and check if she got my fax?
thanks in advance

Email the Office of Human Resources Management

mhc-cbpo.applicantinfo@dhs.gov

When I had questions about things they sent me a return email in under 24 hours.

[MilwaukeeBucks]

Anybody have their geo pref for Washington? Mine is Washington-Northern border, and so far it seems like the pace is pretty good. Pre-qualifications are all completed, med/fit done, and now I have my VBT in early November. Let me know if anyone else is going for that area..I tested on July 26th

[colinm112]

I was under the impression that once people received their T.O. that the basic tests are all completed within 2 months anyway. I haven't really heard of anyone waiting a really long time, for the most part. There are always your exceptions, but I don't see anything that would be considered expedited here as far as the basic tests go.

All of my tests were done within a 2 month span. Even the NOPA I received was cleared within that time frame. Its the background investigation that seems to bog most applications down. I have a clean background and have completed all the other steps and have met with my B.I. about 2 months ago, and he confirmed my file was complete and sent off for adjudication. This step is taking as long as all the others combined.

point of it all is dont get your heads down or go nuts because all your other steps were completed fast and then you get to your BI and it takes a while. Like I said theres always extremes like people getting cleared within a month of their BI and others waiting a year or more, but from my personal experience and a few others I know who are on my timeline, a normal wait would fall b/w 2 1/2-4 months from the time of meeting with your investigator.

[yoda]

Colinm:

Being that you're in MIA, you can't judge on timelines. For some reason people for MIA have been expedited in a ridiculously quick time (compared to most), and most have been granted "interim" clearances for their BI's. A somewhat "normal" process is about 6 months with the exceptions as myself and a few others that have been at it for over a year now. Be thankful that the process is only taking this long, because before the "NEW" way of processing hires the process took about 2 years in average to simply get a TO. I have a friend that took him about 3 years from Application to Hire...:cool:

BTW
Processing time for the BI alone is 3 to 6 months from the day you meet with the investigator.

[will0861]

It's great that things are moving so quickly for everyone. But, to reiterate what Yoda said, there is no rhyme or reason to the process. Pretty much anything can happen at any time, and there is no set time for how long it should take.

I'll give you an idea. My NOPA showed up 6 months after my BI started. It took another 2 months to get looked at and passed to the next step. About 8 weeks after that, it got moved to the director, where I'm sure it'll sit on a desk for several more weeks. I was told the next step, after approval, would be to refer me to HR. So, either I get booted to the curb, or I get a call.

The point is, don't get too hung up on timelines. The more I read about the career, the more excited I get. It's not high speed, door kicking, foot chases, but it's an extremely important job. You are stopping drugs, dangerous people, and helping the US economy function. So hang in there. I'm hoping I will see some of you on the job real soon.

[colinm112]

Colinm:

Being that you're in MIA, you can't judge on timelines. For some reason people for MIA have been expedited in a ridiculously quick time (compared to most), and most have been granted "interim" clearances for their BI's. A somewhat "normal" process is about 6 months with the exceptions as myself and a few others that have been at it for over a year now. Be thankful that the process is only taking this long, because before the "NEW" way of processing hires the process took about 2 years in average to simply get a TO. I have a friend that took him about 3 years from Application to Hire...:cool:

BTW
Processing time for the BI alone is 3 to 6 months from the day you meet with the investigator.

Well put. then we agree the BI is the longest step in the entire process... usually. :)

[grullj]

I got a call from my B.I. today. He said we will meet tomorrow for an interview and he said he is basically done with my investigation. I have been waiting since I got my T.O on 3/2008.

[audi0xpl0de]

I got a call from my B.I. today. He said we will meet tomorrow for an interview and he said he is basically done with my investigation. I have been waiting since I got my T.O on 3/2008.

So he completed the background before he interviewed you? Or is this a followup?

[wmcgalrd]

Just checked my mail and my VBT is scheduled for 11/05 at the Port of Houston.

