IPD/Marion County

[chicubs]

Anyone here know how long the polygraph/background/psych/etc ... phase of the current hiring process will be? I just had my polygraph moved up by three weeks. I believe it was just a scheduling problem. Just curious on the time frames.

[ptcop531]

This will be in the future, maybe it is not even worked out yet. Once the merger of IPD and MCSD takes affect, will there be an age cap on applicants? There is for IPD, not for MCSD at this time. I imagine it has to do with the retirement plans.......Thanks.

[off_kimball]

Just a prediction...but you may not see them merger. They merger their SWAT last Monday and by Tuesday they were un-mergered. The same thing happened with their K9s'. You may very well see the Mayor come back on TV and say "I tried to save money by mergering, but it cost too much, the only thing to do is raise taxes." We'll see

[TrainingCpl]

The merger is going to happen regardless. Anyone thinking otherwise lives on a river in Egypt. Doesn't mean I like it, but then again, they never asked my opinion. :(

[halfacop]

So did anyone here make it further thru the process for IPD/Marion?

I see they have posted again for more recruits.

[towncop]

So did anyone here make it further thru the process for IPD/Marion?

I see they have posted again for more recruits.

I was kind of wondering that same thing myself. Haven't seen or heard a peep from the guys with earlier posts. I just got the dates in the mail for their August testing process. Anyone gonna go through that one with me? ;)

[C_Dennis]

:cool:
I'll be there in August with ya towncop. Good luck throughout this next process.

[nadster011]

I'll see ya there townie

[10-94/10-96]

I'll be there with you guys.

[C_Dennis]

Okay, seeya there, drag racing mental subject. :eek:

Anyone catch a glimpse of the new IMPD squad car on the news?
Pretty nice! :cool:

[Black 96 Z/28]

I was kind of wondering that same thing myself. Haven't seen or heard a peep from the guys with earlier posts. I just got the dates in the mail for their August testing process. Anyone gonna go through that one with me? ;)


Hmm guess I missed this thread, oops.
I sent in the little white card for the testing deates the day after I got it like two weeks ago. Still waiting to get the actual dates and packet. If it ever comes hahaha.

[sanger727]

I'll be testing in this process too. Good luck everyone. :)

[IrishMP1]

I started IPD's process back in February with the written exam. I made it all the way to the background phase, I had my polygraph on June 6, passed that and had my medical and psych on June 9. By all accounts I passed those as well. I talked to my background investigator two days ago, she said it's all board approvals now and I should possibly hear something by early to mid-September.

[nadster011]

well looks like i wont be testing with impd in august/06. got the study packet today and they scheduled my testing for the friday exam. sad thing is friday was my 3rd choice behind saturday and sunday(1). anyways try for next process. good news is this makes available one guaranteed spot in the april academy.......where you at townie?

[IrishMP1]

For those that are curious, IPD (IMPD) goes to the pension board on August 7, the background investigations are all due by the first week of September and they go to the merit board later on in the month. Notifications will be made the last week of September and the final PFT before the academy is between September 29 and 30.

[towncop]

Hey Nadster...I'll be taking the test on Saturday, the 12th. Got my first choice. We'll see what happens after that. Just put back in for Carmel, saw they're taking apps again. Got a few in and around the greater Indy area. Where are you at with anything??

[AvalancheZ71]

Well I received my last choice, Friday morning. I will just need to take another day off.

[towncop]

For those that are curious, IPD (IMPD) goes to the pension board on August 7, the background investigations are all due by the first week of September and they go to the merit board later on in the month. Notifications will be made the last week of September and the final PFT before the academy is between September 29 and 30.

Hey IrishMP1, I thought you had taken off and enlisted into the Army on active duty? What gives?

[IrishMP1]

Hey IrishMP1, I thought you had taken off and enlisted into the Army on active duty? What gives?

Met a girl and I had to choose, stick it out and play the waiting game afterall, or dump her and go active duty. She's that good of a woman that I was willing to give up active duty for her. Best decision I've made in a while, I couldn't be happier. Spending time with her is a lot better then another tour in the sand.

[towncop]

Anyone have a link to the new IMPD uniform/badge/patch/crown vic? Have searched and searched through Google and The Indy Star with no luck. Nothing on their website that I could find either.

[C_Dennis]

http://wishtv.images.worldnow.com/images/5097891_BG1.jpg

Click here for wishtv news link. (http://wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?s=5097891)

[AvalancheZ71]

Read through the steering committe notes on the IndyGov page regarding the law enforcement condolidation. There is a good .pdf of the badge and also the sergeants' badge as well.

[towncop]

OK, so who did I see at the IPD academy taking the test with me on Saturday morning? :confused: Anyone hear how many are getting hired for the April '07 class? I kept hearing some small talk between SEVERAL groups that they were going to take about 150 people for the first IMPD academy. I kept wondering if they had the state police confused. Anyone hear anything for sure? I didn't go to the tutoring sessions, so I don't know if any word was passed during those sessions or not.

Good luck to any and all of us in the process.

[AvalancheZ71]

I had to forgoe going to the test as I was scheduled for the polygraph by ISP on the same day as the test. I sure hope I made it to the next step.

[IrishMP1]

No talk on numbers for any of the upcoming academies. The mayor is restoring all of the police positions he cut, how and when remains to be seen. I don't know if IPD's academy could handle 150 recruits at once, the facility and the cadre don't seem to be large enough to handle it. With crime being on the rise here they may try and pack the halls, which is fine with me.

[Gunner_Indy]

I tested during this most recent round and talking to supervisors during the training seminar they indicated that there were 2200 applicants and they were taking 60 for the April 30th start date...

[towncop]

OK, so who am I going to see at the oral interview on 9-5-06 around 2:30 pm'ish? :cool: Also, anyone that went through the process for the 1st Metro Academy, care to chime in on what the new interview process is like? Back with IPD, I'm told it was a one-on-one interview that was tapped. From what I'm gathering with the new process, it seems a lot like the ISP interview. Any info??

[IrishMP1]

It's a board, four officers, 7 questions in 15 minutes. They have a timer so you can see how much time you have. It's fairly strait forward. If you've been through a board interview before, it's no different. Just be forwarned, aparently a, and I quote, "a select group" has been given the opportunity to be fastracked into the academy in November from the current group that just started the new process. If anybody wants to know more, PM me.

For those of us that were originally in the process for November, still waiting on a decision on our packets I guess. I've heard nothing since I took my poly, psych and med back in June. I passed them all, thats all I know. Supposedly there is a merit board meeting in September to decide who goes for sure.

[boeingleo]

Just wondering I passed the written test and was called for the Oral Interview. When I took the test in Aug I was told there were 134 positions and 75 of those are already filled by reserve officers. There were 1000 applicants for 59 jobs those odds are not very good to me and I have no law enforcement experience anyone have any thoughts on this?

[towncop]

Well, had my interview for IMPD this past Tuesday. Wasn't NEARLY as bad as the ISP interview process is. Questions were pretty straight forward as well. Anyone else interview this week? :confused: IrishMP1, got your PM on the "select group." I've got to call B.S. on that one too. My wife has a friend in city government who shares an office near the Mayor, was told that the info you relayed to me was TOTAL B.S. Especially in light of what happend the last time when the Mayor tried to cut several officers prior to the beginning of the academy last spring. Who know's what's truth and what is total B.S.?

