Ive been banned!

[Garbage Man]

Thats right lil' ol me just got banned from law enforcmentforums.com. The administrator has just taken out the garbage! It all started when the site God posted that he is the WWF's biggest fan I ask if he was twelve and it went down hill from there. ( I think it was a valid question. I mean really how can we be sure that anybody on any site is really who they say they are. I could be a female midget cosmotoligist for all any of you know) He (?) kept sending me hate PM's expecting an apology and I refused. In fact I got even more insulting. Finnaly he tried to intimidate me by pointing out that as adminsitrator he knew my true name and agency. ( I suppose he thinks he can beef me). Lastly he told me that I was arrogant and closed minded and sugested that he hoped I wasnt really a cop. That told me he wasnt a real cop cuz all real cops know that being arrogant and closed minded is an essential skill.

So here it is my opinion of the WWF last and finnaly. The WWF is a message board for life without class or dignity. It values volume over correctness violence over truth. It is a drama play that speaks solely to the frustrated high school football jock that says "your right its not fair that after school you didnt get your way everytime you beat up someone you disagreed with."


As for the forum itself, some good people over there, some of them were the better posters here. Just remember if you go there: wrestling is not fake! just keep telling yourself that over and over or you will be banned like me.

I guess that site just wasnt G-rated

[BrickCop]

Psssssssssst...... the above post doesn't exactly make you look like a rocket scientist either.

[Garbage Man]

Psssssssssst...... the above post doesn't exactly make you look like a rocket scientist either.

Fair enough. Does anyone else agree with Brickcops? If your referring to my spelling, my new home computer does not have Office on it yet and I cant get get the spell check feature to work here. I am certainly no computer scientist. Dictation and spell check has, I admit, ruined my spelling ability.

[deputy x 2]

Fair enough. Does anyone else agree with Brickcops? If your referring to my spelling, my new home computer does not have Office on it yet and I cant get get the spell check feature to work here. I am certainly no computer scientist. Dictation and spell check has, I admit, ruined my spelling ability.

Yeppers! Blame the spelling on your home computer. You at least have to make an effort to try and spell the word. I believe my dog can spell better than you...she definately knows what C-O-O-K-I-E means! :eek: :eek:

I would hate to read a crime report.

[PPDMO373]

That's their MO over there. If you aren't in their click then they won't like you at all and run you.

I am sure a lot of the newbies that saw their stupid article in APB will soon figure that out.

[Garbage Man]

That's their MO over there. If you aren't in their click then they won't like you at all and run you.

I am sure a lot of the newbies that saw their stupid article in APB will soon figure that out.

Thank you for responding on point rather than nitpicking my spelling. I have never seen that be so important before. (Things that make you go hmmm. hidden agenda maybe? cant attack the topic so you nitpick the spelling.) As for those who have spelling dogs and suggest my lack of spelling ability must somehow make my reports poor quality they must have no idea what I meant when I said I mostly dictate. What sort of cop has never heard of report dictation?

[Frank Booth]

I've been a policeman for over 20 years and haven't heard of report dictation.....We used to just write down what happened on paper forms and now pretty much write what happened on a computer.

[Garbage Man]

I've been a policeman for over 20 years and haven't heard of report dictation.....We used to just write down what happened on paper forms and now pretty much write what happened on a computer.

You have never HEARD of report dictation? I know that many agencies do not have it, some very large and otherwise modern agencies do not have it, I undertsand that, but surely you must have heard of it. If you say you havent then I believe you Frank but I confess I am surprised.

In either event you do use computers and therfore spell check. My real question is why the emphasis on my spelling errors? Do you think that's being petty?

[Twelve Volt Man]

Yeppers! Blame the spelling on your home computer. You at least have to make an effort to try and spell the word. I believe my dog can spell better than you...she definately knows what C-O-O-K-I-E means! :eek: :eek:

I would hate to read a crime report.

Perhaps you meant definitely?

[Garbage Man]

Perhaps you meant definitely?

Bravo!

See where this leads?

[PPDMO373]

I've been a policeman for over 20 years and haven't heard of report dictation.....We used to just write down what happened on paper forms and now pretty much write what happened on a computer.


The City of Grandview Missouri PD uses diction machines....I know that for a fact.....so I am sure they are not the only ones out there that do it.

It one time, The Honolulu PD used them.....but that's been 12-13 years since I played with them when I was Military....

[L-1]

Fair enough. Does anyone else agree with Brickcops?

Sort of. I don't care about the spelling or grammar (I understood what your were talking about). However, if I understand your post correctly:

1. Your got into a ****ing contest with the administrator of another forum regarding differing views over something as minor as the WWF.

2. During this exchange you repeatedly insulted him.

3. You refused his request for an apology, so

4. He kicked you off the forum, and

5. Now you want to drag us into all this?????

Sorry dude, but like Brickcop said, it doesn't exactly make you look like a rocket scientist.

[deputy x 2]

What sort of cop has never heard of report dictation?

A beat cop!

And 12 volt, you are correct I did spell it incorrectly.

It just amazes me how the basic requirement for LE is a GED and some appear to have problems spelling that! Pretty damn pathetic!

To address the thread, you make any forum what you want. You either enjoy it or you move on. It's like leaving a dept for whatever the reasons, don't bad mouth it because you didn't get your way!

End of discussion...you can turn off your tape recorder. :eek: :eek:

[PPDMO373]

Sort of. I don't care about the spelling or grammar (I understood what your were talking about). However, if I understand your post correctly:

1. Your got into a ****ing contest with the administrator of another forum regarding differing views over something as minor as the WWF.