[grullj]

No it seems like he interviewed everyone and he said he will be busy all day today interviewing people. And he also pulled up my credit. So it seems like saved me for last.

[sap123]

No it seems like he interviewed everyone and he said he will be busy all day today interviewing people. And he also pulled up my credit. So it seems like saved me for last.

So he's already interviewed your references? Have your references confirmed this?

[grullj]

Yes they have.

[sap123]

Yes they have.

Neato. Whats your timeline look like (besides getting your TO back in March)?

[yoda]

I got a call from my B.I. today. He said we will meet tomorrow for an interview and he said he is basically done with my investigation. I have been waiting since I got my T.O on 3/2008.

Good to hear... you probably will get an "interim" clearance since you're in MIA, but let me reiterate that after the investigator is done with references and your interview, he will send in the report to DC and there it will go through the adjudication process, and that takes time for those not in a port where they're pushing people through. As a guide to "timeline" on how long it took me.... within 3 months I had taken the test, gotten my TO, did Medical/Fitness/ VBT, Drug, and met with the investigator....THEN...Here I am still in the process... I have been writing my NOPA response for the past few days and I'm almost done with it ( I really don't want to mess up this opportunity with a crappy response) and you wouldn't believe how in detail they will go into your person on the investigation. So GOOD LUCK to all of you and please just don't expect your process to be super quick, cause you'll end up hating life while you wait...:cool:

[nordy racer]

i didn't want to write up a non CBPO thread but i posted in the CA section.. do you guys think this will help me with the hiring process LOL :)

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103275

[yoda]

i didn't want to write up a non CBPO thread but i posted in the CA section.. do you guys think this will help me with the hiring process LOL :)

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103275

Good for you bud.....That'll definitely look good on your Long Beach PD application!...:cool:

[audi0xpl0de]

Just got a call from my investigator who I'll be meeting with on Monday. So VBT and background calls today. Pretty good movement.

[sap123]

Just got a call from my investigator who I'll be meeting with on Monday. So VBT and background calls today. Pretty good movement.

Hot diggity. You might be one of the fewer east coasters that is seeing some decent movement. Make sure to dress to the nines and tell him everything!

[audi0xpl0de]

Yeah, I didn't know it, but my credit had been pulled on the 17th. Hope all will go well. I have no driving infractions, no criminal history, great credit, relatively young and haven't moved a lot, so should be a breeze.

[MilwaukeeBucks]

If I take the Border Patrol test will I have to go through all that med/fit stuff again? Or do they get the records from my CBPO application process?

[barnaj]

Some info for those waiting on BI. On a whim, i checked my free credit report yesterday. It said Customs pulled my info on 9/17/2008. Driving today, i had a missed call and voicemail. The V-mail was from an investigator stating he needed another reference not listed on my SF-86. I called him back when i got home and he said he got my file from their online database and said the only thing it wanted him to do was get one more personal reference. He asked when my interview was and i said he's the first contact i've had. He said, all it tells me to do is get on more reference. He asked me to call her and give her a heads up that he'd be calling her this evening if possible and it would take him 2 or 3 minutes. Not sure if im reading too much optimism into it, but it sounds good to me. He seems to think that this is all he needs to do because i had an interim clearance for cbp back in march of 2007. Im waiting by the horn to see if he calls me back. The whole point of this post is to let everyone know that you never know what is happening with your case and when you might get a call regarding it. Wish me luck and good luck!

[barnaj]

If I take the Border Patrol test will I have to go through all that med/fit stuff again? Or do they get the records from my CBPO application process?

they outta honor the medical, but the fitness is a bit different. I think you gotta do 20 pushups or something...

[sap123]

If I take the Border Patrol test will I have to go through all that med/fit stuff again? Or do they get the records from my CBPO application process?

Your Medical, Drug test and BI will carry over. The fitness test is technically different (although 'more difficult' ...relatively speaking), so you will have to do theirs. This is the reason I am ahead of most of the August tester group; I took the BPA written back in February and they had all of that stuff carry over.