Anyway, I'm fairly confident I did ok with the interview. We'll see in two to three weeks! :cool:

[halfacop]

Well, had my interview for IMPD this past Tuesday. Wasn't NEARLY as bad as the ISP interview process is. :

Interesting, I interviewed for IMPD during the first hiring phase. I thought the ISP interview was much more relaxed and layed back that IMPD was. I felt the questions were much easier as well. Good luck to all of ya!

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Halfacop

[towncop]

Interesting, I interviewed for IMPD during the first hiring phase. I thought the ISP interview was much more relaxed and layed back that IMPD was. I felt the questions were much easier as well. Good luck to all of ya!

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Halfacop

Well I hate to say this, but, I'm affraid ISP probably eased up their interview process in lieu of lowering their hiring standards. The IMPD interview was a cake-walk compaired to the other 3 times I interviewed with ISP from 2000 until 2004 when I got on.

I just hope that some of the idiots that my friend said he's interviewing (he's on the panel) doesn't drag ISP down. We'll see.

[halfacop]

Well I hate to say this, but, I'm affraid ISP probably eased up their interview process in lieu of lowering their hiring standards. The IMPD interview was a cake-walk compaired to the other 3 times I interviewed with ISP from 2000 until 2004 when I got on.

I just hope that some of the idiots that my friend said he's interviewing (he's on the panel) doesn't drag ISP down. We'll see.

Thats possable. I'm not saying it was easy, I am just saying that I thought it was a bit more relaxed. Keeping in mind that my interview with IMPD was my 1st ever LE interview. Could be that I just knew better what to expect when I interviewed with ISP.

I believe that lowering the hiring standard will not result in them hiring a bunch of noobheads. It does give them a better base to pick from. I have to believe the panel knows what they are doing and will only pick the best of the best. I was not able to apply until they lowered the standards but I believe I am an excellent candidate and would serve the ISP very well. Of course someothers would probably say different :D

[nadster011]

does this sound right? an officer here in fort wayne applied, was accepted, and started the isp lateral class this last week, made it two days and quit becasue he was told they were only allowed 20 minutes a week to speak with their families..with the exception of weekends off, they were told 20 minutes, because they(isp)are their family and are the only ones who count..so officer said f it, im out called up good ol rusty york, and got his job back with fwpd...

[jeeptavius]

Hey all...

New here but been wanting to post for a week now :)

I signed up on here last Wednesday...the day before my oral interview with IPD. Just now got activated so I can speak :)

Someone had asked about numbers of people currently in the process.

Roughly 2200 applied, after sending out the letters asking for a reply as to the test date you preferred they only got 1100 back.

So 1100 were signed up to take the written.

After the written there were only 570 still in the process.

Halfacop, send me a pm when you get a chance.

Good luck all who did the oral interview last week. Now we wait :)

[halfacop]

Halfacop, send me a pm when you get a chance.



PM on the way!

[straycat62]

The ISP board interview I feel was more stress inducing. The IMPD panel was pretty easy going. The IMPD one was the 5th I've ever been through. Good Luck to all.

[towncop]

Hey all...

New here but been wanting to post for a week now :)

I signed up on here last Wednesday...the day before my oral interview with IPD. Just now got activated so I can speak :)

Someone had asked about numbers of people currently in the process.

Roughly 2200 applied, after sending out the letters asking for a reply as to the test date you preferred they only got 1100 back.

So 1100 were signed up to take the written.

After the written there were only 570 still in the process.

Halfacop, send me a pm when you get a chance.

Good luck all who did the oral interview last week. Now we wait :)

Just kind of wondering where you came up with these numbers??

[jeeptavius]

Just kind of wondering where you came up with these numbers??

I asked the officers in charge of the tutoring while I was there for the initial numbers. That is where I got the 2200 and 1100.

I e-mailed Sgt. Kelly after I received my results and specifically asked him how many were still in the process.

That is where I got the 570.

[Gunner_Indy]

I was told the same numbers by numerous officers.

[towncop]

WOW. Only 570 of us moved on to interviews??? And they're hiring 60? I like those odds, seriously. They're not THAT bad. We'll see. One week since my interview, another to go 'til I get the results.

[jeeptavius]

Yes, I like our odds better now as well.

I assume part of them were no shows cuz I can't imagine almost half of the people failed the test :)

I have a new number to share.

About 10% of the 570 were no shows to the oral interview :)

So 57 less people to compete with.

Question for those in the process currently. Does anyone else have all their eggs in one basket?

Good luck all!!

[PageB]

Hi--new here, a little scared I'm going to send this into outer space or something, but here goes--

I felt prepared for the oral interview (IMPD)--I went over and over the questions they gave us in the tutoring session, and I was ready to knock it out of the freakin' park. Then, in the actual thing, only two questions were even remotely related to those practice ones. So, my confidence level is down quite a bit. I had about 1 minute left when I finished, so at least I know I tried!

OH! And even better--my interview was in a regular hotel room, and I tried to leave through the closet. I'm sure that was a very impressive indicator of my observational skills, too!

[Gunner_Indy]

OH! And even better--my interview was in a regular hotel room, and I tried to leave through the closet. I'm sure that was a very impressive indicator of my observational skills, too!


lol, well I wouldn't worry too much, they had to have been understanding that we are nervous :)

And I felt the same way about the interviews, I actually got there early, and figured I'd have a chance to relax, and I walked in to register and they wisked me away right into the interview. I didn't get a chance to get my berrings and was completely uncomfortable. After it was over, I kind of felt like, how could they get to know me from these questions, and make a thorough decision on whether I should go to the next round.

Anyways, I guess I'm nervous too, and not as confident as I was to start with :o

[jeeptavius]

Anbody else awfully tense this week? :)

[ptcop531]

Perhaps I could break the tension for a while........


Saw one of the new ISP patrol vehicles...

White, it was cool.... :)



although I do like the black.

[PageB]

Yeah, I was excited when I thought the uniforms were going to be black. I had decided that "Back in Black" could be my theme song. (For you young ones, that's AC/DC ;) But in all this mess, I guess I understand the white cars save money since that color is no extra charge from the factory.

Anybody else get hopeful when Mayor McCheese says he's increasing the budget for public safety? I keep hoping he'll say they're going to hire twice as many officers!

[towncop]

Yeah, I was excited when I thought the uniforms were going to be black. I had decided that "Back in Black" could be my theme song. (For you young ones, that's AC/DC ;) But in all this mess, I guess I understand the white cars save money since that color is no extra charge from the factory.

Anybody else get hopeful when Mayor McCheese says he's increasing the budget for public safety? I keep hoping he'll say they're going to hire twice as many officers!
:confused: You talking about ISP going to black uniforms?? That'll NEVER HAPPEN. However, I thought IMPD decided to go with the black uniforms??? Or did the steering committee change their minds - AGAIN? LOL

And yes, I'm pretty tense myself this week! I've been opening that mailbox mighty slow that past few days! LOL.

[PageB]

IMPD was thinking about black to avoid the whole issue of choosing between IPD blue and MCSO brown, but it came down, again, to cost. So, blue it will remain. As a compromise, they're changing from the IPD round hat to the MCSO campaign style hat--which costs almost double what the round hats do. Seems illogical, yes? I don't envy the guys on the steering committee.