2. During this exchange you repeatedly insulted him.

3. You refused his request for an apology, so

4. He kicked you off the forum, and

5. Now you want to drag us into all this?????

Sorry dude, but like Brickcop said, it doesn't exactly make you look like a rocket scientist.

But of course, that's par for the course over there......you don't agree with them, a core group will attack, bait, send nasty PMs/Emails/IMs then threaten to call your PD or actually do it (ask irishlad2nv because they did it to him :rolleyes: ) then sit around make fun of you till the get tired and go off and stalk the next victim of their childish games. :rolleyes:

[VSPClem]

so noww yu sey speling is importint too polyce werk?

What next, you have to be in shape? I call shenanigans.

[BrickCop]

Sort of. I don't care about the spelling or grammar (I understood what your were talking about). However, if I understand your post correctly:

1. Your got into a ****ing contest with the administrator of another forum regarding differing views over something as minor as the WWF.

2. During this exchange you repeatedly insulted him.

3. You refused his request for an apology, so

4. He kicked you off the forum, and

5. Now you want to drag us into all this?????

Sorry dude, but like Brickcop said, it doesn't exactly make you look like a rocket scientist.

I could care less about your spelling, actually L-1 echoed the point I was trying to make, apologies for not being more concise. ;)

[Garbage Man]

Sort of. I don't care about the spelling or grammar (I understood what your were talking about). However, if I understand your post correctly:

1. Your got into a ****ing contest with the administrator of another forum regarding differing views over something as minor as the WWF.

Its not minor. The WWF is a cancer. It is one of the few things in life I despise passionatly. I would end a friendship over finding out that someone I know is a fan.

2. During this exchange you repeatedly insulted him.

Actually I made myself look worse in the interst of fairness. i did insult the WWF. I asked if he was 12 on the post. The rest were PM's back and forth.

3. You refused his request for an apology, so

Yep, not sorry so I didnt lie.

4. He kicked you off the forum, and
yep

5. Now you want to drag us into all this?????

Nope. I just know that several folks who post there, post here, and want them to know why I am not there. responding is your option. Actually I am not venting, I know you cant see me through the screen but I actually think this whole thing is very funny. I thought people would find this incident funny. Sorry if my humor isnt up to the immortal mr. J. Marx.

The only irrating thing was the Pm'ed attempt to intimidate me by knowing my name and agency. I dont know about the site folks here but I think thats a little bit over the line dont you?

Sorry dude, but like Brickcop said, it doesn't exactly make you look like a rocket scientist.

I have never claimed to be a rocket scientist, just a cop. In fact I have never claimed to be all that intelligent, Ive got just enough smarts to get it done. Sorry if I am Forrest Gump compared to yourselves.

Let me just clarify. I am not complaining I am bragging. I think its funny. I knew I was gonna get kicked off. I knew it wanst just another poster I was insulting it was a founder. When he threatened to kick me off i said "please do. You need me more than I need you."

If I have a concern it will be if they try some petty revenge with my department which another poster on this thread said they have done. If they try then Ill stop finding this fun and I promise so will they. And if they do I will post on this site again as a warning and let the insults (whatever the true motivations behind them are) fly. Because people need to know when someone takes a simple forum too damn seriously.

[nobody33]

I've been a policeman for over 20 years and haven't heard of report dictation.....We used to just write down what happened on paper forms and now pretty much write what happened on a computer.


Must be a west coast thing. It's fairly popular out here, type the face sheet, tape the full report, slip it in an envelope and it's done. The agency I use to dispatch for that used that as their primary system had officers taking between 4-7 reports a 10 hour shift, in addition to the regular resolvable calls.

One of the big jokes there was to do the "voices" of the people you were quoting while dictating- "so my baba dadda axed me to git out."-- that kinda stuff. The records clerks thought it was pretty funny.

[TommyF]

GarbageMan, thanks for the info I just read the article in APB. I thought about checking out the site but I may take a pass now from the comments I have read on here. Oh and I really could give a damn about how your spelling is. :cool:

[PPDMO373]

The only irrating thing was the Pm'ed attempt to intimidate me by knowing my name and agency. I dont know about the site folks here but I think thats a little bit over the line dont you?


If I have a concern it will be if they try some petty revenge with my department which another poster on this thread said they have done. If they try then Ill stop finding this fun and I promise so will they. And if they do I will post on this site again as a warning and let the insults (whatever the true motivations behind them are) fly. Because people need to know when someone takes a simple forum too damn seriously.

Like I said....ask Irishlad. They called his PD because they didn't like what he was saying over there. Notice how he's not around here much.

These are the same folks that talk about "Brotherhood." Give me a break. You screw a Brother LEO over petty BS on the internet, then you need to find a life.

Obvisouly the owner from North Carolina doesn't have a life other than drinking way too much and watching that crap on TV. :rolleyes:

[PPDMO373]

GarbageMan, thanks for the info I just read the article in APB. I thought about checking out the site but I may take a pass now from the comments I have read on here. Oh and I really could give a damn about how your spelling is. :cool:

Obvisouly, APB didn't do very good research on that place. The people they quote in the article are Mods there. :rolleyes:

Plus, they act like it such a special site because they have a FAM over there. The FAM in question visits a bunch of sites, including here.