[grullj]

Since I am meeting my investigator tomorrow. Is there a certain dres code I should follow? Keep in mind he will be coming over my house.

[sap123]

Personally, I'd still dress nice. I dunno, it's just a general rule of thumb when I'm dealing with any of these people. Play the part of the guy trying to get the job and be professional, regardless of where you're meeting up or whatever.

But to be fair, it's your home. Your call.

[barnaj]

Since I am meeting my investigator tomorrow. Is there a certain dres code I should follow? Keep in mind he will be coming over my house.

"Top Coat. Top Hat." Sorry, just a little ZZ Top reference. Business casual will do the trick.

[sap123]

"Top Coat. Top Hat." Sorry, just a little ZZ Top reference. Business casual will do the trick.

He has a point. Women DO go crazy for a sharp dressed man.

[barnaj]

He has a point. Women DO go crazy for a sharp dressed man.

He may also consider a "Pearl Necklace"...
Ok thats enough.

[USMC3537]

Your Medical, Drug test and BI will carry over. The fitness test is technically different (although 'more difficult' ...relatively speaking), so you will have to do theirs. This is the reason I am ahead of most of the August tester group; I took the BPA written back in February and they had all of that stuff carry over.

I did the exact same thing, I took the BPA test in Dec 07. The Med, BI, and Drug Test transferred over to this side. I actually got the call from BP last week and declined their offer for this job so I could stay in Miami. It's good though, all I have left is the VBT, hopefully they schedule that soon.

[USMC3537]

Since I am meeting my investigator tomorrow. Is there a certain dres code I should follow? Keep in mind he will be coming over my house.

Keep in mind this is the person who's opinion of you could make the difference whether you clear the BI or not. Personally, I wore slacks and a nice polo shirt. You should really want to try to make a good impression on this person. If it's early in the day, have some coffee brewed for them. Be sure to ask them if they would like a drink; water or something like that. Be courteous and hospitable, but don't be a tool or a kiss *****.

[merlin436]

Just a reminder to all applicants, read the whole thread.

The answers to almost all your questions(and many others) lie somewhere within the 191 plus pages of this thread. Do your own homework and search out your own answers. It's a skill that'll likely serve you greatly in the future.

[JRizEJ6]

got a question, so im filling out all my pre employment forms and im confused as to whether or not i am supposed to sign where it says "appointee's signature" on the OF-306 Declaration for Federal Emploment form?

[sap123]

I did the exact same thing, I took the BPA test in Dec 07. The Med, BI, and Drug Test transferred over to this side. I actually got the call from BP last week and declined their offer for this job so I could stay in Miami. It's good though, all I have left is the VBT, hopefully they schedule that soon.

I'm in the same boat as you, as I'm doing the VBT in a couple of weeks and then hopefully I'll be off to TSU before the end of the year. When did you get your med/fit/BI done? Looking at when you got your TO, you shouldn't have to do the refreshes in a few months, but if you did, that would be :(

[2g2gn]

Since I am meeting my investigator tomorrow. Is there a certain dres code I should follow? Keep in mind he will be coming over my house.

I was wearing a pair of jeans and long sleeve shirt(tacked out). I don't think he really paid attention on my attire and this guy was a retired NCIS. The interview was like a casual talk and lasted three hours. I have water and coffee ready which he really appreciated. Just make sure all pertinent documents related to your application are available and be tactful.

[2g2gn]

got a question, so im filling out all my pre employment forms and im confused as to whether or not i am supposed to sign where it says "appointee's signature" on the OF-306 Declaration for Federal Emploment form?

I only signed where it says "Applicant Signature".

[JRizEJ6]

I only signed where it says "Applicant Signature".
ok thats what i signed too. and another question. on the checklist for all the pre employment forms it says "you must complete a Resume; OF-612, or SF-171". does the OF-612 count as the resume or do i send in a separate resume of my own?

[2g2gn]

ok thats what i signed too. and another question. on the checklist for all the pre employment forms it says "you must complete a Resume; OF-612, or SF-171". does the OF-612 count as the resume or do i send in a separate resume of my own?