I've heard the current recruit class has been issued two IPD uniforms and two IMPD uniforms. Anybody know why/if we (the ones who would start the academy in April) are now the "2nd" IMPD class? I thought it was going to be awesome to be able to say we were in the 1st class after the merger. I had my tattoo all planned out! :p

[jeeptavius]

IMPD was thinking about black to avoid the whole issue of choosing between IPD blue and MCSO brown, but it came down, again, to cost. So, blue it will remain. As a compromise, they're changing from the IPD round hat to the MCSO campaign style hat--which costs almost double what the round hats do. Seems illogical, yes? I don't envy the guys on the steering committee.

I've heard the current recruit class has been issued two IPD uniforms and two IMPD uniforms. Anybody know why/if we (the ones who would start the academy in April) are now the "2nd" IMPD class? I thought it was going to be awesome to be able to say we were in the 1st class after the merger. I had my tattoo all planned out! :p

I heard that the class that is in right now was changed to be the first class, and those of us in the process now, starting in April have been changed to be class #2. I was bummed out about this as well but I guess 2 is still better than whatever it was going to be before the merger :)

Anybody get results from the oral interview? I have had my wife checking the mailbox everyday!! :) Nothing yet :(

[Gunner_Indy]

I haven't gotten any results yet, and I get more anxious every day...

[jeeptavius]

I feel ya :) I did a ride along with a friend on the West Side last night which made me even more anxious :) It was pretty slow until another officer got behind a stolen vehicle. Which turned into a chase. The driver bailed out by I65 and ran....

Lots of fun until my buddy got out to chase him on foot and I am just sitting there with no radio in the car wondering what is going on :)

Helicopter flying around overhead, all that excitement and I just had to sit there :)

[towncop]

I heard that the class that is in right now was changed to be the first class, and those of us in the process now, starting in April have been changed to be class #2. I was bummed out about this as well but I guess 2 is still better than whatever it was going to be before the merger :)

Anybody get results from the oral interview? I have had my wife checking the mailbox everyday!! :) Nothing yet :(

The class that will is going to begin in Oct/Nov. of this year has been dubbed the 1st Metro class. As of this posting, I have a friend that is in this process, has passed everything and is STILL waiting for his "Yeah/Neah" letter on starting the academy. He was telling me that all his paperwork changed from the "104th" process to the "1st Metro Class" about a month ago.

As for the uniforms, I'm glad they're keeping the blue! Not a fan of black uni's AT ALL. That said, I also like the campain cover better than IPD's bus driver hat! :D However, I still think they could have done something better with the new patch design. I do love that badge though!

[PageB]

If I get on, I'll be proud to wear whatever uniform they give us, I'm sure. Even if I do look like Smokey the Bear. At what point of the applicant process do they mandate the mustache (copstashe)? Or, does that happen at the academy... :D

I've been wondering if you only get a letter if you're continuing in the process, or if they also send a "Thanks, but no thanks" letter if you didn't make it. So, I'm hoping to see a big manila envelope (because I'm sure there will be more instructions/forms to fill out, etc.) and not a little envelope that just a letter would fit into. I have a buddy in the process, too--neither of us have received anything yet.

[towncop]

Well, just opened my mail. Had a nice large envelope from IPD. Passed my interview and my agility test is scheduled for Oct. 6th. Who else guys? :D

[jeeptavius]

Just called the wife, mail hasn't come yet!!

I wonder what you get if you didn't pass....

So much for handling stress :) I have butterflies...and should be eating lunch right now but can't :)

Towncop, how did you think you did, before you got the results?

[Gunner_Indy]

yikes! Now I'm scared to check my mail when I get home from work :o

[PageB]

Glad I ate lunch before I read this. Now I'll be counting every second until the end of the day.

BTW-Congrats, towncop!

Anybody worried about the physical agility, or is everybody ex-military?

[jeeptavius]

Called her again, no mail yet!!

Any other day the mail comes around 12:30....of course it is late today :)

What does everybody else do right now for work?

[PageB]

Well, as for me, I have your basic soul-sucking desk job. Money's decent for a non-college grad, but that's about all it has going for it. I'm taking classes at night, too, so it works out okay to have a job where my brain can take extended vacations without negatively affecting my performance. :)

I'm not sure if I'm going to make IMPD this time, but if not, I know I'll try at least one more time. I'm tired of having a job that doesn't matter to anyone (even myself).

[jeeptavius]

Beware of the plain white envelope :(

Didn't make it this time guys, good luck to all that did. Maybe I will see some of youe next year.

[towncop]

First of all, Jeeptavius, I'm very sorry to hear your news. I know how much it sucks to get those "Unfortunately.....blah, blah, blah" letters from police departments. Trust me, I got two of them from ISP before finally making it, and was on pins and needles when I saw the packet/letter from my current employer. :rolleyes: With that said, keep your head up and try, try again if this is something you really want. Before I got my results, I really thought I did pretty good. I honestly think being a street cop for 8 years helped me TONS in that interview.

As far as being worried about the agility test, kinda, maybe, I don't know. It's the ENTRANCE standards to ILEA so it's not THAT bad. That said, I hate running! LOL. Plus, I'm carrying about 15-20 extra pounds. So, we'll see. The deal breaker for IMPD is going to be the agility test just before getting into the academy. Just think, making it over every hurdle in this process and not having good enough times to get into the academy! Hit the pavement gents!

For everyone else, good luck and hope to see you all at the academy.

[jeeptavius]

Thanks alot Towncop, that actually made me feel better.

I was worried when I noticed alot of people on this board had applied to IPD before....and that alot of people had their eggs in many baskets.

I am still pretty bummed but my wife has been talking about moving away from Indiana so this may give me the opportunity to apply with other cities we are interested in moving to.

This feeling is pretty similar to not getting hired at a normal job, but this is a little worse because it was going to be a major career change for me, and I feel like I had invested some time in the process since it is so long :)

On the bright side, I can use this year to get better prepared, I am considering trying to get on as a reserve somewhere as well.

Again, good luck to those who made it, and be safe.

Bill

[jeeptavius]

So day later I am thinking.....now what. I want this now more than ever but have to wait a year to start the process with IMPD again.

Has anybody else been in this situation? I am tired of IT work, and I want to be a Police Officer "NOW" :)

Do I try smaller departments? ISP?

What departments could get me in around the same time I was looking at with IMPD?

I was prepared to continue in my current job till April, now I am looking at another year at least and it is a big downer :)

[forensiccop]

Don't really know what your preferences are Jeeptavius, but Seymour police department I was told is starting a process in October. I don't know if it's to late though to still apply. Don't get discouraged it took me like 4 years to finally get somewhat where I wanna be just a little more waiting tough. Just hang in there and my advice is to try with some of the more bigger departments that have a proper process because some of these small departmenst just either hire from their own reserve pool or poliitics play a big part in who gets hired. Just my opinion tough.

[jeeptavius]

Thanks for the reponse forensicop.

Does anyone know what the IMPD reserve process is like? I would be content getting on the reserves until I can re-apply next year.

[towncop]

Don't really know what your preferences are Jeeptavius, but Seymour police department I was told is starting a process in October. I don't know if it's to late though to still apply.