[Garbage Man]

GarbageMan, thanks for the info I just read the article in APB. I thought about checking out the site but I may take a pass now from the comments I have read on here. Oh and I really could give a damn about how your spelling is. :cool:


Your welcome and thank you. You know I would like to be big here and say aww shucks go check it out, cuz I really am not trying to trash their site. (no, really I dont care) but I gotta admitt the PM where the moderator used mine and my agencies name was a little chilling. Even so I would say "go for it," but then to read the messages that they have actually gone after peoples jobs for defying them (which does not in any way come from me and I have no idea if thats true or not) well, I gotta admit that post kinda took the fun out of this for me. If someone tried to go after my badge cuz they disagreed with my opinion about something, well it'd get ugly thats all I am going to say right now cuz I am sure it wont happen. Even a WWF fan has got to have better things to do then declare war on a total stranger. After all they only think they know who I am, I know exactly who they are (Thanks APB) Not that there is anything they could do. I never post at work (which is why I post so infrequently) so my job would just laugh. Especially if they knew my agencies connection to APB (not gonna elaborate just look at their website some time) But the mere act of trying would result in a serious "Smack down" to use their lame terms. (obviously I am thinking that many on this site have a connection to the founders and I hope they are reading this)

[Garbage Man]

Obvisouly, APB didn't do very good research on that place. The people they quote in the article are Mods there. :rolleyes:

Plus, they act like it such a special site because they have a FAM over there. The FAM in question visits a bunch of sites, including here.


Ok just want to point out that you hate these dudes way more than me. But then again maybe you have better reason. Could you perhaps elaborate on your issues with them? And what exactly did they do to Irishlad?

I looked up "irishlad" and he has only two posts the last being in 2000 and in it he said he wasnt a cop. Have you got the name right? Believe me I am not trying to defend LEF but everyone deserves to be free from false accusations.

P.S. I just read the article and I will have to admitt I really had to laugh at the part about other sites being "over moderated" and "having a dictator like atmosphere."

[PPDMO373]

Ok just want to point out that you hate these dudes way more than me. But then again maybe you have better reason. Could you perhaps elaborate on your issues with them? And what exactly did they do to Irishlad?

I looked up "irishlad" and he has only two posts the last being in 2000 and in it he said he wasnt a cop. Have you got the name right? Believe me I am not trying to defend LEF but everyone deserves to be free from false accusations.

P.S. I just read the article and I will have to admitt I really had to laugh at the part about other sites being "over moderated" and "having a dictator like atmosphere."

1. Rather not get into it.....but myself and several others are not very happy with them or their tactics and I have written APB to point out errors in the article.

2. It's Irishlad2nv. He irked off folks over there and they called his PD to complain about him. If you look at his post count, you can see that he went from March to May before he started to post again and it's been very sparingly and not arguementive like he normally is. He may not confirm it but I have inside knowledge that they did in fact call his PD to complain about him. Not sure what happened to him, but one could guess because of his departure from here then his quite return he got in trouble.

3. The "over moderated" site is the one that they got kicked off of because they were acting like tools and got banned. They seem to like the "locker room" atomosphere where as the other site is a lot more professional.

[mavriktu]

Thanks for the warning Gman,I was just about to register with them.I know what it is like to be banned from a sight for ridiculous b.s..I was banned from one about 6 or 7 weeks after Katrina for b****ing about red cross and FEMA, in there lack of response and help.Since than ,I am sure everyone has seen that my thoughts were correct. ;) Well I got another isp and went to that sight a while back out of curiosity and looked up my old post,they had mangled it and made it look like it had been written by a drunken monkey.I also noticed that the sight is all but dead getting 1 or 2 posts a week... :D

[Frank Booth]

In either event you do use computers and therfore spell check. My real question is why the emphasis on my spelling errors? Do you think that's being petty?

Well....since you asked....It's not just the spelling, although spelling is important and different than just a typo. I found it hard to follow your post. I had to read it a few times even though I was fairly sober at the time.

[Harry Callahan]

I agree with Brick. You have no one to blame but yourself for being banned. My advice is the cease the personal attacks & behave like the professional you allegedly are. Your demeanor makes it appear they were justified in banning you.
I also know for a fact they DO NOT beef posters to their department for bad behavior on the boards. The claim they do is false.

[Garbage Man]

I agree with Brick. You have no one to blame but yourself for being banned. My advice is the cease the personal attacks & behave like the professional you allegedly are. Your demeanor makes it appear they were justified in banning you.
I also know for a fact they DO NOT beef posters to their department for bad behavior on the boards. The claim they do is false.

And how do you know that '"for a fact." Would you be one of the group of friends that started it? Or maybe one of the founders in disguise?

Personally I would not comment either way until I had someone claim that they did that to them. I PM'ed the poster in question and he told me they did try to contact his employer and when they were laughed at, they went after his IP address and he "had to report them." Now Ill admitt I am a computer idiot so I had to send a message back asking what they did with his IP address and who exactly one would report that to. That was yesterday I havent heard back yet. Perhaps someone here can advise what mayhem a group of immature cops can do with an IP address. What would Hulk Hogan do?

I have never alleged to be a professional, a rocket scientist a dog or any of the other occupations it has been brought to my attention that I am falling short of. I am a cop. A blue collor working class slob pushing a hack every day assisting stupid people in the process of ruining their lives. yet dispite my limitations I manage to survive the 92 riots and over 18* years working for two fairly high crime cities receiving my share of awards along the way. I am nothing special, but I get by.

*7 years with a specialty PD in LB and 3 years as a specialty cop in my current city and 8 years as a regular type gunslinger.

[Harry Callahan]

It appears they made a good call banning you.

[Garbage Man]

It appears they made a good call banning you.
Tell your pals I said hi :)

[Entre Nous]

In the interest of fairness, I am entering this thread for a moment to post a reply which was written by Law Enforcement Forums:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Man
It all started when the site God posted that he is the WWF's biggest fan I ask if he was twelve and it went down hill from there.