I did not submit a separate resume but I used a continuation sheet(blank copier paper) in answering block 9 of section B & C of OF-612.

[sap123]

ok thats what i signed too. and another question. on the checklist for all the pre employment forms it says "you must complete a Resume; OF-612, or SF-171". does the OF-612 count as the resume or do i send in a separate resume of my own?

A BPA recruiter told me that you could attach one if you wanted to, you would just have to mark it appropriately as a continuation. I don't think attaching your own resume is mandatory.

[s0lid snake]

For those that are just scheduled for their VBT (just like me), does that mean we won't get to FLETC until next year?

[kc12]

For those that are just scheduled for their VBT (just like me), does that mean we won't get to FLETC until next year?

Not necessarily. One guy I work with received his TO in July and was on the job the beginning of November.

[audi0xpl0de]

For those that are just scheduled for their VBT (just like me), does that mean we won't get to FLETC until next year?

All depends on how fast you clear and the number of openings/slots at your location.

[barnaj]

got a question, so im filling out all my pre employment forms and im confused as to whether or not i am supposed to sign where it says "appointee's signature" on the OF-306 Declaration for Federal Emploment form?

Yeah you just sign wherever applicant is listed. Appointee is the agency's representative.

[sap123]

For those that are just scheduled for their VBT (just like me), does that mean we won't get to FLETC until next year?

It also depends on the speed at which your BI gets done and your medical gets cleared and such. I don't want to sound like a pessimist or anything, but let me put it this way: All I have left for pre-employment is the VBT (which I have scheduled for mid Nov.) and I'd be super lucky to be at FLETC by the end of the year. There's a small chance I'll be at pre-academy or something, but still. My logic is that after the VBT it has to get graded, which could take a couple of weeks, and if I pass, it means my file going to TSU probably in early/mid december. Then after that, hopefully there's a slot for me somewhere. This is just me assuming everything goes real peachy and quick. Which is why I don't see myself EODing until next year.

[irishlad2nv]

There are no more Basic Classes starting till after Jan.09.

[sap123]

There are no more Basic Classes starting till after Jan.09.

EDIT: WHOA. Totally misread your post. Nevermind.

[irishlad2nv]

EDIT: WHOA. Totally misread your post. Nevermind.

FLETC tends to not start any Basic classes till after Jan. 09. If you have not gone as of today, Oct 24, most likely anorther class will not start until Jan. But there may be a few for CBP since they are pushing for new hires. Other agencies, not sure.

[sap123]

FLETC tends to not start any Basic classes till after Jan. 09. If you have not gone as of today, Oct 24, most likely anorther class will not start until Jan.

Yea that makes sense to me. Sorry, I misread your post as "There will be no classes after Jan. 09" And I almost had a stroke :o

[freeagent305]

FLETC tends to not start any Basic classes till after Jan. 09. If you have not gone as of today, Oct 24, most likely anorther class will not start until Jan. But there may be a few for CBP since they are pushing for new hires. Other agencies, not sure.

I start on the 28th so maybe theres hope

[irishlad2nv]

If you have your EOD, then most likely you will be going before the end of the year, but be-aware that there are a few holidays coming up. Either they will have you burn AL before of after the holiday or you get stuck at FLETC doing...well...you are stuck there.

[freeagent305]

If you have your EOD, then most likely you will be going before the end of the year, but be-aware that there are a few holidays coming up. Either they will have you burn AL before of after the holiday or you get stuck at FLETC doing...well...you are stuck there.

never heard of that..most likely he (US Pres) gives u the day before or after on him. Either way it still sucks because ur still in FLETC.

I was in Fletc in 01 and thats what Bush did.

[sap123]

never heard of that..most likely he (US Pres) gives u the day before or after on him. Either way it still sucks because ur still in FLETC.

I was in Fletc in 01 and thats what Bush did.