It's too late for Seymour, their deadline was a few weeks ago and the testing process begins in two weeks. I'm in their process as well. Jeeptavius, I don't know if you're looking to stay near Indy or not, however, a few fairly large departments are hiring up and around the "region." Michigan City is taking apps as we speak and they do not require you to already be certified. About three other agencies in the same area are hiring as well, however, they want the academy. Hammond PD is one of those. Try South Bend as well as Ft. Wayne. They are taking apps as we speak and (you can get more info on them from Nadster) will be starting an academy around the same time frame as this IMPD was to start.

ISP wouldn't move you along any faster. They are already in the process for an academy starting the first of the year. Bloomington PD is starting a process on October 21st (I think). You just need to register and show up with your completed application and take the agility and written test. Keep plugging man, something will work out. I know your pain, I was in a crappy job after the Marine Corps before I got my first full time gig. In the end, it's all worth it. ;)

[C_Dennis]

Thanks for the reponse forensicop.

Does anyone know what the IMPD reserve process is like? I would be content getting on the reserves until I can re-apply next year.
A deputy told me a few months ago that MCSD was hiring more reserves..Reserve Deputies have to complete a 6 1/2 month training academy. Academy classes meet each Tuesday and Thursday from 6:00 PM - 10:00 PM and on Saturday from 8:00 am - 5:00 PM each week. I heard if you work enough hours for them and live in marion county, you even get a take-home car. Here is a link to their website for more info, jeeptavius.. :cool:

Reserve deputy page (http://www.indygov.org/eGov/County/MCSD/Careers/Reserve/deputy.htm)

[SW Indiana]

Beware of the plain white envelope :(

Didn't make it this time guys, good luck to all that did. Maybe I will see some of youe next year.

Sorry to hear that. I'm sure things will work out. I think Bloomington is hiring, you might check their website out.

So far, I've placed all of my eggs into ISP's basket and pray that I will get the conditional offer of employment and the invite to the November testing.

I will be extremely bummed out and will probably be depressed a hell of alot more than I am now. I am terribly burned out with my current desk job and cannot stand it any longer.

The bad thing with any LE hiring process is that it lasts so long. Because of this, I have not applied for other jobs within my current company or others.

Some have told me that my big problem is that I am currently "tunneled vision", so to speak, since I only have my name with one agency, or company for that matter. And they are correct. But, for some reason, I have only wanted to work LE with the ISP. I really can't explain why.

Best of luck to those of you trying for Metro PD.

[Chappy76]

At what point do they give you an conditional offer of employment? Is it after you pass the physical agility? I talked to someone else in the hiring process and they were under the impression that if you passed the physical agility test and your background is clean then you would be hired. Is this right or is there more to it? At what point will we know if we are selected?

Thanks in advance.

[SW Indiana]

At what point do they give you an conditional offer of employment? Is it after you pass the physical agility? I talked to someone else in the hiring process and they were under the impression that if you passed the physical agility test and your background is clean then you would be hired. Is this right or is there more to it? At what point will we know if we are selected?

Thanks in advance.

I was referring to the Indiana State Police, not sure if you are or not, but with ISP, the conditional offers of employment come after the background investigation. It is basically an invite to the physical agility testing the last of November. Recruits still have to pass ILEA entrance requirements, have a full medical checkup and meet with the psychologist.

Even passing all of the stuff in November isn't a guarantee to get invited to the academy.

As for IPD, I know nothing about their process.

[Chappy76]

SW thanks for the response but I was referring to IPD. I should have been more specific. Thanks anyway.

[IrishMP1]

IPD Process:
Written
Interview
Physical Agility - After physical agility is when conditional offers are given out.
Polygraph - Pass the poly, then it's medical and psych, on the day of your poly you will meet with your background investigator also.
Medical/Psych - Those will be on the same day in Indianapolis.

Between my physical agility and my polygraph was over a month and a half. I did my polygraph on a Tuesday, passed that and was then sent to my med/psych appointment on Friday of the same week. After those were done, I didn't hear anything again until this past Saturday, so roughly 3 and a half months between now and the last time I had any updates from IPD. IPD has a pre-academy PT test they administer 30 days prior to the academy. Assuming I pass this test for instance, I'll be in the academy in November.

I forgot to add that after the background phase starts there are several pension, merit and training boards a packet has to go through. If you are removed from the process for any reason after the physical agility test, it is a 2 year wait to reapply.

[Chappy76]

Thanks IrishMP1.

That was what I was looking for. Good luck with your process.

[jeeptavius]

So there were like 3 other people here on Friday awaiting the results from the Oral Interview :(

Did the rest of you make it and have no time for this place anymore? :)

[towncop]

So I check the mail today and see a regular white envelope from Indy Metro. I'm thinking, hmmmmm, I already got my letter/packet to continue, and Jeeptavius said to be aware of the white envelope.

I open it and all I see is "we apologize for the error in the previous notification........" :eek: I had to read it like 5 times before I saw that they had typed "bring completed application to your scheduled INTERVIEW." They should have said scheduled "PT Test." :rolleyes: Geeze, talk about giving a guy a heart attack!

Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing about the others that were awaiting word. Do tell guys.

[CruiserClass]

IPD Process:
Written
Interview
Physical Agility - After physical agility is when conditional offers are given out.
Polygraph - Pass the poly, then it's medical and psych, on the day of your poly you will meet with your background investigator also.
Medical/Psych - Those will be on the same day in Indianapolis.

Between my physical agility and my polygraph was over a month and a half. I did my polygraph on a Tuesday, passed that and was then sent to my med/psych appointment on Friday of the same week. After those were done, I didn't hear anything again until this past Saturday, so roughly 3 and a half months between now and the last time I had any updates from IPD. IPD has a pre-academy PT test they administer 30 days prior to the academy. Assuming I pass this test for instance, I'll be in the academy in November.

I forgot to add that after the background phase starts there are several pension, merit and training boards a packet has to go through. If you are removed from the process for any reason after the physical agility test, it is a 2 year wait to reapply.

I got my packet inviting me to the PT test as well. Is it possible to pass this PT test and still not be selected for some reason, or is this it? The booklet says it is not a job offer but after the test it will help you in your decision about putting your notice in with your current employer.

So are we automatically in if we pass this last PT test or not? Will they tell us as soon as we pass?

I'm pretty excited about getting to this point. See you at the PT test!

[IrishMP1]

Cruiser,

I've heard a couple different stories, I'm checking to see whether this is the "final" step in the process or if they're just checking fitness levels to make sure everyone can pass the test during the first week of the academy. It will be nice to get the green light for the academy, one way to look at it, win or lose, making it this far is an accomplishment in it's own right.

[PageB]

Hey, guys--made it. Now starts a new round of worrying! I've heard two stories on the Physical Agility Test (PAT). First, the official line quoted on all the materials--you don't pass, you're done. But, I've also heard if there are enough people who are otherwise attractive as potential hires, and only struggle with one or two areas on the PAT, there may be an opportunity for some "remedial" training for a month or so and then a second try.

Personally, I'm good with everything but the push-ups. I can't go down as far as they want us to. So...I'm not too confident, not knowing if they'll choose to have the "PAT for Dummies" class or not.