No, it all started when you out of the blue attacked me for an original thread that I started that was extremely old. Many other members have posted pro-wrestling statements, however you singled me out. I immediately determined that you might have been put up to this by PPDMO373/Bearcat06. I mean, how ridiculous is it for you to be arguing with another LEO over the internet about wrestling. Wrestling is not even real. What's next, are you going to argue with us over Santa Clause, or the Easter Bunny? Since you are lying about our conversation, I feel it only fair to post your original post to me in that thread, and our entire private message conversation:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Man
Is this site being run by a twelve year old? Wrestling is an insult to America. every country on Earth laughs at us thinking we are stupid enough to be watching this nonesence. It infuriated me that Jesse Ventura was elected Governor. the penalty for being a wrestler must be that for the rest of your life no one EVER listens to any ideas you have or wants to know your opinion. Its a fair balance they make a lot of money so they wont starve they just have to know that for the rest of their lives they will be irrelevent.

As for whether or not its fake the answer is very simple. Have you ever left your parents basement? If so have you ever seen anyone act that way? No? That because no one ever does!

If you really dont see enough fights in your job at least watch the UFC.


Now, for my private message reply:

Quote:
Is this site being run by a twelve year old?

No, I am 27, I have a college degree, spent 6 years in the Army as a chemical equipment repairer, I've been to different countries, lived in several different states, and have been an LEO for 6 years. I was tested as having a near genius IQ. So to answer your question, no, I am not a 12 year old, nor do I appreciate assinine statements like that.

Quote:
Wrestling is an insult to America.



No it isn't. Wrestling is entertainment. If you don't like it, don't watch.

Quote:
Have you ever left your parents basement?


Yes, I am a homeowner, and again do not appreciate your cheapshot, as I have done nothing to you.

Quote:
If you really dont see enough fights in your job at least watch the UFC.


When you're 6'6, and 288 pounds, and in shape, some people aren't as quick to mess with you as others, but I have had my fair share of fights, and have been shot at. I also enjoy UFC, which you'd know if you bothered asking me instead of being a jackass.

This was his reply:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Man
I suppose your reply is obligatory given the extent that I was rude to you, but you must know that I intended to offend you, therefore I am not at all bothered by your reply. If you review my posts both on this site and Officer.com you will see that I have never written an insulting post to anyone ever before. That might tell you how strongly I feel about the WWF. I take back nothing. If your bio is true then you are very unique amongst the masses that populate the stands of this insult to America. I hate everything this farce is including what it tells the world about us. It is not something I just dont have to watch. I am branded by it the same as any fan. It was produced by my country and like gangs, crack, methamphetamine and lenient sentences for child molesters it is one more thing to be embarrased over. I will never apologize for despising this discrace or for insulting anyone who admitts to being a fan.


My reply:

Quote:
Originally Posted by LawEnforcementForums
Mr. *********,

You sound like a real close minded, arrogant person. On a personal note, I can only hope you don't patrol the streets of ****** ***** like it appears you might. But, more importantly, your post violated this site's terms of service. If you want to stay on this site, you won't pull something like that again. If you were so smart, you would have opened your own police site, instead of criticizing those who own them. And your hateful obessession with wrestling is strange to say the least. Did Hulk Hogan ignore high fiving you on his way to the ring one dark and stormy night? Either way, you comparing wrestling and drugs is ridiculous. Please grow up.


His reply:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Man
which rule did I violate exactly? Having an opinion that contradicts the modorators? Your site needs me far more than I need it. I would be proud of being banned from here for insulting a fan of wrestling. Perhaps I shall write a letter to the APB about your site after all. Perhaps they would like to know that people on this site will be accused of not being a good cop by the moderators of they dont like the WWF.

And since your probably gonna ban me after this I will attempt one last time to tell you why the WWF is something which should be loudly scorned. The value system of the WWF is that all you have to be is stronger and more violent to be better than somebody else. It is the last tantrum of the football jock who found out that life requires decency and intellect to be truly succesfull. I hate anything that advocates the idea that might alone makes right.

Now this is your site you have the might to ban me, but it will not make you right or make the WWF any less devoid of any intellectual property. (FYI either way, I am not really gonna write any letter to the APB, its not worth my time)




Now, onto the rest of Garbage Man's Officer.com post:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Man
I mean really how can we be sure that anybody on any site is really who they say they are. I could be a female midget cosmotoligist for all any of you know


We can be sure because we have the best LEO verification system of any police site on the inernet. Their are no "Star's" here, nor private investigator's allowed as Verified LEO's, unlike other police forums. We verified your police employment, along with every other Verified LEO on our site. When you're talking to the Verified LEO's on our site, you know you aren't talking to a female, midget cosmotologist.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Man
He (?) kept sending me hate PM's expecting an apology and I refused. In fact I got even more insulting. Finnaly he tried to intimidate me by pointing out that as adminsitrator he knew my true name and agency. ( I suppose he thinks he can beef me). Lastly he told me that I was arrogant and closed minded and sugested that he hoped I wasnt really a cop. That told me he wasnt a real cop cuz all real cops know that being arrogant and closed minded is an essential skill.

You have clearly been caught in a lie. I never sent you any hate PM's, nor did I demand an apology. I agree, you did get more insulting. I never tried to intimidate you by pointing out that I knew your name and agency. I simply replied to you by your name, and as a personal side note, said I hoped you didn't patrol the streets like it appears you might. I did tell you that you were arrogant and close minded, but I never said I hoped you weren't a real cop....that makes no sense....we verified your police employment....I know you're a real cop. I also never stated that it is an essential skill of real cops to be arrogant and close minded.