From what I can gather it's only happened so many times, and not every year. To be really honest, I could care less if I'm at FLETC on a holiday. I've been ready to go for months now, and if it means me spending a holiday around a dorm room or what not, I can deal. It makes it easier when I don't have a wife and kids though, to be fair.

[freeagent305]

From what I can gather it's only happened so many times, and not every year. To be really honest, I could care less if I'm at FLETC on a holiday. I've been ready to go for months now, and if it means me spending a holiday around a dorm room or what not, I can deal. It makes it easier when I don't have a wife and kids though, to be fair.

true...man the way things are with the economy, i dont care if I have to camp outside and hunt for food while am @ FLETC..

[DaBonk112]

CASS hotline states that my drug test has been scheduled. Do they usually mail you a letter or call?

[nasapso234]

Got the call yesterday! I start Nov 10th in SFO. Then Dec. 9th I leave for FLETC. Anyone else start then? Let me know! And thanks for all the help on here!

[sap123]

true...man the way things are with the economy, i dont care if I have to camp outside and hunt for food while am @ FLETC..

Seriously. Especially with the way the economy is going and the way the presidential candidates are talking about trying to shape up the federal budget, I hope that it doesn't mean moving money out of the ether that is for DHS. The chances of that happening are slim to none, but I'm not looking to find out the hard way. I just wanna get hired.

Got the call yesterday! I start Nov 10th in SFO. Then Dec. 9th I leave for FLETC. Anyone else start then? Let me know! And thanks for all the help on here!

Congratulations! I'll be at SFO on the 13th for the VBT, so maybe we will unknowingly pass each other. Good luck at FLETC!

[JRizEJ6]

do they schedule your vbt, physical, medical, and all that stuff AFTER you send in all your pre employment forms?

[MAVERIK]

In Response to Sap123
This is an interesting link, just want to hear some comments.

www.nelsondems.org/obamavmccain/homelandsecurity.doc

[audi0xpl0de]

do they schedule your vbt, physical, medical, and all that stuff AFTER you send in all your pre employment forms?

This is usually the case because they want to make sure you are still interested in the position before they waste time scheduling you.

[sap123]

In Response to Sap123
This is an interesting link, just want to hear some comments.

www.nelsondems.org/obamavmccain/homelandsecurity.doc

I think I'd just like to point out that bringing in a side of politics to this thread is kind of a bad idea. I didn't mean to post what I said to have it degenerate into a "which candidate will be better for us" kind of discussion (and I know you meant no ill intentions, I don't mean this directed at you specifically), but I think it would be an interesting discussion if someone were to start a "which candidate is best for our chances" type of thread. So if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to move any discussion like this to PMs. Deal?

[Scorp58]

I have my medical and fitness tests scheduled for next week. How long are these tests? Do I need to take the day off of work or can it be done in an hour or so?

[MAVERIK]

I think I'd just like to point out that bringing in a side of politics to this thread is kind of a bad idea. I didn't mean to post what I said to have it degenerate into a "which candidate will be better for us" kind of discussion (and I know you meant no ill intentions, I don't mean this directed at you specifically), but I think it would be an interesting discussion if someone were to start a "which candidate is best for our chances" type of thread. So if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to move any discussion like this to PMs. Deal?

Sap123:

By no means am I trying to start a political debate between candidates. This is just some food for thought.

As this is a forum for current and future Homeland Security officers I believe this election can directly affect us in the future. Having facts on candidate policies would be helpful to make an informative decision.

[nasapso234]

Does any one know where I can find a list of everything they teach in FLETC? I am trying to figure out if they do EVOC?

[barnaj]

Does any one know where I can find a list of everything they teach in FLETC? I am trying to figure out if they do EVOC?

Taken from the CASS FAQ's:

For more information on the training, please visit the web site at http://www.fletc.gov/cotp.pdf

[barnaj]

I have my medical and fitness tests scheduled for next week. How long are these tests? Do I need to take the day off of work or can it be done in an hour or so?