[jeeptavius]

Congrats PageB and good luck!! :p

Looks like everybody on here made it except me :(

I suck :)

[PageB]

I'm so sorry that you didn't make it, Jeeptavius. :( I don't know at what point of the process you have to wait a year (or two) to try again, but I hope that you do try--if not with IMPD, then somewhere! I am pretty sure I can't cut the mustard physically (even though I'm trying to think positive!), so I may not go any further after Sat. Oct. 7th. I'm 32, so there's a little added pressure to get this thing done if I'm going to do it. :eek:

If the Oral Interview was your downfall, you might Google "Captain Bob". His name sounds dumb, but this guy sells a package that helps people get through Fire Dept. orals. Even if you don't buy the package, you can get a lot of good tips on structured interviews from the site itself. I didn't buy it, but I definitely listened to/read all the free stuff I could get from him.

[Gunner_Indy]

well, I made it as well to the fitness test...and yes I did curse when I got that second letter :o

I'm really anxious about doing all the tests on the same day, especially the 1.5 mile run. Running and I have never gotten along, but I know I'm well under the entry time, it's just being able to do it after everything else during the day :eek:

[jeeptavius]

Thanks PageB,

I think I would be ok for the PT test, I have about 10lbs to lose and I am 5'9" 180. So not terribly overweight but I could be more active. The Xbox 360 and World of Warcraft don't give me a very good workout :)

The only part I was worried about was the part that took me out :) I wish they gave you some sort of feedback when you don't pass it. I think you only have to wait 2 years if you get cut during the background phase. Congrats Gunner.

I re-applied this morning actually, and it seems apps need to be in by Dec. Academy starting October 07....so that cheered me up a little. I was thinking I would have to wait till April 08.

Talking on here has helped alot and I thank all of you. Finding out that alot of people...even people I know, didn't make it the first time makes me feel better. One guy I know applied for IPD 12 years ago, got cut, and went to Marion County and has had a great career there.

So long story short, and as many of you have said....if I want it bad enough, keep trying and it will happen.

It just needs to happen before I turn 36 :)

Congrats Gunner_Indy and good luck pageB.

[PageB]

Well, I'm doing the mile and a half in a BLISTERING 16.45 pace. I compare my running to that famous scene in "Chariots of Fire"--except that's my ACTUAL speed, not fancy camera work. :D

I'm hoping adrenaline is running high that day and will help me do all this stuff!

[jeeptavius]

Just take bigger steps :)

[Chappy76]

Well, I'm doing the mile and a half in a BLISTERING 16.45 pace. I compare my running to that famous scene in "Chariots of Fire"--except that's my ACTUAL speed, not fancy camera work. :D

I'm hoping adrenaline is running high that day and will help me do all this stuff!


PageB, that's about the same time I'm running : ) Are you going Friday at 8am? If so we can push each other to make it.

[styguy531]

Man, the time allowed for the 1.5 mile run is really high compared to Illinois. The state standard POWER test, as it is called, for a male 20-25 years old (I think the ages are right) is 13:48. It's a good thing that ISP's isn't like that. I can pass if I get a chance to take it, it just sucks to not be able to take your time. Good luck to you guys and gals that are in the process for Indy! :D

[towncop]

Man, the time allowed for the 1.5 mile run is really high compared to Illinois. The state standard POWER test, as it is called, for a male 20-25 years old (I think the ages are right) is 13:48. It's a good thing that ISP's isn't like that. I can pass if I get a chance to take it, it just sucks to not be able to take your time. Good luck to you guys and gals that are in the process for Indy! :D

You know that ISP's entrance PT standard is the same as Indy right? In fact, Indy's exit standard is lower then ISP. ISP is only required to run 1.5 in 16:28 to graduate, Indy's is 14:54.

[SW Indiana]

I could cartwheel a mile and a half in 19 minutes :D

[PageB]

I'm scheduled to go Saturday. I wonder what happens if it rains? Suck it up, probably, huh?

I'm not worried about the initial time to beat (18+ minutes)--but I don't want to be the last one hobbling over the finish line, either. If I can somehow pull 21 correct form push-ups out of my #$% and jump the 13.5 inches, I'm cool--the other stuff won't be too challenging.

Good luck to everyone!

[Gunner_Indy]

what constitutes a "correct form" push-up?

[PageB]

I can do push-ups where my forearm is at a 90 degree angle to my upper arm-which is what is usually referred to as proper form. However, IMPD says that someone will be in front of you with a fist on the floor, and when you come down in the push-up your sternum should hit the person's fist-it's a much larger range of motion.

No can do. :(

[boeingleo]

I applied for Brownsburg and we did the pushups last week and it was like that a person had their fist underneath your sternum. Mush more difficult and the situps were just a ruler above what you can reach. Also it rained the night before but it was dry in the morning, but they still had us run inside. Makes things much more difficult

[Chappy76]

boeingleo,

I was at Brownsburg too. The push ups were fine but I noticed a few people fail the sit-ups. At least one who looked to be pretty fit. The sit-ups can be tricky, I think. I didn't notice anyone fail the pushups but I might have missed something. The thing I worry about for IPD is the trigger pull because there's really no way I can practice that. I think I'll be okay but you never know. Also, I went through the Brownsburg process a few years ago and we ran inside then as well. The weather was fine then. Personally I prefer to run inside. I may struggle with IPD because it is outside. We'll see.

[nadster011]

chappy..dont sweat the trigger pull..i did the trigger pull with carmel..if its the same as carmel they had a circle outlined on a chalkboard, and you had to keep the barrel within the circle while performing the trigger pull..we used a revolver which was no sweat at all...just remeber to SQUEEZE and not pull the trigger and you'll do fine..situps, good way to practice is take a small drinking glass, and do your pushups at home with that...small glass is pretty close to the size of a human fist..advice on the situps, dont do ab machines at the gym...practice at home with your feet under a couch, loveseat, etcc..most people will notice with the situps, someone holding your feet, causes you to pull with your toes and in the end its your upper quads that will hurt and be more fatigued rather than your abs...on the day of testing pick the guy with the biggest hands.keep ya from dropping down as much. :D

[jeeptavius]

Chappy,

Go to Pop Guns on the east side. You can rent a Glock 22 and shoot it on the range with nothing more than your license.

Pretty inexpensive too.

Just don't shoot yourself in the foot, I imagine an incident like that would disqualify you from the process :)

Good luck!!

[Chappy76]

nadster011 & jeeptavius

That's some great advice, thanks!

Does anyone know if have an mp3 player for the run at IPD? I noticed some people using them for Brownsburg. I think that would help me stay focused.

[jeeptavius]

So was the PT test yesterday? If so how did you guys do?

[daniel44321]

I have not even heard anything from my oral yet. This can not be a good thing!!

[towncop]

So was the PT test yesterday? If so how did you guys do?

Negative. The PT test is Friday, October 6th, Saturday October 7th.

[jeeptavius]

Well good luck guys!! Keep us updated :)

[PageB]

So, what do you guys think--if a person can't pass these physical tests, are they not able to be a good cop? I guess my personal opinion is that if these are what's necessary to be a good police officer, they should be taken by all sworn officers (not just recruits) on a yearly basis.

I think I would like some kind of an obstacle course better. It seems like it would be a more accurate test of the abilities needed for the job. I may end up having to drag a body for some kind of distance if I make it onto the dept., but I doubt some crook is going to tell me to drop and give him 20 (or 21!).