[Entre Nous]

This is a continuation of the reply written by Law Enforcement Forums:

Now onto PPDMO373, also known on police internet sites as Bearcat06:

Quote:
Originally Posted by PPDMO373
That's their MO over there. If you aren't in their clicks then they won't like you at all and run you.



Quote:
Originally Posted by PPDMO373
I am sure a lot of the newbies that saw their stupid article in APB will soon figure that out.


I think you know the only clique in the world of police sites is on the very site you do verification work for. If not for you being in there clique, you would have been banned a long time ago. I am glad you're going to let the newbies find out for themselves. Though if you were really interested in that, you wouldn't be attacking me, or LEF on another police site, and then telling them that they'll figure it out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PPDMO373
But of course, that's par for the course over there......you don't agree with them, a core group will attack, bait, send nasty PMs/Emails/IMs then threaten to call your PD or actually do it (ask irishlad2nv because they did it to him ) then sit around make fun of you till the get tired and go off and stalk the next victim of their childish games.



Nothing could be further from the truth. We don't bait and attack whatsoever. You have become extremely bitter since you were going to be banned/asked to have your account deleted from LEF. You are also very obviously jealous of our success. We have a good thing going, and we know it. We are not going to let people like you ruin it. You can continue talking negatively about us all you want on these different police sites, and some of these police sites (like ***************) obviously condone it, but the fact is, people see for themselves what our site is all about, and our new Verified LEO members keep coming in, as you can see, in record numbers.

Quote:
Like I said....ask Irishlad. They called his PD because they didn't like what he was saying over there. Notice how he's not around here much.

These are the same folks that talk about "Brotherhood." Give me a break. You screw a Brother LEO over petty BS on the internet, then you need to find a life.

Obvisouly the owner from North Carolina doesn't have a life other than drinking way too much and watching that crap on TV.


Yes, please do ask Irishlad2nv about his situation. You will find out some very disturbing things. We did our own investigation into him. He signed up with several different usernames back to back, making posts that violated our site's terms of service. That is why he was banned. He had been banned previously, though only temporary, for refusing to cooperate in our LEO Verification process. He was even warned to stop signing up with different usernames via private message, he read the private message, but ignored our request. [Part of response edited out by Entre. PM her for further info.] Maybe you should ask him why he sent out e-mails to two different Verified LEO's employer's on our site, complaining about what they were posting? Again, PPDMO373/Bearcat06, you have no clue as to what the truth is, you're just going off of assumptions, and half-truths. Irishlad2nv is a nutcase and a compulsive liar. After we finished our investigation, we felt we had no choice but to lodge a complaint with his work ISP address, after he continued spamming our site from different government work computers (we even warned him). After we lodged a complaint, he apologized for everything he did.

We saved all of his private messages and e-mails with us (as we did with you, Tim ), so the proof is in the pudding. You are far to be the one to talk about screwing a brother LEO on the internet over a simple issue. Do you remember the badge bunny thread? Want me to continue? I am sorry that someone who drinks as much as alcohol as you say you do, is telling me I drink way too much. Why do you care anyway? Are you my mommy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PPDMO373
Obvisouly, APB didn't do very good research on that place. The people they quote in the article are Mods there.

Plus, they act like it such a special site because they have a FAM over there. The FAM in question visits a bunch of sites, including here.


Obviously you don't know what you're talking about, AGAIN. That article was submitted less than 2 months from when our site opened. Only Chris2001 was a Moderator at that point.

We never said we were a special site because we have a Federal Air Marshal. You sound like a bitter, whiny, gossipy, high school girl. Why do you care so much about us that you can't stop talking about us. At first, your obsession with us was laughable...now it's just plain weird.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PPDMO373
1. Rather not get into it.....but myself and several others are not very happy with them or their tactics and I have written APB to point out errors in the article.


Yes, PLEASE do get into it. If you want to let loose with the details of what happened, please do. As I stated, we knew you were a male drama queen, and therefore saved all of your interaction with us. We were willing to let a lot of things go, including when you made racial slurs towards Will's wife and children, because he is white, and his wife is black. But I can assure you, if you do tell them your issues, we will tell them the truth, in detail, and will hold nothing back.

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Originally Posted by PPDMO373
2. It's Irishlad2nv. He irked off folks over there and they called his PD to complain about him. If you look at his post count, you can see that he went from March to May before he started to post again and it's been very sparingly and not arguementive like he normally is. He may not confirm it but I have inside knowledge that they did in fact call his PD to complain about him. Not sure what happened to him, but one could guess because of his departure from here then his quite return he got in trouble.



I have addressed the Irishlad2nv situation already. AGAIN, PPDMO373/Bearcat06 does not have the facts, and is talking out of his butt. Then again, I wouldn't suspect Irishlad2nv to tell him the truth after what he's done, and I wouldn't expect for PPDMO373/Bearcat06 to tell the truth, since it's obvious he has serious issues. Unfortunately, every profession has people that don't belong, law enforcement included. At LEF, we've had a few bad apples that have made the site not so fun. Some of these people are Bearcat06, Garbage Man, and Irishlad2nv. Lucikly, none of them are a part of LEF anymore, nor will they ever be again.

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Originally Posted by PPDMO373
3. The "over moderated" site is the one that they got kicked off of because they were acting like tools and got banned. They seem to like the "locker room" atomosphere where as the other site is a lot more professional.