If you do all 3 (med, phys, drug) plan on a good 3+ hrs.

[wmcgalrd]

I have my medical and fitness tests scheduled for next week. How long are these tests? Do I need to take the day off of work or can it be done in an hour or so?

Mine took about an hour and it was in Stafford, TX. Where is yours scheduled at?

I didn't take off work but was able to schedule mine for 17:30 and they were flexible about when to show up.

[barnaj]

Mine took about an hour and it was in Stafford, TX. Where is yours scheduled at?

I didn't take off work but was able to schedule mine for 17:30 and they were flexible about when to show up.

You must of had the fastest one ever! Did you do the hearing, eye test, drug test, EKG, everything?

[nordy racer]

i just ran my credit report for a local Law Enforcement Department and noticed that Customs pulled on Oct 22 :).. no call from a BI or for my drug test.. i do have the VBT next week..

[barnaj]

i just ran my credit report for a local Law Enforcement Department and noticed that Customs pulled on Oct 22 :).. no call from a BI or for my drug test.. i do have the VBT next week..

Yeah i looked at my report the other day and noticed they pulled mine on 9-17-08. An investigator called me yesterday asking for another reference. Thats the first contact ive had.

[wmcgalrd]

You must of had the fastest one ever! Did you do the hearing, eye test, drug test, EKG, everything?

No drug test, but everything else. The lady was awesome, she went from one thing to the next like a well oiled machine. It was funny because I stepped out of the hearing box and into a hallway were I thought we were going to another room and she said OK stop here and look down the hallway I looked and there was the eye chart. It was just one after another. The whole time I was there I never saw another patient. Maybe all they do is pre-employment test for the government, I don't know...

[sap123]

Man you guys are lucky. It took me 2.5 hours to get my fitness test done. After the first hour they hooked me up to check bp as well as the EKG. Then I sat for another hour to call me back in to do the test. Then I waited another 25 minutes for them to say "okay you're done!"

...

MAVERIK: I don't disagree that this forum is a great place to do that. I contend this is the wrong thread to do that. I say you start one up!

[barnaj]

Man you guys are lucky. It took me 2.5 hours to get my fitness test done. After the first hour they hooked me up to check bp as well as the EKG. Then I sat for another hour to call me back in to do the test. Then I waited another 25 minutes for them to say "okay you're done!"

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MAVERIK: I don't disagree that this forum is a great place to do that. I contend this is the wrong thread to do that. I say you start one up!

Longest part for me was getting those 5 dozen suction cups to stay in place during the EKG!

P.S. I hate the step test, i'd rather run or something. Sucking wind and burning legs to the tune of porno music does not make for a pleasant morning!

[sap123]

Longest part for me was getting those 5 dozen suction cups to stay in place during the EKG!

P.S. I hate the step test, i'd rather run or something. Sucking wind and burning legs to the tune of porno music does not make for a pleasant morning!

HAHA. That's a good way of putting it. "porn music."

Funny story actually: my EKG was held up because I have hair on my chest. So you can imagine how red I got when the pretty girl said "okay take off your shirt we have to hook you up to an EKG" and I was like "really? ...I wish I knew that before showing up." So now she has to shave parts of my chest. She then says "yea well girls like a shaven chest" to which I said "If you tell me what else girls like I'll have that fixed before I'm outta here and have a better chance of getting a cup of coffee with you."



At least she laughed.

[barnaj]

HAHA. That's a good way of putting it. "porn music."

Funny story actually: my EKG was held up because I have hair on my chest. So you can imagine how red I got when the pretty girl said "okay take off your shirt we have to hook you up to an EKG" and I was like "really? ...I wish I knew that before showing up." So now she has to shave parts of my chest. She then says "yea well girls like a shaven chest" to which I said "If you tell me what else girls like I'll have that fixed before I'm outta here and have a better chance of getting a cup of coffee with you."



At least she laughed.

Yeah well im the opposite. The things werent sticking and i said "maybe they'd stick better if i had a hairy chest." And she wasn't pretty...