If more thought were put into it, I think there could be a better measure for the ability to perform the job.

[jeeptavius]

There was a guy at the Written test that had been in the process before.

I think he was in the class that had made it all the way, turned in their notices, and then Bart sent them a letter saying there were no funds, and their services would not be needed. "We urge you to re-apply"

He said that they used to have you start in a car, run into the academy and then into the Gym. You had to run and jump over various obstacles, up and down sets of stairs, and back to the car, drag a heavy bag or something a certain distance. All in like 1 min 30 secs.

To me that would be a better test as well.

Not sure why they changed it.

[towncop]

These standards were put into place in 2000 by the Law Enforcement Training Board. The days of an obstacle course are long gone in Indiana. I see why some of you would like an "O" course better, but what good would it do for them to test you like that, when the first day of the academy you have to pass that standards that the State set for all LE officers to enter training AND to graduate?

When I started in '98, I had to do an "O" course and was fine with that. However, I didn't go to the academy until my year was almost up. My ILEA class was the "flagship" class for the standards. We weren't required to pass them to enter or to graduate, they just wanted to see where recruits stood. And, like I said, they became mandated in Jan '00.

PageB, in reference to "dropping and giving a suspect 20," no, you may not have to do that for him, but you may have to pull your own body weight up into an attic crawl space that doesn't have a ladder. I can honestly say that in 8 years as a cop, I've had to do this A LOT. The push-up is a great judge of upper body strength.

I don't agree with the 1.5 mile run at all. I know that measures cardio endurance and such. But I've NEVER hadto run after someone more than a few blocks. But hey, The LE training board set the standards for ALL ACADEMIES in the state to follow. They didn't ask for my opinion.

In all honesty, for those of you that don't like Indiana's entrance or graduation standards, look at other states that utilize the Cooper Fitness standards. You'll find that the run times here in Indiana are HIGH. As for the guy that told you about the "O" course for IPD Jeeptavius, he's right, but as mentioned, IPD hasn't used that for a few years now.

The state police just stopped using their "O" course 2 classes ago. They found that they were getting recruits that showed up on day one and were failing entrance standards and forced to leave. That's why agencies have changed.

Hope this sheds some light on this whole PT test for all of ya. By the way, look at IPD's EXIT standards. They're even tougher then the state standard.

[PageB]

Thanx for the insight, towncop. As to the exit standards, I think those will actually be pretty easy, because we'll be doing the stuff everyday (or almost everyday) in the Academy.

To be honest, I think for right now the PAT is just a convenient place to focus my anxiety over the whole process. I try to stay in reasonably good shape, but my strengths are more in the mental arena. I've never failed anything that I tried really hard to do before--and I'd hate to do it now over a few stupid push-ups when I know I'd make a great police officer.

Okay! I'll stop whining. (out loud, anyway :o )

[forensiccop]

I've heard from several different people that you basically need to have a fitness regimen of your own aside from the what your doing in the academy because while you do daily workouts you hardly do any running. But, I personally think that the state of Indiana's physical fitness standards are fairly laxed compared to others I've looked into. I mean most people could walk 1 1/2 miles in 18 min 58 sec. That's just my opinion and what I've heard from other officers.

[PageB]

So, who's testing on what days? I'm Saturday at 1. Anybody know if they test one at a time (seems like that would take forever) or in groups?

[CruiserClass]

So, who's testing on what days? I'm Saturday at 1. Anybody know if they test one at a time (seems like that would take forever) or in groups?

You test in groups, except for the 1.5 mile run which everyone does at the same time. They say to allow three hours for everything, and that was about right when I did it.

[PageB]

Good luck to any who are testing today--let us know how it goes! :)

[Chappy76]

I just got back from the PAT. I passed. 2 people did not show up out of my group and there were a few that failed so I would guess that we're down to 145-144 left. I have a question though. Someone made mention that they had like 140 spots but were hiring 80 reserves leaving 60 spots for everyone else. Did the reserves have to test? If so are they included in the 150 testing? If so it increases our odds a lot! Also it would seem to me that they would loose quite a few on the background checks. Will they do that before it goes to the Merit Board to decide who gets a conditional offer?

Thanks in advance and Good luck to everyone else!

[PageB]

What did the ones who failed fail on? :confused: :(

Not that I'm nervous... :eek:

[Chappy76]

most of the failures that I saw were the vertical jump and the run.

[jeeptavius]

Congrats Chappy, good luck PageB!!

[CruiserClass]

I just got back from the PAT. I passed. 2 people did not show up out of my group and there were a few that failed so I would guess that we're down to 145-144 left. I have a question though. Someone made mention that they had like 140 spots but were hiring 80 reserves leaving 60 spots for everyone else. Did the reserves have to test? If so are they included in the 150 testing? If so it increases our odds a lot! Also it would seem to me that they would loose quite a few on the background checks. Will they do that before it goes to the Merit Board to decide who gets a conditional offer?

Thanks in advance and Good luck to everyone else!

Conditional letter first, then background check, doctor's physical, pysch, etc.

[PageB]

Well, I didn't do so hot, so I may have to wait and try for next November's academy.

The worst news was that they are only taking 30 out of this testing process--they'll have another one start in a month or so, and will be taking 30 from that one as well. 150 were invited to the PAT. So, if you passed, I guess you have around a 20% chance.

We'll know in a few weeks!

[Chappy76]

Well, I didn't do so hot, so I may have to wait and try for next November's academy.

The worst news was that they are only taking 30 out of this testing process--they'll have another one start in a month or so, and will be taking 30 from that one as well. 150 were invited to the PAT. So, if you passed, I guess you have around a 20% chance.

We'll know in a few weeks!

Page B,

Sorry to hear that. Did you pass everything but just didn't do as well as hoped? How did you hear about 30 spots? Friday they were still talking 60.

[straycat62]

When I did the PAT on Sat. they were talking about taking 60 recruits out of the 160 applicants left. That is what I understand is going on. They are taking the apps to the merit board Tues or Thurs. I can't remember.

[PageB]

I passed the exit standards (that second, harder set) for the 300 meter run and the sit-ups, and I did the 1.5 mile in 15:58. My vertical jump was just barely over what it needed to be, but I could only do 1/2 the push-ups. So, I passed all but one thing.

I have no idea what that means as far as continuing on or starting over! Guess I'll find out in a few weeks--but I have a pretty good idea. :(

As far as the 30 vs. 60 thing, it was the first I'd heard of it, but it was Sgt. Kelly who said it. I would LOVE it if I heard wrong, but I'm pretty sure I didn't. He said there would be a second round of testing for this same process, but that we would be ineligible for it (i.e., we would have to wait 'til the November 07 process to try again).

[jeeptavius]

Maybe he meant 30 from the people that tested on the same day as you Page B?

I dunno, just guessing.

Page B, I am curious, when you didn't complete the pushups did they say you were out? Or is there still a chance you are still in it?

Good luck guys, wish I was in it with you all still but it won't be long till the end of December :) Will give me some time to work on my PT :)

[RubeDawg]

I thought they said that they were taking like 1/4 of the 160 people who went to the PAT. These next few weeks I'm gonna be anxious waiting for the letter!

[PageB]

I guess it's possible that I still have a chance if my other test scores were high enough--they add it all together. I don't see how I could have missed more than 1 or 2 (if that) on the written, and who knows how they scored the oral, so...