Again, you are making an assumption. No one ever said that the "over moderated" site is the one I was kicked off of. We were not acting like tools on that particular site. We were banned because we started our own police website, and they do not like "competition" over there. Also, you were about to be banned from LEF yourself for acting like a "tool." Would you like me to tell them about you telling badge bunnies information from the Verified LEO area in hopes of sleeping with them, amongst the other things?

It is obvious folks, with quick success, comes hard feelings, bitterness, and jealousy. It is obvious a few people don't like us. Oh well. I will not lose sleep over it, however, I felt it necessary to let the members of Officer.com know the truth. To the members of Officer.com who decided to not visit LEF, solely on the fact of what Garbage Man, or PPDMO373 has said, it's unfortunate you're going to take their word as the gospel, however, if all it took was them posting lies to stop you from registering, you probably made the right decision by not joining.
Thank you for your time.

[keith758]

I post over there under the same name I use here. I've never had any problems expressing myself or being condemned for doing so. I enjoy using and reading both sites, and will continue to do so. There is something to learn from the people that use each, though sometimes the perspectives may differ. As far as personal attacks on others using either board, the need to behave as professional ADULTS can't be stressed enough.l

[BrickCop]

Holy crap, this thread has more drama than a 'Desperate Housewives' episode. ;)

[Harry Callahan]

Holy crap, this thread has more drama than a 'Desperate Housewives' episode. ;)

Some people just have to create their own drama. Drama Queens usually get banned.

[PPDMO373]

Nothing could be further from the truth. We don't bait and attack whatsoever. You have become extremely bitter since you were going to be banned/asked to have your account deleted from LEF. You are also very obviously jealous of our success. We have a good thing going, and we know it. We are not going to let people like you ruin it. You can continue talking negatively about us all you want on these different police sites, and some of these police sites (like ***************) obviously condone it, but the fact is, people see for themselves what our site is all about, and our new Verified LEO members keep coming in, as you can see, in record numbers.

Uh.....yeah you do bait folks into fights. Heard you have a ban list in the Mod area....and want folks to ban them because they were friends of certain people and now are over at other websites....? Record numbers? You will run them off just like you ran off your sponsor.......when you get drunk and do stupid stuff like editing posts and calling folks trolls...


Yes, please do ask Irishlad2nv about his situation. You will find out some very disturbing things. We did our own investigation into him. He signed up with several different usernames back to back, making posts that violated our site's terms of service. That is why he was banned. He had been banned previously, though only temporary, for refusing to cooperate in our LEO Verification process. He was even warned to stop signing up with different usernames via private message, he read the private message, but ignored our request. Maybe you should ask him about spamming our site from his place of employment, while on duty? Maybe you should ask him about his pending criminal charges? Maybe you should ask him to tell you about the situation with his co-workers, and his former roomate? Maybe you should ask him why he sent out e-mails to two different Verified LEO's employer's on our site, complaining about what they were posting? Again, PPDMO373 you have no clue as to what the truth is, you're just going off of assumptions, and half-truths. Irishlad2nv is a nutcase and a compulsive liar. After we finished our investigation, we felt we had no choice but to lodge a complaint with his work ISP address, after he continued spamming our site from different government work computers (we even warned him). After we lodged a complaint, he apologized for everything he did. We saved all of his private messages and e-mails with us, so the proof is in the pudding. You are far to be the one to talk about screwing a brother LEO on the internet over a simple issue. Do you remember the badge bunny thread? Want me to continue? I am sorry that someone who drinks as much as alcohol as you say you do, is telling me I drink way too much. Why do you care anyway? Are you my mommy?

You guys BF'd Irishlad because you didn't like what he was saying plan and simple. He didn't agree with you guys....and that made you mad. You know it, I know it......

Plus, anyone with half a brain knows that PMs from VB Board sites can be doctored/edited/and made to look like someone typed them out.....so, posting those will just show some good editing skills.....and not a bit of proof what goes on over there.

Obviously you don't know what you're talking about, AGAIN. That article was submitted less than 2 months from when our site opened. Only Chris2001 was a Moderator at that point.

As I said.....He was still a Mod.....Having Mods vouch for a site is kinda strange....couldn't find anyone else do to it..? That shocks me with the group of minions you have running around over there..... :rolleyes:

Just wait till the meet you....and see what they find out.....


We never said we were a special site because we have a Federal Air Marshal. You sound like a bitter, whiny, gossipy, high school girl. Why do you care so much about us that you can't stop talking about us. At first, your obsession with us was laughable...now it's just plain weird.

No, your obsession with that site is weird. It's your life....and that's strange.


Yes, PLEASE do get into it. If you want to let loose with the details of what happened, please do. As I stated, we knew you were a male drama queen, and therefore saved all of your interaction with us. We were willing to let a lot of things go, including when you made racial slurs towards Will's wife and children, because he is white, and his wife is black. But I can assure you, if you do tell them your issues, we will tell them the truth, in detail, and will hold nothing back.

You are a idiot. I have no idea about what your talking about. How do I know anything about someone I have never met? I know a lot about you becuase you opened your mouth to the wrong people.....then acted like a fool around them......

Your scared that folks will learn the truth about you and how many times you have been written up and damn near fired for being an idiot on duty..? You scared that folks will learn of your "manhood" issues...? You scared that your Chief is going find out that you are being an idiot online again?