I'm watching the mail, too.

[Gunner_Indy]

When I tested for the PAT on Friday, Sgt. Kelly said they would take 50% of the 150 testing that weekend, so I'm not quite sure why we were told different things???

But as for not passing certain standards, it is actually possible, albiet slim, to still make it in. They don't tell you that the Merit Board takes a look at everything, background, interview, education, experience, etc. and makes a decision. It could be, that you struggled on one thing in the PAT, but everything else is perfect, they might hire you, but you would have to work your ***** off in the academy to meet the state standards.

So there still is hope, but how much? I have no idea, especially if they are not taking 50%, but only 25% :o

[PageB]

I've always relied much more on my mental powers than physical ones--but you're right. If there's any chance I can continue, I'm going to have to make sure my ***** can cash the check my test scores have written.

Does that make sense? Probably not! Anyway, good luck. :)

[Chappy76]

It sounds like we all heard something a little different. I think the merit board meeting is today. So we should hear something soon. To me it would sound more like taking 50% out of 150 if they are going to hire 60. They will loose some on the background checks to bring it down to 60. To have another test from this process doesn't add up. The process is supposed to be structured to make it fair for everyone. I would also assume that anyone included in the 150 all scored high on the written and oral board. Good luck to everyone.

[RubeDawg]

Should be interesting, no matter how many they take. Does anyone know if they PT every day during the academy? I wonder if running is the only thing they do...maybe they do swimming and other stuff too.

[nadster011]

Should be interesting, no matter how many they take. Does anyone know if they PT every day during the academy? I wonder if running is the only thing they do...maybe they do swimming and other stuff too.


I THINK YOUR IN A FOR A ROUGH RIDE :cool:

[RubeDawg]

Not really sure what thats supposed to mean. Seeing as how I am already a police officer and went through an academy that PT's EVERY day, I don't think I'll have a problem. I was wondering if anyone had any insight on how they do it at Metro.

[nadster011]

my apologies...i was under the assumption that you were inquiring into the isp class...i assumed most people have heard the same horror stories when it comes to isp and their pt..wrong thread..apologies.

[CruiserClass]

I passed the interim physical today. Now it is just wait and see for the final letter. They were very clear in their statements that no final decision as to how many cadets would be selected had been made. While 60 people had merit board approval, there is no guarantee that anyone has a job. The higher-ups still have to decide budget, number of slots, etc. We are supposed to know 100% by the end of the month.

Good luck to everyone, hope to see you in a month.

[PageB]

OK-Who else got a letter?

[jeeptavius]

Congrats PageB :) You are almost there.....I have to do ride-alongs and watch re-runs of cops every night for now ;)

[PageB]

Thanx, Jeeptavius. I hope we get to serve together in the near future!

[straycat62]

Got conditional letter today. Woo Hoo!

[jeeptavius]

Hey guys, since I am out of it I don't know what stage you are in right now. Have you guys done the background/polygraph yet?

I hope so Page B, I think I told you all I re-applied about a week after I got the rejection letter :)

I have been doing ride alongs pretty much every other weekend with a friend in IPD. It is helping me pass the time. :)

Like being in the reserves, without the pay or responsibility :)
Oh yeah, they don't get paid anyway :)

It has been good to get a feel for what the job is about.

Doing 1 ride along that is all excitement could make you think that is how it is all the time. There is alot of down time where nothing is going on, especially when it is raining or cold out. :) So when it is slow we look for things to pull people over and sorta try to make stuff happen. Not sure if that is the best way to put it, but you know what I mean. Look for actual infractions, headlight out, cracked windshield, temp tag in the window, etc.

Watching cops re-runs helps too, cheasy I know but I think you can learn alot from watching that show :) I have been wondering though, what makes a department have partners as opposed to 1 officer in a car? It seems like larger cities do this more, maybe crime ratings?

The other thing that I have been wondering about, am I the only one that didn't make it? :) Or the only one that continues to post :)

What do you guys make of the merger? It seems like IPD people think it is a bad idea, and Marion County people can't wait for it to happen. What I have gathered is that Marion County has less officer per zone so they are having to cover more area with less people. IPD feels like they are going to have to move their people to these zones, giving them less in their current zones.

[straycat62]

All the officers I have spoken with from IPD don't think it is a good idea. They are really hoping it just doesn't go through.
What would happen to us in the process if the merger doesn't go through? Keep going, start over, .........?

[PageB]

I haven't spoken w/ any county guys, but I've yet to find an IPD officer who thinks it's going to be anything other than a cluster$%*!. It seems like it's going to make everything even more political than it already is--guess I'd better start voting democrat if I get on! I thought that your voting info was personal/confidential, but I've heard MCSO looks at it. I tend to support individuals, not a certain party, but it would bug me to have to say I was one party or the other if I wanted to advance in the job (in a few years, it could be the same thing but w/republicans). What does any of that stuff have to do with keeping the city safe and orderly? :confused:

[jeeptavius]

Yeah, that is the vibe I get also, seems like one side is against it, the other is for it, although I haven't spoken directly to any county people about it.

Last ride along I was on, we were out in the parking lot after we ate and a county guy was leaving the same place. He said something about the zone he was working and how they were shorthanded. Then he said "I can't wait till Jan 1!!" then he drove off. The ipd guys I was with sorta grumbled :) I don't think it is anything against the officers themselves, cuz technically we are all on the same team. I just think ipd-ers feel like things are fine how they are, and the merger is just political. Good thing about being in the process, we don't have any political baggage yet :)

Have any of you been to the site whose name shall not be spoken? :)

[PageB]

Um...don't speak its name, but can you give me a hint? (sorry-not that perceptive today, I guess!) :rolleyes:

[jeeptavius]

PM sent page b, I would rather not post the name cuz while I have heard it is a popular site among officers, it is pretty anti-current Indy government. So much so that there are attempts to find out who runs it and shut it down.

Keep an open mind while you read it, it is pretty one sided but an interesting read nonetheless :)

[nadster011]

hit me with that link jeeptavius

[straycat62]

Dito Please.

[towncop]

Guys (and gals) if you've been paying attention to the Indy Star for the past year or so, you can tell that IPD DOES NOT want this merger. And as for them, "just hoping it doesn't go through..." well, they can wish in one hand and POOP in the other and see which one fills up faster. The merger is there, and it is going to happen. Personally, I didn't want to see it. I wanted to work for IPD not Marion County, but hey, that's just me.

Look at it this way. This merger is going to be a new-born baby with all kinds of kinks to work out. IF it doesn't fix the money problems and people have to be laid off, guess what?? Ole' Bart will start where he was going to start before - with public safety. And those that are part of the first and second Indy Metro academy classes will be some of the first to get pink slips. Just something to think about. ;) And by the way, could I get that link that's not talked about? LOL.

[straycat62]

Sorry, I live up north and don't have access to the Indy Star. I guess I wonder if I should subscibe to it. I really don't know much about the merger other than what I've been told by IPD officers.

[PageB]

I've never been a very political person, so this is all weird to me. I just try to keep my nose to the grindstone and let my work speak for itself--I never get into the office gossip, etc. wherever I work.

I have a feeling I'm in for a major shock if I get on with IMPD! The funny thing is, I don't get along with many other females because this is the only crap they ever want to talk about. But from what I'm hearing/seeing, I'll be getting the same things if I work w/cops.

I guess when keeping your job depends on knowing which way the political wind is blowing, you HAVE to talk about this stuff. Keep the info flowing, guys!

[jeeptavius]

Yeah Page B,

I have always been one to form my own opinion. I hate being classified as Democrat or a Rebublican, cuz really I have things I like/dislike about both sides. This is part of the reason I think I would be a good cop :)

It is interesting to read all of the stuff said on that site though.

[towncop]

For those of you that aren't cops already, and not to sound rude, but you are in for a RUDE awakening once you put that badge on in regards to politics and gossip!!

[PageB]

So, TownCop, in your opinion, if you mind your own business will you never get promoted?

Did everybody check out the "BLING" thread? :D

(Sorry-it's the "uniform flair" thread!)

[Tennsix]

So, TownCop, in your opinion, if you mind your own business will you never get promoted?

It has been my experience that the pace in which one climbs the proverbial ladder is a measure of one’s favor. As unjust as it sounds, there is a lot of truth to the old saying, “Good guys finish last.” Frequently, it takes more than being a good cop to get promoted.

[Chappy76]

I think Page B mentioned a 2nd round of testing for the process going on now. I just looked at IPD's website and they now have a Group B listed on the process schedule. Applications close on Oct 31 and they have the same accademy start date of April 30 2007. Anyone know how this will effect the conditional offers that have been made?

[PageB]

I don't know what that will do to our offers...

and I usually love it SO MUCH when I'm right! :(

[Chappy76]

I don't know what that will do to our offers...

and I usually love it SO MUCH when I'm right! :(

Yeah, we all thought you were the crazy one hearing things but I guess I owe you an apology. Please accept it.

I am curious how the offers work. If we pass all the conditions are we in? Or are we now still in the process and they will select the top 60 or the 60 that they want? Any ideas?

[PageB]

I don't know where I heard this, but I have heard that the "conditional offer" of employment has to be there for them to be allowed to get more in-depth with our testing (i.e., poly, psych, etc.). Maybe that's just a cynical POV, though.

[towncop]

OK, here's some scoop from Sgt. Kelly. This process AND the 3rd IMPD academy will have two processes for each class. Applications for the 2nd Recruit Class for the second group will be taken until 10-31. After that, they will go through all the same stuff we have been, basically ending up in April for the interim PT test with us. Don't know why they're doing it like this, but they are.

I didn't ask him, however, it clearly states that you may compete in one process every 6 months. So the way I take that is if you didn't make it past your written or oral with group A, you won't be able to process with group B either.

Good luck to all.

[straycat62]

I don't get it.

[straycat62]

I guess what I'm saying is we have competed against the 160 plus that went to the merit board. We recieve an offer. But now we are going to compete against a whole other process? Is that right?

[towncop]

That's the way I take it, unless they're going to send more than 60 into this class.

[IrishMP1]

This is a story covering some FOP concerns about the current and future IMPD classes, specifically how certain political agendas were introduced into the process....sound familiar towncop.

http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5585318

[PageB]

As far as who we are competing with, they said at our PAT that they were taking 30 from A (us) and 30 from B (the second group).

I really don't know what to believe. After reading the site above, I almost wonder if they keep it deliberately confusing so that we'll never know what # we are and if we are "bumped" for some reason. I've seen posts from other guys in other cities that said they were told after different tests that they were #4 out of _____ or whatever. ????

[Chappy76]

As far as who we are competing with, they said at our PAT that they were taking 30 from A (us) and 30 from B (the second group).

I really don't know what to believe. After reading the site above, I almost wonder if they keep it deliberately confusing so that we'll never know what # we are and if we are "bumped" for some reason. I've seen posts from other guys in other cities that said they were told after different tests that they were #4 out of _____ or whatever. ????


I guess the real question is how many conditional offers did they make? Did they make 60 for 30 spots?

[towncop]

Well, being a police officer now and very active with my local FOP, I contacted an officer (i.e. Pres, vice pres, sec. - no, I won't say which one I spoke to) of the Indy FOP and voiced some concerns about leaving my job and coming to the "new" IMPD. After talking with him for about 30 minutes, you guys now have one less person to compete against in this process. Good luck to you all - by my own choice, I'm OUT. ;)

[PageB]

Sorry to see you go, but do you have any elaboration to add to that? You can't fear repercussions, now!

[Chappy76]

Well, being a police officer now and very active with my local FOP, I contacted an officer (i.e. Pres, vice pres, sec. - no, I won't say which one I spoke to) of the Indy FOP and voiced some concerns about leaving my job and coming to the "new" IMPD. After talking with him for about 30 minutes, you guys now have one less person to compete against in this process. Good luck to you all - by my own choice, I'm OUT. ;)

Towncop can you tell us anymore? Anything that we should know about? I've got a stable job now but not an officer. I would appreciate anything you could give us. I wish you luck with other processes.

[towncop]

I understand that there can be no repercussions for me now for discussing things that were talked about, however, what was discussed with this person, will not be passed on. All I will say is that there was some shoveling around of applications to get certain people into the process. Those of you with offers or whatever, think long and hard about what you are doing with this NEW AGENCY. AND THAT IS WHAT INDIANAPOLIS METRO POLICE DEPARTMENT will be, a new agency. If dollars come up short, YOU WILL BE THE FIRST ONE'S LAID OFF.

Personally, being a police officer for 8 years, and knowing what's going on behind closed doors up there, if I got on I'm not one to keep my mouth shut and would likely be in hot water often. Good luck guys, and please, know what you want. Just look at how things for this process has changed or been twisted over the last couple of months. IMPD isn't the only agency in the state! That's all I'm saying. ;)

[nadster011]

townie your comin to the fort aint ya :D

[towncop]

Nadster, I think you know me too well! LOL ;) :D

[PageB]

Well, this came to me secondhand, so I'm not sure of the details, but I was told that the FOP is going to (considering?) suing IMPD because some candidates were pushed through this 1st IMPD class without meeting/going through all the qualifications that the others had, simply to bring the gender/racial balance up to what it is "supposed" to be.

IMO, if this is true, they were trying to cover their @$$e$ because of Bart's hiring, firing, and rehiring of a very white, male class, and the resultant media uproar. Without knowing more of the details, it's hard to know how "fair" it was and how relaxed the standards were, if any.

[CruiserClass]

I've been appointed to the 1st Sworn Recruit Class with IMPD, with training to commence on Nov. 13, 2006 at 0800.

:D Yay me! Watch your mailbox everyone else, and this time don't be afraid of small envelopes. :D

[PageB]

Congrats!!!

[Chappy76]

I've been appointed to the 1st Sworn Recruit Class with IMPD, with training to commence on Nov. 13, 2006 at 0800.

:D Yay me! Watch your mailbox everyone else, and this time don't be afraid of small envelopes. :D

Way to go!

[jeeptavius]

I've been appointed to the 1st Sworn Recruit Class with IMPD, with training to commence on Nov. 13, 2006 at 0800.

:D Yay me! Watch your mailbox everyone else, and this time don't be afraid of small envelopes. :D

Congrats cruiser and good luck :)

[straycat62]

Congats and hopefully we all look forward to being part of the 2nd sworn class.