I have addressed the Irishlad2nv situation already. AGAIN, PPDMO373 does not have the facts, and is talking out of his butt. Then again, I wouldn't suspect Irishlad2nv to tell him the truth after what he's done, and I wouldn't expect for PPDMO373 to tell the truth, since it's obvious he has serious issues. Unfortunately, every profession has people that don't belong, law enforcement included. At LEF, we've had a few bad apples that have made the site not so fun. Some of these people are Bearcat06, Garbage Man, and Irishlad2nv. Lucikly, none of them are a part of LEF anymore, nor will they ever be again.

Who wants to be a part of a site that starts threads....then deletes them when the heat gets turned on or their PD finds out about you being stupid online again? Who wants to be part of a site that bullys folks.....harasses them....sends them threatening emails/PMs/IMs to make posts or be banned....or tells them to not spend so much time at other sites...

Notice how I never mention any sites I go to (and I go to about 10).....I don't care about folks go to hang out....I just want them to know that what is going on over at that place is not what it seems.


[B]Again, you are making an assumption. No one ever said that the "over moderated" site is the one I was kicked off of. We were not acting like tools on that particular site. We were banned because we started our own police website, and they do not like "competition" over there. Also, you were about to be banned from LEF yourself for acting like a "tool." Would you like me to tell them about you telling badge bunnies information from the Verified LEO area in hopes of sleeping with them, amongst the other things?

Yeah....you were kicked off for being a fool after being given multiple, multiple warnings from the Mods there. Your site wasn't even running yet when you got banned. Try again.

Last time I checked.....you were the only one wanting to sleep with someone from LEF....and you couldn't perform....nor had functioning equiptment to get the job done....and she tossed your sorry *** to the curb. Then you promptly started to harass/badger/threaten/ her with nasty hate filled PMs/IMs.

Oh...and Kimby.....standing in for Brad and letting him post crap through your screen name because he's not man enough to do so on his own....or is scared that his Chief will fire him....is comical. He called you a badge bunny over there as well as several others.....and then deleted the entire thread..... :rolleyes:

[Harry Callahan]

In an effort to cut some of the drama, the owner of the site GM made reference to asked me to pass on this message:

Yes, please do ask Irishlad2nv about his situation. You will find out some very disturbing things. We did our own investigation into him. He signed up with several different usernames back to back, making posts that violated our site's terms of service. That is why he was banned. He had been banned previously, though only temporary, for refusing to cooperate in our LEO Verification process. He was even warned to stop signing up with different usernames via private message, he read the private message, but ignored our request. Maybe you should ask him about spamming our site from his place of employment, while on duty? Maybe you should ask him about his pending criminal charges? Maybe you should ask him to tell you about the situation with his co-workers, and his former roomate? Maybe you should ask him why he sent out e-mails to two different Verified LEO's employer's on our site, complaining about what they were posting? Again, PPDMO373/Bearcat06, you have no clue as to what the truth is, you're just going off of assumptions, and half-truths. Irishlad2nv is a nutcase and a compulsive liar. After we finished our investigation, we felt we had no choice but to lodge a complaint with his work ISP address, after he continued spamming our site from different government work computers (we even warned him). After we lodged a complaint, he apologized for everything he did.

[Garbage Man]

In the interest of fairness, I am entering this thread for a moment to post a reply which was written by Law Enforcement Forums:

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Originally Posted by Garbage Man
It all started when the site God posted that he is the WWF's biggest fan I ask if he was twelve and it went down hill from there.


No, it all started when you out of the blue attacked me for an original thread that I started that was extremely old. Many other members have posted pro-wrestling statements, however you singled me out. I immediately determined that you might have been put up to this by PPDMO373/Bearcat06. I mean, how ridiculous is it for you to be arguing with another LEO over the internet about wrestling. Wrestling is not even real. What's next, are you going to argue with us over Santa Clause, or the Easter Bunny? Since you are lying about our conversation, I feel it only fair to post your original post to me in that thread, and our entire private message conversation:


I cant speak to the date of the original thread but it was top of the list when I replied. As for you knowledge that the WWF is fake I challenge you to reprint that message. It was a gushing love letter to the WWF and I also noted many "Wrestling is not fake" replies from you in big red lettering.

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Originally Posted by Garbage Man
Is this site being run by a twelve year old? Wrestling is an insult to America. every country on Earth laughs at us thinking we are stupid enough to be watching this nonesence. It infuriated me that Jesse Ventura was elected Governor. the penalty for being a wrestler must be that for the rest of your life no one EVER listens to any ideas you have or wants to know your opinion. Its a fair balance they make a lot of money so they wont starve they just have to know that for the rest of their lives they will be irrelevent.

As for whether or not its fake the answer is very simple. Have you ever left your parents basement? If so have you ever seen anyone act that way? No? That because no one ever does!

If you really dont see enough fights in your job at least watch the UFC.


Now, for my private message reply:

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Is this site being run by a twelve year old?

No, I am 27, I have a college degree, spent 6 years in the Army as a chemical equipment repairer, I've been to different countries, lived in several different states, and have been an LEO for 6 years. I was tested as having a near genius IQ. So to answer your question, no, I am not a 12 year old, nor do I appreciate assinine statements like that.

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Wrestling is an insult to America.



No it isn't. Wrestling is entertainment. If you don't like it, don't watch.

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Have you ever left your parents basement?


Yes, I am a homeowner, and again do not appreciate your cheapshot, as I have done nothing to you.

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If you really dont see enough fights in your job at least watch the UFC.


When you're 6'6, and 288 pounds, and in shape, some people aren't as quick to mess with you as others, but I have had my fair share of fights, and have been shot at. I also enjoy UFC, which you'd know if you bothered asking me instead of being a jackass.

This was his reply:

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Originally Posted by Garbage Man
I suppose your reply is obligatory given the extent that I was rude to you, but you must know that I intended to offend you, therefore I am not at all bothered by your reply. If you review my posts both on this site and Officer.com you will see that I have never written an insulting post to anyone ever before. That might tell you how strongly I feel about the WWF. I take back nothing. If your bio is true then you are very unique amongst the masses that populate the stands of this insult to America. I hate everything this farce is including what it tells the world about us. It is not something I just dont have to watch. I am branded by it the same as any fan. It was produced by my country and like gangs, crack, methamphetamine and lenient sentences for child molesters it is one more thing to be embarrased over. I will never apologize for despising this discrace or for insulting anyone who admitts to being a fan.


My reply:

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Originally Posted by LawEnforcementForums
Mr. *********,

You sound like a real close minded, arrogant person. On a personal note, I can only hope you don't patrol the streets of ****** ***** like it appears you might. But, more importantly, your post violated this site's terms of service. If you want to stay on this site, you won't pull something like that again. If you were so smart, you would have opened your own police site, instead of criticizing those who own them. And your hateful obessession with wrestling is strange to say the least. Did Hulk Hogan ignore high fiving you on his way to the ring one dark and stormy night? Either way, you comparing wrestling and drugs is ridiculous. Please grow up.


His reply:

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Originally Posted by Garbage Man
which rule did I violate exactly? Having an opinion that contradicts the modorators? Your site needs me far more than I need it. I would be proud of being banned from here for insulting a fan of wrestling. Perhaps I shall write a letter to the APB about your site after all. Perhaps they would like to know that people on this site will be accused of not being a good cop by the moderators of they dont like the WWF.

And since your probably gonna ban me after this I will attempt one last time to tell you why the WWF is something which should be loudly scorned. The value system of the WWF is that all you have to be is stronger and more violent to be better than somebody else. It is the last tantrum of the football jock who found out that life requires decency and intellect to be truly succesfull. I hate anything that advocates the idea that might alone makes right.

Now this is your site you have the might to ban me, but it will not make you right or make the WWF any less devoid of any intellectual property. (FYI either way, I am not really gonna write any letter to the APB, its not worth my time)




Now, onto the rest of Garbage Man's Officer.com post:

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Originally Posted by Garbage Man
I mean really how can we be sure that anybody on any site is really who they say they are. I could be a female midget cosmotoligist for all any of you know


We can be sure because we have the best LEO verification system of any police site on the inernet. Their are no "Star's" here, nor private investigator's allowed as Verified LEO's, unlike other police forums. We verified your police employment, along with every other Verified LEO on our site. When you're talking to the Verified LEO's on our site, you know you aren't talking to a female, midget cosmotologist.

Oh baloney all you did was callmy voicemail. I could have set up a fake message and that would have been that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Man

He (?) kept sending me hate PM's expecting an apology and I refused. In fact I got even more insulting. Finnaly he tried to intimidate me by pointing out that as adminsitrator he knew my true name and agency. ( I suppose he thinks he can beef me). Lastly he told me that I was arrogant and closed minded and sugested that he hoped I wasnt really a cop. That told me he wasnt a real cop cuz all real cops know that being arrogant and closed minded is an essential skill.

You have clearly been caught in a lie.

No I havent. My messages speak forthemselves you did demand an apology. What was the purposes of telling me you were insulted by my message.

I never sent you any hate PM's, nor did I demand an apology. I agree, you did get more insulting. I never tried to intimidate you by pointing out that I knew your name and agency. I simply replied to you by your name, and as a personal side note, said I hoped you didn't patrol the streets like it appears you might.

Again baloney, you start out by addressing me by name and in the post give the name of my agency. I never said you outright threatened me but the implication is obvious.


I did tell you that you were arrogant and close minded, but I never said I hoped you weren't a real cop....that makes no sense....we verified your police employment....I know you're a real cop. I also never stated that it is an essential skill of real cops to be arrogant and close minded.


Boy that joke went right over your head WWF boy. reread it. It ws me saying it, a joke, humor...maybe I should have hit somebody with a chair while typing it.

As for your issues with the other poster If you read my replies I never validated any of his posts and often asked for proof of his claims. I did contact the other poster and he did back up what PPD said, but then he could just be PPD using another name. Or I could be Uncle Martin from my favorite Martian.

Anyway thanks a bunch for reprinting all my stuff I am going to print it out and show my friends, they're all gonna get a big laugh out of this. Just FYI you do get that this is all just funny for me right?

Oh and I hope the posters complaining about drama dont get too upset over all this. Relax guys its just fun and even if its just fun for me remember no one is making you read this.

[PPDMO373]

Boy that joke went right over your head WWF boy. reread it. It ws me saying it, a joke, humor...maybe I should have hit somebody with a chair while typing it.

As for your issues with the other poster If you read my replies I never validated any of his posts and often asked for proof of his claims. I did contact the other poster and he did back up what PPD said, but then he could just be PPD using another name. Or I could be Uncle Martin from my favorite Martian.

Anyway thanks a bunch for reprinting all my stuff I am going to print it out and show my friends, they're all gonna get a big laugh out of this. Just FYI you do get that this is all just funny for me right?

Oh and I hope the posters complaining about drama dont get too upset over all this. Relax guys its just fun and even if its just fun for me remember no one is making you read this.

Garbage Man....that's the problem with them over there. They take this stuff way to serious. They act like I do....and I don't.....I really don't.

They only reason I posted in this thread is because I just like to irriate them with what is really going on over there when they lie about stuff because it really ticks them off. :D